The positive cash flow system

Reply #201

cps10 — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:16:24 GMT

PP - I am following your lead on this one. I like how you have the 4 # that have been hitting all over. If this continues, that progression I have should accelerate profits in the coming year. Just let me know when you change so I can keep track of them.

Reply #200

powerplayer — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 12:12:13 GMT

I agree with you paurths....Well I'm doing my pick 3 program also but, want to do the pick 4 also right now since I see something that could be a cycle.Thank you for the input on how to do the pick 4. I have some pick 4 done. I think all states for July and Auguest right now.I still have to go back and fill in all the other months and recent ones but, in do time.Since I have the pick 3 chart done already like you explain where it counts as you add...I'm thinking mybe I don't have to do this for... [ More ]

Reply #199

paurths — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:45:53 GMT

Hi PP,indeed, i do not have all states.That's why i listed the states these stats apply to.It does not matter if you have all the states or not, as long as you don't use the stats on a different group than the one they originally came from.It is not that difficult to do the Pick4. (pick3 is mighty easy on this part)All you need is one Sub procedure (if used in the same module then make it private, otherwise make it public) to which you send the original number to. The sub procedure will then tra... [ More ]

Reply #198

powerplayer — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:40:12 GMT

paurths,Your missing some states in your list:What happened to mid-day Cali?? Was it not a top 20?I have a chart list of every combination listed out and believe me #'s repeat in multiple states ever month you just have to follow them.All #'s are actually straight hits. Just depends on which combination your going with.So 509 hit 21 times but, 905 might have hit 25 times or something like that as a example.You have to do out every # to get a perfect count.I'm going to do this with the play 4 whi... [ More ]

Reply #197

paurths — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:33:53 GMT

Amount of times the same numbers hit, the past year, in these states:Midday: GA, IL, MI, JN, NY, OH, PA, SC, VAEve: AZ, CA, DE, FL, GA, IL, MI, NJ, NY, OH, PA, SC, TN, TX, WCtop 20, straight (boxed i did not put a count on)NbrHits50921134188601725717271178321788916467163771600015333157041539215888150681504715490150071595415

Reply #196

powerplayer — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 05:49:37 GMT

cps10,This system is similiar to mine except I can give you #'s that will keep on hitting. I have never baught a stave player system but, I said this on a post before .....read his catalog!! Don't buy anything just read it.There is a load of information in the catalog that tells you how he does his systems and then all you do is apply your own system features to improve on it.He does do some pretty good back tracking but, not good enough to get a hit every night like I'm doing or many other peo... [ More ]

Reply #195

hypersoniq — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 04:40:49 GMT

soon as I have more time to properly explain it, I will roll it out in the Lottery Systems thread and put a copy of the worked-out (backtested) PA pick 3 history (excel) on my website.

Reply #194

cps10 — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 03:47:01 GMT

hypersoniq - that is interesting...I guess I would need to backtest. So, given the example, you would look in the past year to see which third number hits most with the vertical, and play that

Reply #193

hypersoniq — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 00:10:17 GMT

cps10:no, it changes the number every night... too time consuming to keep track of by hand, hence the need for excel. there are no persistent numbers, it puts no credence in travelling numbers, and it doesn't even take box hits into consideration... one shot one combo for one night only...it's NOT an end-all system by any means, it just backtests better than anything else I have seen yet... INCLUDING skip tracking, v-trac exact mirror, +1,+1,+1 transforms etc...it is a long-term strategy where y... [ More ]

Reply #192

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:34:38 GMT

CPS10And those things should be enough for now.Good luck.

Reply #191

cps10 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:28:28 GMT

LANTERN - thanks for the note. I have been working on Vtracs, overdue digits and overdue root sums...that is keeping me quite busy

Reply #190

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:22:15 GMT

I ? It isn't me who uses it, but Hypersoniq. He says that it should in the long run work, some years there are not hits whatsoever, not at all, a few others many hits.If you want to make some money quick, that might not be the way to go.I suggest experimentation with many other approaches also, his method gives ideas for other things to also try.

Reply #189

GrassHopper35 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:39:55 GMT

For a boxed hit why not just wheel 8 numbers? It would be 56 numbers and for .50 a number it would cost $28. A boxed hit pays $41.50 in Ohio for a profit of $13.50. Not a big win but still something. You must be pretty sure a double is not due though.

