computers record the combinations played

Reply #27

southwind — Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:08:51 GMT

no problem. ive scanned my tickets for ten years and i see all types of info dmbedded within the fibers you cant see with the naked eye. i also have used a counterfeit pen as used in retail facilities for money and the tickets come out asgenuine. i really dont understand why so many members here are ignoring your question or flapping off about security and the necessity for recording your personal numbers. maybe they dont feel that the numbers they have purchased are personal but i do. it doesnt... [ More ]

Reply #26

Maverick — Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:49:36 GMT

southwind, that's exactly what sparked my questioning thread. I totally agree with you. However, it's the rollover factor that is so far the only logical reason for them to record the number combinations (for Pick 6 games and also maybe Pick 10 games). If there is a solution for that, I'd love to hear about it.Thank you for your input.

Reply #25

southwind — Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:45:08 GMT

if you are in doubt of this and you have acanner at home you cn scan your ticket and magnify it and see for yourself. toodles

Reply #24

southwind — Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:42:44 GMT

recoding the combinations played is invasion of privacy and cheating. all thats needed is a encrypted serial number placed with each ticket to validate that ticket. you can call any vendor who manufactures any rng or ball machine to verify this. recording numbes played is not needed for security reasons at all. the tickets themselves are made of certain fibers and have hidden words and stuff within the entire ticket fibers. the machine pint head also is a special print head which is made for lot... [ More ]

Reply #23

southwind — Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:27:07 GMT

then thats cheating the public.

Reply #22

ryanm — Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:16:55 GMT

If the lotteries did not have liability limits, then all online games would be pari-mutuel. Even Powerball and Mega Millions have prize liability limits; they're just so huge that it's unlikely they'll ever bust (Mega Millions limits total prize liability for a drawing to the lower of 300% of sales or 50% of sales + $50 million).

Reply #21

LOTTOMIKE — Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:04:42 GMT

i think what he is trying to say is what if they start rejecting large sets of numbers that way it would be harder for players to play a certain set of numbers and therefore decrease the chances of winning.......

Reply #20

Maverick — Mon, 27 Dec 2004 06:25:57 GMT

southwind, I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. Sorry.

Reply #19

southwind — Sun, 26 Dec 2004 10:51:59 GMT

if you preset the liability on any game you are cheating. a game is supposed to be a game and if you preset the amount you decide you want to payout to the public then its no longer a game and if thats being done anywhere then those states should not have lottery games to begin with.if someone goes and buys a ticket and the playslip is rejected for liability purposes then this is cheating.who is to say whether or not you can win? if it breaks their bank thats their problem. if they dont have the... [ More ]

Reply #18

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:36:35 GMT

all the info is right there in the lottery database at lottery headquarters.they know seconds after the drawing whether or not a jackpot has been hit whether or it is unclaimed or not...same goes for powerball........they have it setup to where these kind of mistakes don't happen......

Reply #17

ayenowitall — Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:45:42 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Maverick on December 24, 2004 So far, the only minor potential problem that I can think of is if the winning jackpot ticket goes unclaimed for 2-4 weeks or longer, what happens to the rollover factor, since the lottery office would not immediately know if there is a winning jackpot ticket. I'm sensing that would not be a problem at all.Maverick,It seems to me that would indeed be quite a problem. Since lottery sales go right on, how would players know how much they're... [ More ]

Reply #16

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:37:37 GMT

lol,i got lost somewhere in the translation.......if we could maverick down to indiana to grill them with these questions he'd be a hero

Reply #15

jim695 — Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:14:12 GMT

Maverick:Okay, that's it; I give up.I never thought I'd see the day, but you've stumped me with that one. You've obviously put a lot of thought into this, so what would it take to get you to move to sunny Indiana and become our lottery director

Reply #14

jim695 — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:32:46 GMT

Maverick:All lottery transactions must be recorded in some type of electronic database. Otherwise, how would they know which tickets to pay? Way back in the 1930's and 40's, the numbers were written on slips of paper which were held by the bookie until that day's number was determined by some random dvent, such as the winners of the second, fifth and eighth horse races at Belmont Park, or the day's closing value of the Dow-Jones Industrial Average. Today, most states counter the inherent flaws i... [ More ]

Reply #13

four4me — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:31:54 GMT

Usually pick 5/6/10 games have a set amount which should be on the back ot the play slip. They set that up like that for the same reason to avoid a meltdown. If 100 people played the same numbers they are all going to split the jackpot.In maryland we had 13 people win the bonus match five which is a fixed payout of $600,000 or up to twelve tickets so instead of each person getting 50 g's they had to split the 600 grand prize pool up in 13 peices. Still not a bad pay day. Tax free prize.All lott... [ More ]

