Wasted $300 on Steve Player Moneymap!

Reply #37

BobP — Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:14:14 GMT

Perfect chart, splits right into quarters. One of the quarters must contain the prize for each draw, you have a 1 in 4 chance of picking the correct quarter. Looks like a system to me. BobP

Reply #36

WIN D — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:05:27 GMT

Here's and old version of a Quarters Chart I did last year some may want to print. The 220 number Sums ChartMood:Now Playing: The #220 Sums Chart ...4 quarters All #1000 numbers boiled down to just #220 numbers. This includes 120(6 way numbers)+the 90 doubles (3 way numbers) the 10 Trips. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 900000100200300400500600700800901902901101201301401501601701802803803904902202302402502602703704704805805906903303403503604605605706706... [ More ]

Reply #35

pacattack05 — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:09:51 GMT

I've spent about $500.00 on his systems all together, and won $3000.00, by only purchasing $6.00, with the Prime-line.Do the math.

Reply #34

FUJITA — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:15:54 GMT

Pacattack you have proved my point. You was hoping it was the one like everyone else. Ole Steve slurped up your cash anyway. By far and I am not just saying this, of all his so called systems The Mastercash Redlist is his biggest piece of junk of all. You said you knew, but sent him the cash anyway. Lollipop, Lollipop, there goes a Lollipop. Mr. Steve as in Player how long does it take to get the center of Pacattack's bank account? Let's find out Uh one, Uh two, Uh three. CRUNCH!!!! Uh three... [ More ]

Reply #33

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:21:59 GMT

First of all its' not GOD's Will whether someone is going too win a Jackpot or not he doesn't sit up in Heaven deciding who he will let win the Lottery or not.We were given free will to do that our selves make our own decisions,choices and mistakes and if someone wants too win a JACKPOT then all they need to do is find a way to do so.Having said that let me address the Steve Player thing,I'm a BIG fan of his systems not all of them but a good bunch that actually have potential to HELP you win i... [ More ]

Reply #32

MonteSS — Sun, 09 Oct 2005 15:24:26 GMT

That's A LOT of dough to throw away on someone else's system, if it were that successful, I'd imagine Steve would be a multi-millionaire and not need to sell a bogus system for extra money.

Reply #31

JAZZY JASPER — Sun, 09 Oct 2005 07:34:26 GMT

Hmmn

Reply #30

BobP — Sun, 09 Oct 2005 06:51:00 GMT

Here's a free system as good as any Steve Player sells. Take all 1,000 Pick-3 combinations and break them into four equal sized groups. If you like they can be trending toward odd/low, odd/high, even/low, even/high. In other words, 1-2-3 has two odd numbers and three low so it's a odd/low.Chart the skips and hits of the four groups.Pick 1 group and play all 250 numbers straight for 25 cents each, you know where.(If not, visit http://www.lotto-logix.com/games.html and read the Lotto Dojo. ;-)When... [ More ]

Reply #29

pacattack05 — Sun, 09 Oct 2005 05:56:28 GMT

I agree with most of the above statement, yet disagree with the lack of just even, a little lee-way, reserved for a possibilty of a human to slightly augment time and space, and to benefit, like prediction honing. Your last line suggests to not even bother using the mind, and just hope it hits. Just a few days ago here in Florida, the 40 winning Jackpot tickets, in the Fantasy Five game yielded about $6,000.00 a piece, because the owners weren't aware of lottery 101, which states, never play all... [ More ]

Reply #28

mmisoofa — Sun, 09 Oct 2005 05:28:45 GMT

The bottom line is that there is no logical/scientific/mathematical way to replicate random number generations either manually or by automated systems. It is a pure chance or luck unless one is going to buy tickets for all the possible combinations of numbers which not economically viable. But in a free world many people are free to sell systems and many more are willing to buy those systems in the hope that they will win. But the chances of their winning are same as any other person who is usi... [ More ]

Reply #27

pacattack05 — Sun, 09 Oct 2005 04:38:41 GMT

If you're waiting for an absolute system that will spit out winning numbers everyday, without using you're own brain muscle, then I've got a bridge to sell you.If you actually said to yourself when you bought a system that promised you that, and believed the seller, than you're even more of a sucker.When I bought his Master Cash Red List, I knew there was a catch of some sort, and wanted to find out for myself. Not because I really thought it was going to make me filthy rich.Good Luck.... [ More ]