Reply #188

cps10 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:29:07 GMT

LANTERN, et al:That is very interesting. Do you find that this approach works fairly often

Reply #187

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:19:14 GMT

No. play it for the next draw only, the workout is made anew for every new draw.

Reply #186

cps10 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:19:08 GMT

That sounds interesting...so for instance, for SC for the past couple of night draws, we are looking at:12/25: 1-2-812/26: 5-8-8So, I would take the 1-5-x and search back results for a year to find out which number (0-9) came up the most with this combination and play it until it wins? Wouldn't another approach be to play all 10 combinations until you come with a win and then start over

Reply #185

pacattack05 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:54:43 GMT

That's exactly what the Master Cash Red List, from Steve Player looks for. It looks at the entire p-3 game's history in every state, combining them all together and spits out 14 sets of numbers for the next drawing based on the last two night's drawings.It's a pattern oriented search for the next hit.

Reply #184

hypersoniq — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:39:04 GMT

using your example3-3-47-4-8Vertical pair for position 1 = 3-7P2 = 3-4P3 = 4-8I will search position one only for 3-7-x (x=0-9)etc...

Reply #183

cps10 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:25:33 GMT

so for instance, if tonight the draw was 748, and last night was 334, then you would use 34x and look to see what number is in with that the most, and play it

Reply #182

hypersoniq — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:21:21 GMT

the pick is based on the last draw and the draw before it, it is a positional system, so the first number drawn one night and the first number drawn the next night form a vertical pair , I call the first one a precursor and the second one a draw. next stepis to go back in history and see how many times each of the 10 digits followed that vertical pair in that position.think of it as prequalified announcers

Reply #181

cps10 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:55:24 GMT

Yeah, I mean it does seem like pie-in-the-sky. The funny thing is that I have bought many of these systems just for research. And many of them do the same thing...look at 7 days, if there is a digit missing, then play all 36 single box combinations until it hits...good strategy, just doesn't work 100% of the time. It needs to be a little more complicated than that...lol

Reply #180

fast eddie — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:53:05 GMT

Our systems are not a con, scam or a joke. These are real winning workable systems for the entire number game. Without them you aredrifting with no direction and the odds are beating you. Only with these systems can you win constantly Why? Because systems are a natural part of the universe. DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM? DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM? DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE CIRCULATORY SYSTEM? DO YOU BELIEVE IN NATURES SYSTEM? THEN WHY NOT BELIEVE IN THE NUMBER SYSTEMS? THINK ABO... [ More ]

Reply #179

cps10 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:49:02 GMT

No idea, but if they get as many hits as they say, then a logical money management program could make these winners. However, there are a lot of winning numbers on this site...who knows

Reply #178

fast eddie — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:42:39 GMT

http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/onetowon/id12.htmlFor you system players? any of you know anything about these guys

Reply #177

cps10 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:34:56 GMT

hypersoniq,Are you just taking one combination that is overdue and playing it straight until it comes in, or what is the rationale for the one combination

Reply #176

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:05:41 GMT

HypersoniqThat is a very good idea, (the open source) as people can help (maybe) to make it better.But so far the winnings are very very good, not bad at all.

Reply #175

hypersoniq — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:54:46 GMT

one combo will not win very often, but costs are kept down... I am trying to develop a CHEAP system... $2 a day total cost to play pick3 AND pick4... people who play a lot of numbers can simply add 'em to the list, others, like myself, who are a bit gunshy about dropping big bets... well, we rack up alot of losing tickets, but the wins make it all worthwhile...With this strategy tho, backtesting is vital ,so you can see what kind of gaps there are.on a system such as this, you could play until a... [ More ]

Reply #174

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:49:34 GMT

It does not look as if I will post numbers on the predition board as my systems, will give me many more than just 10 numbers to play.But I might in the future post all states numbers instead.

Reply #173

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:44:07 GMT

HypersoniqI could not win with only 1 combo.I don't yet know how many combos I will have to play and how many wins I will get, that is for a few more months yet maybe, all that I know for sure is that there will be a good enough profit often enough.

