Budward and LL's Pick 3/4 System Challenge!

Reply #59

mazk — Sat, 28 Oct 2006 19:05:50 GMT

Let us try NY for today 10 - 28 :

2754 3531 4308 5085 5862

2865 3753 4641 5529 6417

2764 3541 4318 5095 5872

2875 3763 4651 5539 6427

2774 3551 4328 5105 5882

2885 3773 4661 5549 6437

2655 3432 4209 4986 5763

2766 3654 4542 5430 6318

2665 3442 4219 4996 5773

2776 3664 4552 5440 6328

2675 3452 4229 5006 5783

2786 3674 4562 5450 6338

Tons of pointers !!!!

That was 777 version,

New York

Midday Win 4Sat, Oct 28, 20065-4-7-6

but with 277 version :

2192 2469 2... [ More ]

Reply #58

mazk — Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:45:32 GMT

Thank you Ducks, there is something to learn every time you post :)

Let us try NY for today 10 - 28 :

2754 3531 4308 5085 5862

2865 3753 4641 5529 6417

2764 3541 4318 5095 5872

2875 3763 4651 5539 6427

2774 3551 4328 5105 5882

2885 3773 4661 5549 6437

2655 3432 4209 4986 5763

2766 3654 4542 5430 6318

2665 3442 4219 4996 5773

2776 3664 4552 5440 6328

2675 3452 4229 5006 5783

2786 3674 4562 5450 6338

Raw numbers ...no filtering

Reply #57

ducksafloat — Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:53:35 GMT

i know that's right Picks!

here's what i see in MO:

4918

9064

0453

2542

5814

9683

this is eve4, note the green? 9683 didn't yeild results for the next 3 drws, but it did have in its confine 9064 and 4918, i entered the first 3 digits. 968. now when i entered 906 it gave the 4918, so the sets, 9683, 9064, 4918 were all winners. they are all related, don't have time, but maybe someone can run a search on those 3 sets and check the dates, and my gues is that behind... [ More ]

Reply #56

lottolaughs — Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:39:12 GMT

Saleenpls,

Another suggestion to help you narrow it down: As you backtest, try to determine if your winning numbers are coming more from the +777 or +888 lines. Just a thought

Reply #55

lottolaughs — Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:26:32 GMT

Hi saleenpls!

Are you using this for pick 3 or 4? Yes, I find the winning numbers all over the place too. So far I haven't come up with a solution to pinpoint exactly where they are coming from or if that will even be possible. It seems to me this would be a great guide to combine with another system you may use, or any other methods you go by to help choose your numbers.

Thanks for writing in and as I study this more, hopefully I'll have some better answers for you

Reply #54

saleenpls — Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:43:51 GMT

I'm getting hits almost everytime doing it 2 different ways, but the numbers are hitting all over the board.

Is there some special technique in picking the numbers you want to use in your daily drawings

Reply #53

winner06 — Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:54:51 GMT

hey lottolaughs i never got yesterdays reply from u, u said u would send me somthing back, i only got the first two but not the last one can u please send it to me

Reply #52

Snakeyes — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:47:39 GMT

I see the same thing LL with Ohio. Actually, I see more one-off's than anything; usually by one digit. I tried to change my number up / down one to see if it made a difference...nope.

Hoping I have some time to monkey with this tomorrow.

Reply #51

Best Picks — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:42:47 GMT

this is great. I don't care if a brick falls off a building, lands at my feet, cracks open and a lottery number is in there. as long as its a winner, i'm not going to ask the question (now just how did that brick land at my feet and crack open?) Bring on the winner.

Reply #50

mazk — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:17:19 GMT

MY Excell is not that great LL ....I thought the formulas went in columns not rows ,maybe that is why I am getting nowhere in P5 tryouts

Reply #49

lottolaughs — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:44:35 GMT

I understand what you are showing,mazk. You are looking at the columns up and down whereas I'm looking at them going across because that's how the formulas are written out so there still has to be some change in the original formulas. I think that's where we're getting our wires crossed.

