LP members and lottery beliefs

Reply #102

Rip Snorter — Sun, 23 Jul 2006 01:32:02 GMT

You hang in there, chum.

Jack

Reply #101

LottoVantage — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:26:09 GMT

I agree, Rick G! Just a little understanding and compassion for others is a huge boost up when needed.

Thanks again to everyone for your kind understanding and comments.

Best to you,

LottoVantage

Reply #100

emilyg — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:23:22 GMT

rick - i've always liked you very much.

Reply #99

Rick G — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:49:42 GMT

There's more than one way to be a "winner" in life. One of them is to climb the wall and turn around and help the next guy up. Winning a lottery pales in comparison.

Kudos to you guys.

Reply #98

emilyg — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 03:00:57 GMT

good wishes to you tom.

Reply #97

Tom9041 — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:19:00 GMT

Hi you guys. How interesting. I'm a survivor of cancer (about 14yrs ago), and a survivor of a horrific car crash as well (I got badly smashed up, my two boys were injured), I also lost my wife in the same accident. Thus I cannot work, playing around with lotto systems has become my hobby, following what you guys have to say really has kept me going.( LOL) Also I would like to take this opportunity to wish you guys all the best for the future, may you all have long enjoyable liv... [ More ]

Reply #96

bellyache — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:16:58 GMT

Glad to hear that you are a cancer survivor Emily and LottoVantage I will be keeping you in my prayers. I hope to see you on LP for many more years to come.

Reply #95

Rip Snorter — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 04:09:50 GMT

i don't have ya blocked! never would.

Nor I, you LottoMike. You the man!

Thanks for the comment.

Jack

Reply #94

LOTTOMIKE — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:11:18 GMT

way to go on beating the cancer emily!

lotto vantage i'm rooting for you.always look forward to your posts....

hey rip snorter(jack) your my buddy.i don't have ya blocked! never would. who would block you.......

Reply #93

emilyg — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:25:09 GMT

feeling is very mutual

Reply #92

justxploring — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:09:58 GMT

i'm a cancer survivor. never give up!!!

You go girl! I for one am happy you're here. It's not a puuuurrfect world, but people like you and other LP members make those fur balls bearable.

Reply #91

emilyg — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:28:18 GMT

i'm a cancer survivor. never give up

Reply #90

LottoVantage — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:26:23 GMT

Once again, thanks for the many words of incouragement and concern from my friends here at LP. Yes, the team at The James are very capable and dedicated in their efforts at finding cures and treatment for the dreaded cancer we all fear. Many cures and successful containment treatments are being discovered through therapy study groups such as the one I am involved with at The James. There have been study cases in my group who have lived a fairly normal life for as long as ten years. If I can sque... [ More ]

Reply #89

Todd — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:17:18 GMT

It is always a joy to read anything written by either Jack or RJOh. Happy Father's day to you both.

LottoVantage, I am very sorry to hear about your illness. It sounds like you are in good hands with your medical team.

Reply #88

Rip Snorter — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:07:40 GMT

You could do a pre-emptive strike.

Got me chuckling there csfb.

I didn't know I din't have you blocked until you mentioned it. To be honest, half the time I don't notice who posts.... I just read what's said unless I'm familiar with the person, which I can't say I am with you.

I have a lot of people blocked.... can't say myself who they all are. I've generally done it when I got the notion there was negativity I didn't care to deal with, or that I just didn't need to know whatever the... [ More ]

Reply #87

psykomo — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:26:01 GMT

No way......Ahhhh........Jackpot........can be<<<<

BEATEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

other than .......................... LUCK' my friend$$$$$$$$$$

but, a lottttttta GREY_MATTER--------and THOUGHT.......... MAY HELP???????

LOL

PSYKOMO

Reply #86

RJOh — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:41:32 GMT

You're in good hands at the James Center. I've only been in the hospital over night once in my life and it was at the James Center to remove a cancerous growth from my leg eight years ago just before I retired . Wishing you the best

RJ

Reply #85

LottoVantage — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:28:06 GMT

Thank you all for your kind words and prayers. My illness is terminal but is in temporary remission at this time thanks to the great medical team and their therapy study group at The James Cancer Center in Columbus, Ohio. There is no cure at this time for my illness, but their working on it day and night at The James.

Wishing all of you the best,

LottoVantage

Reply #84

emilyg — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:17:57 GMT

lv - sorry to hear that. hang in there buddy.