Reply #172

RJOh — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:43:55 GMT

LANTERN, I noticed in your prediction statistic you had only posted 10 picks this year, I'm looking forward to you posting more so I can see how well your filtering is working.

Reply #171

pacattack05 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:40:15 GMT

You speak in tongues.

Reply #170

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:34:42 GMT

And I can say that I can win for 1 state a lot more often than just 1 to 10% of the time, a lot more often, things will get very much better as I get better with straight pick 3 filters, then winning as often won't be as important as they will be straight wins and no any numbers that I would play would not be posted only numbers for draws in which i would not play, so if I post for a draw here or anywhere else, I will not play those numbers, I will still post my best possible numbers, but I will... [ More ]

Reply #169

pacattack05 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:31:32 GMT

I truly meant to type in 10 percent rjoh. Heinekens, sometimes get in my way and then I have to bitch slap them into order. LOL

Reply #168

hypersoniq — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:27:29 GMT

I just backtested my most successful system to date for pick3 and pick4BOTH beat the system in cost-to-play vs. winnings, but...in wins vs. number of games...pick 3 hit percent is 0.627466%pick 4 hit percent is 0.149314%this is playing just 1 number combo for $1 straight (no boxes)how is 10% possible? you must be sacrificing in the amount spent per draw area...

Reply #167

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:24:07 GMT

Whichever pick 3 numbers I might play in the future, you can be sure that they will not be posted here at LP, but I can still sometimes post pick 3 numbers that I myself won't play.But anyhow, I can tell you that even now, not ready as I am yet, I can still make numbers for Texas that will make a profit in the long run, I know this.These would be numbers that I would not post anywhere if I would play them and or if I want to be sure of them.So you would have to take what I say on my say so only,... [ More ]

Reply #166

RJOh — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:16:41 GMT

Pac,I play the jackpot games Megamillions and PowerBall, if I hit the jackpot or even second prize once in a life time, I would be ahead, so winning 10% of the time doesn't mean much. I revised my response when you changed from 80% to 10%. Do you want to revise your response to 1

Reply #165

pacattack05 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:06:09 GMT

If you're consistently winning 10 percent of the time, well then do the math. There's nothing to really explain. Just parlay the winnings.I'm sorry, I forgot we live in a drive thru-fast food, mega-size it Meal world.....LOLLike I 've said, this is long term.

Reply #164

RJOh — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:57:05 GMT

Pac,I stand corrected, post your facts for everyone to see.

Reply #163

Rip Snorter — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:56:29 GMT

RJOH:I appreciate what you're saying. I even agree it is a fundamental truth.However, the issue at casinos, lottery games, friendly poker games with the guys on Saturday night, craps in an alley behind a dime-a-dance joint, isn't whether everyone can win. All the time, or ever.The issue, RJOH, is whether SOME people can win enough more than they lose to make it worth doing. And whether, supposing some can do so, it's something that can be learned, taught, or discovered in the form of a system... [ More ]

Reply #162

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:56:04 GMT

PacAbout the filters, study my filters posts, mostly my last 6 very good filters tutorials. at the Lottery Systems forum.But better yet, study all of my filters posts, all of them, also study the Vtracks from TNTEA.Good luck.

Reply #161

pacattack05 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:47:52 GMT

I have facts if you want . .. ... Take a ten percent profit margin gain and parlay. Very feasable.

Reply #160

RJOh — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:32:49 GMT

Cashman87 writes: .....I've been gambling professionally for over 5 years, and that is what I do for a living. I go to atlantic city, and foxwoods every weekend, and do the same damage, or better, on the craps table, that I have been doing every weekend for 5 years. I place wagers on sports every day, that makes me a monthly profit, month after month, that I have been doing for 3 years. I go to vegas every other month, and double, some times, triple my money, playing roulette, which I have b... [ More ]

Reply #159

pacattack05 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:29:43 GMT

thanx Lantern and Fast Eddie. I'm hiding my money away for a stint concerning California.....San Diego. I love Cali....LOL Hopefully next year is my goal. Something is drawing me near, I've got to find out why.Mostly paper drawings for now. Hairbrained schemes, and the such.I used to live in Redondo Beach, CA. Since, I fell in love with cali.I can use all the filters I can get my hands on....LOLFast Eddie.....Working on the numbers, but always remember, they come to me. Revelations can't be forc... [ More ]

Reply #158

fast eddie — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:16:55 GMT

Hi pacattack05, How's that pick three system of yours working so far this month

Reply #157

fast eddie — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:11:57 GMT

Cashman87, Thanks for the mention. Welcome to Lottery post.

