Pick4 number creator - using pick3 numbers

Reply #54

sysp34 — Sun, 02 Jul 2006 21:27:38 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by paurths on July 2, 2006 Hi sysp34,

you start with 6776, but where did you get the 6776 for MI?

Greetz

Ricky

Ricky,

it was purely coincidence my friends because tntea ask for 6776 to analyze. also it was for

Florida

Thursday, June 29, 2006

2-2-6-9

123678

123678

567012

091546

Numbers created: 10

---------------------------

0123, 0129, 1123, 1223, 1233, 4567, 5678, 6678, 6778, 6788

well i'm still learning to combine HAC to get pick 4 wi... [ More ]

Reply #53

paurths — Sun, 02 Jul 2006 21:21:12 GMT

Hi sysp34,

you start with 6776, but where did you get the 6776 for MI?

Greetz

Ricky

Reply #52

sysp34 — Sun, 02 Jul 2006 19:07:03 GMT

tntea

i hope you hit for sunday, with your wacth list number 6776, this pure coincidence. LOL

I am sorry.. I am not understanding this.. How do you set up the draw..

for instance 6776..

i was using my old methods to track follower number using -1, +1, and index or mirror from each position.

if last draw was 6776 then

5(-1) 6 (last hit) 7 (+1) 567 (+5 or mirror) become 012

6(-1) 7 (last hit) 8 (+1) 678 (+5 or mirror) become 123

6(-1) 7 (last hit) 8 (+1) 678 (+5 or mirror

Reply #51

Blackapple — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 20:47:58 GMT

In the original 23

Digit 2 8 were strongest

Combos that had not either

digit could have been deleted

Reply #50

Blackapple — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 20:40:05 GMT

Thanks Fibonacci,for the

procedures,it bring credibility

to testing.

Reply #49

Fibonacci — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 20:32:55 GMT

Update: It worked for yesterday's draw in Ny also.

Here are the numbers generated for Jun 30 (duplicates in red. Green shows number resulting in hit after tweaking)

0017, 0236, 0239, 0267, 1128, 1158, 1258, 1458, 1568

1589, 2247, 2369, 2447, 2458, 2467, 2477, 2568, 2679

3458, 3679, 4568

Ny draws for Jun 30 were 5968 and 5029

There are 23 numbers. Had I mirrored them (ie 1 digit tweak at a time) i would generate 92 numbers and a box hit for 5968 from the number 4568

Reply #48

tiber — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 20:30:07 GMT

you pick from mid or eve starting at the top or should I say latest draw as lone as the numbers you select have a key number in them. As far as how many draws that does not matter just select until you reach 36 numbers.

Reply #47

Fibonacci — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 20:18:08 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by paurths on July 1, 2006Hi all,

it is great to see so much creativity,

i have this feeling that lots of people or testing it lots of things, and that the results are getting better by the day.

We might still face the edge, but with betslips-payout it just might get beaten.

As SMB1988 pointed out, it is quite important when posting methods to actually post the workout, step by step.

This way it will become easier for people to jump in and test for their own. Th... [ More ]

Reply #46

paurths — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 20:11:05 GMT

Hi all,

it is great to see so much creativity,

i have this feeling that lots of people or testing it lots of things, and that the results are getting better by the day.

We might still face the edge, but with betslips-payout it just might get beaten.

As SMB1988 pointed out, it is quite important when posting methods to actually post the workout, step by step.

This way it will become easier for people to jump in and test for their own. The more people start testing, the more variations th... [ More ]

Reply #45

SMB1988 — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 19:23:21 GMT

Can you please show in detail how this method gave you your win for NY today (2039). Please show the break down of the pick 3 combos converted from the NY Pick 4 from the combine pool and the better effect from their respective (trios/triads). And the final conversion of the newly created Pick 4 #'s converted back to pick 3 #'s to play.

Reply #44

SMB1988 — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 19:10:13 GMT

OK Tiber,

I think I'm still confused on the top of the list part for Pick 3 numbers. I understand the part of the key numbers and selecting only those numbers from the list but what I am not totally sure about is the list. Are you selecting pick 3 #'s from the eve draw only, mid only or both combined and what is considered the top of the list? Would that be the last 10, 20, 30, 50 draws etc... until you get your 36 picks?

Thanks,

Reply #43

Fibonacci — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 19:08:31 GMT

Did I say had AI used the tool for NY yesterday i would have scored a straight hit 499. Turning pick4 draws into pick 3 combos. I would have had to play 74 numbers.

Reply #42

Fibonacci — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 19:00:41 GMT

Another amazing tool by my favorite programmer. LP has so much info i can hardly keep up and almost missed this one. It is great.

