Top 5 Predictors

Reply #53

RJOh — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:01:00 GMT

A consensus of the PowerBall Challengers is not a consensus of the top Multi-State games predictors. I was looking at the top 10 predictors list and that list is a whole different list when it's regenerated by state or/and game type. Maybe taking a consensus of the top predictors of the game type or/and state that you're playing will get better results. Just a thought I'm throwing out there.

Reply #52

ayenowitall — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 03:06:19 GMT

Consensus numbers for 8-12-06 PowerBall Challenge:

8

18

26

32

6-15-20-23-34-35-46-47 (8-way tie for fifth number)

PB: 19 (1st choice)

28 (2nd choice)

Draw numbers for 8-12-06: 13-14-18-27-54, PB: 32

Consensus picks hit white ball 18 only.

Reply #51

Rick G — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:12:02 GMT

Yes Jack, it has been interesting and time not wasted. I don't play these games for the same reason as you...I'm lousy at it. But that's not to say that a group of people couldn't put their best numbers on the table and with a tool like deflate, come up with the most common numbers among the group. I think it could work, at least to get a few bucks back from the game more often than not. Too many different angles of attack to preclude that scenario.

Working together doesn't necessarily... [ More ]

Reply #50

nassaufinestguy — Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:56:25 GMT

iamnext in top 5

Reply #49

Rip Snorter — Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:42:57 GMT

The greed involved in a parimutuel game pits us against each other and them.

I don't believe we're actually pitted against one another, Rick. Some of us are sort of Internet 'friends', or simpatico acquaintances off LP, and we've frequently either helped, or attempted to help one another regarding jackpot games.

If I ever get any better at predicting jackpot games those are certainly the ones I'll do my best to help in the future.

If I've seemed 'uncooperative' or protective on this... [ More ]

Reply #48

RJOh — Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:17:22 GMT

Much of the helpful information about the daily pick3 and pick4 games come from players who may have won or will win those games top prizes but the top prizes are $50 to $10,000, so even if someone believes he is in a gambling endeavor with other members there is no expectation of sharing anything but numbers. With jackpots of $100M+, it's hard to treat PB and MM the same way, if someone was in a group sharing numbers and actually won a jackpot a big misunderstanding might be exposed.

Reply #47

Rick G — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:33:40 GMT

Very true, RJOh. In any paimutuel gambling endeavor this will be the case. That's why I like the daily games and why those forums are so full of helpful information and cooperation to win the game. It's simply us against them. The greed involved in a parimutuel game pits us against each other and them.

The lotteries are smarter than the average bear.

Reply #46

RJOh — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:59:13 GMT

While many of the posts didn't seem cooperative , they were protective . Some predictors have their unscientific quirks and hunches about predicting that they aren't willing to debate, posting their predictions is as cooperative as they get.

Reply #45

Rick G — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 05:21:02 GMT

Kidzmom asked for a cooperative effort to win a jackpot game. Read the responses. Very few of them have offered anything cooperative to achieve that goal.

Negativity breeds negativity.

Reply #44

RJOh — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:03:47 GMT

From the interest this thread generated it appears I was right, top predictors aren't interested in changing or combining their systems with someone elses system or collaborate with others when making their picks. Predicting winning lottery numbers isn't a team sport. Good luck to anyone who takes up the sport.

Reply #43

ayenowitall — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:59:32 GMT

Most people who have been playing the lotteries over the years have used quite a few different systems. I can think of several dozen systems that I've used myself. Some of those systems have worked better than others. Maybe each of us should take the number selections of his top 5 systems and play the numbers that those prediction results have in common. Using that approach, nobody would have to share the fruits of his labors when the winning jackpot numbers are extracted from the mix.

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Reply #42

RJOh — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:36:19 GMT

Sounds like a good idea but I doubt if they could pick all fifty. My guess would be any amount above thirty-five would have at least one of the winning numbers.

Reply #41

m3g4m1ll10ns — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:20:19 GMT

How about the bottom 500 predicters getting together and predicting what the numbers won't be?

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There is no formula or pattern looking forward or backward to tell you what the next numbers will be or what the previous numbers were.

Reply #40

RJOh — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:41:32 GMT

I believe the next PowerBall winner will be someone who picked his numbers, whether by QP or a system, without any help from anyone else. Picking lottery numbers is not a team sport. I hope if a LP member predicts the next winner, he also played it. Good luck.