Reply #156

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:11:18 GMT

By the way, about my last post, it was at work and there are no computers there at all.Yes, Pac, I can reduce numbers, I can with Texas for sure, about other states maybe also, but that is not as sure, as I am not as familiar with other states, i would have to study those other past draws first.I used to work only on boxed numbers, but now soon I will be very good with straight combos also, I already am, but not as good as I will be in a few more months.

Reply #155

LANTERN — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:58:52 GMT

Well, I have been working on my pick 3 filters straight system, yesterday somebody asked me what I could do with only 1 past draw, I think that it was a Texas past draw from the 20 of Jan of some year, maybe 2003 and just by hand without a computer or anything else, I chose filter patterns that would have reduced the 1000 pick 3 straight numbers to fewer than 400, he then checked the next past draw, the one on the 21st and yes the filters worked, none of the few filters that reduced the numbers

Reply #154

pacattack05 — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:55:28 GMT

Thanx Rip....I was gonna send you a pm on how funny your blog on Post xmas blues was, with that woman who wanted to have an affair with you. I was in tears laughing. Your response was polite and classic at the same time. Love your blogs.As for number crunching goes, I'm on the dRAWING BOARD WITH THIS ONE. Gotta narrow some of them numbers, ,,,,,Good concept, but maybe lantern can filter some of those 700 numbers...LOL

Reply #153

Rip Snorter — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:43:38 GMT

Thanks for some great posts here Cashman 87 and CPS 10. Thank you, also for starting a great thread Pac. Good on you also Lantern.There are some things that don't get said often enough on LP. For that matter, it would be impossible to say them too often.Thanks for saying them this once and anytime in the future you want to say them again.Lottery post is about finding ways to win money against the lotteries. About believing such ways can be found and exploited.Lottery Post wouldn't exist, wou... [ More ]

Reply #152

LANTERN — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:32:19 GMT

Well, What does RJOH has to say about this ?And all the others who are waiting for a winning system, while right now a lot of people are winning all the time with their own systems, not because they can't win, that does not mean that very many others can't also.Those people who say that you can't win, will never ever win, while a lot of other people are winning every or almost every day.Yes, I agree, you all who say that you can't win, can't win and never will, while many others will win very... [ More ]

Reply #151

cps10 — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:52:28 GMT

Cashman87 - you hit it right on the head. I am also one of those that goes to the casinos (not nearly as you unfortunately), and armed with the right strategy, can beat them up pretty well. I wont sit here and tell you that I win every single time I go, but I win much more than I lose. Hell, even on a casino-tilted game such as Caribbean Stud I hit a straight flush on a huge jackpot that made my year back in '03. If you go in with the right strategy and right attitude you can win consistently in... [ More ]

Reply #150

pacattack05 — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:04:30 GMT

Cashman87, thanx. What a sight for sore eyes!! It's refreshing to see a crafty understanding from someone else's review on this, unlike any other. Especially when you mentioned in the last line that no qualifier will be a loss . Now that's interesting.I already went back to the drawing board on this one, and found some amazing turn abouts.I bought a horse racing system, unlike any other. It promised a 10 percent increment, leading to a comfortable life style, but would take about 5 or 6 years t... [ More ]

Reply #149

Cashman87 — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:22:07 GMT

Well, I'd like to say first, MERRY XMAS to everyone. I know I'm late, but, I just registered late. :) I really like this website, and, I REALLY like pacattack's strategy for the pick3. I will talk about that later in the post, anyway, I just wanted to say something, to fasteddie, and the other doubters out there.... Everywhere you go, you will constantly, and constantly, have experts telling you.... No system works in the long run .... In gambling, the house edge is always in 'their' fav... [ More ]

