Pick 3 System - VTRAC Experiment

Reply #31

tntea — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 05:00:45 GMT

With the vtrac 232 hitting on Sept 10 in FL.. the next night I went with the opposite of double vtrac and played 332 and the same vtrac played on Sept. 10.. got a double hit playing that way..

Reply #30

tntea — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:58:21 GMT

I do my figuring something like that..I see what has been out in last four draws..Then look to see when the last time it was drawn.. and what other vtracs it fell with.. then I look to see what that vtrac fell with last.. and then make combos with it..Sometimes if double vtracs have been out a while.. I double up the one missing for over 4 draws with what it fell with last..I also play the reverse of a double vtrac and the double vtrac itself..I box them of course since I am playing more than 8

Reply #29

retxx — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:37:14 GMT

so far i have this for today. pos 1 v-2=14dys out. pos 2 v-1=14dys out also pos 2 v-5=11 dys out.pos 3 nothing all 1 2 3 4 5 within 5dys. how do I apply these to the letter columns and what do I play for a couple days help.

Reply #28

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:28:17 GMT

wtgThe VTRAC 145 has hit 7 times in the last 35 drawings.To be perfectly honest I did not see any picks for Midday.Sory I could not answer your question.wsls

Reply #27

undress — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:13:29 GMT

Well Winsum, I might of been comfused but it worked out for me...Short sum overdue in mich were 145V-145= 034,039,084,089,534,539,584,589935 Midday

Reply #26

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:27:34 GMT

This was today's Midday ChartsStateLAST CodeVTRACABCDE DRAWN CA3255410370CT3455101338DC314536071DE3115611020GA3245491011IL312254029IN345540237KY322402581MD314450128MI324571302MO334531420NJ3335152011NY333412034OH315536901PA3245211504SC3115181350TX334517390TS335501823VA313510463

Reply #25

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:25:16 GMT

pc,Just started using this idea. I haven't played with real money yet.Maybe some folks here might come up with additional ideas.wsls

Reply #24

pacattack05 — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:19:57 GMT

Thanx for the explanation wsls.What do you think of the long term? Is there a profit? Do you play everyday, or only days when a particular column is overdue

Reply #23

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:09:07 GMT

pc,Florida's Pick 3 last night was 112.When you convert to VTRAC = 2 2 3Vtrac 1 = Digits 0 5Vtrac 2 = Digits 1 6Vtrac 3 = Digits 2 7Vtrac 4 = Digits 3 8Vtrac 5 = Digits 4 9Since Vtrac 223 hit last night I use a 0 which represents hit from the last drawing.So Column E now is at 0 all the other columns increase by 1.wsls

Reply #22

pacattack05 — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:00:26 GMT

What does the 0 skip in column e mean? Thanx.

Reply #21

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:33:50 GMT

This is this evenings charts:Notice the states with multiple skips of 10 or more in more than 1 lettered column.StateLAST CodeVTRACABCDE DRAWN AZ311280136CA3115136310CT355562051DC3224014173DE3233012413FL322352340GA323309315ID324518905IL3445021113IN32330524171KS334443102KY32443601910LA3125013721MD312341509MA3F112801021MA3B124112150MI322403216MN3113280610MO334429701NE344503921NJ323480231NM314410862NY312508951OH315571302PA3345131020RI3F44437520RI3B34416205SC333417082TN333573205TX3344... [ More ]

Reply #20

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:28:32 GMT

Bob,My Florida Chart looks like this: A B C D E 5 2 3 4 0 = Current Skips A B C D E 111 333 555 222 444 224 112 113 114 115233 144 122 155 133355 225 244 335 223445 455 334 344 255 125 135 145 123 124134 234 235 245 345I'm tracking each column.Look at last night VTRAC combination of 223. Notice in column E you see a 0. This means column E has a current skip of 0.wsls

Reply #19

CARBOB — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:05:43 GMT

WSLS, I have this for Fla, as the current skips, is yours the same?Carbob ABCDE37902 13110509214

Reply #18

pacattack05 — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:39:59 GMT

Yes, I just found out. I went to tntea's last blog entry and saw the list. The only thing is that in the list under doubles she wrote 233/332. There was no 223, unless it was a typo.I now know how to convert the numbers and went back 15 days in Florida's cash 3 and there was only one box hit of 229 and yesterday's straight hit of 112. With an average of about 8-12 numbers to play daily, I would have definitely been ahead by about $350.00, if played the last 15 days. I'll have to do a couple of m... [ More ]

Reply #17

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:36:53 GMT

Undress,The current Michigan Charts look like this: A B C D EMidday 7 1 3 0 2 = current skipsEvening 0 3 2 1 6 = current skipsMidday is a possible play for today and tomorrow and Wednesday. Column A is currently at 7 skips. Michigan Midday recently has a max skip of 9 for all Columns A through E.Midday VTRAC from yesterday was 2 4 5.My choices would be to include any of the 3 previous VTRACS and use the VTRAC combinations from the following chart: A

Reply #16

CARBOB — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:20:29 GMT

pacattack05, The Vtracs number was 223. Which gives you Combos 112,117,162,167,612,617,662,667 . I don't think she meant for you to play 223, she was giving you the Vtrac combos.BTW, WSLS nice job on the charts.Carbob

