Arizona Lottery computerized drawing machine generated identical winning numbers

Comment #58

DELotteryPlyr — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:53:47 GMT

And AGAIN!!!

I could really as I stopped playing repeats to go after trips

358 came out 10/13 midday

538 hits TODAY midday

Comment #57

grwurston — Thu, 12 Oct 2017 01:03:08 GMT

Well they did it again.

10/10 mid 072

10/11 eve 027

Here's something interesting. According to lotsoftpro, the average skip for a three digit repeat in Maryland is,

Midday 92 skips

Evening 218 skips

Mid Eve combined 120 skips

So for the mid that amounts to 4, three digit repeats a year, for the eve it's 1.67 a year, and combined it's 3 a year. That's a total of 8 a year.

Maryland had 5 back to back draw, 3 digit repeats in just 2 months. Definitely NOT within the so calle... [ More ]

Comment #56

DELotteryPlyr — Thu, 12 Oct 2017 00:33:16 GMT

So thanks to this post, yesterday I started playing the last 6 numbers that have come out - and tonight hit 027 BOXED which came out yesterday midday 072!!! So the list grows for MD

Comment #55

Ron5995 — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:23:25 GMT

000 came up, that's likely why. Not uncommon for such delays after popular, highly wagered numbers are drawn.

If discussion regarding strategy, etc in this thread is any indication, most regular numbers players will continue to play, regardless. It's no wonder lotteries, by and large, downplay RNG issues and carry on as usual. In contrast, many casual players won't play games they believe are potentially rigged. Hence, it's highly likely Mega Millions and Powerball will remain ball drawn for... [ More ]

Comment #54

DELotteryPlyr — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 22:35:38 GMT

Great stories of winning!! Keep sharing and CONGRATS

Comment #53

JoeBigLotto — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 19:56:05 GMT

So Remember converting 6666 to simple pick3 number has only one out come 666

Comment #52

Vickey — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 18:42:06 GMT

Illinois cheating again too they need to be investigated 10/10/2017 time 1:40 no pick 3 posted yet

Comment #51

Dead_Aim — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 18:24:46 GMT

Sent the same info to the MO Lottery staff to see what they said, here is their response. So this guy (Bryan Greer) beat the odds millions to 1 twice in a row and for the 3rd win 1 out of 250,000 all in the same promo.... lol... yeeeaaah...

MO Lottery's response:

The weekly merchandise drawings had average between 4.0 and 4.5 million entries per drawing. The $1000 cash prize drawings were right around 1.2 to 1.4 million entries per drawing, and the national parks drawing had approximately... [ More ]

Comment #50

JoeBigLotto — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 17:00:55 GMT

The above example involves converting complex pick4 numbers to simple pick3 numbers. But sometimes you want to convert simple pick3 numbers to complex pick4 numbers the cost is $5. For example l want to play 246 on pick3 so l decide to play $3 combo to win $250 or $500 if the number has two identical digit like 244 or 224. ok l decide on 246 so l play $3 combo and l also play extra $3 on the six numbers one digit away from 246 all $0.50 each box. So l play 146, 346, 236, 256, 245, 247 this gives... [ More ]

Comment #49

iamPACmomx3 — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:50:38 GMT

Thanks for the tip. I often will play my favorite numbers in pick 4 for them to drop in the Pick 3! Going to look at the numbers I have liked for the last few days and convert them to P3. I play in VA and most of our players think this state is one of the hardest to play in! Need a big hit bad

Comment #48

MsDiamond600 — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:17:09 GMT

Wow that's amazing JoeBigLotto!! You have me cracking up over here. Brush some of that luck over here.

Comment #47

JoeBigLotto — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 04:06:34 GMT

Thx . And my point is to win lottery you need to know how to manipulate simple numbers to complex numbers and complex numbers to simple numbers . And always remember you are gambling so that means you are ten times more likely to hit close to your target than to hit your target. so what does this really mean . Last week i was in texas i played 4567 box but i also decided to break down 4567 for pick three so i converted it to 456, 457, 467, 567 all combo $3 each. Result was 457 so i won only $250... [ More ]

Comment #46

grwurston — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 02:40:52 GMT

Congrats on that 567 hit! Good story! The 4567 hit 3 times in the last 30 days.