Reply #12

Maverick — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:14:55 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by four4me on December 24, 2004Why do they record the combinations played?This is the explanation that was given on the public television show I saw. The lottery records all transactions to there main terminal. One main reason is if people woke up one morning and everybody started playing say 1111 for midday because they all had the same premonition that 1111 was going to come out. And 5/6/7 thousand people or more all played that number. The pay out would be astronomica... [ More ]

Reply #11

four4me — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:09:26 GMT

will your not an idiot. next time you think 1111 will hit get the number in advance tell the counter person you want to play it. I think you can only play it up to a week in advance but it may be longer.

Reply #10

WPR85 — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:05:45 GMT

I'm from Rhode Island....We have only a Pick 4 game and i'll tell you a little philosophy that i've developed about this lottery gig....Now we all now that no matter what the lottery in most cases makes a hell of a lot of money....But i think the reason they record the numbers played is so that they can place limits on how many times a certain combination can be played.......The reason i think this is because me and my girlfriend started dating on November 11......The reason i give this bit of u... [ More ]

Reply #9

four4me — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:54:29 GMT

i wrote all this i'm posting because i saw your reply on the other thread and many people have given some good answers. Here's what i got for ya.Maybe we shouldn't talk much about this in case officials are reading this lolI'm sure they are reading stuff on here many of these posts are read by thousands of people on the net while surfing for lottery related stuff I often see links to the lottery post. And by now I'm sure that the officials have caught wind of lottery post. Why do they record th... [ More ]

Reply #8

Maverick — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:10:15 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Maverick on December 24, 2004Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on December 24, 2004All that information is necessary to confirm the real winners and to know the actual amount that should be paid out. To know the actual amount that should be paid out. Ahh there we go. Lemme ask another question. How about if the combinations were on the ticket/s bought, but a technique was made where the combinations did not show up on their end, on their computers, all to keep our conf... [ More ]

Reply #7

Todd — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:45:30 GMT

If the lotteries didn't keep track of the numbers they sold, the lottery games would degenerate into criminal enterprises, or at least the public would feel that way. Any Joe Schmoe could forge a ticket and claim a big jackpot.

Reply #6

RJOh — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:44:59 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Maverick on December 24, 2004Hmm, validate meaning to know whose ticket won? If yes, are there other ways for them to know if a ticket won? Like serial numbers on the ticket is one way I think. The serial numbers are checked in a raffle because that's what you buy when you buy a raffle ticket. In a lottery, the serial number is associated with numbers on the ticket, if you don't know what should be on the ticket, the serial number has no value. That is the differen... [ More ]

Reply #5

Maverick — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:35:51 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on December 24, 2004All that information is necessary to confirm the real winners and to know the actual amount that should be paid out. To know the actual amount that should be paid out. Ahh there we go. Lemme ask another question. How about if the combinations were on the ticket/s bought, but a technique was made where the combinations did not show up on their end, on their computers, all to keep our confidence in the lotteries' trueness. So if someone did have... [ More ]

Reply #4

JAG331 — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:33:02 GMT

Immediately following a draw on a jackpot game, the lottery knows how many, if any, jackpot tickets were sold. So if one ticket won, and two people claim to have winning tickets, they know at least one of those people is lying. It saves a lot of hassle.

Reply #3

Maverick — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:29:56 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on December 24, 2004There's a very good reason: so they can validate your ticket.Hmm, validate meaning to know whose ticket won? If yes, are there other ways for them to know if a ticket won? Like serial numbers on the ticket is one way I think. I may be wrong, but I think it is a poor reason on their part for why they record all combinations.Also, why is it even an issue for them to know a ticket won, even if unclaimed? Thousands if not millions of draws go unwo... [ More ]

Reply #2

RJOh — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:29:39 GMT

All that information is necessary to confirm the real winners and to know the actual amount that should be paid out. Or, they could depend of people honesty and pay anyone any amount they claim to have won, but they might end up paying out more than the ticket sales since most players think they should win more than they spend.RJOh

Reply #1

Todd — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:18:44 GMT

There's a very good reason: so they can validate your ticket.

computers record the combinations played

Maverick — Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:09:01 GMT

Lets put our heads together. Why do lottery officials/computers record the combinations played before every draw? There are marketing reasons, but how relevant are those reasons? I dunno. I think if anything needs to be logged it's what game it is, where it is bought, when it is bought, and how much the ticket was. For now, I don't see any logical reason for them to record the combinations played. What do y'all think