Reply #48

mazk — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:34:19 GMT

OK LL; let us compare :

using the original sheet ( 777,888 ), and EVE P4 :

MD

9-26 P4 EVE 3933

2371 3148 3925 4702 5479

2482 3370 4258 5146 6034

2281 3058 3835 4612 5389

2392 3280 4168 5056 5944

2291 3068 3845 4622 5399

2402 3290 4178 5066 5954

2371 3148 3925 4702 5479

2482 3370 4258 5146 6034

2281 3058 3835 4612 5389

2392 3280 4168 5056 5944

2291 3068 3845 4622 5399

2402 3290 4178 5066 5954

9-27 P4 MID 0683....BOX HIT !!!!

Changing the 3rd digit in that string 3008....... [ More ]

Reply #47

lottolaughs — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:47:55 GMT

So really we are talking about the formula numbers I am starting out with to arrive at these numbers, those look like they have to be changed. Hmmmm. Now from your other examples they looked like they were working okay for awhile. Did they stop working for you? Are you starting with the mirrors of the drawing that you are punching in? Sorry if I'm a little clueless here, I just want to make sure we are pinpointing the problem.

Reply #46

mazk — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:33:55 GMT

Here is what I am talking about LL:

Using the original sheet :

MD 10-2 P3 MID 279

2247 3024 3801 4578 5355

2358 3246 4134 5022 5910

2257 3034 3811 4588 5365

2368 3256 4144 5032 5920

2267 3044 3821 4598 5375

2378 3266 4154 5042 5930

1950 2727 3504 4281 5058

2061 2949 3837 4725 5613

1960 2737 3514 4291 5068

2071 2959 3847 4735 562... [ More ]

Reply #45

lottolaughs — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:21:37 GMT

Mazk,

You've really been doing your homework I see!

So you are saying that the misses are coming from certain columns? Are they one off, two off? I'm not quite sure I understood your example there.

Seems that should be easy enough to remedy if we just change the formula numbers to one up or one down, something like that?

Have you changed them yourself on the spreadsheet

Reply #44

mazk — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:05:05 GMT

Update on mirroring P3 :

Works in MO :

10-21 MID P3 309 mirrored 854 :

1332 1609 1886 2163 2440

1943 2831 3719 4607 5495

1342 1619 1896 2173 2450

1953 2841 3729 4617 5505

1352 1629 1906 2183 2460

1963 2851 3739 4627 5515

1936 2213 2490 2767 3044

2547 3435 4323 5211 6099

1946 2223 2500 2777 3054

2557 3445 4333 5221 6109

1956 2233 2510 2787 3064

2567 3455 4343 5231 6119

10-22 P4 Midday 0346

10-22 P4 EVE 0453.............. MID EVE Numbers !!!!

They came from the

Reply #43

lottolaughs — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:03:14 GMT

New tip I'm finding out---

If you add +111 to your drawing using lottery math BEFORE you divide by 1.618 it seems to work even better! Try this one out everyone

Reply #42

lottolaughs — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:54:33 GMT

Great suggestion,Snake Eyes! I've also been dividing by 1.618 and finding straights within 3 days using it for pick 3! Nice

Reply #41

Snakeyes — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:20:45 GMT

I have not done more than a one week back test yet however, take the midday or evening pick 3 from the following day and multiply it by 1.618. Take the first three or last three digits and run it through that spreadsheet. I saw a couple of hits in the line up this way, including today's 0146 boxed.

Reply #40

coolmoney — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:09:07 GMT

Please send the system to my private inbox. thank you.

Reply #39

huppy — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:48:33 GMT

hi LL caught you over here,could you kindly send the spread sheet to me again,it came but without the file lol...thanks much.

Reply #38

lottolaughs — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:37:48 GMT

Oh,Surge, bummer! You missed a straight? Ouch!!