Thu, Oct 5, 2017

Kentucky

Pick 4 Evening

7-4-5-6

Wed, Sep 27, 2017

California

Daily 4

4-6-5-7

Fri, Sep 22, 2017

Kentucky

Pick 4 Evening

6-4-7-5

Comment #45

JoeBigLotto — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 01:01:18 GMT

Well I tell you what 4567 is actually my lucky number and have won well over $20,000 playing it so to you it sounds like fraud but to me it means I get more vip lap dances so what you call bad news is actually good news . I wasn't in Maryland on that day but am sure I played 4567 somewhere in America. I know you be saying it doesn't come everyday true. I mix it up with other lucky numbers to make my wolf pack lol . Just like I love chicken but eat beef sometimes to mix up my diet :) for example... [ More ]

Comment #44

MsDiamond600 — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:02:55 GMT

Wow that's insane. Well if we had identicals and consistency like MD I would always be ahead of the game LOL. By the way CT is a ball generated state also (allegedly but I believe it is pre-done). Oh and it is televised live.

I must say your play 4 in MD with the 4567 boxed below is far from a coincidence.

11/9/16 eve 6475

11/14/16 eve 5746

11/15/16 eve 7546

11/19/16 eve 7456

Happy Winnings

Comment #43

JoeBigLotto — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 23:37:02 GMT

HOW LAZY CAN ARIZONA LOTTERY OFFICIALS BE. Trying to save money should not result to less than 100 percent responsibility. There was a story about Timothy Tipton and random number generator fraud all over the news the state of Arizona acted deaf. There was another story about deleware keno producing repeat numbers like five consecutive times and everybody kept quiet and knew except Delaware officials until it was too late. And in Arizona before the number 9 was not in play for two months until p... [ More ]

Comment #42

grwurston — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:53:54 GMT

The thing is, who ever expects that many repeats? You see a couple here or there once in a while okay, but not like that. Hindsight is always 20-20.

Comment #41

Artist77 — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:39:28 GMT

I don't see any similar repeats in the VA lottery. I'd be playing PICK 3 if I lived in MD.

Comment #40

grwurston — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:31:32 GMT

Their lottery's jingle is, The Maryland lottery, let yourself play.

It should be, The Maryland lottery, you can't imagine what we will draw next.

I hope they never switch to RNG's.

Comment #39

RJOh — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:12:47 GMT

If the results aren't random and repeatable so much, you would think some one cold backward engineer a system to beat the odds.

Even a set of ball would probable repeat one in in a while with only a thousand possible outcomes, even worst when you throw in box hits.

Comment #38

Artist77 — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:04:26 GMT

You ought to be raking in big money there.

Comment #37

grwurston — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:43:05 GMT

If you want repeats move to Maryland. They want us to believe this is RANDOM. Yeah, right.

By the way, this is a BALL drawing state.

7/31 eve 271

8/1 eve 712

8/8 mid 941

8/8 eve 914

8/9 mid 642

8/10 eve 426

8/18 mid 590

8/19 mid 950

8/20 mid 287

8/20 eve 872

8/28 eve 095

9/1 mid 095

9/18 mid 426

9/19 mid 462

9/26 eve 484

9/29 mid 484

10/3 mid 897

10/4 eve 978

How about this?

1/21/17 eve 672

1/22/17 eve 627

1/23/17 eve 726

Or... [ More ]

Comment #36

Ron5995 — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 18:24:07 GMT

Lotteries rely very much, to the extent of often blindingly, on their lottery vendors and consultants. The failed $5 Monopoly Millionaire game is one example. Another is Texas Lottery original All or Nothing game which had no prize cap. Well that is until there was a near miss, which highlighted the problem, which should have been obvious from the start. However, again, lotteries rely mostly on vendors and consultants who often get paid a commission on sales; just see $$$. RNG draws are cheaper

Comment #35

Hermanus104 — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 18:03:49 GMT

I moved from Virginia to the Bearflag Republic earlier this year. Virginia's lottery uses balls. The Lottery of the Bearflag Republic does not.