As always I try to look for ways to bend any new method, system or prog into my pair obsessions.

Here are a few ways i find the new tool works for me:

1. Instead of using pick 3 numbers use the first three and last three digits of your pick 4 draws.

That way you must get duplicate pairs. For even better effect. Break up all the draws into their triads (or

Reply #41

sysp34 — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 04:35:30 GMT

tntea

i was using my old methods to track follower number using -1, +1, and index or mirror from each position.

if last draw was 6776 then

5(-1) 6 (last hit) 7 (+1) 567 (+5 or mirror) become 012

6(-1) 7 (last hit) 8 (+1) 678 (+5 or mirror) become 123

6(-1) 7 (last hit) 8 (+1) 678 (+5 or mirror) become 123

5(-1) 6 (last hit) 7 (+1) 567 (+5 or mirror) become 012

set 567012 678123 678123 56702 to Pick4_NumbersFrom6_ways.exe and ...

Numbers created: 14

Reply #40

tntea — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 03:43:49 GMT

I am sorry.. I am not understanding this.. How do you set up the draw..

for instance 6776..

Reply #39

tiber — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 03:05:32 GMT

no hit number was 2709 these number 2-7-0-9 will be the new key#'s for midday next drawing.

Reply #38

sysp34 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:15:37 GMT

yet still miss target, evening appears on midday lol

Game Type: Pick 4 Games Country: All Countries Drawing Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 Draw Type: Both Midday and Evening Results

State Game Draw Date Results

ConnecticutMidday 4Fri, Jun 30, 20066-4-0-5

DelawareMidday 4Fri, Jun 30, 20064-7-9-5

GeorgiaMidday 4Fri, Jun 30, 20065-2-7-1

IllinoisMidday 4Fri, Jun 30, 20069-6-1-6

IndianaMidday 4Fri, Jun 30, 20060-4-2-3

IowaMidday 4Fri, Jun 30, 20069-6-1-6

KentuckyMidday Pi... [ More ]

Reply #37

sysp34 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:41:33 GMT

Hi Ricky

to me (and many others) you are the wizard around here.

If only i could comprehend all the things you write about, and your statistical excel-sheets...

You are too high level man! It will take much more time before i will understand a wizard!

now i become a wizard of oz LOL

which part that you take alot of time to understand the worksheet my friend, although the worksheet had alot of stats lol

feel free to email me maybe we can add some features for lotsoft next release, b... [ More ]

Reply #36

tiber — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:37:43 GMT

my bad After I posted I reread your post and it said so in black and white........

Reply #35

teacake58 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:29:26 GMT

thanks

Reply #34

paurths — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:25:24 GMT

Hi tiber,

In the pick3 to Pick4-convertor, the numbers are automatically converted to box.

greetz

Ricky

Reply #33

tiber — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:02:42 GMT

Can you also put that turn box option on the pick 3 for 4.

Reply #32

tiber — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:59:12 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Blackapple on June 30, 2006 going from the top of list write any number that has at least one of the key numbers for a total of 36 numbers.

The 36 collected is that from

Day nite combined

Or Day hits from Day Pick3 history

Nite hits from Nite Pick3 historyt

Sorry left that out it will be day nite.

Reply #31

Blackapple — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:23:00 GMT

going from the top of list write any number that has at least one of the key numbers for a total of 36 numbers.

The 36 collected is that from

Day nite combined

Or Day hits from Day Pick3 history

Nite hits from Nite Pick3 historyt

Reply #30

paurths — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:17:14 GMT

Hi,

i've adjusted the tool,

you can also create pick3 numbers from Pick4 numbers.

Input the pick4 numbers (type them in or paste them from another location - Emma Lou?) in the yellow box

If you want the parser to ignore any duplicates check the checkbox Remove duplicate pick4-numbers .

If you do not check the option Turn box , then it is very unlikely that there are any duplicate pick4-numbers. (but anything is possible yes...)

If you check the checkbox Turn box , then the pars... [ More ]

Reply #29

tiber — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:57:08 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by paurths on June 30, 2006 Hi tiber,

you wrote: This is one way to use this program, What I did was take Illinois midday draw of 1337 then looking at the pick 3 drawn numbers I put in only the numbers that had at least a 1-3-7. I inputed 36 numbers (that is how many duke will spit out). These are the numbers.

could you explain into detail exactly what you did?

I'm not fully understand.

greetz

Ricky

taking the number 1337 you use 1-3-7 as your key numbers... [ More ]

Reply #28

paurths — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:07:35 GMT

Hi sysp34,

to me (and many others) you are the wizard around here.

If only i could comprehend all the things you write about, and your statistical excel-sheets...