Reply #83

RJOh — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:05:17 GMT

I don't have the time or interest in setting up and maintaining a business website for my system. I know how good it is, and I know that there is nothing else for pick 5 comparable to it..............I offered our chief here an opportunity to view it a while back and he has been too busy with other things to spend any time perusing it.

LottoVantage:

Todd is a business person, once you've scored a few jackpots, he and other business types will seek you out. If your system works as you cla... [ More ]

Reply #82

GASMETERGUY — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 02:41:18 GMT

Who was it who said Luck favors the prepared mind? The speaker is a famous person.

Reply #81

csfb — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 02:38:17 GMT

Is LottoVantage ill? I am so sorry to hear that. Hope you get well very soon, LottoV. I'll keep you in my prayers.

I haven't blocked you yet, Rip Snorter. Perhaps pretty soon - if I notice that you do not read my posts.

Reply #80

Rip Snorter — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:42:58 GMT

LottoVantage:

I'm sorry to hear you're ill. Sorrier yet to hear the sawbones say it's terminal.

I'd like you to stick around this reality a while longer. I figure I probably got here first and I don't like having people try to crowd ahead of me in line at the exit.

I like you, LottoVantage. I like your attitude, your vitality, your courage and persistence, and the self-belief you exhude. I like your style.

There's little enough of each of those traits on the entire planet, and LP... [ More ]

Reply #79

bellyache — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:42:52 GMT

Lol. You may have a better chance of getting struck by lightning then winning a large jackpot, but try to avoid getting hit

Reply #78

justxploring — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:07:37 GMT

Thanks for pointing this out, Bellyache. It's nice to know there's always hope. Gosh, if this storm doesn't let up I'll never get to the lottery terminal on time. Guess I'll have to walk to 7-11 and risk getting struck by lightning. They say there's a greater chance of that than winning a jackpot and, where I live, that's probably very true!

(my hairdo after getting zapped on the way to the store

Reply #77

LottoVantage — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:52:00 GMT

Great comment, Jack! The way I feel is I am keeping up to date on Ohio Rolling Cash 5 with my system for my own sake, so sharing it isn't a big deal for me. Yes, making a few bucks in exchange for a lot of years of hard work and determination in a nut shell would be convenient. I am retired and unfortunately have a terminal illness. I don't really know how much time I have left. So far, the medical team I have is keeping things in containment and I am biding my time successfully for now. I don't... [ More ]

Reply #76

Rip Snorter — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:54:49 GMT

LottoVantage:

I think it's probably just a matter of timing, location, and method of presentation. I never suspected when I began this thread that anyone would put forth a system.

I just was curious how the people here viewed things these days. It was mainly a result of Spy making a comment on another thread. He/she observed that the posts on LP would leave a person thinking LP members do not WANT anyone to find a way of beating the lotteries.

If I'd known you planned to post a sys... [ More ]

Reply #75

bellyache — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:12:34 GMT

Justxploring you are correct. There are a few people on LP who have won more then $100,000 dollars. They can actually be found if a search is done and there is a member who used to post who won a big jackpot. There might even be more, they just choose not to come forward.

Reply #74

LottoVantage — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:11:30 GMT

I wish you well, RJOH! We'll just have to see what happens, won't we

Reply #73

RJOh — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:28:11 GMT

Anytime the Ohio RC5 (5/39) jackpot is over $300K is a good time to play. I'm putting $10 on it too.

Reply #72

LottoVantage — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:21:06 GMT

What I mean by beat'n the odd's is to contrive a system that alerts you when the time is favorable for wagering bets, and then delivers the correct numbers to wager the very next drawing for at least a 2nd tier prize, or even possibly, the jackpot prize. I dissagree that it is mostly luck , but will agree that a little luck and a solid statistical based system is all that is necessary to git er' done .

Today I am following this notion by posting numbers for the Ohio Rolling Cash 5 drawi... [ More ]

Reply #71

JimmySand9 — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:52:44 GMT

I assume by beat you mean winning a jackpot, and my vote is no. Systems can help you get a few more matches, but not many more. It's still mostly luck. My best advice is to go with what has given you the best results. If you win more with picking your own numbers, do that. If quick picks have been luckier for you, do that. It's pretty simple.