Reply #148

Cross139 — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 04:08:45 GMT

Heres another system ....Follow the system and play for the even odds leading number.Say the Pick 3 played even on the first number 3 days straight. ( 2XX, 8XX, 6XX)Chances of another even number leading is much less than an odd number.So i'll play any of the odd number to lead. ( 3XX,5XX,9XX,1XX)But i'll only play the 4 hot leading odd candidates.For the last 2 digits i'll play 8 leading candidates in each column.(4 hot 4 cold) .So your playing 256 numbers. No.The only filters i use is past dr... [ More ]

Reply #147

LANTERN — Sun, 18 Dec 2005 05:37:05 GMT

PacHi!Another way would be to get rid of or filter out 2 digits by pick 3 position:8 x 8 x 8 = 512 straight combos and maybe it could be done for every single draw or at least more often anyway.

Reply #146

pacattack05 — Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:06:04 GMT

Is it really that cold in Antwerp?Pop some Popcorn....The residual heat of the microven will increase the room temperature by a factor of 1.2See? I told you so...na na na na na na

Reply #145

paurths — Sun, 18 Dec 2005 01:18:38 GMT

DE: 101Cool, over [enter amount] draws these are the hottest and the coldest digit... bbrrr

Reply #144

pacattack05 — Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:41:06 GMT

Yes.....not suitable for all states.And then you have to figure out what states are suitable at what time and date.I'd rather be stuck in a basement with an insurance salesman

Reply #143

paurths — Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:35:50 GMT

Don't worry, these will not even be close... i should have checked DE first.It seems it gets more than 4 in row more often than 4... Go figure, i'll add one more number: XXX

Reply #142

pacattack05 — Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:33:03 GMT

According to the rules......Yes. I'm crossing my thoughts and fingers.LOL

Reply #141

paurths — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:49:59 GMT

Changed my mind about that last filter.I think it will be the other way around, not in ascending order this time.45 numbersN1 N2 N30 3 10 9 71 0 31 3 11 8 31 9 11 9 31 9 51 9 71 9 92 0 32 0 92 2 32 2 92 3 02 3 12 6 32 7 32 8 32 9 02 9 12 9 32 9 42 9 52 9 62 9 83 0 13 2 03 2 13 2 63 2 73 2 83 2 93 3 13 3 73 7 13 7 33 7 53 7 73 8 13 9 13 9 74 2 94 3 74 9 1

Reply #140

paurths — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:42:18 GMT

DE evening had 5, 8, 8 and 7 for first digit.Will a low be the first now?1 4 91 5 91 6 91 7 91 9 92 2 32 2 92 3 62 3 72 3 82 3 92 4 92 5 92 6 92 8 93 3 73 4 73 5 73 6 73 7 73 7 9last filter i used was Win D's once in 6 draws the numbers are in ascending order ... it's been 9 draws in DE, so let's see what happens...

Reply #139

paurths — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:09:08 GMT

480, makes 5 in a rowah wel, perhaps tonight...

Reply #138

cps10 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:41:08 GMT

I wonder if playing just 500 is the best solution. That way if you lose one, you don't have to double up in order to catch back up.

Reply #137

pacattack05 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:59:30 GMT

That's what I mean also. It would take too long to make a profit.It would be worse than waiting for 3 in a row.

Reply #136

cps10 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:49:29 GMT

What I meant was 5 in a row for 0-4, or 5 in a row for 5-9. Sending file now.

Reply #135

pacattack05 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:14:20 GMT

At that rate I would have to wait 3 years to see five in a row.I was hard pressed to see 3 in a row twice within one year. Imagine 5 in a row.

Reply #134

cps10 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:59:26 GMT

I will send it over to you shortly. One other thing - maybe when this comes up twice, then start betting, and then it comes up a third time - perhaps doubling your bet until youmake up that loss? Maybe that's chasing. Now, going back to the original system you proposed at the outset of this thread, maybe if you saw that pattern FIVE times in a row, it might work out? That one is cheaper than this 8/9 system we are researching.

Reply #133

pacattack05 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:48:25 GMT

Yeah...thanx....just give me the link.

Reply #132

cps10 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:29:51 GMT

pac - well, i can't take the credit for all of this particular work. CARBOB did most of it. But I have a zipped file with all states all draws, so you can take a look and see if it's worth it for you. Just let me know if that's sufficient.

