skip and hit stats for evaluation

Reply #45

LANTERN — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:40:30 GMT

It does not look as if Paurths has any more time for updates to his Freewheelers, but there are only 3 more filters that I would put in them if I was him, at least for the near future, The XYZ filter, the Hot-Cold filter and the High-Low+Even-Odd compound filter.

Not that there are not any more filters beside those 3, but some of the others would need the Freewheelers to have their own draws' databases.

Reply #44

LANTERN — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:30:14 GMT

I have closed my Internet account.

I am leaving the Lottery Post and the Internet.

For some unknown time.

Closing my Internet account was the only way that I could force myself to leave the Internet.

I have become too addicted to the Internet and to the Lottery Post.

My last day here will be sometime soon maybe on the 3rd or the 4th of July.

I need to get away from the Internet for a while.

I don't know for how long, at least for a few months, maybe much longer.

It depend... [ More ]

Reply #43

sysp34 — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:46:31 GMT

well the tables sheet contains some patterns for 000 to 999 numbers, so every times you entry pick 3 as long you have copied formula you will get pattern in even,odd,low,high, etc.

well there was alot of tables lol, my filterout step is

single/double/triple FD

eo/lh

ldr/rts

if there is alot of numbers? then look at longest skip (you still guessing the right pattern or numbers) i use the most hit (break the expected)

good luck

sysp34

Reply #42

LANTERN — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:41:28 GMT

sysp34

I have to go now.

Talk to you again tomorrow or whenever.

Good luck and have a nice day.

More tomorrow sometime.

Reply #41

LANTERN — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:35:31 GMT

To start with the tables sheet is the most important thing that I need, besides the results sheet of course. The ABC sheet is also important, but even the tables and sthe stats sheets have too much stuff too much info and too many filters. It slows down it and it is a little confussing having so much to look at.

Reply #40

sysp34 — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:34:06 GMT

second generate from filtering technique.

well i think that a good idea,

and maybe any combo's can be reduce with this technique or use single hit / 1 times Freq Dist as KEY numbers.

thanks and have a great days

sysp34

Reply #39

LANTERN — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:30:00 GMT

sysp34

Yes I can't see these:

if you can see this

1xx 6 10.0% 26 00 27 00 04 00 08 00 02 00 05 00 04 00 20 00 07 00 01 00 17 00 03 00 03 00 05 00 03 00 02.

Your spreadsheets have too much stuff that slows it down.

I have to study it good and see what is the stuff that I really need out of everything that the spreadsheets have.

I might not need everthig that they have, I need something a little smaller and faster, only those filters that I really need the most.

Reply #38

LANTERN — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:22:38 GMT

I entered or copied your combos into Paurths Hot-Cold counter and then wheeled with it the first 7 hottest digits. Enter these into it and wheel the first seven.

205, 408, 418, 328, 438, 658

228, 454, 448, 656, 868, 889

708, 159, 618, 258, 438, 357, 456

Reply #37

sysp34 — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:15:24 GMT

I can't get any skips at all on your spreadsheet period, so I deleted all of the skip sheets on the spreadsheet as thy are useless to me if I can;t use them.

Now the spreadsheet is only a little less tham 7 MB, isntead of more than 26 MB.

I don't know how to get it to give me the skips charts.

yup, skip and hit interval chart is the LARGEST file. i was creating 220 draws and the skip and hit interval take 42 MB lol while for stats only 10 MB that's way i need so VBA to copy formula for la... [ More ]

Reply #36

LANTERN — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:03:16 GMT

sysp34

I can't get any skips at all on your spreadsheet period, so I deleted all of the skip sheets on the spreadsheet as thy are useless to me if I can;t use them.

Now the spreadsheet is only a little less tham 7 MB, isntead of more than 26 MB.

I don't know how to get it to give me the skips charts.