Reply #15

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:05:33 GMT

mccliffy,Never heard of PNE'sSorry!!wsls

Reply #14

pacattack05 — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:49:37 GMT

I obviously didn't understand vtracs enough because 112 came out in Florida, and tntea said to play 223...and 332....thinking those were the only 2 numbers to play. There were approximately 10 other numbers that I wasn't aware of that included 112.I could have used the $500.00. Oh well, my fault. I guess theres something I'm failing to understand here.Something about root sums

Reply #13

undress — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:33:09 GMT

Ok so let's say michigan has the1-4-5 short sums out for more than 15 daysdo i look at the 145 combos

Reply #12

mrcliffy — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:05:20 GMT

This looks like an offshoot of the PNEs(Positioning-Number-Environments) thatLottoscorp proposed when he first introduced the Vtracs. Have you usedthe PNEs or have any information on them

Reply #11

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:37:50 GMT

retxx,I would consider125 and 143 VTRACS from column A for the next 2 days.wsls

Reply #10

retxx — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:23:55 GMT

A column in Mass. back 3 has 10 skips Sun. What would you play Mon for numbers on the back 3 as an example? Thanks

Reply #9

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:00:01 GMT

The highlighted numbers in RED represent any skips of 10 or more.The ideal range seems to be between 10 and 14 skips. Any skips over 15 don't bother chasing unless it closes in on that states highest skip for that particular letter column. Ideally, the more past drawing history you have the better.]Indiana Evening has 2 columns that are primed for a hit from eith the C or D column.All states of course have different maximum skip totals.Another idea is to look at the past 35 drawings and see wh... [ More ]

Reply #8

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:45:19 GMT

This was the chart before any Evening Drawings Sunday night:StateCodeABCDEAZ380136CA3125203CT3512540DC3103162DE3601312FL341230GA378204ID318905IL3810102IN32423160KS3320111KY3250189LA3312610MD330498MA3F72910MA3B101045MI3132105MN317059MO318630NE303921NJ379120NM310862NY317840OH371302PA302913RI3F26410RI3B05124SC306571TN362104TX3257011TS3313250VA384130WA340152WV3270101WI360731BC3821190ON3152501QC3351402WC3018511

Reply #7

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:27:22 GMT

I track all states including the Canadian Pick 3'sI'll give you an example:Indiana EveningSaturday's Evening was VTRAC 345Columns C and D are 23 and 16 skips.Vtrac 1 has not occured in the past 5 drawings.Possible combinations to play:145 and 123Boxed Digit Combinations:034,039,084,089,534,539,584,589012,017,062,067,512,517,562,567

Reply #6

retxx — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:19:48 GMT

wonder if someone has an excel chart that we can enter past draws and have it convert to vtracs and then it could spit out most likely plays. anybody know someone

Reply #5

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:13:35 GMT

What if we take the ABCDE Chart and split it into:1. Upper Teir Group2. Lower Teir GroupIt would look something like this:Eliminating the Triple VTRACS A B C D E 224 112 113 114 115355 225 244 335 223 <<Upper Teir Grouping>>125 135 145 123 124 233 144 122 155 133445 455 334 344 255 <<Lower Teir Grouping>>134 234 235 245 345

Reply #4

RJOh — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:11:54 GMT

What is the experiment? Are you comparing the winnings of the Vtrac combinations to an equal amount or randomly picked combinations. As far as I know no one has ever proved that Vtrac is any better than a RNG or any other way of picking numbers including QPs. Everybody already know how to pick numbers to play, what they really want to know is how to pick numbers that win some money.

Reply #3

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:06:51 GMT

Possible playing strategies is to track your states Pick 3 drawing history and convert the digits to VTRACS.Look at the last drawn VTRAC combination and include at least 1 VTRAC from the previous drawing.Look for a VTRAC in all 3 positions that are currently out 5 or more drawings.Look for lettered columns A through E that are between 10 and 15 drawings out.Play only VTRAC boxed combinations with either a 1 in the 1st position.orPlay only VTRAC boxed combinations with either a 5 in the 3rd posi... [ More ]

Reply #2

retxx — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:04:36 GMT

could you give an example as to how one would use the vtrac and combine it with the short sums to play a pick 3. I assume we would use the last drawn number to project the next one. As an example use this number 2 8 4.Also how many plays do we invest in

Reply #1

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 01:54:40 GMT

The following list of VTRAC Boxed Combinations and their digit combinations.Thank to tntea for the listing.NO-MATCH VTRACS BOXED (10 COMBINATIONS)V-123= 012,017,062,067,512,517,562,567 V-124= 013,018,063,068,513,518,563,568V-125= 014,019,064,069,514,519,564,569V-134= 023,028,073,078,523,528,573,578V-135= 024,029,074,079,524,529,574,579V-145= 034,039,084,089,534,539,584,589V-234= 123,128,173,178,623,628,673,678V-235= 124,129,174,179,624,629,674,679V-245= 134,139,184,189,634,639,684,689... [ More ]

Pick 3 System - VTRAC Experiment

winsumloosesum — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 01:50:00 GMT

This idea uses VTRAC Boxed Combinations1. Their are a total of 35 Boxed VTRAC Combinations 10 No-Match e.g. 315 20 Doubles e.g. 224 5 Triples e.g. 3332. The VTRAC 1 occurs 15 times in the first psoition of all 35 Boxed VTRAC Combinations The VTRAC 5 occurs 15 times in the third position of all 35 Boxed VTRAC Combinations Just as VTRACS reduce the number of digits from 10 to 5 the following SHORT SUMS chart reduces the Short Sums 0 through 9 from 10 rows down to 5 rows.