Reply #39

Rip Snorter — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:29:17 GMT

, , , further, while you may think that narrowing it down to 15 numbers plus 4-5 numbers for powerball is something great, i dont. i think anyone could do this over a period of time, and occasionally have 3-4 numbers, possibly even the powerball.

Nclotto:

You're correct. There's a lot we'd disagree about. Fortunately there's no reason for either of us to care whether the other agrees.

Hopefully those others working together will give you a set of numbers that will allow you to shar... [ More ]

Reply #38

RJOh — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:09:23 GMT

Did anybody run a simulation to see how well they might have done wheeling the most frequent numbers used by the top predictors or even the predictors with winners on the board last night? Some time an idea sound better when it's talked about than it is when tried.

Reply #37

LOTTOMIKE — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:22:36 GMT

while there have not been any jackpot winners here on lottery post there have been a few pick 5 winners.st. germain and lucky larry i think are two that come to mind off the top of my head.st. germain has hit the pick 5 not once but twice for jackpots.there are some pretty smart people here.we had a guy here called bigloooser who actually had everybody's attention because he was picking at least five numbers out of the powerball drawing and he had a successful system but pulled a vanishing act a... [ More ]

Reply #36

nclottoplayer — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:05:36 GMT

thankyou for your comments., while i agree with some of your points, i do not with all of them.

first, while i see many predictions, and realize alot of time was spent on them, i do not see any jackpot winners here, and am willing to bet there have been none here(on big jackpots, ie powerball, megamillions, etc.) in the past.

please dont lecture me about time either, sir, while i realize there are many that just look to someome else for tips, and spend no time of their own, i am not on... [ More ]

Reply #35

Rip Snorter — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:02:53 GMT

Yeah it would. Nice thought.

As it stands the only way way my numbers have of getting deflated is by being posted or played, then afterward compared to the numbers drawn.

Usually that's deflating enough for one evening.

J

Reply #34

Rick G — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:57:31 GMT

The Utopian solution would be to have a deflate option for specific jackpot games with the ability of members to check off which members' picks they want to deflate. The check-off option for what specific players' picks you want to deflate would be a nice feature for any game.

Edit: By deflate option in the jackpot games I'm referring simply to the times a number was chosen.

Reply #33

Rip Snorter — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:09:00 GMT

Mine are on the predictions page and on the PB challenge thread if anyone's wrong-headed enough to want to use them.

I've got the lousiest history in all Christiandom predictioning PG, though I think my bogus ball numbers might be good'uns.

J

Reply #32

RJOh — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:03:30 GMT

Actually most of the new threads are started in the Pick3 and Pick4 forum. The Math forum seldom gets more than one new thread a week and threads started in the Lottery Discussion, Lottery Systems, Jackpot and Pick5 forums are usually on the top page of that forum for a day, they may get bumped off the home page by the active threads, but they remain on the top page of their forum.

Reply #31

Rick G — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:01:00 GMT

Mike,

I'd join you in your initiative of posting numbers for PB tonight, but I can't at this time. I've never played or looked at Powerball in my life I don't even know when the drawing is or what day it is drawn (Wed., Sat.?).

The only way I could participate is 25 numbers from each participant for the white balls and no bogus ball predictions. (That's what puts the parimutuel in parimutuel) and an even distribution of picks from each of the participants.

Reply #30

LOTTOMIKE — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:49:35 GMT

white balls-15,16,17,18,19,26,27,28,29,36,37,38,46,47,48,52,54

power balls-

8,14,17,19,24,28

don't know if these numbers are any good.thought i'd throw them out there for tonight.night do good or might be bust.

anyone else care to add to the pot

Reply #29

Rip Snorter — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:46:20 GMT

Nclottoplayer:

I've been reflecting on this thread on and off this afternoon. I'm one of the people who ignored your suggestion. I might have joined a conversation, as I've joined this one, had someone responded.

I think there are several aspects of pick 5, pick 6, and jackpot games predicting you mightn't have considered.

It takes a lot of work to develop methods for predicting double digit games. The people who manage to do it with any degree of success are able to do so because th... [ More ]

Reply #28

Rick G — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:40:51 GMT

NClotto,

Threads are buried quickly on LP. That's what happens when 45,000 people are talking at the same time with some of them monopolizing the conversation. I have said for a long time that there should be a daily limit on the amount of threads a member can start in one day. The number of threads could be tailored to membership status.

Again, it's a matter of personal responsibility and courtesy to our fellow members to let others have a chance to talk too.