Reply #26

RJOh — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:29:56 GMT

People continue to buy systems and come to LP see if anyone else has bought the system and got it to work (meaning winning some money). The problem isn't that the system isn't working and picking numbers like it was designed to do, but that it's not picking winners which the confused customer thought it was designed to do. The person selling the system should had told them that they still have to be lucky enough to beat the odds to win something and that means playing more than a few lines at... [ More ]

Reply #25

FUJITA — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 11:43:13 GMT

Pacattack crap is crap, it can be packaged anyway you want to, it is crap. This guy has got filthy rich off of clever marketing of his systems. I have stated that Primeline 3 and maybe one other of his systems maybe descent, but even with it you are using your own knowledge of looking at trends in the prime lines to pick your numbers . It is not cut and dry. No hypocrisy here, I cleared stated I learned the hard way. I was one of his numerous suckers at one time. People keep taking up for Mr. P... [ More ]

Reply #24

powerplayer — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 10:56:02 GMT

Hello all,Very interesting postings. Very good advise.Has anyone tried the Arlene Meeks Lotto Magic System? Any help would be great!!ThanksPowerplayer

Reply #23

Brett — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:54:58 GMT

I feel like a dope in a way because I fell for it like a sucker. Like it was said earlier, I had to find out for myself. But I also agree that the Primeline is a good system. But it was still advertised in such a way to make the reader think it was going to make them lots of money over and over. Some people probably can make big money occasionally. But I'm done with SP thats for sure. I just wanted to believe that his system was as good as he said it was in the ad. I never thought this... [ More ]

Reply #22

pacattack05 — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 00:30:25 GMT

I know you mean well. But I have to say this.Your statement sounds like hypocracy to me. You obviously bought some of his systems out of curiosity, yet you don't want other people to find out for themselves. Let's be clear here. Everyone sees things differently, whether it's a system, or anything else in life. One person might interpret or add or take away something from a system, adding charts to modify it, having a learning curve diametrically opposed to someone else. The best lessons in life... [ More ]

Reply #21

FUJITA — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 23:10:04 GMT

It would be a good idea to run a search on all the forums here on Steve Player. My previous post would have saved a heap of you your hard earned $300.00. If you take nothing away from this post get this, if a system really works and I mean really works, it will not be up for sale and if it is the person is a complete moron. Please spare me the guilt trip,but we need to share stuff. Ideas yes, but a true working system are you kidding me. You wouldn't tell a strange your bank account number and p... [ More ]

Reply #20

orangeman — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 22:26:34 GMT

The reason why I like Prime Line so much is that it gives real time results. I have a copy of the Red List el al and have discovered that his lists are pretty useless.One tip on Prime Line you all might try. Chart day and night drawings side by side on one page and then chart them day-night-day-night in a single vertical line on another page and see what happens. Using Prime Line in this manner is quite instructive.You can also use the Prime Line theory to chart sums and bonus numbers such as... [ More ]

Reply #19

Debzo — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:01:10 GMT

I agree with you Rainmaker,what you said makes perfect sense.

Reply #18

Rainmaker2k — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:55:32 GMT

I agree with Jim695, I have been using quite a few of Steve Players systems I threw the Master Hit Redlist away three years ago because I could not throw away my money when I knew it did not work. I always learn his systems and monitor them for about six months to see how well they work. When I get comfortable with it then I know what to expect. I have been working with his Cash Overlap System for the last year and I'm just getting comfortable with using it. I had to add a few extra charts to he... [ More ]

Reply #17

RJOh — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:54:04 GMT

I agree people have a right to be paid for their intellectual property even if it's worthless. When someone ask for advice they are also seeking the intellect of some one even if it isn't being sold as property.People should ask themselves Is anyone really going to tell me how to make a fortune by buying lottery tickets whether I pay them of not? .

Reply #16

Rick G — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:08:32 GMT

Orangeman, don't feel bad...I get up on the wrong side of the bed every day and walk into the wall instead of the bathroom!Jim, Pacattack and Orangeman, good posts and they should help Brett out. It does take work and you gotta tinker with things to make it right.

