Track together or seperate....

Reply #22

MADDOG10 — Fri, 27 May 2005 16:01:17 GMT

to me, it doesn't matter whether they are separated or not I treat them as the same because numbers do come in bunches, and the best time to take advantage of them is when they show up. I follow the trends of numbers and have found through out the years they follow this action..

Reply #21

JAG331 — Fri, 27 May 2005 15:11:58 GMT

Separate gets my vote. But I only have time to play Evening draws a few nights a week.

Reply #20

four4me — Fri, 27 May 2005 15:04:59 GMT

There's no definitive way to track the numbers if you don't know what standards are in place. So i figure it like this lottery personal aren't allowed to play the games. Their primary job is to make money for the state. Just like we try and out smart them. It's very possible they are trying to out smart the players. They can do any number of things to change the out come of a draw so to mess with anybody's idea of using a system to win the game.Put yourself in the place of one of the workers the... [ More ]

Reply #19

MollyG — Fri, 27 May 2005 12:44:14 GMT

Go with the flow of how your state handles the operation of the game.Texas considers the 2 draws as a continuing game. They use the same machines (total of 3, using 1 for a month), same balls (they are using 8 sets currently). They even list the game number combined, like #4591(example), then #4592...If your state operates the 2 draws separately, then by all means, separate them, as they are not related.

Reply #18

Rick G — Fri, 27 May 2005 04:00:51 GMT

Four4me, that's why I think it's so important to see what is happening right now, not within the last 50 draws....you can call it Ion Saliu's Fundamental Formula for gambling, Sal's four stack , tic-tac-toe or whatever, but a majority of the time the numbers come from the last four draws.We have to take every advantage we can in this game. Numbers come in bunches so we must use this to our advantage.

Reply #17

hosni — Fri, 27 May 2005 03:46:23 GMT

For CA I run Separate and Combined. At times Separate brings home a winner, other times Combined. Platinum John in sunny and 80F cool California

Reply #16

four4me — Fri, 27 May 2005 03:38:23 GMT

Yea Rick i know the are using the same set of balls when i see stuff like this5/23/20054863770 66107485/24/20056624875 70521155/25/20058894619 53741145/26/20056612898 2464141

Reply #15

Rick G — Fri, 27 May 2005 03:26:04 GMT

Konane,I think IL started in '72 as an evening-only game. I know that when GA pick 3 first started its game it was using the IL draw for its results (similar to IA and IL). Don't know when GA started its own or when FL started.Four4me,I agree with the concept of keeping your draw history short...it eliminates the worry about machine and ball set changes. Biases come and go as fast as some relatives at Thanksgiving (after dinner of course).

Reply #14

gilla — Thu, 26 May 2005 19:12:51 GMT

seperate and combined

Reply #13

four4me — Thu, 26 May 2005 18:42:48 GMT

This post started about ball drawings and then someone threw computer draws into it. In computer draws there is no set way of determing which game to track. If the computer is generating the numbers from the same chipset then i would track them both. If like Todd said in PA then seperate. The problem tracking the computers is the same almost with ball drawing in that unless you have an insider that could inform you before hand each drawing wether there using the same pc or a different pc. Or th... [ More ]

Reply #12

konane — Thu, 26 May 2005 17:32:02 GMT

Not sure which lottery is older FL or IL, but FL posts ballset and machine information on their site for anyone to search.My qualm is with lotteries which were set up during the computer era that do not have that information readily available, including GA which came about under Rebecca Paul's direction, also TN which did the same.IMHO when an lottery entity is dealing with public money it should follow the example of FL and TX which post ballset information on their sites.

Reply #11

Dead_Aim — Thu, 26 May 2005 17:05:43 GMT

Separate.I would think if you track them together you would have to play both midday and evening all the time to get the number you are after. Since I track separate, I can play the midday game only or the evening game only without feeling like I am going to miss something by not playing the other drawing. For me it is cheaper and easier.Many winners to you.D_A

Reply #10

Rick G — Thu, 26 May 2005 16:56:44 GMT

Konane, I can understand your frustration at lack of response on this issue. State lotteries should make their game rules and procedures completely open to the public.I'm fortunate to know a stagehand who helped with the IL drawings so I have the inside scoop. I seriously doubt that they would have provided me this info had I asked them.

Reply #9

emilyg — Thu, 26 May 2005 16:47:00 GMT

seperate

Reply #8

Todd — Thu, 26 May 2005 16:44:48 GMT

Always separately for me.An extreme example of why they should be separate is Pennsylvania: midday draws are with a computer RNG, and evening are traditional ball machines.

Reply #7

SirMetro — Thu, 26 May 2005 16:35:59 GMT

I have noticed in GA that it varies every few days. Sometimes the winning number will come from the previous day (midday to midday/eve to eve) and then sometimes, they hit one after the other (midday to evening). I track the numbers by the game and as a combined total, hoping to catch it when I see the number occuring several places.Sir Metro

Reply #6

konane — Thu, 26 May 2005 16:29:31 GMT

Have written the TN Lottery to find out whether TN Cash 3 and TN Cash 4 draws come from the same group of ballsets but have no answer yet after about 3 weeks. Not holding my breath for an answer. Since you guys have our old lottery director I can almost guarantee that she is doing the same thing she did here by pulling both draws from the same group of ballsets, so do take both games into consideration when running down the numbers.

Reply #5

Rick G — Thu, 26 May 2005 15:52:09 GMT

Takeitez, good poll question and it's something that I have grappled with for years and is always a good subject for discussion.As four4me suggested, it would be very helpful to know how your state picks its machines and ballsets for each drawing. For example, in IL the machines and ball sets are picked in a separate random drawing from fifteen machines and ball sets before each drawing.In this situation one might consider combining the draws. However there do seem to be anomalies between the... [ More ]

Reply #4

Tnplayer805 — Thu, 26 May 2005 15:49:03 GMT

I almost won a $.50 box yesterday in TN. I'm going to play GA and TN tonight.

Reply #3

tntea — Thu, 26 May 2005 15:47:22 GMT

I use both draws.. Seems that picking which comes next is easier when goingmid to eveeve to midmid to eve I even broke Tn numbers down to look as if each is a separate draw... Picking has been easier..

Reply #2

four4me — Thu, 26 May 2005 15:34:06 GMT

Every state that uses ball machines might do there drawings with the same balls and machines and then againg they might rotate the equipment. Once in a while they might break out the newest equipment. Unless you or a friend works there you don't have a clue as to what procedures are in place.Some places have the witness pick the balls sets and the machines from a group of machines. Some places might have the acting drawing official pick the balls and machines.As far a tracking games is concerned... [ More ]

Reply #1

takeitez — Thu, 26 May 2005 15:14:26 GMT

try it againez

Track together or seperate....

takeitez — Thu, 26 May 2005 13:13:57 GMT

From the postings in the past some say track together, some say track as separate games. Someone said it is like putting a long row of fish bowls with 10 balls in each then waking down the line and drawing 1 ball from each therefore track as the same game. Some say the ball sets and machines are different mid and evening therefore track as separate games. If you would, please state your choice and the reason why. Thank youGood Luckez