You are too high level man! It will take much more time before i will understand a wizard!

greetz

Ricky

Reply #27

paurths — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:04:21 GMT

Hi tiber,

you wrote: This is one way to use this program, What I did was take Illinois midday draw of 1337 then looking at the pick 3 drawn numbers I put in only the numbers that had at least a 1-3-7. I inputed 36 numbers (that is how many duke will spit out). These are the numbers.

could you explain into detail exactly what you did?

I'm not fully understand.

greetz

Ricky

Reply #26

tiber — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:39:37 GMT

then in theory the past to draws whould have cost me 218.00 for a net profit of 1282.00. Online of course. that will work.

Ok test for eve.illinois,new #'s

Numbers created: 107

---------------------------

0012, 0015, 0016, 0017, 0018, 0056, 0067, 0115, 0117, 0118, 0122, 0125, 0127, 0128, 0129, 0137, 0138, 0155, 0156, 0157, 0158, 0167, 0177, 0178, 0188, 0189, 0267, 0356, 0467, 0556, 0566, 0567, 0667, 0677, 1113, 1119, 1128, 1129, 1133, 1136, 1137, 1138, 1139, 1149, 1169, 1189, 1199,... [ More ]

Reply #25

sysp34 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:09:41 GMT

yup, this was a discussion on its own, just testing your new magnificient tool my friends.

i just wonder if there consistent result for boxed pick4

and i think that's count as surpluss for Online return is $750 - $109 = $641 very good start.

good luck

Reply #24

paurths — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:50:29 GMT

Well, that's a discussion on its own, isn't it?

It seems that people are always trying to get a hit with a few combo's, 4 to 10 for pick3

don't know how many for pick4.

(And ofcourse no one in their right minds would talk against that.)

And if you hit then, that's good, you can go a long time without a hit.

But if you have more hits by using more numbers, is it that bad then?

In your example 109 numbers were created.

These are to play boxed.

You hit.

Online return is $750

Is that... [ More ]

Reply #23

tiber — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:38:53 GMT

From my early post the number was not in the 65 that was created by the program but.....if

I would have unchecked removed duplicate pick3 numbers I would get this.

Numbers created: 109

---------------------------

0015, 0018, 0027, 0057, 0067, 0115, 0118, 0128, 0138, 0155, 0157, 0158, 0188, 0227, 0237, 0257, 0267, 0277, 0357, 0467, 0557, 0567, 0577, 0667, 0677, 1112, 1113, 1119, 1122, 1123, 1128, 1129, 1133, 1136, 1137, 1138, 1139, 1149, 1169, 1199, 1228, 1229, 1236, 1237, 1238,... [ More ]

Reply #22

sysp34 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:30:33 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by sysp34 on June 30, 2006 you are the man to create MAGNIFICIENT TOOLS to play pick3/4 games with easiest and simplicity. long time ago i use to track number with +1-1 and mirror, also with some combination from last result, sorry i'm forget the methods.

here is one example i used to track.

Massachusetts (MA)

Thu, Jun 29, 2006

6-3-3-1

567012

234589

234589

012567

Numbers created: 12

---------------------------

0012, 0112, 0122, 2234, 2334, 2344, 5567... [ More ]

Reply #21

tiber — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:49:31 GMT

This is one way to use this program, What I did was take Illinois midday draw of 1337 then looking at the pick 3 drawn numbers I put in only the numbers that had at least a 1-3-7. I inputed 36 numbers (that is how many duke will spit out). These are the numbers.

318,270,329,194,897,010,833,337,834,537,774,635,821,053,881,377,173,674,281,075,237,113,727,136,121,108,623,356,912,483.,762,725,911,706,150,691.

RESULT:

Numbers created: 65

---------------------------

0015, 0... [ More ]

Reply #20

derek7 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:31:56 GMT

Thank you for clarification.

Reply #19

sysp34 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:04:12 GMT

Hi Ricky and everybody

wow, you are the man to create MAGNIFICIENT TOOLS to play pick3/4 games with easiest and simplicity.

long time ago i use to track number with +1-1 and mirror, also with some combination from last result, sorry i'm forget the methods.

here is one example i used to track.

Massachusetts (MA)

Thu, Jun 29, 2006

6-3-3-1

567012

234589

234589

012567

Numbers created: 12

---------------------------

0012, 0112, 0122, 2234, 2334, 2344, 5567, 5589, 5667, 5677... [ More ]

Reply #18

cps10 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:38:19 GMT

Ricky

That makes sense...thanks for the clarification.

Reply #17

paurths — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:25:42 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by derek7 on June 30, 2006 Quick question:

I tried to understand the logic... and I do not understand why those combinations were not generated (from the example on the picture):

6640

6644

Why? Can somebody explain, please...