Therefore, I do not play the lottery in the Bearflag Republic. The only ball games there are Super Lotto Plus, Powerball and Mega Millions. I don't play jackpot games because of they way they bilk lower-tier prize winners.

Comment #34

OneTrickpony — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 16:26:24 GMT

This issue really concerns me, as I do play The Pick in Arizona which uses RNG. I wanted to at least let them know that people are watching how they are handling this, and other situations regarding technical difficulties with no further explanation, and that people no longer have confidence in RNG's to generate fair and accurate winning numbers. I sent a comment through their website suggesting that they drop RNG's and go back to drawing balls, recording the draw and uploading it to their websi... [ More ]

Comment #33

MsDiamond600 — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 15:35:20 GMT

Detiny2008

Connecticut the same thing!!!! Take a look at our last numbers on the site. Sept 27 night 114 Sept 28 Night 141 Sept 30 Day 114 . Oct 3 Night 2081 , Oct 7 Night 1802 . Then Oct 8 Day 1740 , Oct 8 Night 7340 REALLY! It's been getting really bad and people here have been speaking about it. It's definitely far from a coincidence. The State is already doing bad financially, but geesh they are throwing in curve balls like crazy.

Comment #32

Ron5995 — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 15:19:26 GMT

If a lottery is going to cheat players on Pick-3 / Pick-4, they would seek ways to avoid triples / quads from coming out. You say Michigan Lottery drew 0000 and paid out $5 million. Seems a pretty good deal for players. Not seeing where the cheating is.

As for duplicate Pick-3 and Pick-4 numbers within a short time span, that's statistically more likely than many would expect. Nothing out of the ordinary there. If a lottery was out to cheat players, they wouldn't allow such repeats so soon, s... [ More ]

Comment #31

destiny2008 — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 13:59:46 GMT

They need to look into all State Lotteries like Michigan. Either they are cheating or got something rigged up to take a bunch of monies. Actually 0000 in the pick 4 came out a few weeks ago and players collected over 5 million dollars. I believe that was an intention for the lottery but they had to pay it out. Since then, Michigan is trying to collect that money back. They are repeating numbers like crazy even pick 4 are repeating. Really. I feel all State Lotteries need to be investigated. It s... [ More ]

Comment #30

rca1952 — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 20:50:47 GMT

Once again the computer way of number drawing is screwing up! BRING BACK THE BALLS

Comment #29

Ron5995 — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 20:22:57 GMT

There's truth in that. Lottery vendors are often paid sales commissions and/or bonuses, so they have a strong incentive to boost sales, even if that involves shady methods. Seeding instant top prize winners in such a manner that not all will be sold, pulling instant games early, etc. For numbers games, RNG is cheaper to run with less transparency. Who really knows what's going on the RNG box? Often the lottery doesn't truly know, because it's their vendor who handles that.

As for RNG rigging,... [ More ]

Comment #28

tnwinner — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 17:05:19 GMT

exactly BOYCOTT THE GAMES. The people at these state lotteries are on the take to the companies that sell the software. THAT IS WHY THEY ALL GO TO THE COMPUER RNG

Comment #27

paneagle — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:49:25 GMT

What results is what we put into it. Now they show up the electronic gaming in lottery producing exact replica tickets in many states. Replication and copy cat mentality. (Like watching a video poker game (stealing our money directly) and thinking to follow the suits to the poor house.

Vegas casino lottery and american dreams. the city is rocked, the country is rocked! Yes we could sue the entire country for expiadosis and even genocide. Free the American Indian. Why not all of us. no more in... [ More ]

Comment #26

MonEl — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 04:57:33 GMT

Almost like if the numbers had been pre-programmed to come out, but the job was not done right and it happened more than once.

Maybe:

Either somebody is trying to make some money

Or:

The numbers generated are not random, but pre-programmed to come out, either by the state lottery or by somebody or by a group of people trying to make some money (it would not be the first time that it happens), not everybody can predict numbers, but maybe some people can program them to come out as nee... [ More ]

Comment #25

Coin Toss — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 20:43:57 GMT

American Indian,

The Illinois Pick r, 5/45, has been over $1,000,000 several times.