Reply #35

LANTERN — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 GMT

Using the Cold counter this is the ranking:

8 4 5 6 2 3 0 1 7 9

If the first sevent digits had been wheeled then:

Created numbers: 35

458, 468, 248, 348, 048, 568, 258, 358, 058, 268, 368, 068, 238, 028, 038, 456, 245, 345, 045, 246, 346, 046, 234, 024, 034, 256, 356, 056, 235, 025, 035, 236, 026, 036, 023

If no doubles nor triples.

Reply #34

sysp34 — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:53:27 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by LANTERN on June 19, 2006 1xx 6 10.0% 26 00 27 00 04 00 08 00 02 00 05 00 04 00 20 00 07 00 01 00 17 00 03 00 03 00 05 00 03 00 02

x2x 5 12.7% 17 00 02 00 01 00 03 00 02 00 01 00 02 00 00 05 00 00 19 00 03 00 05 00 03 00 07 00 10 00 08

xx3 8 11.8% 17 00 05 00 03 00 05 00 06 00 02 00 22 00 01 00 00 01 00 02 00 07 00 02 00 02 00 09 00 18 00

How do you get those skips?

I can't get your program to show me any skips like that?

And How did you copied and pa... [ More ]

Reply #33

LANTERN — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:44:57 GMT

1xx 6 10.0% 26 00 27 00 04 00 08 00 02 00 05 00 04 00 20 00 07 00 01 00 17 00 03 00 03 00 05 00 03 00 02

x2x 5 12.7% 17 00 02 00 01 00 03 00 02 00 01 00 02 00 00 05 00 00 19 00 03 00 05 00 03 00 07 00 10 00 08

xx3 8 11.8% 17 00 05 00 03 00 05 00 06 00 02 00 22 00 01 00 00 01 00 02 00 07 00 02 00 02 00 09 00 18 00

How do you get those skips?

I can't get your program to show me any skips like that?

And How did you copied and pasted them into LP here?, Nothing that I try copies ri... [ More ]

Reply #32

LANTERN — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:36:56 GMT

Texas Mid 680.

key number: x5x, xx8

205, 408, 418, 328, 438, 658

228, 454, 448, 656, 868, 889

708, 159, 618, 258, 438, 357, 456

Close, but there are 6 boxed pairs in every pick 3 combo.

And a total of 45 non double pairs.

Still the 8 was the right key digit. It was on most ofyour combos.

You had the 68 pair on 3 combos and the 08 on 2 of them.

Where is the (Paurths) Hot-Cold counter when you need it?

Good luck.

Reply #31

sysp34 — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:27:45 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by sysp34 on June 18, 2006 Fernando

my guessing technique is simple just look pattern that break expected.

and for tx mid 06/19/06

patt % skip

eo

2E.1O 31.4% 3

3E 15.0% 8

lh

2L.1H 39.1% 7

ldr

0 11.8% 8

1 10.5% 19

4 11.4% 7

8 14.5% 15

rts

2 12.7% 13

5 10.9% 7

9 10.5% 15

key number: x5x, xx8

205, 408, 418, 328, 438, 658

228, 454, 448, 656, 868,

Reply #30

LANTERN — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:23:41 GMT

sysp34

You said to look for the patterns that break or will break the expected percents averages.

For the patterns that might come next or soon.

Easier said than done.

Filters patterns that hold very many combos will repeat or come out more often, but have way too many combos to be played and anyway can't be predicted for sure either.