Thanks for your compliments, we appreciate it very much. If you find the one digit off thingy keeps happening, let me know which digit it happens the most from. Thanks

Reply #37

Surge — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:30:57 GMT

I must say, I'm very impressed with this system so far. I worked out some Pick 4 numbers today for Ohio. I was just 1 digit off! I came up with 4170, and today's mid draw was 0146. Great system LL and Budward!

I didn't play any evening numbers tonight, and of course 4 of my regular numbers hit, 3 box and 1 straight.... go figure.

Reply #36

lottolaughs — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:14:42 GMT

Mazk,

Thank you for showing your great work here. You've given me a lot of hope for this system! Hope it holds up and that we can improve it to it's highest potential. Looks like you are on YOUR way, at least! Keep up the fantastic job

Reply #35

lottolaughs — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:12:01 GMT

Hello ugfctlr!

Did you PM me your email yet? I will send it to you as soon as I receive it. Thanks.

Reply #34

lottolaughs — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:11:01 GMT

Muchos Gracias, my dear Kola. Thanks for visiting! I still want to get you that Excel Viewer address, I know just the person to ask.

Reply #33

mazk — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:17:48 GMT

They are MO Draw results for Pick 4 :

Sun., Oct. 15, 2006Evening6-5-6-6

and :

Fri., Oct. 20, 2006Evening5-8-1-4

You enter the FIRST 3 DIGITS off that number insted of Pick 3 number,

Here is another example :

OHIO

Monday 10/16/2006 Evening 8,3,0,4................. so you enter 830 in the yellow box, and you get :

1308 1585 1862 2139 2416

1919 2807 3695 4583 5471

1318 1595 1872 2149 2426

1929 2817 3705 4593 5481

1328 1605 1882 2159 2436

1... [ More ]

Reply #32

ugfctlr — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:39:00 GMT

Where can I find this tool? I have been away for a few wekks and am a little behind. Thanksin advance.

Reply #31

Kola — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:36:12 GMT

Great work Lottolaughs and Budward!

From the looks of the results you all are getting, this program is a keeper.

Hope the testing goes extremely well

Reply #30

lottolaughs — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:46:52 GMT

Thanks for the support,Fibonacci. I don't really like to be secretive and haven't been with any of my other systems but a little birdie's telling me to keep my lips sealed on this one. Not a big deal, I mean if it's working then it really shouldn't matter HOW you got the numbers, right? And it's there anyway if anyone wants to tool with it and change it around to make it work better if they can find a way. Everyone's welcome to do with it as they wish.

Reply #29

Fibonacci — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:19:09 GMT

That is wise I think., LL. IAnyone who comes up with a system should keep at least one key/part as a trade secret, even while sharing enough for others to benefit and tweak/improve the system. Especially since I have heard it said here that Big Lottery spies are roaming the board picking our brains in forums and in private messages to stay ahead of the systems so the poor sucker players won't win too much.

Reply #28

lottolaughs — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:11:12 GMT

I see what you're asking, ilovecash! Sorry, but that's my little secret formula that I came up with that I probably won't divulge at this time. No, it's not the mirrors, just something I came up with after much manipulating of the numbers.

Reply #27

ilovecash — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:29:07 GMT

can you do a simple test just to explain this better? say the last pick 3 was 123

Reply #26

Fibonacci — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:17:40 GMT

lOOK AT THE LEFT HAND OF THE SPRTEADSHEET

plus 1 front #

plus 1 back #

backwards

plus 111

plus 1 minus 10

plus 1 plus 10

plus 111

plus 1 minus 10

plus 1 plus 10

Reply #25

ilovecash — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:57:13 GMT

but doesn't explain where 1857 comes from, need more info please.

Reply #24

Surge — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:55:28 GMT

656 is the previous Pick 3 draw. All of the Pick 4 numbers are derived from the previous Pick 3 drawing.

Reply #23

ilovecash — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:36:47 GMT

i'm a little confused, where do you get 6566 to 1857? its not the mirror of the number. do you then just add 1 up or down as well

Reply #22

Fibonacci — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:09:16 GMT

Another TIP!

