Pick 4 system

Reply #23

calabs — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:23:30 GMT

That's what I though Raven. Sorry for the confusion

Reply #22

Raven62 — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:18:34 GMT

If the 4 numbers drawn in the Lottery Drawing are included in the 8 selected (23456789) for the Wheel, then 1 combination (70) in the wheel will match those 4 numbers straight and/or boxed (most likely boxed).

Reply #21

calabs — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:02:34 GMT

cps10 - that's what I thought. I must have misread Raven's post. I think he was saying it was only one hit, the guarantee of 4 threw me off.

LottoPro has some very good merits. The database is great. Data analysis is also very helpful for the Cash 5 and Pick 6 games. The wheels are nice for P3 nd P4, but I've found that Gail Howard's wheels for Cash 5 to be much better.

Reply #20

cps10 — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:50:15 GMT

calabs

How is that LottoPro? Also, you only get 1 win out of the 70 combos because even if 4 of your numbers fall, then there is only one combo with that specific grouping of 4 numbers.

Pls provide f/b on LottoPro...I was thinking of getting it.

Reply #19

calabs — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:27:46 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on March 23, 2006 Ininuga - Lotto Wheels, by Uros Boltin

Numbers: 8

Pick: 4

Guarantee: 4

Condition: 4

Combinations: 70

2345 2346 2347 2348 2349

2356 2357 2358 2359 2367

2368 2369 2378 2379 2389

2456 2457 2458 2459 2467

2468 2469 2478 2479 2489

2567 2568 2569 2578 2579

2589 2678 2679 2689 2789

3456 3457 3458 3459 3467

3468 3469 3478 3479 3489

3567 3568 3569 3578 3579

3589 3678 3679 3689 3789

4567 4568 4569 4578 4579

4589 4678 4679 4689 478... [ More ]

Reply #18

bob27 — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:53:09 GMT

I am very dissapointed.Yesterday,i tried all reccomanded and lucky numbers,this may come up this week,and also special numbers for Il.I spend like 100$,playing stright,box,combo,both for pick 3 and 4,and i hit none.VEry VERy sad.

Reply #17

Raven62 — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:20:52 GMT

Ininuga - Lotto Wheels, by Uros Boltin

Numbers: 8

Pick: 3

Guarantee: 3

Condition: 3

Combinations: 56

234 235 236 237 238

239 245 246 247 248

249 256 257 258 259

267 268 269 278 279

289 345 346 347 348

349 356 357 358 359

367 368 369 378 379

389 456 457 458 459

467 468 469 478 479

489 567 568 569 578

579 589 678 679 689

789

Reply #16

Raven62 — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:08:28 GMT

Ininuga - Lotto Wheels, by Uros Boltin

Numbers: 8

Pick: 4

Guarantee: 4

Condition: 4

Combinations: 70

2345 2346 2347 2348 2349

2356 2357 2358 2359 2367

2368 2369 2378 2379 2389

2456 2457 2458 2459 2467

2468 2469 2478 2479 2489

2567 2568 2569 2578 2579

2589 2678 2679 2689 2789

3456 3457 3458 3459 3467

3468 3469 3478 3479 3489

3567 3568 3569 3578 3579

3589 3678 3679 3689 3789

4567 4568 4569 4578 4579

4589 4678 4679 4689 4789

5678 5679 5689 5789 6789

Reply #15

Raven62 — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:55:25 GMT

7 number pick-4 wheel (35)

- No Doubles

- No Triples

- No Quads

I will use letters (ABCDEFG) below and you must replace them with your

own 7 numbers (1-2-3-4-5-6-7). If the winning 4 numbers drawn are

within the 7 numbers used, you will have 4 numbers (boxed), but

sometimes you get lucky and will pull a straight!

ABCD ABCE ABCF ABCG ABDE

ABDF ABDG ABEF ABEG ABFG

ACDE ACDF ACDG ACEF ACEG

ACFG ADEF ADEG ADFG AEFG

BCDE BCDF BCDG BCEF BCEG

BCFG BDEF BDEG BDFG BEFG

CDE... [ More ]

Reply #14

Raven62 — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:53:18 GMT

8 number pick-4 wheel (70)

- No Doubles

- No Triples

- No Quads

I will use letters (ABCDEFGH) below and you must replace them with your

own 8 numbers (1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8). If the winning 4 numbers drawn are

within the 8 numbers used, you will have 4 numbers (boxed), but

sometimes you get lucky and will pull a straight!