Reply #131

pacattack05 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:27:16 GMT

Holy Moly!!! How the heck did you fly them kites?I needs to get updatamized on dis computer thang.Yes I would love them, to answer your question. This is why I love this LP. So many people contribute their hard work so easily. I want to thank you and powerplayer, and all those who even just took the time to look at this thread, and didn't even respond.So much LP, so little time.Thanx cps........I would like to see that report.

Reply #130

cps10 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:18:45 GMT

pac - i have data for all states if you would like to take a look and see how it works in those.

Reply #129

pacattack05 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:59:32 GMT

I need a loan. A big one. Thanx for being a volunteer.I appreciate your grant, just write it off as a business expense.

Reply #128

cps10 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:55:08 GMT

pac - would this be something that you could do in all states at one time? That might make it a little more profitable anyway. Perhaps 2,000 x 30 or so, so $60k or thereabouts. Not to mention the states that have two draws daily. Or am I grasping at straws?*thinking I am...hahaha

Reply #127

dman2005 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:38:18 GMT

Laughs!!!...

Reply #126

pacattack05 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:34:35 GMT

Mountains in Florida? Right....The highest point in Florida is the city dump....LOLI won that house from the prize inside a cracker jack box.

Reply #125

paurths — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:26:32 GMT

Hi Laverne,well, i'm an avid dramatically missed it again -player also... I don't expect these numbers to come anywhere close to the actual number. I think i'll play them 'tho , just to avoid the drama of missing again... i believe it will be a low first digit again, 3 maybe.

Reply #124

paurths — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:21:34 GMT

i count 4 548 534 922 434 raindrops in there... hhmmm, what number to pick from it....btw, nice little house...didn't know you had mountains in FL.Think i'll add 05 to my worst prediction ever. (still wondering if i should play them numbers at the offs't'ore...

Reply #123

pacattack05 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:09:47 GMT

Don't know about TN, but it was suppose to rain here today. It tried very hard but nothing yet. A cool front coming through.

Reply #122

LAVERNE MALONEY — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:06:15 GMT

Paurths, I am anxiously awaiting the outcome of your selections.WOW, you have narrowed down the plays DRAMATICALLY. I could not see playing 100 or more #'s at a time.

Reply #121

paurths — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:59:56 GMT

Tell me if its raining in FL (or better yet, in TN!!!), pacattack!Just might add or drop another digit then! LOL

Reply #120

paurths — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:52:47 GMT

and it also had several runs of 5 lows and 5 highs....missed it yesterday in SC (never exclude digits from last draw!!!! what a lesson, i would have nailed it with less than 30 numbers....

Reply #119

pacattack05 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:37:35 GMT

TNs got 4 lows in the past 4 night's drawing. Cross your toes, your eyes, and your T's. LOL

Reply #118

paurths — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:10:32 GMT

Will Tennesse be up for it tonight? 526,534,543,546,562,564,625,634,643,645,652,654,734,743

Reply #117

pacattack05 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:32:22 GMT

Here's what I saw for the last year for Florida:Dec. 10 2004 thru Jan 9 2004: 3 in a row....2 in a row.....2 in a rowJan. 10 2005 thru feb. 9 2005: No qualifiers.Feb 10 2005 thru march 8 2005: No qualifiers.Mar. 9 2005 thru Apr. 9 2005: 3 in a row.Apr. 10 2005 thru May. 9 2005: 2 in a row.May 10 2005 thru June 9 2005: No qualifiers.Jun. 10 2005 thru Jul. 2005: No qualifiers.Jul. 10 2005 thru Aug 9 2005: 2 in a row.Aug 10 2005 thru Sept. 9 2005: No qualifiers.Sept 10 2005 thru Oct. 2005: No quali... [ More ]

Reply #116

tntea — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:05:20 GMT

Wow... Wow...

Reply #115

pacattack05 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:01:59 GMT

No, I wait for 800-999 to show for a couple of days and then play 000-799 the next.

Reply #114

tntea — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:22:06 GMT

Are you suggesting to play all combo from 800 --999 when they have been out for a few days?Are you applying the vtracs method to the quest.. or basically going by the draws

Reply #113

pacattack05 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:07:29 GMT

I'm waiting for powerplayer to get home from work. Somehow he can whip up alot of info in minutes. It would take me three days to look up all that info.I will however get started on my state in Florida to get an idea.