Filters patterns that hold few combos, will take very much longer to come back again and are just as hard to predict or even harder, but have fewer... [ More ]

Reply #29

sysp34 — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:05:42 GMT

Fernando

my guessing technique is simple just look pattern that break expected.

and for tx mid 06/19/06

patt % skip

eo

2E.1O 31.4% 3

3E 15.0% 8

lh

2L.1H 39.1% 7

ldr

0 11.8% 8

1 10.5% 19

4 11.4% 7

8 14.5% 15

rts

2 12.7% 13

5 10.9% 7

9 10.5% 15

key number: x5x, xx8

205, 408, 418, 328, 438, 658

228, 454, 448, 656, 868, 889

708, 159, 618, 258, 438, 357, 456

well good

Reply #28

LANTERN — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:08:25 GMT

sysp34 This might no be what you want to hear, but you are already doing as well as it might be possible to do, after all the lottery is said to be unpredictable and you are getting boxed hits on the pick 4 game evrery so often with only a few played combos, you have been doing something that nobody should be doing, that it is said not to be possible to do. You can hardly do better than that.

As you need to use as few combos as possible, you developed a system that produces few combinations,

Reply #27

sysp34 — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:49:59 GMT

test for FL 4

3.HE or HE.HE.HE not appear on fixed 220 skip and hit interval

x668, x686, x688, x866,

x868, x886, x666, x888

well good luck

sysp34

Reply #26

LANTERN — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:33:50 GMT

sysp34

You need many past draws only if you are checking the skips' trends of straight combos, pairs and boxed combos.

Also to see the trends and skips' trends of some filters that have very many patterns to them you need many past draws.

But for filters that have from 2 to 10 patterns you should not need more than from 30 to 100 past draws to see their trends.

Filters that have 27 or so patterns to them, might perhaps need more than 100 past draws, maybe up to 300 or so of them, I d... [ More ]

Reply #25

LANTERN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:07:47 GMT

The pick 4 is a pick 3 with just 1 more digit, predict it as it being a combination of pick 3 games.

That is all for today, i really have to go now.

By.

Reply #24

LANTERN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:03:52 GMT

On the pick 3 and pick 4 you can do with only 30 draws.

i have been a ble to do with even just 1 draw a few times, the very last draw.

Of course, if you use only a few draws you will have to play many combos, very many combos I will add.

Reply #23

sysp34 — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:55:23 GMT

Fernando

i use my very old computer, i wait 15 minutes to update one draws LOL, and if i add skip and hit interval it would be more than 30 minutes because there was a lot of calculation. and i have tried for more than 5000 pick 4 draw in order to know lifetime drawing but the workbook reach their limit. only count 3276 draws

i guess i must learning access or others database to solve this problem.

maybe 100 draws, 300 draws or 1500 draws would be enough to see the trends is it?

and t... [ More ]

Reply #22

LANTERN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:48:55 GMT

I have to go now.

Sayonada.

Later.

Reply #21

LANTERN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:46:26 GMT

sysp34

Yes, your spreadsheets are AWESOME, really incredible, if only my computer was a lot faster.

Reply #20

LANTERN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:33:41 GMT

Sat, Jun 17, 2006 7-0-9 16 Sum - 6 LDR - 7 Root - 9 Width - HLH - OEO

Fri, Jun 16, 2006 5-1-6 12 ......2 ......3 .......5 ........HLH ..OOE

Thu, Jun 15, 2006 1-7-9 17 ......7 ......8 .......8 ........LHH ..OOO

Wed, Jun 14, 2006 5-8-0 13 ......3 ......4 .......8 ........HHL ..OEE

Tue, Jun 13, 2006 4-7-6 17 ......7 ......8 .......3 ........LHH ..EOE

Mon, Jun 12, 2006 0-8-5 13 ......3 ......4 .......8 ........LHH ..EEO

Sat, Jun 10, 2006 3-8-6 17 ......7 ......8 .......5 ........L... [ More ]

Reply #19

sysp34 — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:31:40 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by LANTERN on June 17, 2006

Texas Midday Pick 3 Previous Lottery Results Draw Date Results

Sat, Jun 17, 2006 7-0-9 16 Sum - 6 LDR - 7 Root - 9 Width - HLH - OEO

Fri, Jun 16, 2006 5-1-6 12 ......2 ......3 .......5 ........HLH ..OOE

Thu, Jun 15, 2006 1-7-9 17 ......7 ......8 .......8 ........LHH ..OOO

Wed, Jun 14, 2006 5-8-0 13 ......3 ......4 .......8 ........HHL ..OEE

Tue, Jun 13, 2006 4-7-6 17 ......7 ......8 .......3 ........LHH ..EOE

Mon,

Reply #18

LANTERN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:23:56 GMT

While I bough LottoPro a long time ago I have never used it, not even once I have never opened it.

