Canadian man sues 16 friends for share of $1 million lottery prize despite not paying for ticket

Comment #50

djpowerball1234 — Mon, 09 May 2022 00:28:39 GMT

You snooze you lose.

Comment #49

Artist77 — Sat, 07 May 2022 11:46:17 GMT

It is interesting how some people do not understand how new pivotal facts can flip a case in another direction. That is litigation 101. Opinions are based on existing facts disclosed. And new facts could flip my opinion. Since the plaintiff had not been an employee for weeks and disappeared (and assuming the pool was for employees only), his case has been substantially weakened.

Comment #48

Stack47 — Sat, 07 May 2022 03:51:56 GMT

Just a suggestion, ignore the people suffering from delusions of grandeur; it will make your posting and reading experience more enjoyable.

Comment #47

db101 — Sat, 07 May 2022 03:35:28 GMT

It's almost as if people think they can post with getting their permission slip from you first. What is the world coming to

Comment #46

db101 — Sat, 07 May 2022 03:32:51 GMT

Well, well, well.

Who could have foreseen that development? Oh, that's right.

Comment #45

JWBlue — Fri, 06 May 2022 21:55:23 GMT

A lottery pool with a credit system ? What could go wrong

Comment #44

Artist77 — Fri, 06 May 2022 19:32:14 GMT

Uh oh. He no longer worked there and disappeared??? Very Substantial new fact. Ok.I agree he is likely out of luck now.

Comment #43

rdgrnr — Fri, 06 May 2022 19:02:42 GMT

I'll drink to that

Comment #42

Stat$talker — Fri, 06 May 2022 18:53:20 GMT

Maybe somebody should buy 'im a Jack Daniels then..hep him git ova it..

Comment #41

rdgrnr — Fri, 06 May 2022 18:31:37 GMT

He ain't gonna get Jack Schitt.

Comment #40

Stat$talker — Fri, 06 May 2022 18:29:08 GMT

Well, in light of such new factz concerning that case.. He soundz like a deadbeat, that'z also a Crackhead..!!

So,.. Tough Tiddie ..

Comment #39

cottoneyedjoe — Fri, 06 May 2022 18:22:53 GMT

The Toronto Sun recently covered this story and they are reporting some extra facts that are not in this article. https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/lottery-winners-wont-dish-out-share-of-1m-prize-to-pizza-delivery-driver-lawyer

Here is an excerpt:

Their winning ticket was in the June 22, 2021 draw nearly three weeks after his last working day.

The last draw Tsotsos took part in was on May 25, 2021. He asked to be included in a few more draws but had to borrow money from co-wor... [ More ]

Comment #38

Coin Toss — Fri, 06 May 2022 18:19:53 GMT

Artist77,

Funny how the refuting still goes on.

Agree with you totally on pools.

A lot of Maven University grads here, whose motto is OPINION OVER KNOWLEDGE

Comment #37

Stack47 — Fri, 06 May 2022 18:00:05 GMT

deserves a $70,000 share of the $1 million prize but the people that did pay to play got less. After the group won the $1 million prize, each individual took home about a $62,500 share .

And he was told he had pay to play or get kicked out. Another group member, Jessie Reid, reportedly reminded Tsotsos to contribute the $10 he owed to the pool so he wouldn't get kicked out, but he replied that he would be participating for certain. Apparently he never paid the $10 he owed the pool.

Tsots... [ More ]

Comment #36

noise-gate — Fri, 06 May 2022 13:32:10 GMT

* What's next, I don't like my Social Security #, so l want it changed? All this talk about they allowed him to play on credit had better be in writing cause l doubt any of these so called friends are going to be happy shelling out money to Phil.

* There's a reason he wasn't told that the 16 won, he knows it so do we

Comment #35

Raven62 — Fri, 06 May 2022 12:23:45 GMT

https://www.howtopronounce.com/tsotsos

Comment #34

Artist77 — Fri, 06 May 2022 10:52:17 GMT

I think that was a part of it too.

Comment #33

Artist77 — Fri, 06 May 2022 10:50:02 GMT

The press is not entitled to any alleged facts on a case. Most judges are not happy if more than a quick statement is made to the press. 99% of attorneys do not instruct clients to lie. Most of the comments here raised questions as to other possible facts and inconsistencies in the lottery pool rules. We did not rely on the article alone. Saying someone has a case simply means there are likely real facts or law in dispute as to survive a motion to dismiss.