Reply #70

LottoVantage — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:47:22 GMT

Your probably right Jack, some of these folks on here wouldn't believe it if they were handed the winning ticket. And, if I won a big one, it wouldn't be such a big deal to me as to rub the noses of anyone here at LP. I've tried to show a new way of acquiring winning numbers by following a proven easy system, but it isn't difficult enough as to generate any interest, only a slap at everything else that is and isn't.

I wish you the best in all your endeavors also,

LottoVantage... [ More ]

Reply #69

justxploring — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:28:46 GMT

That was the most anyone won on LP

We don't know that for sure. Not everyone is eager to share that information online. Maybe I'm a dreamer or just plain stupid, but I'd like to believe in the possibility.

Reply #68

Rip Snorter — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:16:16 GMT

LottoVantage:

You and I agree someone's going to figure out how to win jackpot games. Of the people who posted on this thread, you stand a 100 percent better chance of doing it than any of those who don't believe it can be done.

It mightn't be you, mightn't be anyone on LP. But if it gets done it will be done by someone who believes he/she can do it.

As for all those who aren't going to do it because they can't believe they can, they'll probably never know they were wrong. Which will... [ More ]

Reply #67

fxsterling — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:17:48 GMT

luck

Reply #66

rundown99 — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:23:54 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on June 10, 2006 LottoVantage,

As a premium member, if you had reduced those 61 lines to 50 and posted them on the prediction board, you might be proof that someone had a system that could pick 5of5 more than once and the 5of5 win for $100,000 would have made you the top predictor. As far as I know, no one has ever posted a 5of5 for any game. Good luck to you.

A few years ago, here on Lottery Post, there was a LP post member (EZ Money) who won $100,000 pl... [ More ]

Reply #65

qutgnt — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:21:55 GMT

Games that pay back at best 60% CANNOT be beat in long run with out luck. Bottom line.

Reply #64

RJOh — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:31:35 GMT

The big difference between creating a lottery beating system and creating a heavier-than-air craft that flies is that the wright's experiments could be reproduced. Flight could be achieved again and again. It could now be not only fully explained by mathematics and physics, but performance can be predicted with high levels of accuracy. If flying today yielded the same attempt-to-success ratio of even the best current lottery system, nobody would fly! Each leap forward built on the others. We don... [ More ]

Reply #63

Rip Snorter — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 03:55:38 GMT

You may agree with me or you may not. As long as we can agree that you and I disagree I see no problems.

Clair:

Disagreeing with you seems more trouble than I can muster where you're concerned. Let's just pretend we agree. At least I will. You feel free to disagree all you wish.

I'll feel free to not bother. A lot of things in this life just ain't worth the energy required.

Jack

Reply #62

pacattack05 — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:42:23 GMT

A perfect system wouldn't need a system.

It would just be.

Reply #61

LckyLary — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:02:39 GMT

A perfect system would only require ONE ticket (or the same number played multiple times). I didn't win often until I made a program. Some drawings i.e. computerized ones are very hard to systemize and others fall into faint patterns that can be teased out with certain algorithms.

Reply #60

Clairvoyance — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:18:03 GMT

Jack,

I feel no need to block anyone at LP as everyone has the right to express his or her thoughts regardless! You and I may clash at times, and thus is because we are both strong people, strong minded and strong willed! Just for your records, when you talk of a persons understanding of a particular subject, in my opinion, it coincides with their intelligence of that particular subject.

Now speaking of science and the lottery. I do not feel science has anything to do with

Reply #59

justxploring — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:13:18 GMT

Reply #58

hypersoniq — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:55:56 GMT

fair enough

It's impossible, until someone makes it possible.

I still buy a ticket for each draw... I just waste less time trying to search for order in the chaos.

All lottery systems put forth thus far, from pay systems to ones posted free, have coincidence at their core. it is upon this realization that you can move to different areas of number generation, really get outside the box.