I have many Lottery programs that I have never used.

As to hit and skip interval, your are sounding like CARBOB, there is no way as far as I know to know exactly when a given number will hit next.

As to broad patterns such as Width and others, there is no way either, a person can onlu make a guess.

well base on texas midday stats would you teaching us to see the skip and hit patterns

Reply #17

LANTERN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:08:35 GMT

Texas Midday Pick 3 Previous Lottery Results Draw Date Results

Sat, Jun 17, 2006 7-0-9 16 Sum - 6 LDR - 7 Root - 9 Width - HLH - OEO

Fri, Jun 16, 2006 5-1-6 12 ......2 ......3 .......5 ........HLH ..OOE

Thu, Jun 15, 2006 1-7-9 17 ......7 ......8 .......8 ........LHH ..OOO

Wed, Jun 14, 2006 5-8-0 13 ......3 ......4 .......8 ........HHL ..OEE

Tue, Jun 13, 2006 4-7-6 17 ......7 ......8 .......3 ........LHH ..EOE

Mon, Jun 12, 2006 0-8-5 13 ......3 ......4 .......8 ........LHH

Reply #16

sysp34 — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:02:16 GMT

Fernando,

maybe you already knew data solution skip and hit chart, the popular name was lotto pro 2006 :)

well i'm not pick 3/4 master because my filtering technique, can't traps the right date lol, often wait till next 3 draws and like this sat my filter out number for sunday appear for sat :)

skip and hit interval is the skill i need to improve and learning from master on LP would be great.

for faster spreadsheet, when you can open my lastest spreadsheet you should cut and paste... [ More ]

Reply #15

LANTERN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 17:27:16 GMT

Fernando,

HAC is hot average cold i use rank 1 (lowest) to 10 (highest) where

Hot : rank 8, 9, 10

Average : 4, 5, 6, 7

Cold: 1, 2, 3

sysp34 Thank you much.

and about your's skip improvement from your own research, is it like data solution skip and hit chart?

I never heard of them, I used Google just now to look for them and nothing comes up.

Do they make lottery programs? Which-ones? What are the names of the programs?

Can you show their skip and hit chart?

and firs... [ More ]

Reply #14

sysp34 — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:06:12 GMT

Fernando,

for first link try copy and paste, the link into your web browser.

http://www.geocities.com/sysp34/txskipeval01.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/sysp34/txskipeval02.jpg

or you may download this link

http://rapidshare.de/files/23311230/txskipeval.zip

well good luck

sysp34

Reply #13

sysp34 — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:19:02 GMT

Fernando,

HAC is hot average cold i use rank 1 (lowest) to 10 (highest) where

Hot : rank 8, 9, 10

Average : 4, 5, 6, 7

Cold: 1, 2, 3

and about your's skip improvement from your own research, is it like data solution skip and hit chart?

and first link is the important stat, you can try it again because geocities have hourly limited bandwidth as far i know 4.2 MB

and with these workout and combine with lotsoft wheeler/pro filter pick3/ deflate3 almost get hit again.

unfortu... [ More ]

Reply #12

LANTERN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:32:14 GMT

Bob

You know that if prediction was a sure and easy thing to do, that there would be no lottery for you and me to talk about as we are doing here now.

Also, as you well should know and I know that you do, I don't predict, that is not unfortunately my technique, my technique as you well know is that of REDUCTION, I reduce a source of combos to a smalller ammount of them.