LL and B...your spreadsheet is one more great tool to help us narrow down those sometime (but less and less) elusive hits.

Here is another tip for users of the spreadhseet.

1. Input previous day's midday and evening picks respectively..

2. Generate yr two sets of pic 4's.

Clue: Duplicate numbers hits in these sets usually point to close upcoming hits.

3. Use LP's fantastic tools or anyway you can and find the repeat pattern pics for your state for the last--3 to... [ More ]

Reply #21

Fibonacci — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:22:30 GMT

You fellow LP-ers are just great! The ideas you come up with. Just awesome!

It's crazy for anyone top be out there playing lotteries without being a member of LP

Reply #20

Rubi 311 — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:13:00 GMT

This is great! Thanks Budward, Lottolaughs and Mazk

Reply #19

mazk — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:43:23 GMT

But it is working ( 277 ) in MO, you have to use the first 3 digits off EVE P4 :

10-15 P4 eve 6566

1857 plus 277 2134 2411 2688 2965 3242

plus 888 2171 2485 2799 3113 3427

1867 plus 277 2144 2421 2698 2975 3252

plus 888 2181 2495 2809 3123 3437

1877 plus 277 2154 2431 2708 2985 3262

plus 888 2191 2505 2819 3133 3447

1857 plus 277 2134 2411 2688 2965 3242

plus 888 2171 2485 2799 3113 3427

1867 plus 277... [ More ]

Reply #18

kayee — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:23:40 GMT

Also, we might have to go more than five numbers to get the winning pick.

Reply #17

kayee — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:07:58 GMT

Wow same day, wish Missouri was that fast. lol but it usually comes within six draws. Now we just have to figure out which number will hit.

Reply #16

budward — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:30:37 GMT

Sure, go ahead and change it. That's why I didn't protect it. We both appreciate you and kayee's input.

Bud

Reply #15

mazk — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:26:08 GMT

Hello Kayee,

The spreadsheet is not protected, all you have to do is double-click on each of the original +777 numbers and change the 777 to 277 in the formula ( kinda manual work but better than Pen and Paper ) and save the NEW Sheet under a different name ( I am assuming that I have LL Budward Permission to do so )

And it does work :

MD 10-20 P3 MID 405

1438 plus 777 1715 1992 2269 2546 2823

plus 888 2326 3214 4102 4990 5878

1448 plus 777 1725 2002 2279 2556 283... [ More ]

Reply #14

kayee — Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:12:39 GMT

Hey lottolaugh, is there anyway to change the plus 777 or plus 888 on the spreadsheet? I only ask because when I wasn't getting anywhere with the 777 or 888 I used 277 (kola's phase number) and I'm getting hits in pick 4 usually within the first 7 numbers. VERY EXCITING. I can do this on paper but it would be really neat if we could change those numbers too. Oh, and I'm using the pick 3 to get the pick 4 numbers. One even came in straight. woohoo

Reply #13

Surge — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:27:53 GMT

Punch in Pick 3 draws where? How do you generate Pick 4 draws from Pick 3 draws

Reply #12

lottolaughs — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:22:07 GMT

How are we doing, testers? It seems to me this spreadsheet needs translating. Here's another tip I'm going to throw out there.

What I've been doing is taking my past drawing and +666 using lottery math.

Now I translate the next 3 drawings that came after by mirroring them which some of you are doing also I gather. But what number are you starting with to test? The original draw or are you mirroring that also before you begin?

Appreciate any feedback. Thanks.