Reply #112

Tenaj — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:06:10 GMT

I don't think anybody claimed to predict every state, every draw, every day. I thought the argument was whether you had a system that was profitable for you and if you do, that beats the system.

Reply #111

cps10 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:59:39 GMT

pac - very interesting scenario and experiment. It's almost like the overdue factor that many of us play. If you waited, say for 2 draws in which 800-999 hit in a row, then you could load the boat up on the 3rd day. I would be interested to see how these numbers work out. Check out all states on that and see how it does

Reply #110

tntea — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:56:03 GMT

I do not see how one can win one state every day.. I win daily , only because I play different states with the vtracs.. So I can count on a hit each draw.. I have missed hits by not playing certain states because not too sure of vtracs and they were requiring more than two strings.. (which is $4 to $6) investment.. (that is a limit for me) .. If I go over that.. sometimes after the hit.. the profit is only $20 for the day.. so it is not worth it for me... Sometimes after the hit.. if I play m... [ More ]

Reply #109

pacattack05 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:42:43 GMT

Here's exactly what I'm talking about. This is the last 30 days in the Florida cash-3. The numbers in red are numbers from 800 thru 999. Those are the numbers to look for and wait for them to run for three days in a row, then play 000 thru 799.I would play 000 thru 799, only on the days that are qualifiers. Playing $10.00 a number for the total amount of $8000.00 ( When I built a bankroll over time to come up with that kinda cash). Netting me $1000.00. I can make a living off of this in no time.... [ More ]

Reply #108

truecritic — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:34:07 GMT

For the sake of argument, OK - say you win everytime you play, for the rest of your life - you have then beat a negative expectation game. But you can't, by definition change the fact that they have the edge.On the other hand, the jackpot games can and do become positive expectation games when the jackpot exceeds the the odds for that game. BUT, it does not make it any easier to win!Unless you buy all of the possible combinations

Reply #107

pacattack05 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:15:48 GMT

Supposing I sat back and didn't play those 800 numbers for 3 or 4 days, and just watched. Suppose Those 800 numbers didn't hit those 3 or 4 days in a row ( even with an 80 percent edge ), wouldn't it make sense to play on the fifth or so day and plop down $8000.00 on 800 sets of numbers with full confidence, that since it was out so long that I could easily net $1000.00?Not a bad pay day for one day.Then sit back and do the same as before. Even if was out just two days, I would probably bet on t... [ More ]

Reply #106

truecritic — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:14:17 GMT

The odds are better online with the 900:1 payout. But like you said, you have an 80% chance. As long as you don't have an even chance or better, they have the edge.The game people have an edge when they pay 900:1 or anything less than $1000It is a fair game when they pay 1000:1You have the edge when they pay 1001:1 or anything over $1000

Reply #105

pacattack05 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:05:50 GMT

What if I play 800 sets every time, doesn't that mean I have an 80 percent chance of winning $900.00 whenever I play that way? As opposed to winning $500.00, and losing every single time by $300.00?Even if I lose with the 900.00, Covering 800 numbers seems to me that it kinda gives me a little extra edge, don't you think? Gettting it right 8 out of 10 times.

Reply #104

dman2005 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:00:14 GMT

CD,That roulette comment was to funnny....LMAOOOOOOO....

Reply #103

dman2005 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:58:28 GMT

Pac,The lottery has the edge....1,000 combos....online..if you bet say 1.00 per all combos..$1,000.00..you would get a win for sure.....let's say all of the bets were straight...well you would get paid $900.00...You still loose $100.00 all becasue of the lottery edge....sure you can tilt the odds in your favor by playing more numbers sets...which also increases the cost of playing.... but the odds are the odds....lmao...

Reply #102

CalifDude — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:58:26 GMT

Pacattack said:I agree with everything you say, except for the part about generalizing the edge. Can someone out there please explain to me, how the house has an edge, when the payout, only specifically pertaning to this, and only this scenario, when the payout is 900 to 1?Very simple. The TRUE odds are 1000 to 1.