PB Drawing for Saturday 12-18-04

Reply #35

JAG331 — Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:35:54 GMT

ha, you're too much, pigskin

Reply #34

pigskin — Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:28:49 GMT

Jag, you don't know how much I appreciate your suggestion. It brought out the thespian I never knew I had in me. I jumped up and gave forth with the words of Gold Hat(which bring smiles to all movie aficionados even though they were spoken in Treasure of the Sierra Madre, a movie released almost 60 years ago). When the bandit was trying to get to the Americans 'goods' he, Gold Hat, claimed he and his men were 'Federales'. Dobbs(Humphrey Bogart) asked to see their badges. Like Gold Hat I blu... [ More ]

Reply #33

JAG331 — Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:53:07 GMT

Heh, it might be a wiser bet to go with the cryptographologist, to enjoy your money while you can.

Reply #32

pigskin — Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:28:09 GMT

to Jag6 or 7 million years? Can you recommend a good doctor...a real good doctor.

Reply #31

ryanm — Tue, 21 Dec 2004 02:56:19 GMT

There was one $100,000 winner with PowerPlay (making it $300,000) right in my own state (Iowa)! Oh yeah! I hope it was my Grandpa's ticket; he always PowerPlay's his ticket.

Reply #30

fja — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:52:41 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by fja on December 18, 2004i quick picked these here on LPChief- a pleasure to see you as always...good luck on your picks!!!01 |25 | 26 | 27 | 49 +0802 | 05 | 06 | 08 | 51 +1519 | 20 | 24 | 39 | 48 +1718 | 26 | 33 | 43 | 50 +2012 | 22 | 30 | 39 | 53 +2213 | 21 | 23 | 33 | 40 +3208 | 20 | 24 | 30 | 36 +3402 | 04 | 18 | 51 | 53 +4003 | 25 | 46 | 47 | 51 +4004 | 32 | 38 | 41 | 50 +42nothing doing

Reply #29

JAG331 — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:39:28 GMT

Oh, haha, and it's also not until February of 2114 that you would hit 5 out of 10 numbers. Hitting 5 of 5 would happen in 27,497 years, and the jackpot on average in 1,154,899 years...although it might take you 6 to 7 million years...one line out of your 10 numbers hitting + Powerball. I think we both understand the importance of finding a code.

Reply #28

JAG331 — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:34:18 GMT

Pigskin,Best of luck.I believe drawings are random....but random is a decipherable pattern. In the end, I think we're trying to do the same thing, by the same means.

Reply #27

pigskin — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:14:36 GMT

Maybe I should have asked if there's a cryptographer who is a member of the LP.

Reply #26

pigskin — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:59:24 GMT

JagI think you are selling us a little short. I don't think it'll take me until 2114 to decipher the winning combo. My problem is that I'm not a cryptographer and when you compound that by the fact that I'm not too swift on a computer, that really makes it tough on me. But I'll get there before long. I've never forgotten a line from a Raymond Chandler mystery-Farewell My Lovely-when a female admirer of Philip Marlowe observed...You just keep hitting between guard and tackle figuring that'll... [ More ]

Reply #25

JAG331 — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:15:43 GMT

No, the odds of matching all 5 in a 5/53 game are 1:2,869,685. That never, ever changes.I've broken up the odds into a two-step analysis, pertinent to your challenge. If you manage to secure all 5 numbers drawn within your 10 selected, then you've got a 1:252 shot of matching all five on any given line. The second step is conditional upon the first. The If odds (having all 5 numbers) are 1:11,387.63888. The Then odds are 1:252. 11,387.63888 * 252 = 2,869,685 (subject to rounding discrepanc... [ More ]

Reply #24

pigskin — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:10:59 GMT

JagI'm not trying to be critical, but I'm not exactly clear as to what you are saying. I know that if there were only 10 white balls and you have to select the 5 winning #s, there are 252 possible 5# combos. I'm still trying to figure out what you mean when you say with 53 white balls, the odds are approx 11,000 to 1 if you can choose 10 balls in an effort to select the winning 5# combo? Is that what you are saying? If it is, then why not just pick 10 #s randomly and in one swell foop you ha... [ More ]

Reply #23

JAG331 — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:47:03 GMT

Aye,Thank you. I don't know nearly everything about odds and probabilities, but it is fun to work with the numbers.In response to the 10,584. Yes, complete wheel. 252 ways to draw 5 items out of a group of 10. Then you would have to match up each of those ways with the 42 Powerballs to ensure a jackpot win. 252*42=10,584. $10,584 is a small price to pay for a jackpot, and numerous wins on every tier below that.