Comment #32

db101 — Fri, 06 May 2022 06:00:26 GMT

His unpronounceable last name also irks me.

Comment #31

db101 — Fri, 06 May 2022 05:58:06 GMT

Who would read this article and say This must be a complete and true account of what happened and Mr. Tostitos has a real case! As if people and their lawyers do not lie to and conceal facts from the press all the time. LMAO. The defense lawyer obviously told his clients to be quiet. As my auntie says, what doesn't come out in the wash will come out in the rinse.

Comment #30

rdgrnr — Fri, 06 May 2022 02:47:06 GMT

I don't know if he'll win or lose, I just don't like the guy.

He's the kinda guy who disappears from the bar when it's his turn to buy a round.

I think he should be drawn and quartered.

Comment #29

Artist77 — Fri, 06 May 2022 01:20:01 GMT

Lol Coin Toss. Thank you. But you never know what a judge will do. I hope he appeals in a worst case scenario. Inconsistencies will benefit him and maybe send a needed message about sloppy and inconsistent rules.

And this is why I skip lottery pools.

Comment #28

Coin Toss — Fri, 06 May 2022 01:03:16 GMT

I thought this post by Aerist77 would have ended this thread;

But the fact that they let him play before on credit and pay later is what happened here, right? We have seen prior cases where people did this ...fast and loose verbal rules ...so he has a case.

And did he pay the $40 by Friday or not and how serious was that statement? Would the owed amount been increased again if he did not pay?

But yet the 'jailhouse lawyers' keep showing up to try and refute the real one

Comment #27

Artist77 — Thu, 05 May 2022 23:01:51 GMT

Agreed . The facts are in his favor.

Comment #26

spencerjames — Thu, 05 May 2022 22:49:11 GMT

Comment #25

spencerjames — Thu, 05 May 2022 22:41:37 GMT

I see most are ruling against him. I think he is in the right. He texted with both Reid and Todesco that he would pay the $40 on Friday and with Reid saying I am in for certain . They both respond with lol. Neither said, no you need to get the money in now to be in the draw. Further, they seemed to keep the win a secret, they knew they we're screwing him to get an extra $4000 each. snip ty move on their part. If they don't see each other regularly, it's a pain in the butt to meet up every time j... [ More ]

Comment #24

wander73 — Thu, 05 May 2022 16:45:27 GMT

I have read what I did, I can't stand people like this. I don't believe something of this story.

Comment #23

wander73 — Thu, 05 May 2022 16:44:29 GMT

this case is bs. they will throw out the case.

Comment #22

Artist77 — Thu, 05 May 2022 16:18:09 GMT

Well if his friends allowed others to pay on credit and then cut him out and treated him differently, they were never his friends. But this is not an integrity issue. It is a process fact issue. If you advance credit to others (even one person and one time), he has a case. It is not based on his likeability.

Comment #21

Stat$talker — Thu, 05 May 2022 13:52:12 GMT

...if there were no iron-clad rules being followed,...he does have a case..but look at the amount of Friendz he's losing over such a small amount of money..

Comment #20

rdgrnr — Thu, 05 May 2022 12:58:41 GMT

I can't stand cheapskates and that's what this guy is, a cheapskate. A penny-pinching, tight-ass, miserly tightwad. I can't stand people like that but I had the misfortune of working with one like that when I ran a pool with the guys I worked with many years ago.

Every week this guy was shy and promising to double up the next week and I knew he'd be the first one to be wanting his cut if we won. And I had to chase him around for the money when he didn't come around with it like he said he wou... [ More ]

Comment #19

GiveFive — Thu, 05 May 2022 12:23:07 GMT

I agree. If the group had not won a million, I'm willing to bet he'd owe the group more than 40 dollars. G5

Comment #18

MsBee18 — Thu, 05 May 2022 03:27:22 GMT

I'm sure he'd settle his amount once they won a substantial amount. Don't know if that's fair to the group.

Comment #17

cottoneyedjoe — Thu, 05 May 2022 00:17:58 GMT

I don't play in groups either. Most people don't want to hammer out clear rules or enforce payment to play. They think it's a buzzkill, or they're superstitious.

I'd like to know more backstory about how this group operated. So many unanswered questions:

Is Tsotsos being held to a higher standard than other group members who also took advantage of the credit system, or is he the only one who's habitually delinquent? Has it ever happened before that the group won while he owed money a... [ More ]

Comment #16

sdw1000 — Wed, 04 May 2022 23:33:58 GMT

The guy sounds like an idiot. This is why I don't play with other people.