Take fortune cookies, for an example. Have fortune cookie picks won jackpots? Absolutely! Has is h... [ More ]

Reply #57

LottoVantage — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:45:34 GMT

When I reach in and pluck out an orange, I don't just start eating it. I peel off the skin first to get to the sweet stuff. I don't feel like I'm lucky, or, unlucky. I advocate eliminating as many numbers as possible to get to the good ones. After I find all the good one's I can, I eliminate numbers further through every possible method available to arrive at an affordable amount. When I am on target and numbers come through for me as they often have, then it's my skill and hard work that gets m... [ More ]

Reply #56

justxploring — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:18:06 GMT

I think it's all luck too, but who's to say? The only reason I chose luck is that so many people who never played before win the lottery, and many of them buy quickpicks. If you're talking about the pick 3 or 4 games, maybe a little skill is involved using a lottery system. I'd even stretch that to include Fantasy 5, although most tickets that win are QPs. I check the press releases regularly, and that's what I see on the FL web site. However, there are too many winning combinations to even... [ More ]

Reply #55

LottoVantage — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:34:15 GMT

Your comments are very much appreciated, Rip! As you wisely advised, This thread's intended to allow folks to tell what they believe, and if they'd like, to tell why they believe it , is precisely what has been happening here. I have, without any stress whatsoever, been advocating my beliefs with solid support of some of my backup records.

When any mortal has been at this as many years as I have, and can provide proof of results as I did on page 5 of this thread, I can strongly support what... [ More ]

Reply #54

Rip Snorter — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:46:23 GMT

LottoVantage:

You and I happen to disagree with the majority of the posters on this thread. But you and I don't have any investment in what they believe. There's no reason what they believe should cause us any distress, nor cause us to feel the need to argue against their beliefs.

This thread's intended to allow folks to tell what they believe, and if they'd like, to tell why they believe it.

It's not intended to try to change those beliefs.

With a bit of luck (hee hee) you and I w... [ More ]

Reply #53

Rip Snorter — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:41:11 GMT

Sound impossible? it IS!

Anyone claiming to have a real system should be able to pass one of the above tests for it... and we should DEMAND this of anyone selling anything lottery-related, be it software or pen and paper... ANYTHING LESS is just coincidence.

Sonic:

I agree completely with the second piece of your conclusion. Impossible's too big and too presumptuous a word to allow me to agree with the first part.

It's impossible for heavier than air craft to fly. If you don't be... [ More ]

Reply #52

hypersoniq — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:27:32 GMT

I voted No, But some systems can help.

In my opinion (<<< note the disclaimer) , Nothing yet demonstrated works beyond coincidence.

Some may point to the prediction boards and claim sucess, I still say coincidence... for NOBODY can, at will put up one number for any one draw consistently and have it match... and we will most likely NEVER see that take place. I say systems can help a little because since I have all but lost interest I have been on my 1QP kick for quite some time and the... [ More ]

Reply #51

LottoVantage — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:01:28 GMT

When you're able to accurately predict, because of number trend analysis, that the sum range is going to fall between 114 118 total sum, and because of the ability to predict upper/lower tier trend analysis, and the winning numbers follow these predicted trends, I'd say you're whole hill of beans is total hogwash, and luck needs to get a job and find out what hard work is.

Reply #50

DoubleDown — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 15:30:44 GMT

MADDOG10 said : nice stats, but without the LUCK of the lottery machine spitting out the winning combination everything else really does'nt amount to a Whole hill of beans .

DD

Reply #49

LottoVantage — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 15:22:21 GMT

I dissagree! When the directing elements are favorable, and you wheel and wager your numbers, and the numbers you wagered contain the drawn numbers, it's skill and hard work that pays off, not luck

Reply #48

MADDOG10 — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 15:07:11 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by LottoVantage on June 11, 2006 This graph contains ALL of the 4 5 match results possible, (minus the 2 3 results), within my system since Ohio Rolling Cash 5 began. The +'s were predicted, the 0's were not predicted. At the bottom of the graph are two groups of numbers, (19 Lower Tier, 20 Upper Tier), available for wheeling. Those two groups of numbers are correct statistically positioned per the StatPath 5 Lotto System. Luck has no bearing on the correlation... [ More ]

Reply #47

LottoVantage — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:59:02 GMT

This graph contains ALL of the 4 5 match results possible, (minus the 2 3 results), within my system since Ohio Rolling Cash 5 began. The +'s were predicted, the 0's were not predicted. At the bottom of the graph are two groups of numbers, (19 Lower Tier, 20 Upper Tier), available for wheeling. Those two groups of numbers are correct statistically positioned per the StatPath 5 Lotto System. Luck has no bearing on the correlation of these numbers. Luck has no bearing on the normal freque... [ More ]

Reply #46

Rip Snorter — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:40:18 GMT

I like your style, aye'.

I'm going to have to re-read your post a few times to try and find something to disagree with.