As you know, I use EXCLUDE filters' patterns to substract or filter out combos that have those EXCLUDE filters' patter... [ More ]

Reply #11

LANTERN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 06:13:43 GMT

Mr. BlackApple.

Thanks a lot!

But, in so very many ways You leave me very far behind!

Thank You very much just the same.

Good luck to You!

Fernando.

Reply #10

Blackapple — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:33:20 GMT

Greatly appreciate your work

Top-Forward Thinker on the

cutting edge

Reply #9

CARBOB — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:04:00 GMT

Fernando,

I very interested in this skip thread. Below, is part of a table, I use to track Play 4 trips. The first column under skips is the current skip followed by next 10 hits. Ex. 111 skips 131 since last hit, then it skipped 82, then 96. How can you determine how many skips the number will have before the next hit? That's the secret to predictions.

Bob

TRIPSSKIPS1 2345678910

11113182 9613144431651702431298

112129190 2081173182358694322318

11323192 651708329227... [ More ]

Reply #8

LANTERN — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:21:32 GMT

The thing to do with these things is to do reverse predicting kind of, to see what led to what or what conditions led to what results.

Reply #7

LANTERN — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:11:13 GMT

The possible prediction lines or zones of prediction of lines spider out and even intersect with each other.

Reply #6

LANTERN — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:07:21 GMT

0 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 Dates Etc.

0 01 02 03 04 05 06 00 00 01 02

1 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

2 01 02 03 04 00 01 02 03 04 05

3 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

4 01 00 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07

5 01 02 03 00 01 02 03 05 00 00

6 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

7 00 01 02 03 04 00 01 02 03 04

8 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

9 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

-------------------------------------

The BLUE markers are possible Trend Lines (Paths... [ More ]

Reply #5

LANTERN — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:51:38 GMT

The dates were not aligned now they are. 0 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 Dates Etc.

0 01 02 03 04 05 06 00 00 01 02

1 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

2 01 02 03 04 00 01 02 03 04 05

3 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

4 01 00 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07

5 01 02 03 00 01 02 03 05 00 00

6 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

7 00 01 02 03 04 00 01 02 03 04

8 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

9 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

Reply #4

LANTERN — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:31:38 GMT

The numbers from 01 on up are the number of skips for the particular digit(s) since it (Theirs) last HIT.

Iti s easier to keep track of them in this way.

Reply #3

LANTERN — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:29:27 GMT

It came out wrong the first time so I had to FIX it.

Sorry.

Reply #2

LANTERN — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:22:35 GMT

For my good friends sysp34, Paurths, BlackApple, Janet, JAP, Todd, CD and many others too numerous to mention.

Here is a skips chart as it is needed for proper evaluation of skips.

Fernando's (LANTERN's) improved skips chart.

This skips chart is for the straight (By Position) pick 3 digits.

Partly based on sysp34's work, but mostly on my own skips research.

It shows the digits by position skips activity of the following Pa past draws:

From 5/01/06 to 5/10/06

517

579

07... [ More ]

Reply #1

LANTERN — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:19:52 GMT

sysp34

The first link gives a page with this: Sorry, this GeoCities site is currently unavailable.

The second link does show the picture, the is the second picture I guess that you wanted to show.

It show the skip for the HAC filter whatever that one is, it most be one of the filters from the ProFilter-Pick-3 program, maybe, but not one of my filters, but one of Harmens.

I don't remember what that filter is, if I knew at all, Harmen didn't explain some of his own filters, that is w... [ More ]

skip and hit stats for evaluation

sysp34 — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:06:12 GMT

hi all pick 3 hunter

here is some skip and hit stats for tx mid with last 300 draws (06/15),

http://www.geocities.com/sysp34/txskipeval01.jpg 1555kb

continue

http://www.geocities.com/sysp34/txskipeval02.jpg 796kb

good luck, and happy hunting for texas midday

sysp34