2 of 3 (8 Magic # system) - Sad Reality

Reply #13

WIN D — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:34:52 GMT

Back when they use to count wins and loses by hand they had a problem a couple of times with mine. They were quick to fix them then and I haven't had a problem since then. Now.....I trust.... but verify. P.S. Never play online casino games where the casino controls the results.

Reply #12

Thoth — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:06:31 GMT

Ahh gotchya - Anyone ever have any problems gettin paid there

Reply #11

truecritic — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 03:32:57 GMT

ThothWhen Bob stated: playing at the no name place.I do believe he means at online sites that pay $900for a $1 win.Amazing how much difference a decent payout makes.

Reply #10

Thoth — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:27:09 GMT

Im not sure what state you are playing in Bob but maybe I should pack up and go play there - especially if they are paying $75.00 on a .50 cent boxed bet and $450 on a .50 cent straight bet.Michigan pays $41 for .50 cent boxed bet and $250 for a .50 cent straight bet. Ohio also only pays $250 for a .50 cent straight bet and $41.50 on a boxed bet. Most states payout about the same on their Pick 3.So for your figures above we should have:9,723 x $8.00 = $77,784. or 6,942.00 x $8.00 = $55,536Figu... [ More ]

Reply #9

BobP — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:56:38 GMT

Let's say you went to http://www.lotto-logix.com/txthouse/lottodojo.html and got a free 2in8 set built around a hot number from the game . . . on second thought let's use your worst set shown here with 431 wins . . .012148024028359367567679Let's say you invested $1.00 per number .50/.50 straight/box and either played in all 9723 draws or tracked the draws and only played in the 6942 all different digit draws over the roughly 13 year period.Your cost to play would be . . .9,723 x $8.00 = $77,784... [ More ]

Reply #8

pacattack05 — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:57:43 GMT

Maybe they're not so magical afterall!!!!! There are no absolutes....there are no perpetual motion machines........and wrestling is indeed fake. LOL I coulda been a contendah......

Reply #7

Thoth — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:49:17 GMT

The overall percentage would stay the same. Sure, you may have days where they win in multiple states at the same time, but in the long run they will still statistacally perform the same. Their odds will never change.

Reply #6

Thoth — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:46:18 GMT

Bob,The test numbers are listed in my above posts, each individual 8# group represents a 2 out of 3 guarantee 100% of the time when a NoMatch is drawn and occasionally when a double is drawn - this has been checked and verified in both Ohio and Michigan. The actual hits or total wins for all 3 digits is also 100% accurate.The fact that when you look at your ticket and know that you are guaranteed 2 of 3 by playing those 8 boxed combos does not negate the fact that there are still 120 possible n... [ More ]

Reply #5

powerplayer — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 05:40:04 GMT

Very interesting..................I have a question for this % magic 8 #??What is the percentage of taking those #'s and playing them in all states? Does the % go up? I would think it would. I have done this before with 1 #. Like 12(wheeled the last digit) I played it day/night all states @ a .25. I ended up hitting on it 2 times. Both at night. Let me know Powerplayer

Reply #4

BobP — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:55:00 GMT

When you conduct such tests please supply the test set numbers as I have no idea whether your set is a true 2in8 or say a 90% 2in8 set. Maybe not all six boxed combinations are being checked for. I have no idea what might be going wrong, but again there are only 8 remaining digits and the winning digit has to be one of them so if that isn't 1in8 odds . . .As with the Birthday Paradox and gambler's faliacy what seems correct may not be.Sometimes the virtue of playing all the numbers in a limite... [ More ]

Reply #3

Thoth — Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:51:41 GMT

Performance of Magic 8# System for Michigan Daily 3 throughout 9,732 consecutive drawings.045123169178268279367389039059069124178278356478012148024028359367567679463 Total Hits4.76% 474 Total Hits4.87% 431 Total Hits4.43% The total of NoMatch numbers that were drawn within the 9732 games was 6942. IF everytime a NoMatch number is drawn and a Magic 8 group has a 1 in 8 chance of winning, then each group should win 1/8 of the total NoMatch games or (1 divided by 8 = 12.5%). This does not appear

Reply #2

Thoth — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:43:57 GMT

I still have to stand by my calculated odds, though it does SEEM like the odds should be 1 in 8 they simply cannot be. You get the same situation when looking at doubles and triples. Every time you see a double digit pair in a pick 3 drawing you might think that the last non-repeating digit has (or had) a 10% chance of creating a triple (55X 5X5 X55) but there s no way, not with 270 doubles and only 10 triples in the game. In 10,000 games you will see about 100 triples and 2700 doubles. If... [ More ]

Reply #1

BobP — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:47:40 GMT

There are odds for every possible event in the game. It cannot be denied that when you have a three different digit number on your ticket with two of the winning digits, there are only 8 other possible digits to complete the number. Therefore your odds of this ticket winning when all different digits are drawn is 1 in 8. The idea is to wait until all different digits are due. You don't have to play in every draw you know. I never expect a generic set of 2in8 to do well because it isn't conn... [ More ]

2 of 3 (8 Magic # system) - Sad Reality

Thoth — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:27:07 GMT

I have seen many groupings of Magic eight numbers that when played boxed are guaranteed to get you 2 of the 3 winning pick 3 number as long as the combo drawn is not a double or triple digit combination. I have also seen where people have stated that your odds of winning boxed with these combos are 1 in 10 or even 1 in 8 when a nomatch number is drawn.Here is the sad reality when playing the magic 8 # systems......True Odds:Yes - any of the magic 8 number sets will guarantee you 2 of 3 in b... [ More ]