20% chance of winning, still play?

Reply #17

guesser — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:00:40 GMT

When you verse it that way, I agree with you 100%.

But nationally, just electing all new members to senate and congress isn't enough if the 'rules' are still in place that pretty much have not changed in forever. If you think sweeping in all new politicians will change everything, I got news for ya: the SAME people will be shoveling just as much money and business to the new folks as they did the former ones, and NOBODY turns down free money, they can't afford to, it's just too easy.... [ More ]

Reply #16

floridian — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:19:03 GMT

Alright let me say another way.

You all are talking about change then why did everyone vote the way they did. WE put the same old hack kneed ideas back in again only with a different name on it, its called Democrat. I guess I do not understand how you folks define change. Is change doing the same thing over and over and over again for the last 60 years and expecting different results. That not change thats the defination of pure insanity.

I am involved in grass roots politics at the co... [ More ]

Reply #15

tntea — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:14:25 GMT

Someone knows. but not Bush.. He is reading scripts.. and he doesn't know the next scene until his fellowmen write it for him..

He isn't a leader... Hopefully, the next writer will help him out a little during the next few years and really fill him in on what is going on.

Or he could just ask his mother. ( or ask my cat...

Reply #14

guesser — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:09:32 GMT

No, we knew something needed to be done 1-2 years ago, but we couldn't DO anything about it until this election.

I'll go out on a limb and say most americans stood behind bush because we thought he had a plan, little did we know he has no real plan at all (in Iraq), does anyone know what our goal is in Iraq ?

I mean beyond 'root out terrorism', how do we do that ? What's the plan

Reply #13

tntea — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:04:41 GMT

Are you saying the new congress will produce less than 20%...? Now that it has made an improvement?

It is way over due for a change in our government. Will be an interesting next two years..

I am only surprised it took the last two years for the people to see something needed to be done..

I knew we as a whole couldn't continue to be ignorant.

Reply #12

Raven62 — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:51:01 GMT

It seems so! LOL! The question was: if you knew you only had a 20% chance of Winning would you still play; if I said: if you knew you had a 80% chance of Winning would you still play, everyone would say yes. Raising the Stakes by playing a game (Russian Roulette) with the same chance of Winning, it would seem no one wanted to play.

Reply #11

guesser — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:32:42 GMT

Raven, he's playing a different version than we are...

Reply #10

Raven62 — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:29:14 GMT

Russian roulette is typically the practice of placing a single round in a revolver, spinning the cylinder and closing it into the firearm without looking, aiming the revolver at one's own head in a suicidal fashion, and pulling the trigger.

Reply #9

guesser — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:12:09 GMT

1) We haven't - the dynamics have changed too much.

2) It depends on what the 'same thing' is.

3) There are few successful lottery players, period. What is your definition of 'successful' ? To some, it's making $3 back on a one dollar ticket, to others, it's winning 5 numbers, to others it's hitting the jackpot. I don't know anyone that is playing the lottery SPECIFICALLY to

win $3.

4) Your opinion, you are entitled to it, I have no problem disagreeing with you, apparently you d... [ More ]

Reply #8

floridian — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:02:20 GMT

Raven62

Nada to all of that If the cylinder has the bullet pointed at your head after you spin it you are s#$t out of luck. Then your odds are zero. For that matter who said anything about playing with one bullet.

Floridian

Reply #7

Raven62 — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:58 GMT

Russian Roulette: is the practice of placing a single round in a revolver, spinning the cylinder and closing it into the firearm without looking, aiming the revolver at one's own head in a suicidal fashion, and pulling the trigger.

Once the cylinder is spun, the weight of the bullet tends to make the cylinder rest with the bullet toward the bottom, thus increasing the odds that the shot taken will be a blank. Therefore, the argument that each hole is equally likely to be under the hammer is c... [ More ]

Reply #6

Raven62 — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:26:35 GMT

That's the point! I didn't say one way or the other, but if the Risk out weighs the odds of Losing (16.6%)/Winning (83.4%) would he still play

Reply #5

floridian — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:20:39 GMT

Depends how many bullets are in the chamber to get the real odds and it could be an automatic so the odds work to your advantage.

I guess Raven62 is an optimist he believes the chamber is 5/6 full of good luck or 8/9 good luck depending on what gun we are talking about.

But one thing for sure I would not play Russian roulette with a Russian.

Floridian

Reply #4

Coin Toss — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:38:20 GMT

Raven62

Using these guidelines would you play Russian Roulette where the odds are 1 in 6 (16.6%)?

Actually, the odds are 5 in 6 in your favor, but that 1 in 6 will really get you.

Reply #3

floridian — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:16:45 GMT

When was the last time we tried it?

Remember the meaning of total insanity, you do the same thing over and over and over again and expect different results.

Their are few successful lottery players who beat a dead horse.

By the way guy apathy is old hat. It doesn't work anymore either. The apathy bit has been done to death for at least 60 years that I am aware of.

Floridian

Reply #2

Raven62 — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:22:28 GMT

Using these guidelines would you play Russian Roulette where the odds are 1 in 6 (16.6

Reply #1

guesser — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:02:40 GMT

Do you think if we dumped everyone out of Congress that this percentage would change much ?

By what, 10% maybe ? To 30% ?

I am apathetic in that I feel no matter who gets elected they will only serve in their own best interests, because that is how the political system is now, and has been for 26 years (or longer). Once you get into a position where folks just shovel money your way - in politics OR business - it is IMPOSSIBLE to turn it down. And if you think otherwise, you are

20% chance of winning, still play?

floridian — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:27:51 GMT

If you really knew for sure that you had less than a 20% chance of winning ever, would you still play? I did not say win 20% of the time, I said less than a 20% chance of winning anything.

This is a Lotto question and a political question. Because the 20% number is how the American people for the last 7 or 8 plus years have rated the United States Congress as a meaningful body of government that acts in their best interest.

If your answer is yes to my question you are going to love the n... [ More ]