Everyone,

Come to think of it a few years ago a neighboring town had their annual Apple Festival. Ny wife and I went on Saturday and Sunday.

While there we got QP's for the Illinois Pick 5 game at the same liquor store on both of those days. The tickets were identical except for one number.

Comment #24

American Indian — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 16:51:04 GMT

The duplicate #'s drawn on 9/28 10/3 were 1-4-8-12-28.................

While this is going on a Jackpot for Fantasy 5 In AZ was WON on 9/29 In the amount of $487,000????

We rarely have Fantasy 5 that HIGH!!!!!

HUMM CAN I SUE?

Talk about a rip off

Comment #23

Ron5995 — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 16:41:28 GMT

From what I can tell, most likely explanation is the officials simply turned the machine on and read off the previous drawing numbers still stored in memory.

Turning off the machine alone likely wouldn't erase the previous draw numbers. There are logical reasons for it to work that way, such as in the event of a power failure or freezing the machine's state for further examination after a drawing.

Still find it amazing to think the lottery officials just turned it on and read off the previ... [ More ]

Comment #22

Raven62 — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 14:03:39 GMT

Maybe Software or Firmware updates were recently applied to the RNG Computer.

Comment #21

paneagle — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 13:16:36 GMT

You are right that the time frame can produce an automatic return of the algorithm. But its not a glitch.Its all controlled. like you are. Again, I may be incorrect, but if not, your god idea is a pure glitch in the system.

Do we think trump threw the towel at puerto rico for past debts and taxes. well he sure did. you may be logically correct, but literally trump threw a roll of paper towels at the Poor'Rico people. Unreal, but there is no real god to bless him or anyone else. You can never... [ More ]

Comment #20

paneagle — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 12:51:40 GMT

THIS HUGE PROBLEM is indemic in Lotteries, not just computer generated games. It is easy to suspect the same programs are related to casino machines. There is a constant return of numbers/ in groups or bunched up. Many think it likely the coded algorithym is alive and well even in so called wheel ball random drawings. Anyone can tell they have made the lottery as hard to win as possible. It is like trying to run for office if you're not a christian. Forget about it'. It seems everything in the b... [ More ]

Comment #19

MillionsWanted — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 11:34:26 GMT

Someone has done something with the code. The computer technicians/software developers involved will be suspects.

Comment #18

JoeBigLotto — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 05:32:45 GMT

well it is simply fraud. Why well they knew for a long time with evidence that random generators are bul snip but for some reason they refuse to use real balls thats why i don't even bother playing in Arizona . They are behaving like the chinese government by trying to collect peoples money and control the ball out come and sometimes they get caught and they say oops error ye right bul snip .

This post has been automatically changed by the Lottery Post computer system to remove inappropriate... [ More ]

Comment #17

Todd — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:15:03 GMT

The other thing one can guess from this is that someone is mucking around in the code on the machine. Why else would it suddenly start spitting out repeated draw sequences? And why would the machine have access to previous drawing results that it could copy? If it DOESN'T have access to previous drawing results, then it is generating totally non-random numbers based on some kind of sequence or something.

It is an absolutely horrendous situation, and I would never buy a ticket for one of these... [ More ]

Comment #16

realtorjim — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 02:45:57 GMT

Exactly! It reminds me of a check factor, such as; if date is = ...and date is even/odd then..., which is looping instead of running through its sequence, which would end or delete the run. This is absolutely an opcode malfunction, not random coincidence.

Comment #15

Dead_Aim — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 02:40:19 GMT

Saw the exact same thing here in MO just a month or so ago. MO just got a new Phone app where you can scan old tickets for second hand drawing. I had tons of tickets I had saved over the years and took the time to put them all in (the ones it would take, there is time limits on them) on one of the promotional second hand drawings. I personally had 100's of entries by taking the time to put them all in. I got nothing. I totally get that with 100's of thousands of entries or even more. Yet Bryan G... [ More ]

Comment #14

Todd — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 02:38:55 GMT

Well, the machine in question is a MUSL machine, so that is an entirely fair question. MUSL claims that all the machines Tipton worked on were taken out of service, but that's the problem with computerized drawings who really knows what the hell they are doing behind the scenes? There is no way to witness a computerized drawing, so there is absolutely no way in this universe you or I could say with certainly that's it's all on the up and up.