Reply #22

ayenowitall — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:58:15 GMT

JAG,You're very good with the analysis of odds and probabilities.For all practical purposes, there's nothing wrong with rounding the numbers. I only mentioned that for puposes of clarification in explaining the dual matrix effect.Are those 1:10,584 odds based on the assumption that a complete wheel of the ten numbers is used?C'ya next challenge,aye

Reply #21

getpaid — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:09:38 GMT

top votes: 3 13 21 32 491.2.3...4..5.6..7.8.9.10.1112.13...14.15..16.1718..19.20..21...22..23..24.25..26..27..28.29..30.3132....33.3435.36..37..38..39..40..41.42..43..44..45.46.47..48..49....50.51.5253..

Reply #20

JAG331 — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:22:07 GMT

You're not reducing the odds...they remain constant. This challenge is focused on the five white numbers. The odds of randomly selecting 5 numbers correctly out of 53 are 1:2,869,685. That will never change.10 number choices is the arbitrary number we have agreed on. It could've been 6,13,18,35,48...or any other number between 5 and 53 inclusive. How tough is it to match all 5 numbers out of the 10 you've selected? Odds are 1:11,387.63888. How do you figure that out? The odds of matching... [ More ]

Reply #19

pigskin — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:59:50 GMT

I also had 2 hits on Saturday. 1 and 30.Let's get back to the odds of having selecting 10 numbers. I'm no matematician but it doesn't seem possible to reduce the odds from 2,9 mil down to 11 thou just by giving 5 more picks. And if we decided to increase the number of selections allowed in our challenge from 10 #s to 20 #s, how much lower would the odds drop....and how far would the odds drop if 30 numbers were allowed in the selection? It doesn't seem logical that you can increasethe # of s... [ More ]

Reply #18

JAG331 — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:59:47 GMT

Aye, thanks for clarifying. Correct, I rounded the 1:11,388 chance of matching all 5 drawn among 10 numbers. It is slightly tougher to match JUST 5 and not the Powerball, than it is to just Match 5. 42/41 = 2,939,677/2,869,685. Your odds of matching 5 (regardless of PowerBall) are still 53!/(5!*48!) = 1:2,869,685. It's along the same lines of why the odds of matching JUST the Powerball are not 1:42, they are 1:70.As for the numbers drawn, while I pegged the 25 and 29, I KNEW I should've gon... [ More ]

Reply #17

CASH Only — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:48:52 GMT

Sorry you couldn't do better.

Reply #16

kbcherokee — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:35:24 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by kbcherokee on December 16, 2004Tso-gali-I-Here are the number's in my Wheel for Saturday-45, 40, 43, 04, 14, 47, 36, 42, 49, 35, 03 and 13My probable PB number's = 04, 07, 19, 20, 37 and 38 Good luck to all of you Chief All I could come up with this time was the #45.

Reply #15

CASH Only — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:34:01 GMT

Haven't played Powerball since the $171 million pot.

Reply #14

ayenowitall — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:24:27 GMT

Looks like pigskin's record of matching three of the PowerBall game's 5/53 numbers from ten selections is still intact. RJOh called the 29, and JAG331 had the 25 and 29 balls for a respectable two out of ten. My own numbers were a complete bust in this drawing.I've already figured up my numbers for the Wednesday drawing. I'll see all you challengers back here in the Jackpot Games forum for another round then.Good luck,aye

Reply #13

RJOh — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:12:44 GMT

Sounds reasonable. I think I understand.In the PB game with 42 bonus numbers there are 120,526,770 possible combinations with forty-two 5of5 combinations. Since one of them wins the jackpot there are 41 left that can win second prize, thus 120,526,770/41=2,939,677.31Without the bonus ball there are 2,869,685 possible combinations with only one 5of5 combination that can win. Using the rounded up numbers in the calculations resulted in 2,869,776 instead of 2,869,685 which is actually the possibl... [ More ]