ABCD ABCE ABCF ABCG ABCH

ABDE ABDF ABDG ABDH ABEF

ABEG ABEH ABFG ABFH ABGH

ACDE ACDF ACDG ACDH ACEF

ACEG ACEH ACFG ACFH ACGH

ADEF ADEG ADEH ADFG ADFH

Reply #13

cps10 — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:14:52 GMT

Bob - play online and use progressive wagering...that is, if you feel comfortable with it. I will be glad to help in any way I can.

Reply #12

bob27 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:47:12 GMT

Thx for replies.I live in Chicago,and illinois payouts are terrible.This is what i got from Il lottery website: PICK 4

TYPE OF WAGER EXAMPLEODDSWIN

WIN

(IN 10,000)(50 play)($1 play)

STRAIGHT:12341$2,500$5,000

Match 4 numbers in exact order

4-WAY BOX:11124$600$1,200

Match 4 numbers, of which three are the same, in any order

6-WAY BOX:11226$400$800

Match 4 numbers in any order, consisting of two pairs of identical numbers, in any order

Reply #11

cps10 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:59:43 GMT

Mass

That is if you played them straight, not boxed. Playing them boxed is brutal. You would need to play $5,040 to win that amount, assuming you got a straight - that is, playing at the Mass Lottery terminals, not online.

Reply #10

four4me — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:52:24 GMT

Take that big list Raven62 just posted and then go back to the begining of the year and using a high lighter cross of all the picks that have been drawn using the remainder of the picks and your states last weeks worth of history look for posible picks that might come out in the next few days.

Reply #9

masslottery — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:42:10 GMT

Wednesday03/22/06 0-3-2-4$4586$642$55$6$191$107$107

if you play box here you get half of ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ but for a dollar $$$$$$$$ you win about $5633 that if you hit it ex if you hit it any order you get the last 3 191 107 107

Reply #8

Raven62 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:27:54 GMT

What does it cost for a boxed bet where you play? What is the payout for a boxed win where you play

Reply #7

cps10 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:15:31 GMT

Bob - if the number comes up as single, then yes, you would be guaranteed a winner. However, that's using all 10 digits. if you want to use 8, then you should see my post.

If it comes up single, then you would win $375 putting up $210 at the online site. but if you lose, then you have to double up.

Reply #6

bob27 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:09:22 GMT

So,your suggesting,if i decide to play 24way boxed numbers you post here,and be guarantee winner,then i need to spend 210$,i for example numbers 3692 come up

Reply #5

Raven62 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:54:48 GMT

Singles (24-way) 210 29.3%

0123 0124 0125 0126 0127 0128 0129 0134 0135 0136 0137 0138 0139 0145

0146 0147 0148 0149 0156 0157 0158 0159 0167 0168 0169 0178 0179 0189

0234 0235 0236 0237 0238 0239 0245 0246 0247 0248 0249 0256 0257 0258

0259 0267 0268 0269 0278 0279 0289 0345 0346 0347 0348 0349 0356 0357

0358 0359 0367 0368 0369 0378 0379 0389 0456 0457 0458 0459 0467 0468

0469 0478 0479 0489 0567 0568 0569 0578 0579 0589 0678 0679 0689 0789

1234 1235 1236 1237 1238 1239 1245 1246 1247 1... [ More ]

Reply #4

bob27 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:48:54 GMT

iam not getting this.There is more combination in 12 way then in 24 way boxed combinations?Do you have website,where i can use all these 24 way boxed numbers,and write them down

Reply #3

cps10 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:47:04 GMT

So a $52.50 investment if you think that you will have singles...for a $93.75 return.

Reply #2

Raven62 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:44:22 GMT

There are 10 possible 1 way boxed combinations.

There are 90 possible 4 way boxed combinations.

There are 45 possible 6 way boxed combinations.

There are 360 possible 12 way boxed combinations.

There are 210 possible 24 way boxed combinations.

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715

$105.00

Reply #1

cps10 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:34:40 GMT

Depends on what kind of strategy you would like to use. I would use a progressive betting strategy. And using the following numbers, this should get you where you want to go, using SINGLE boxes only (you inquired about 8 numbers being used and that would be the 8 digit wheel - I have found considerable success with this if you have the bankroll, and this is using an online site that allows you to make $0.25 bets that pay out $93.75 per hit):

7-Digit Wheel(each unit is $8.75 or 35 combos

Pick 4 system

bob27 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:22:52 GMT

HI all.I have interesting question.Hope someone will know this.I would like to know,how much money ,you need to spend on pick 4,to be guarantee box winner,without using double number,in one set of numbers(11,22,).Is there a software,which will calcualte this for me?And also even,use only 8 numbers out of 10,for example 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 and 9.I know that,if you want to hit stright guarantee,you need to spend 10,000$,but how about box? thank you