Jack

Reply #45

ayenowitall — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:30:59 GMT

Rip,

I suppose that those of us who do anything more than buying a single Quick Pick must believe that there is something more than luck to beating the lotteries. That's not to say that even one Quick Pick selection is enitirely a matter of luck, but that's about the most effortless way of actually playing the lotteries.

I've tried all kinds of things including statistical analyses, numerology, astrology, dreams, number patterns, exotic systems, complex formulas, and even methods of buying... [ More ]

Reply #44

Tenaj — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:21:59 GMT

By knowing the patterns that never change. The faithful ones you can take to the bank.

Reply #43

Rip Snorter — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:11:48 GMT

LottoVantage:

I disagree with it also.

I happen to believe luck only plays a part in winning lottos only because there aren't any people who understand things well enough to make certain they win all of them without depending on luck.

There mightn't be any such people out there at all. But I believe there will be in the future.

The best piece of luck I ever had involved a long-shot pony running a long last with my win/place/show money until the number 2 horse stumbled and rolled... [ More ]

Reply #42

LottoVantage — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:34:24 GMT

Thanks for the reply Rip.

As I asserted in a previous post, The combination of statistics, patterns, and luck is a definite winner. One element missing in the poll is timing. Watching a statistical pattern develop and waiting for certain elements to conclude is the combination, along with a bit of luck, that will definitely create winning bets .

I've never dismissed luck as being a necessary component in any endeavor, including betting money on a certain group of numbers. However, whe... [ More ]

Reply #41

Rip Snorter — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:44:33 GMT

Congrats on the $35 LottoVantage.

That's $35 more than I won with 5 ov 5.

$35 is luck, any way you cut it.

5 of 5 ain't luck when it doesn't win a penny.

Best to you,

Jack

Reply #40

Rip Snorter — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:38:37 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Clairvoyance on June 10, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by Rip Snorter on June 9, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by Clairvoyance on June 8, 2006 Do you believe the lotteries can be beaten by any method other than luck?

Yes, by something they call mystical, but isn't

What is that supposed to mean?

If something is mystical then it is mystical so how could it not be? Just asking your logic on that one.

Thanks

Clair:

The key wor... [ More ]

Reply #39

LottoVantage — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:40:03 GMT

RJOH - I have posted some on the prediction board, but don't post on a regular basis. Yes, it would have been great if I had posted these for sure!

DoubleDown - I filtered the numbers down to 8 tickets and filtered out the Jackpot numbers. I won $35.00 with the 8 tickets I played.

By the way, Rip Snorter had a 5 number prediction on the board just a short time ago. I believe it was Indiana, but I'm not sure.

Thanks for the comments...

LottoVantage

Reply #38

DoubleDown — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:25:19 GMT

Good job on the predictions.

What did you win ? $35.00 ?

What about the 5 of 5 ?

I still say it's luck more than skill, but what do I know

Reply #37

RJOh — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:25:42 GMT

LottoVantage,

As a premium member, if you had reduced those 61 lines to 50 and posted them on the prediction board, you might be proof that someone had a system that could pick 5of5 more than once and the 5of5 win for $100,000 would have made you the top predictor. As far as I know, no one has ever posted a 5of5 for any game. Good luck to you.

Reply #36

LottoVantage — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:25:31 GMT

Systems don't work, and it's all luck??? The page below is an archived record of the drawing for Ohio Rolling Cash 5 conducted on March 16, 2006. Granted, jackpot numbers don't appear as often as 2nd and 3rd tier prizes, but nevertheless, it does happen. It's up to the individual to take advantage of the opportunity when it occurs. In this case I filtered this set of numbers further, using sum filtering, down to 8 sets of numbers and won $35.00. These numbers were produced using my personal syst... [ More ]

Reply #35

RJOh — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:21:01 GMT

Even if one hit using a system, it would probably be more luck than the system unless he could do it again. If a winner really believed his system had been responsible for his win, he would probably be more interested in trying to win again than sharing the news. If it hit twice or more then he would definitely keep his mouth shut 'cause not everybody is like Gail Howard and Steve Player who want to share their winning systems.

Reply #34

DoubleDown — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:30:08 GMT

They would just need to show the ticket and prove that it's not a QP, but from a system: that's all...

No worries--- it ain't happened yet.........and it won't.

Trying to make a point that it is not a system, but 100% luck.

Right place, right time, fate, whatever.......

