an RNG series...

Reply #8

psykomo — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:30:35 GMT

NemeSys.............I would think the public would have noticed by now and maby????????????reduce the amount of tickets bought???????? At least when you go to VEGAS (they spend money, lots of money on customers)you don't expect to see a tent city to gamble under or maby an outdoor arena???????????under the stars. Vegas spends money to get you there and provide some......entertainment value at leastttttttttttttttttttttt.The states say, they want to cut the xxpence of TV and all the cost of t... [ More ]

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RJOh — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:26:14 GMT

If poorly-designed RNGs repeated the same numbers more than bouncing ball, that should make it easier for players to win more causing the States to lose money and notice. Apparently poorly designed RNGs work as good as bouncing balls as far a the States are concerned.

Reply #6

NemeSys — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 05:59:29 GMT

You've all hit the nail on the head. Either the lotteries in question are using a poorly-designed RNG (either a short period, or high sensitivity to seed values), or they're using seed values which give rise to sequences that fail the tests for randomness. You'd think they would have noticed by now...

Reply #5

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:29:14 GMT

I always knew RNG's were'nt RANDOM

Reply #4

pumpi76 — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:01:46 GMT

Tenaj What people don't know is that RNG are less random than the krystal ball lottery machine...I will say that the RNG is more like 84% random while the krystal ball lottery machine is more like 98%...So RNG is a good thing...michael brown

Reply #3

Tenaj — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:41:47 GMT

You guys have lost me with your theory, except the part about the seed generating the same sequence of numbers. There is a pattern I have noticed since RNG came on the scene. I keep daily records of 4 states and have been since 1994. When RNG are used for a state's drawing, repeats started happening, (some people call them travelers) over and over. I mean the same number will fall that night, the next night and then in another state the next day. The same way! I remember when 847 wouldn't s... [ More ]

Reply #2

NemeSys — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:59:26 GMT

With the latest generation of RNGs, seed size isn't the issue it once was. I doubt lotteries employing computerised draws are using the older algorithms, such as simple linear congruence generators. One example of an LGC is:xn+1 = (a xn + c) mod mwhere a = 16807, c = 0, m = 231 - 1, and the seed x0 = 667790This is a 32-bit generator; it is quite sensitive to the value x0; and its period is small enough to be exhausted in a few seconds on modern computers (including fast PCs). Obviously you would... [ More ]

Reply #1

RJOh — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:36:50 GMT

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/119577.htmI just want to say that i am free to post my idea, and if anybody doesn't like them well that's their problem...I don't care if the whole world disagree with me or doesn't like what i write..YOu don't have to read what i write...michael brownSounds like you're not really interested in anyone else's opinion.

an RNG series...

pumpi76 — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:38:33 GMT

Guys, i heard that if you use a RANdom Number generator with a smaller seed, it is possible to deduct after careful revision, the numbers drawn and thus find out what series the Random number generator is in and find out what number is next...I heard however that it can only be possible on RNG that have smaller seeds...Please let me know what your opinion...I will greatly appreciate it...michael brown