If Your State Pre-Test's its Draws List it here

Reply #32

amsoly41 — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:24:34 GMT

This is the Response that I got

The Tennessee Lottery currently does not have a link to results of the pretest drawing. We appreciate your suggestion for possible future implementation

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How do we find the results of the pretest drawings?

I would like to know what they are.

Can I get them emailed or can I call dailey for results

Reply #31

LOTTOMIKE — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:56:23 GMT

went and bought some ping pong balls and paper bags and did my own draws for hours last night and i got a quad

Reply #30

Stack47 — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:18:26 GMT

You need the test draw data if you want to predict which digits will be drawn in the next test.

Reply #29

lotterybraker — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:12:54 GMT

A.=I already know what is in the Can before it is opened..0-9..in fact..that is in EVERY CAN ..I dont need to look any further than that..

Too bad, boo hoo.Even if the lottery releases all of the data, including which machines and which balls are used for previous drawings and tests you will never know which machine and balls will be used for a drawing that hasn't happened yet. If you think that measuring enough cans of fruit tail will give you some special insight onto what might come... [ More ]

Reply #28

four4me — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:14:42 GMT

I gonna jump back in this thread again. When they select the balls for the various drawings and run pre tests. It will do nothing for you to have at that information. The main reason is they rarely use the same balls from drawing to drawing. They aren't going to tell you which ball sets they are using for a particular drawing. If they rotate the ball sets for every draw. By the end of the month you would be left with hundreds of pre test results that will in no way help you determine a winner.... [ More ]

Reply #27

Guru101 — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:49:55 GMT

I agree with four4me and KY Floyd. Random is random. Who cares if there is pretests? If it's random, it doesn't matter.

Reply #26

KY Floyd — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:29:37 GMT

I think you are missing the main point here

I haven't missed anything. The pre-tests do absolutely nothing to change the outcome of the drawing, which for those who have forgotten, is supposed to be random. Basically, you're complaining that you don't get all of the data, which makes it harder to guess what the results might be. Too bad, boo hoo.Even if the lottery releases all of the data, including which machines and which balls are used for previous drawings and tests you will never know... [ More ]

Reply #25

Ms5PennieGen — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:42:53 GMT

Lotterybraker, I so agree with your strategy. Triple 999 has shown up in pretest through the years but never in actual drawing. We haven't had a triple since Oct. yet triples have shown in pretest. Many times I have seen my predictions show up in the pre-test and I had already played the numbers. I think you are on to something with your strategy! Good luck

Reply #24

lotterybraker — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:04:49 GMT

The statistician they use (and there's a reason they use a statistician and not just somerun of the mill government bureaucrat) won't think 1,2,3,4,5 means there's a problem, but what if he did? If it's a pre-test it doesn't matter whether or not they think there's a problem. It's a test and the outcome doesn't determine the winning numbers. Your combination turning up in the pre-test is exactly like a combination you didn't play coming up in the real drawing: you don't win. Simple as that, and... [ More ]

Reply #23

sook7b — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:28:39 GMT

hi, does ky. pretest

Reply #22

KY Floyd — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:14:07 GMT

Reply #21

lotterybraker — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:55:59 GMT

Miss Bee..I would HIGHLY SUGGEST to you to obtain those pre-test results if you can get them..I think they will be a valuable source of information for you when you do your workouts..because lets face the facts..everyone knows there are hot digits..hot pairs..and even hot combos..but there has to be cold digits..cold pairs and cold combos also to make things balance out..if you have chosen a cold anything and it shows or has shown in the pre-test..it may be a while before you see it again..and I... [ More ]

Reply #20

Miss Bee — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:43:15 GMT

Tennesseeottery reply to my email.

Thank you for your interest in the Tennessee Lottery. Results of pretest draws are not availble daily. However, results for pretest drawings can be made available to you, upon request, on a monthly basis. In addition, you are welcome to make arrangements through the Tennessee Lottery to view a live drawing at News Channel 2 studios in Nashville.

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Reply #19

four4me — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:38:08 GMT

the idea behind pretest is to assure that the same digits don't come up over and over again repeatedly. To rule out tampering. And to assure equipment is functioning properly.

In many cases it is also done so new lottery attendants can familiarize the 2 minute episode that will take place live on air.

don't try and say that pre tests ruin the outcome of a draw. the on air drawing is the only draw that matters. they could run pre test for 5 hrs if they wanted to... in the end the official... [ More ]

Reply #18

Miss Bee — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:06:07 GMT

For Tenn. I forgot to add they also do 3 pretest after each drawing, So that is 6 total for each drawing 3 before and 3 after.

Reply #17

amsoly41 — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:41:20 GMT

I know on the Main Power Ball website

when you click on the Powerball Numbers Link (in the upper lefthand cornner)

under the numbers you will see a box that says

Every attempt is made to ensure that this list of numbers is accurate, the official winning numbers are recorded in the official draw files as certified by an independent accounting firm. Winning numbers are not official until confirmed by the auditing firm of LWBJ, LLP. Click here if you are having trouble s... [ More ]

Reply #16

Wintariofan — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:01:11 GMT

In Ontario, no pre-testing is done with the real sets of balls. If OLG/OLC needed to test a game or its equipment they would use a set of practice balls, usually an old set that doesn't meet up to the OLG/OLC's stringent regulations. That would be a ball set that is out a few grams of one another and can not be used in the games any longer.