Reply #33

Clairvoyance — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:51:35 GMT

Jack,

Sorry my friend but the question is in narrative form! And seeing you as being the Author, is why I asked for your logic of the narrative!

When written in such form, Jack, it can confuse and manipulate any reader's impression, not just my own.

You worded the question as something They call mystical. Well who is they? Scientists, farmers, construction workers, or plumbers?

You could of stopped at the explanation of your logic behind the question. You did n... [ More ]

Reply #32

RJOh — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:20:56 GMT

If anyone believed they had actually matched 5+0 or better in a jackpot game using their system, only stupidity would motivate them to prove it by showing the winning ticket and explaining their system to us at LP. A winning ticket would be their reward and the only validation they would need is a check from the lottery.

Reply #31

DoubleDown — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:09:13 GMT

There is absolutely nothing we can do to accurately predict the outcome of a 5 plus one jackpot game.

If anyone says they can, then prove it by showing us the winning ticket from your system...

Out of millions and millions of tickets sold, a winning set of numbers emerges and regardless of what anyone prognosticates, the other guy wins.

The winner ?

He ran into the gas n go and bought a pack of smokes or something and had a couple of spare bucks and asked for a quick pick and there

Reply #30

GASMETERGUY — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:02:33 GMT

Luck is involved, to be sure.

Yet knowing filters (patterns might be a better word) surely helps.

When all the figuring, calculating, manipulating, charting, and patterning has been done and the time has arrived to determine what numbers you will play and which ones you will leave behind, luck is riding in the back seat (of someone else's car).

Good luck to all.

Reply #29

lucky146 — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:53:55 GMT

I'd like to think there is a metasphysical way to crack lottery. However I believe one still needs luck/blessings of heaven to win.

Reply #28

BobP — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:24:37 GMT

I think hard work, study and wheeling can get you into the 5 numbers range, but it takes luck to add the 6th correct number to that line.

I often find wheels hit a prize one tier above their guarantee. A 2if wheel often returns a 3# prize. A 3if wheel often captures an 4# prize. A 4# wheel has a fair chance of a 5# or multiple 4# prizes. And of course a high percentage 5# guaranteed wheel for Pick-6 has that magic moment with luck because the biggest leap over odds is the jump from a 5... [ More ]

Reply #27

Rip Snorter — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 04:26:22 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Clairvoyance on June 8, 2006 Do you believe the lotteries can be beaten by any method other than luck?

Yes, by something they call mystical, but isn't

What is that supposed to mean?

If something is mystical then it is mystical so how could it not be? Just asking your logic on that one.

Thanks

Clair:

The key word is 'call' mystical.

Remote viewing, for instance, might be something they call mystical, but isn't, since it... [ More ]

Reply #26

emilyg — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 03:33:13 GMT

mostly agree with you on pick 3. i work hard on it - luck is 2

Reply #25

Uff Da! — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 03:27:39 GMT

I play the large jackpot games almost entirely. I think that in those luck is what really determines the winner, with only a small amount of if it is your time thrown in. On such games, I think one might be able to minimize the chance that one has to split the pot in the event that one does win by avoiding certain number combinations, but that wouldn't help overcome the odds against winning.

With pick 3 and pick 4, though, I do believe that statistics, studying patterns and systems can he... [ More ]

Reply #24

Clairvoyance — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 03:10:27 GMT

Do you believe the lotteries can be beaten by any method other than luck?

Yes, by something they call mystical, but isn't

What is that supposed to mean?

If something is mystical then it is mystical so how could it not be? Just asking your logic on that one.

Thanks

Reply #23

JAP69 — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 03:04:48 GMT

I have looked at created and used many systems in the lottery.

They all seem to work when you are mentally tuned in to the cycle of the numbers.

Your intuition is a part of picking the numbers.

How many times has a player said to themself. [ I knew it ]

Follow up on your intuition. It is either right or wrong.

Reply #22

Rip Snorter — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 02:51:23 GMT

Heck, Four4me. There's probably nothing in the Universe a lot of people wouldn't say phooey about.

Fact is, most of us have probably thought a lot of things about the way the numbers work, except those who merely think it's entirely luck, and who don't have to think any more about it.