Reply #12

ayenowitall — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:53:56 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on December 18, 2004Quote: Originally posted by JAG331 on December 18, 2004FYI, the odds of having all 5 drawn numbers within your allotted 10 numbers are 1:11,388. Once you manage that, you've got a 1:252 chance of winning $100,000 on any given line. The regular odds of matching 5of5 in PB is 1:2,939,677. Multiplying 11,388 by 252 equals 2,869,776. Does this mean your odds of matching 5of5 is improved by playing from a pool of 10 numbers instead of 53?RJOhRJO... [ More ]

Reply #11

kbcherokee — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:26:06 GMT

fja:Good luck to you as well.Chief

Reply #10

RJOh — Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:41:33 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by JAG331 on December 18, 2004FYI, the odds of having all 5 drawn numbers within your allotted 10 numbers are 1:11,388. Once you manage that, you've got a 1:252 chance of winning $100,000 on any given line. The regular odds of matching 5of5 in PB is 1:2,939,677. Multiplying 11,388 by 252 equals 2,869,776. Does this mean your odds of matching 5of5 is improved by playing from a pool of 10 numbers instead of 53?RJOh

Reply #9

JAG331 — Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:09:25 GMT

FYI, the odds of having all 5 drawn numbers within your allotted 10 numbers are 1:11,388. Once you manage that, you've got a 1:252 chance of winning $100,000 on any given line.

Reply #8

JAG331 — Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:31:03 GMT

In accordance with the Pigskin Challenge:3-16-22-23-25-29-32-37-42-49

Reply #7

CASH Only — Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:03:45 GMT

Good luck tonight

Reply #6

RJOh — Sat, 18 Dec 2004 20:10:23 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by ayenowitall on December 17, 2004The Pigskin Challenge: Select ten numbers from the PowerBall 5/53 matrix and try to catch as many of the numbers drawn as possible.In the last 10 draws, numbers that had hit 11 and 8 times in the previous 100 draws were the most popular, so I'm picking:09 37 43 44 47 13 15 27 29 32RJOh

Reply #5

CASH Only — Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:36:50 GMT

Pigskin? Football fan

Reply #4

fja — Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:33:58 GMT

i quick picked these here on LPChief- a pleasure to see you as always...good luck on your picks!!!01 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 49 +0802 | 05 | 06 | 08 | 51 +1519 | 20 | 24 | 39 | 48 +1718 | 26 | 33 | 43 | 50 +2012 | 22 | 30 | 39 | 53 +2213 | 21 | 23 | 33 | 40 +3208 | 20 | 24 | 30 | 36 +3402 | 04 | 18 | 51 | 53 +4003 | 25 | 46 | 47 | 51 +4004 | 32 | 38 | 41 | 50 +42

Reply #3

ayenowitall — Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:12:31 GMT

The Pigskin Challenge: Select ten numbers from the PowerBall 5/53 matrix and try to catch as many of the numbers drawn as possible. pigskin holds the current record of catching three numbers. Match four or five to become the heir to the throne and cash a big ticket. Hook your numbers to the right red PowerBall number and you could be the next PowerBall jackpot winner!I've come up with the following ten numbers for Saturday night's drawing. I'll be using the same red PowerBall number with all my... [ More ]

Reply #2

hypersoniq — Fri, 17 Dec 2004 21:17:08 GMT

Still undecided on white balls, but for the P.B. I am going with 16

Reply #1

getpaid — Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:27:55 GMT

Back to the routine. I say enough with all the recurring number so I am gonna bet on fresh new sets of numbers, more evens than odds.So here are my ten numbers: 10 18 20 21 24 26 32 39 44 49No call on PB.good luck

PB Drawing for Saturday 12-18-04

kbcherokee — Fri, 17 Dec 2004 01:31:40 GMT

Tso-gali-I-Here are the number's in my Wheel for Saturday-45, 40, 43, 04, 14, 47, 36, 42, 49, 35, 03 and 13My probable PB number's = 04, 07, 19, 20, 37 and 38 Good luck to all of you Chief