/Derek7

Hi derek7,

this was the input:

908 - 646 - 416

690086846641

408 you can put anything here!!!!!!!!!

146

--> it is a mess, just to show that you can input the pick3 numbers just the way you like.

Now, wh... [ More ]

Reply #16

paurths — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:18:29 GMT

Hi Badger/winsum,

first, to everyone, you're all very welcome lol

This is indeed just a tool, no more than that, that will create pick4-numbers (box/combo-format) using pick3 numbers (which it will turn into box/combo-format).

There are 2 requirements before any pick4 number can be created:

- you must enter/paste numbers into the yellow textbox lol

- the combo's must have matching pairs.

Steve (winsum): the data in the yellow textbox in the example is just rubbish lol, it is to show... [ More ]

Reply #15

derek7 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 04:56:53 GMT

Quick question:

I tried to understand the logic... and I do not understand why those combinations were not generated (from the example on the picture):

6640

6644

Why? Can somebody explain, please...

/Derek7

Reply #14

tntea — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:06:45 GMT

How I am using this great tool...

Check out results on Let'em Ride Round II Post

I take mid/eve pick 4.. enter those into The Duke..

Take the results from it and put it in the new program.. (needs a name.. ) Maybe 4-Legged Friend lol

Then let it give you the combos it gets by combining the pick three results that The Duke gave..

Reply #13

Badger — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 02:50:31 GMT

winsum, I think this is a program you can get creative with....it's not meant to be a predictor per se. You enter three-digit combos (try 'em from your state, enter as many as you want, up to 1000 characters, I believe) and see what P4 combos it generates. Then see how it does in the drawings after that in the P4.

I think its more meant to be a tool for you to try different things with. Paurths isn't claiming anything, and certainly not that it hits the winning combos each day. Heck, you c... [ More ]

Reply #12

cps10 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:21:33 GMT

Reply #11

winsumloosesum — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:17:17 GMT

Thanks Ricky.

Can someone provide instructions on where the numbers in the yellow box come from??

908 - 646 - 416

690086846641

408 you can put anything here!!!!!!!!!

146

If someone would be nice and provide an example from the state they play and how to generate combinations combinations to play.

Thanks

Reply #10

cps10 — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:13:06 GMT

@tntea

You will need to give us a crash course for this Tool

Reply #9

tntea — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:54:18 GMT

Absolutely the Tool I have been looking for.. Thanks a Million... and then some..

Reply #8

angelm — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:50:54 GMT

Thanks

Reply #7

Blackapple — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:54:21 GMT

Thanks,Ricky Pick4 combo selection

tough root sum easy

Reply #6

cps10 — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:37:45 GMT

great work Ricky

Reply #5

lotterybraker — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:27:36 GMT

Oh ok Thanks Paurths..I was just going to back test a little bit to see how it would do..lol

Reply #4

paurths — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:25:57 GMT

Hi Lotterybraker,

to create combo's from those numbers, i recommend using the free pick4 wheeling engine. (http://members.lotterypost.com/paurths/download/freewheelpick4.zip)

This tool was designed to create pick4 numbers from pick3-numbers with matching pairs.

It seems that Duke spits out pick3 numbers that when created into pick4 numbers seem to hit. (tntea hit twice in 2 days or something in TN eve, one of them being a triple. Perhaps she hit other states as well, but i have not read e... [ More ]

Reply #3

lotterybraker — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:22:07 GMT

526 941 paurths

Reply #2

paurths — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:18:13 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by lotterybraker on June 29, 2006 well I typed the numbers in the yellow area but it will not create any numbers..is anyone else's working?

Hi lotterybraker,

what were the numbers you entered?

I forget to mention this, it is in the other thread in pick4 TN... by tntea,

the tool will only create pick4-numbers if it finds pick3 numbers with matching pairs. (1 matching digit is not enough)

greetz

Ricky

Reply #1

lotterybraker — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:07:14 GMT

well I typed the numbers in the yellow area but it will not create any numbers..is anyone else's working

Pick4 number creator - using pick3 numbers

paurths — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:48:21 GMT

Hi,

here is a free tool that will create pick4 numbers, using pick3 numbers.

Input you 3-digit-combo's into the yellow textbox,

check or uncheck Remove duplicate pick3 numbers to have the parser remove any duplicate 3-digit-combo's.

The tool will turn each pick3 number you enter to it's combo-format, e.g. 314 will become 134.

If it finds more than one occurance of 134 and you have checked the checkbox, then it will only use 134 just 1 time in the process of creating pick4 numbers.

If... [ More ]