Reply #15

jim695 — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:42:11 GMT

Orangeman makes some very good points, especially those concerning the protection of intellectual property. As a technical writer, I certainly agree that the original author deserves to be paid for his work, but I am guilty of sharing lottery systems with a few close friends in the past. Up until a few minutes ago, I didn't really feel that badly about it. Thanks for the guilt trip, Orangeman; my mother would be proud of you, as I have no defense. Without question, the best product Steve Player... [ More ]

Reply #14

orangeman — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:37:40 GMT

Probably did get up on the wrong side of the bed. Sorry I sounded so harsh.Orangeman

Reply #13

pacattack05 — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:58:53 GMT

I think Orangemen woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. LOL.The problem with Steve Player is that with pretty much all of his expensive systems, comes with a no return policy. He states that since it's a transfer of knowledge, it wouldn't be fair for him to accept refunds because the person can claim it didn't work, and lie about it, and still use the system. However, I think that's a bunch of hooey. If I can back test his system and show proof that it doesen't work, then I think he... [ More ]

Reply #12

Rick G — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:22:39 GMT

Orangeman, what you say is true and I agree 100% with you, but he wasn't asking about primeline and he wasn't seeking a free copy of it.But I don't know anything about Steve Player's systems and maybe moneymap and primeline are intertwined somehow. If so, forgive my lack of knowledge of someone's systems they are selling at exhorbitant prices.

Reply #11

Rick G — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:13:00 GMT

Sorry, copyright not copywrite. But you get my point.

Reply #10

orangeman — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:09:47 GMT

I gave Brett some good Prime Lime suggestions in the spirit of this website.However, I stand by my argument that intellectual property is still property and should be treated as such. All of us are chasing a small fortune for a tiny outlay of cash. Nothing wrong with that. But you have to realize that your education in pursuing that dream will take time, study and, yes, some money. Nothing is free. Even winning the lottery. Unless you are lucky, and I really don't believe in luck. That is... [ More ]

Reply #9

pacattack05 — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:07:56 GMT

Rick G., you beat me to the punch. I was about to write the same thing. No reason to jump down his throat. Just asking a question. GEEEEZ.

Reply #8

Rick G — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 16:39:25 GMT

In Brett's two posts I didn't see of any mention asking for a free system from anyone.He was asking a simple question, not begging for anything or attempting to steal copywrited material.There is no reason to jump all over him.Perhaps someone else on the forum has also purchased the moneymap system and could give him some pointers.Wasn't this the gist of Brett's posts and since they had both purchased the $300 system, the copywrite is a non-issue.What's this forum for if one can't ask a simple q... [ More ]

Reply #7

RJOh — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 16:20:13 GMT

Brett writes:Am I missing something with this Moneymap system? You answered your own question with the title of this thread.

Reply #6

orangeman — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 16:13:42 GMT

Great point, JAG331! There is another old saying: If it is such a good deal, why aren't you doing it yourself? Orangeman

Reply #5

JAG331 — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:34:44 GMT

There's an old saying here on LP: If a system made money, it wouldn't be for sale!Best of luck though

Reply #4

orangeman — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:29:53 GMT

I agree that most of Steve Player's systems are over-hyped and promise much more than they deliver. However. Out of every mangy haystack there is a golden needle and Prime Line still holds value if you are willing to study and work with it. I use it to track 20 different states and have found that lines will drift back into their zones with great regularity. Use HitWav34 to make a four key number wheel using Prime Line as your guide.There are three zones in Prime Line: 012/3456/789If the lin... [ More ]

Reply #3

pacattack05 — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:35:25 GMT

The only systems that are good from Steve are systems that have graphs. Then you can track the numbers, and see the real time activity.Any system he has that spits out numbers based on the previous night's numbers, are pretty much worthless.I have both kinds, believe me, I know.

Reply #2

Brett — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 05:23:14 GMT

I even did Progressive wagering with it.

Reply #1

Brett — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 05:17:38 GMT

When I backcheck it it does not hit often enough to make money with it. How often is it supposed to hit on average

Wasted $300 on Steve Player Moneymap!

Brett — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 05:15:18 GMT

I purchased Steve's Moneymap for the pick 3 because it sounded like his best system. I backchecked it against past lottery resulst and it looks like I just wasted my money. In the ad he says You may even decide to quit your day job and become a full time lottery player But How am I supposed to do that when the system is pretty much worthless. In order to make money with this system it would have to have a winner at least once a week without exception if your playin boxed. Others on... [ More ]