With computerized drawings lottery players are goi... [ More ]

Comment #13

gatorsrok — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 01:43:25 GMT

The easy way to get states to stop using RNGs is to boycott the games. If people simply stopped playing those games, the loss of revenue would cause the states to go back to using balls. As long as states keep recording record sales, they have no incentive to change operations.

I also wonder if this problem exists with second chance drawings since those are computerized. Florida has been doing second chance drawings for losing scratch-off tickets for a few years now. About a year ago, one pe... [ More ]

Comment #12

Artist77 — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 01:13:22 GMT

Lol I thought the same thing. I think someone was experimenting with the RNG and messed up.

Comment #11

Artist77 — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 00:42:59 GMT

They might be using a simpler algorithm, perhaps? It was the same computer each time. Remember the hot lotto guy was able to tell ahead of time, from a few sets of numbers to play, what would hit on a certain day. I am determined to figure out one of these RNG algorithms before they all go away. There are no truly random numbers in an algorithm since they usually have to have a seed number to start. I guess the closest thing to randomness might be the mechanical drawings.

Comment #10

Coin Toss — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 00:32:15 GMT

Is Tipton in Arizona

Comment #9

Todd — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 00:12:48 GMT

Having all the games repeat the same drawing numbers on consecutive nights is not random numbers that just happen to repeat. The odds are so removed that it is literally impossible.

Comment #8

grwurston — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 00:08:32 GMT

I don't get it. Why is this a problem? Don't all the lotteries constantly tell us that, all the drawings are completely random?

If this was to happen in a ball drawing nothing would be said. Pick 3 and Pick 4 drawings repeat all the time back to back or within a few days. It's just random, right?

If they were completely random, then why do they think there is a problem?

Let it go. It is what it is, right? Sometimes these things happen. It's called a RANDOM number generator. But if the... [ More ]

Comment #7

Artist77 — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 00:01:49 GMT

I don't think it was a glitch. I read an article on algorithms a few weeks ago and learned that they repeat at some point. But the time frame could be any amount of time.

Comment #6

Bleudog101 — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 22:40:06 GMT

Time to dump RNG once and for all

Comment #5

Ron5995 — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 21:04:20 GMT

PA Treasure Hunt (5/30 game: 1 in 142,506) had duplicate numbers drawn too within a week of each other. 02 05 08 11 12 on both Monday Nov-24-2014 and Sunday Nov-30-2014. Always thought it was just chance, but, after reading this article, not so sure. The first occurrence was on a Monday and then the duplicate on the following Sunday. Could PA Lottery swapped out the machines and/or did maintenance that reset some parameters. Definitely wondering now.

11/24/14

Winning Numbers: 02 05 08 11 1... [ More ]

Comment #4

Tatototman65 — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 19:43:20 GMT

I refuse to support RNG games.

Comment #3

noise-gate — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 19:41:05 GMT

At this point : The RNG games need to head into the abyss. Consider this, if Tipton had not been apprehended- for him his ilk, it would continue to be as the Boss would sing Glory Days.

Bench that B*#!ch for good.

Comment #2

Raven62 — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 17:33:35 GMT

Was it a Design Failure? or Normal Operation

Comment #1

JADELottery — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 16:25:05 GMT

OO-OO, it's bo'kin.

Arizona Lottery computerized drawing machine generated identical winning numbers

Lottery Post — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 16:21:15 GMT

Machine taken out of service; no explanation offered

Once again computerized lottery drawings are coming under scrutiny as a machine responsible for generating random numbers has done the opposite, generating exact duplicates.

The Arizona Lottery is offering losing ticket refunds or exchanges from four games held over a recent six-day period because a machine used for the drawings generated the same winning numbers in consecutive games.

The games affected are Fantasy 5, Pick 3, All or N... [ More ]