Getting back to... [ More ]

Reply #27

Rip Snorter — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:17:40 GMT

You might check out the constantly running threads, the PB Challenge, and the MM Challenge.

People post predictions there, sometimes good ones. Recent 3+1 there.

Maybe you'll find that's helpful.

Jack

Reply #26

RJOh — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:03:58 GMT

Just check the prediction page, there are plenty of premium members posting 50 lines for almost any lottery you want to play. If I was you, I would check their prediction statistics before I played their numbers in a real drawing using real money. Good luck to you.

Reply #25

RJOh — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:54:02 GMT

nclottoplayer,

Most of the top predictors are premium members who are use to posting 50 lines per drawing, were you really surprised that asking them to change their style of predicting for the benefits of someone else didn't get any response? You should share that idea with a group of friends, coworkers or family members and form a lottery pool that will play numbers picked that way. Good luck to you

RJOh

Reply #24

Rip Snorter — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:47:25 GMT

does anyone have some type of system the use for lotto or powerball.

Not a soul here has anything of that sort. We're all quickpickers.

J

Reply #23

rhow — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:21:59 GMT

do you know what the odds are of winning this big one approx. 40 million to 1. pooling probably would give you a better shot because you could generate more combinations.

does anyone have some type of system the use for lotto or powerball.

Reply #22

Kidzmom — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:39:19 GMT

Hello nclottoplayer,

I did not realize that you had posted something like this a while ago, but at any rate it is a good idea. Pipe dreams do come true you just have to have faith and have a positive attitude about it. Why don't you form a lottery pool with some trusted family or friends and that way your limited budget can actually be a bigger budget on a weekly basis. You have to have guidelines and rules like I made up for my group of 10 people.

We have hope, faith, and positive att... [ More ]

Reply #21

nclottoplayer — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:46:34 GMT

gee, sounds similar to something i suggested weeks ago, which everyone ignored. i think its a great idea also. there are many good predictors here, and many good hits. but no one has hit the jackpot, and i dont believe anyone ever will, on their own.

everyone should know by now, that things get done, when people, and minds come together. you have everyone here doing there own thing, and no one working together. i asked for some help awhile back on some things i was working on. for some inp... [ More ]

Reply #20

Kidzmom — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:50:14 GMT

Good Morning all,

Since we are all one big happy family here, I wanted to see how the numbers would stack up with 5 of the top pickers. We are all into finding fun ways to come up with numbers and best of all understanding them. I think that there have been some very good ideas on the board and everyone is entitled to their own opinion without making comments to offend anyone else. Constructive opinions are more welcome than destructive opinions.

There seem to be 2 maybe 3 interested

Reply #19

Rip Snorter — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:46:16 GMT

Sorry Larry.

Online social interplay ain't my best suit of clothes. I'm here about numbers and understanding them.

I'll try to cut back on my opinionations and smartassedness.

Thanks for pointing it out amigo

Jack

Reply #18

four4me — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:05:56 GMT

hey man i don't have a problem with you i was just expressing a theory along metaphysical lines as you also have done in many posts. You crack wise with lots of posters but if someone cracks wise with you get wired. I wasn't trying to be a wise ass. there are people who do channel. it's not something i invented.

Personally i don't know what your views are as you and everyone else on this planet have many and they change like the weather.

you say you don't offer opinions well you and i... [ More ]

Reply #17

Rip Snorter — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:11:46 GMT

Actually Larry, what I think is that you're putting a lot of words into my mouth the past couple of days. All I can assume it that the words must be a metaphysical manifestation of your own yearnings and goals.

what's a mater Jack don't you think channeling can work if 5 people come up with 5 numbers isn't that just as good an idea as any other.

As for this most recent expression of what I think I'll not offer an opinion, except to say I don't believe all ideas are equal where coming u... [ More ]

Reply #16

four4me — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:59:12 GMT

why yes that would be 12

what's a mater Jack don't you think channeling can work if 5 people come up with 5 numbers isn't that just as good an idea as any other.

Reply #15

Rip Snorter — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:38:43 GMT

Kidzmom:

Looks as though LottoMike's weighing in to volunteer for the effort, Padawan's agreed to it also. That's two of five.

And you've got Four4me (larry) chewing his fingernails and twiddling his toes hoping someone will ask him (even if it's only for channeling or seancing numbers for the group). Larry's no shabby predictor, so he'll make a good addition if LottoMike and Padawan agree to let him into the mix.