If they did pretesting with the real set and called it a pre-test, the gaming public could/should argue that the combination are the real winning num... [ More ]

Reply #15

pacattack05 — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:57:55 GMT

I used to like ball draws until I found the ugly truth behind the masquerade. I started to lean towards a computer picking the numbers. Sure...people say it can be tampered with. Oh really? Are they saying that the shuffle of balls and tubes and pre-tests isn't defined as tampering? All for the sake of not having mishaps occur during a live drawing? What makes anyone think that mishaps can't happen after a test. It's like saying...OH okay...now that we got this possible mishap out of the way, th... [ More ]

Reply #14

lotterybraker — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:34:33 GMT

you are absolutely right Pacattack05...

Reply #13

pacattack05 — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:29:12 GMT

I've been talking about pre-tests and the tube shuffle for years now. What a bunch of greedy crooks they are.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/151081.htm?q=pretests rp=search get=775236

Reply #12

justxploring — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:14:14 GMT

..AND THEY THINK that has never came out..actuallymay or may not have came out in a pre-test bothers me.

Moi aussi!! Maybe my strategy has been really wrong. For all I know, all 4 of my combinations have been drawn at one time or another

Reply #11

lotterybraker — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:11:07 GMT

the idea that some people play the same numbers all the time that has never hit a straight bothers me also..to think that those numbers they have been playing a long time..AND THEY THINK that has never came out..actuallymay or may not have came out in a pre-test bothers me..I dont think that is Random anymore..that is Numerical Manipulation..in actuality there is no telling how long it takes to complete an actual sequence for digits and pairs because they have screwed up the natural process..eve... [ More ]

Reply #10

JADELottery — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:38:58 GMT

An independent statistician reviews all results of pre-test draws and actual draws to further ensure ongoing randomness. The statistician and the Lottery's Internal Audits Office keep track of draw results to make sure no numbers come up more often than they should -- statistically speaking!

Interesting, this part of the statement, come up more often than they should , implies a level of predictability.

Reply #9

RJOh — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:38:00 GMT

I would think all state pretest, I can't imagine any state having a live drawing with no idea of how their equipment is working. Whether they post them or not, all states pretest their drawing equipment.

Just last week Ohio couldn't complete a drawing on its TV show because a ball got stucked in the chute, I'm sure they had pretests to avoid such incidents happening during the live show.

Reply #8

ZEN — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:37:21 GMT

Hello LP Members,

Does anyone know about ILLINOIS??? Or how I can find out?? Also, will they give the info on how many ball sets they have?? (any past threads??)

thanks,

ZEN

Reply #7

lotterybraker — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:18:29 GMT

In addition to the daily random-number pre-tests conducted by the draw manager and independent auditor, the Lottery s security division also conducts monthly checks on the system to ensure randomness

Kayee..you should call them and ask this guy where are the damn numbers at..lol

Reply #6

kayee — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:16:08 GMT

I also sent the MO lottery an email requesting a copy of pretest numbers. We'll see if they bother to respond.

Reply #5

lotterybraker — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:28:32 GMT

yeah..I kinda figured as much..They dont want anyone to be able to accurately track numbers and get an advantage that will cost them some money..that is all bull crap..they are intentionally messing up the NATURAL ORDER of arrangement of the numbers so you cant get track anything with consistence...There is no telling how many times we all have had the right numbers selected only to have them show in the pretest and lose money because of them idiots..

Then they will tell you we have to check

Reply #4

Miss Bee — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:06:51 GMT

Tennessee has 3 pretest draws for cash 3 and 3 for cash4 before each drawing, I have emailed asking how I can get the results, no answer as of yet. I will email again.

Reply #3

kayee — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:03:10 GMT

I got this off the Missouri lottery site.

In addition to the daily random-number pre-tests conducted by the draw manager and independent auditor, the Lottery s security division also conducts monthly checks on the system to ensure randomness

Man, no wonder it's so hard to get anything in MO. They pretest every day and have monthly checks. I wonder how many numbers we lose to these pretest? Plus they use three different computers.

Reply #2

justxploring — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:43:10 GMT

Just out of curiosity I used Google and got this from the Calif Lottery FAQs. I am highlighting in red what really bothers me about the claim that pre-tests ensure randomness. Are they saying that a HUMAN makes a decision on what he thinks looks kosher? I mean, what if your numbers are 1-2-3-4-5-6 and he thinks that's unbelievable or the number 25 is drawn 5 consecutive times. So what? Isn't that what random means, that is, anything can happen.

From Wikipedia: Random: used to expres... [ More ]

Reply #1

bobby623 — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:00:13 GMT

Add Texas

4 combinations for Pick 3, Texas Two Step and Cash5.

6 combinations for Lotto Texas.

Mega Millions folks don't have pretests. They have a formula they use to determine if the balls are being picked on a random basis.

The pretests are posted before the actual drawing, but not soon enough for anyone to use the data in any analysis they might be doing.

If Your State Pre-Test's its Draws List it here

lotterybraker — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:12:25 GMT

I would like to know what other states that pre-test their draws and puts those pre-tests results on their website..I want to do a little more research on this...