Reply #11

Blackapple — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:22:49 GMT

1261* plus 777 2038 2815 3592 4369 5146

plus 888 2149 3037 3925 4813 5701

1271* plus 777 2048 2825 3602 4379 5156

plus 888 2159 3047 3935 4823 5711

1281 plus 777 2058 2835 3612 4389 5166

plus 888 2169 3057 3945 4833 5721

1261 plus 777 2038 2815 3592 4369 5146

plus 888 2149 3037 3925 4813 5701

1271 plus 777 2048 2825 3602 4379 5156

1271 plus 888 2159 3047 3935 4823 5711

1281 plus 777 2058 2835 3612 4389 5166

1281 plus 888 2169 3057 3945 4833 5721

10-13 P4 MID 2349 .... [ More ]

Reply #10

lottolaughs — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:40:42 GMT

Mazk,

Great backtesting results you're showing us! I'm really surprised it works for pick 4 as well as you showed here. And the idea about the mirroring! This is why I wanted to put this out there, so I could have those fresh eyes finding new and inventive ways to look at the sheet. Awesome tip, mazk! I've been trying that too with some good results. Glad you brought that to our attention. Keep digging and having fun.

Reply #9

lottolaughs — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:35:55 GMT

Sweet Rubi, thanks for testing! You keep us informed now on what other hidden goodies you find

Reply #8

lottolaughs — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:34:32 GMT

Great tips,Fibonacci!

Thanks very much for sharing. As you go along, you may find even more to share with us if you continue to backtest. Looking forward to anything else you may discover!

Thanks again

Reply #7

Rubi 311 — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:43:12 GMT

Great work Mazk! Thanks for the info! Looks good

Reply #6

mazk — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:09:37 GMT

Thank you LL Budward for the spreadsheet , wish you can call it something like : Get Even with the LOTTO sheet :)

From a quick test I did it looks very promissing indeed.

So far I had time to test it in MD and DC using MID P3 as a start up point,and the results speak for themselfs :

MD 10-12 MID P3 060

1261 plus 777 2038 2815 3592 4369 5146

plus 888 2149 3037 3925 4813 5701

1271 plus 777 2048 2825 3602 4379 5156

plus 888 2159 3047 3935 4823 5711

1281 plus 777 2058 2835 36... [ More ]

Reply #5

Rubi 311 — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:00:54 GMT

I'm liking what I see in Illinois! Thanks Lottolaughs and Budward! Keep up the great work! Calling all those who want to help with this masterpiece...get on board

Reply #4

Fibonacci — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:11:05 GMT

THERE IS GENIUS AND BEAUTY IN SIMPLICITY. LL and Budward i think you all may be on to something. Will do further testing but... here is one way I used it to hit NY midday (playing only 47 numbers).

1. Punch in the miday Pick 3 draw for yesterday...generate yr picsk 4s.

2. Copy and paste (1) above into P4 Deflator Tool on LP

3. Punch in the evening draw for yesterday...generate Pick 4's

4. Copy and paste into P4 Deflator tool on Lp

5. Doint results

6. Copy only... [ More ]

Reply #3

lottolaughs — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:47:02 GMT

Instructions for all those testing with the spreadsheet:

So so easy!! Just punch in the drawing you are testing and find the numbers within

the box, either backwards, forwards or 2 digits/skip/3rd digit. You will find a hit in

there within 2 days usually.

When testing pick 4, refer to above and also try punching in your LAST 3 digits, as well. Can use midday drawings as a startoff point also. (Thanks for tip,mazk

Reply #2

lottolaughs — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:55:51 GMT

As always, Rubi, a big you're welcome ! Going to be a blast with you along for the ride!

A special mention here for those of you testing for pick 4---(thank you kayee, for bringing this to my attention)

When testing for pick 4, only enter the first 3 digits of your past drawing to bring up the numbers. It won't compute if you enter 4.

Thanks everyone! Keep the requests coming

Reply #1

Rubi 311 — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:31:45 GMT

Thanks Lottolaughs and Budward! Sounds like fun

Budward and LL's Pick 3/4 System Challenge!

lottolaughs — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:24:48 GMT

Hello everyone!

Recently budward and I came up with a system but have run into a brick wall! Now we are calling on all

who are interested in helping create the ultimate system! We need some fresh eyes to check this one

out and all the input, comments, opinions and observations you can muster up.

Any and all are appreciated!!

Please PM your email to me and I'll send you the spreadsheet.

Thanks so much everyone