There's three of five. Looks like you're close to having a convoy. I... [ More ]

Reply #14

Rip Snorter — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:33:42 GMT

I designed this new icon in hopes of getting a peek inside the head of derek7. I surely would like to know what's going on with that one.

But thus far all I'm seeing is bellybuttons and fingernails. Probably not even his.

Jack

Reply #13

LOTTOMIKE — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:25:50 GMT

Hot Predictors (Last 30 Days by Prize Ratio)

Member Prize Ratio Wagers Winnings

1.derek717258.62%$58$10,010

2.Lucky871.87%$800$6,975

3.PadawanLotto675.12%$1,636$11,045

4.LOTTOMIKE280.00%$350$980

5.Rick G266.66%$375$1,000

Hot Predictors (Last 30 Days by Hit Ratio)

Member Hit Ratio Picks Hits

1.Lucky13.87%800111

2.Rick G12.80%37548

3.barney12.72%27535

4.LOTTOMIKE12.57%35044

5.shawniemoney10.52%192

Reply #12

Rip Snorter — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:13:57 GMT

four4me, I am thinking of a number between 1 and 39 can you sence it.

Reply #11

four4me — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:22:12 GMT

I am thinking of a number between 1 and 39 can you sence it.

Reply #10

PadawanLotto — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:58:47 GMT

I'm game but I may need time for setup depending on the lotto chosen.

Reply #9

Rip Snorter — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:32:53 GMT

Larry, maybe you could set up a channeling session and one of you could be the forecaster and the others be receivers. each receiver will write down the numbers being forecast. And possibly the winning combinations will be recorded.

Reply #8

four4me — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:48:53 GMT

Rip maybe you could set up a channeling session and one of you could be the forecaster and the others be receivers. each receiver will write down the numbers being forecast. And possibly the winning combinations will be recorded.

Reply #7

Rip Snorter — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:38:41 GMT

Also the fact that they post independently of each other (we presume), using different strategies (we assume) lends added weight to their predictions.

Fibonacci:

I've wondered about that sufficiently to cause me to study some predictions looking for similarities. I came away convinced the folks who are flashing the lights on pick 5 and pick 6 are working independently.

As for the question of whether kidzmom's idea might be good or bad, it seems to me that's open to question until some... [ More ]

Reply #6

Fibonacci — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:11:04 GMT

Great post. I couldn't agree more...

Also the fact that they post independently of each other (we presume), using different strategies (we assume) lends added weight to their predictions. Any kind of collaboration degrades those confidence-boosting factors.

Reply #5

Rip Snorter — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:02:57 GMT

Kidsmom:

That takes two possibles off. My impression is that Padawan's pretty busy at the moment, so he's probably not going to have time, also.

My name, as RJOH correctly observed, was never on the list, so there's no requirement that I remove it.

But you're still left with a good group of predictors if you want to try and get them to do it.

Jack

PadawanLotto

RJOh

Rick G

LottoVantage

tntea

derek7

bellyache

LOTTOMIKE

Reply #4

RJOh — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:38:54 GMT

Jack,

You left Rip Snorter off that list.

Since top predictors make the list by posting predictions, anyone can track and correlate their favorite predictors posts and use the results.

Predictors have their own systems, favorite lotteries and predict for fun and bragging rights, all which goes against the the team concept.

If anyone can use the prediction board to come up with a jackpot winner, good luck to them.

Reply #3

Rick G — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:17:34 GMT

I'll have to remove my name from the list because I'm giving jackpot games a break right now and concentrating on pick 3. But it's a good idea. Each person could post their 10-15 best numbers and you could look for matching numbers.

Reply #2

Kidzmom — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:45:23 GMT

sounds like a winner. I hope they decide to give it a shot.

Reply #1

Rip Snorter — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:54:46 GMT

Cool idea. But a lot of them don't post much, or are only into pick 3 and pick 4.

But getting some of the recent big hitters in the jackpot games to work together that way would be interesting and helpful to everyone.

I'd suggest the following predictors:

PadawanLotto

RJOh

Rick G

LottoVantage

tntea

derek7

bellyache

LOTTOMIKE

I've put in several extras in case any of them don't wish to participate for one reason or another. There ought to be five among those... [ More ]

Top 5 Predictors

Kidzmom — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:25:42 GMT

How about the top 5 predictors getting together and prediciting what the numbers will be and that way you may come out with a Jackpot winner. I've been reading the post and we have some awesome people working on predictions but having 5 of the top coming out with several numbers that they agree on could be worth a shot.