I've either learned an awfully lot about numbers over the last year or so (if there's something to be learned), or I haven't and am merely deluding myself in thinking I have. Probably it could go either way... [ More ]

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four4me — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 02:37:19 GMT

Things i have thought about lottery numbers, to numerous to mention. Is there rhyme or reason. Where lottery numbers are concerned So why is it when you play a certain set of numbers they draw every other number but the ones you chose. Why did they only draw 4 of your 5 how come every time a person plays 20 out of 25 pick 4 numbers they draw the one number they didn't play or you miss it by one digit. etc etc.

Luck it's luck.

A friend of mine told me a long time ago if your looking for th... [ More ]

Reply #20

Coin Toss — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 01:21:59 GMT

Luck. The playslips you fill out have the odds listed on the back of them and those odds are the number of combinations possible. If they could be beat consistently the games simply wouldn't be offered to be played.

There's a lot of knowledgable people on this board, if it was anything beyond luck someone would have already hit a jackpot.

Thousands of people a day track numbers, look for trends, cold numbers, hot numbers, due numbers, and what have you - and a clerk asks a person w... [ More ]

Reply #19

Rip Snorter — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 00:00:52 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by tntea on June 8, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by sfilippo on June 8, 2006 My vote was 'yes, by hard work and study.'

After being around here for a few months, I can see that players either have it or they don't, and the ones that have it keep on getting hits and those same players are constantly seeking and searching and working out new things all the time.

I've been able to do better than break-even, partly because of luck in the beginning, but more lately by... [ More ]

Reply #18

Rick G — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:48:49 GMT

I voted statistics and luck, but luck is 99%; statistics, timing, your time to win, hard work and study, gut feeling, random numbers, etc., all can contribute to a win.

Random numbers that are generated by the user get a bad rap. Sometimes we subconsiously do all that we can to self-destruct. If you let an RNG or a state-generated quick pick make the decision for you, you are allowing luck to be totally on your side and eliminating the self-destruction that we reap on ourselves with our own... [ More ]

Reply #17

tntea — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:03:56 GMT

I love my time to win..

Reply #16

tntea — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:02:25 GMT

working together will get us all there..

Working against each other will leave some far behind..

Reply #15

pacattack05 — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:53:00 GMT

I firmly believe that even when we think we're using logic, not just for the lottery, but any endeavor, there is something else always present at the scene, maybe a little, maybe alot, but the bottom line is that something from the pit of our stomachs give us that gut feeling which atleast in my case overrides everything else.

Reply #14

dnroth — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:43:26 GMT

I study patterns.

I work hard and study hard.

It's also a combination of statistics and luck.

Then again, I haven't won anything...yet.

Reply #13

four4me — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:30:22 GMT

it could take a combination of many things or even the 1.00 qpick = luck

Reply #12

spy153 — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:39:10 GMT

whoops.... meant to say destiny.

Reply #11

spy153 — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:37:21 GMT

I agree with Lottomike. But most of all, I believe if it is your time to win... you will win no matter how it comes about. (luck? desiny

Reply #10

LOTTOMIKE — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:19:52 GMT

hard work,study,statistics and luck are the magic ingridients....

Reply #9

Just6ntlc — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:14:59 GMT

My vote is on luck. I try to select numbers on my own, but it won't work.

Reply #8

sfilippo — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:03:28 GMT

My vote was 'yes, by hard work and study.'

After being around here for a few months, I can see that players either have it or they don't, and the ones that have it keep on getting hits and those same players are constantly seeking and searching and working out new things all the time.

I've been able to do better than break-even, partly because of luck in the beginning, but more lately by recognizing other players skills and working with them and offering what I can.

Reply #7

CARBOB — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:43:32 GMT

That's my way of thinking, also.

Carbob

Reply #6

nomoneybabe — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:26:42 GMT

Hello Rip Snoter! I would like to vote for "Yes, by a combination of statistics and luck." but I have been written down cool combinations of drawing numbers but the result come out with a very weird one. So I vote 'all luck

Reply #5

LottoVantage — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:00:15 GMT

I voted Yes by studying patterns , but could also have voted Yes, by a combination of statistics and luck . The combination of statistics, patterns, and luck is a definite winner. One element missing in the poll is timing. Watching a statistical pattern develope and waiting for certain elements to conclude is the combination, along with a bit of luck, that will definitely create winning bets.

Reply #4

bellyache — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:59:35 GMT

I think they can, but I mainly think it is luck and picking the right numbers.

Reply #3

csfb — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:58:43 GMT

You got me there. Deep pockets for lotto, I don't have.