Comment #15

Artist77 — Wed, 04 May 2022 22:17:25 GMT

But the fact that they let him play before on credit and pay later is what happened here, right? We have seen prior cases where people did this ...fast and loose verbal rules ...so he has a case.

And did he pay the $40 by Friday or not and how serious was that statement? Would the owed amount been increased again if he did not pay

Comment #14

Chevaun — Wed, 04 May 2022 20:40:30 GMT

The guy that said he charges a high interest should raise the interest on what he has to pay to cover all that he's claiming

Comment #13

Stack47 — Wed, 04 May 2022 20:25:08 GMT

Mr. Tsotsos did not pay to play, so we deny that he is entitled to any of the relief that he is seeking, and we'll be vigorously defending the claim, Robins contended. In this instance, he did not play and he was not included.

He did not pay to play ; what am I missing

Comment #12

Tony Numbers — Wed, 04 May 2022 19:05:56 GMT

Maybe they just didn't like this dude, and had every intention of stiffing him from the beginning

Comment #11

wander73 — Wed, 04 May 2022 18:50:02 GMT

Sorry for the fourth time commenting.

If it does go through court, he will be paying more than anything that would be won. Not worth it. not worth suing. He might have to show some assets if he owns anything to cover for the costs. You all really think a lawyer or judge wants this case. It's not worth it. If it was over a will, deed or something else different story.

Comment #10

wander73 — Wed, 04 May 2022 18:45:07 GMT

if it goes to court, waste of time. The judge will throw this out. Period.

Comment #9

wander73 — Wed, 04 May 2022 18:44:18 GMT

I already read majority of the story. I don't quite understand somethings to it.

Comment #8

wander73 — Wed, 04 May 2022 18:42:59 GMT

I already seen this story on msn. Really sad about people and something isn't adding up right on this story. The guy that is doing pizza delivery if what I read, isn't getting a dime. Not worth suing. So tired of people taking advantage of such things.

Comment #7

Tony Numbers — Wed, 04 May 2022 18:25:38 GMT

Sounds like this guy is the deadbeat of the group. If he had ponied up his share, we wouldn't be reading this.

Comment #6

Long Odds — Wed, 04 May 2022 17:46:09 GMT

Do the winners have a moral obligation to pay him a 1/17th share test: if they didn't win, would his tab have been increased by $10 from $30 to $40? If yes, he's included; if no, he's out. Legally is obviously a different issue. Integrity- what you do when no one is watching.

Comment #5

andl — Wed, 04 May 2022 17:37:35 GMT

You have to pay to play. He should get nothing.

Comment #4

TheMeatman2005 — Wed, 04 May 2022 17:35:24 GMT

Like my Daddy always said..... You play with fire and you'll get burnt

They asked him to pay and he didn't.

No soup for you

Comment #3

Raven62 — Wed, 04 May 2022 17:32:30 GMT

He's acting like the victim after mooching off his friends to play the Lottery.

Comment #2

noise-gate — Wed, 04 May 2022 17:30:25 GMT

* Found Phil's mug in the Toronto Sun online, and the guy looked pretty loaded for an interview. In all seriousness- Phil's chances of winning are the same as a donkey beating Secretariat at Churchill Downs. Just my opinion..

Comment #1

cottoneyedjoe — Wed, 04 May 2022 17:02:23 GMT

Tsotsos says the group had a credit system, meaning that he did not always immediately pay for lottery tickets leading up to the next draw. There were several instances where he owed $100, which he says he always paid off. In the six years he's participated in the group, he was never kicked out.

Leading up to the drawing last June, Tsotsos had owed $30 to the group and was told via text message by the group's organizer, Steven Todesco, that he would have to pay back the amount plus put anothe... [ More ]

Canadian man sues 16 friends for share of $1 million lottery prize despite not paying for ticket

Lottery Post — Wed, 04 May 2022 16:18:05 GMT

By Kate Northrop

A Canadian pizza delivery driver is lawyering up against his 16 friends who won a $1 million Lotto Max Maxmillion prize, saying that he is owed a portion of the money despite not paying for the winning Lotto Max ticket.

Philip Tsotsos of Windsor, Ontario claims he deserves a $70,000 share of the $1 million prize his 16 friends split last summer in a Maxmillion Lotto Max drawing, accusing the group of stealing his dreams.

Last June, a lottery group consisting of 16