Straight Into The Heart Of "Absolute Versatility": Part II

Reply #48

JAP69 — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:21:32 GMT

A 012

B 3456

C 789____

AA 00 11 22 01 02 12

BB 33 44 55 66 34 35 36 45 46 56

CC 77 88 99 78 79 89

AB 03 04 05 06 13 14 15 16 23 24 25 26

AC 07 08 09 17 18 19 27 28 29

BC 37 38 39 47 48 49 57 58 59 67 68 69

When dealing with the pairs we have in any letter combination there are 3 ways they can hit exact order. Exact order is what we are working with here.

They can hit by position 12x 1x3 and x23.

So if I take the letter combination A B

AB 03 04 05 06 13... [ More ]

Reply #47

JAP69 — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:02:34 GMT

I put most of my posting work on wordpad which has a coloring option. So after I have done my work I copy and paste to my post.

I had something else to add here today and forgot about it until I pulled up my wordpad.

I watch the lottery pairs in the letter pairs. They will make a cycle and then move on to another letter pair.

The more lottery pairs in a letter pair combination the more frequent that letter pair may be drawn.

A 012

B 3456

C 789____

AA 00 11 22 01 02 1... [ More ]

Reply #46

JAP69 — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:28:39 GMT

Disregard that last post everyone.

After you post you have a 20 minute window to delete your post.

Or there is an edit button for your post. I think they are both 20 minutes.

The delete button in the bar.

Reply #45

Grumple Dumple — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:04:54 GMT

Disregard that last post everyone.

Jap69, I followed your tips but my colors are still misbehaving.

Maybe it's not meant to be.

Anyway, disregard that last post because you'll get the wrong idea about the idea(s) I am trying to get across.

Reply #44

Grumple Dumple — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:01:24 GMT

ABA

CBB

ABA

AAC

ACB

BCB

BBC

CBB

******

ABA

CBB

ABA

AAC

ACB

BCB

BBC

CBB

In the topmost example:

Two progressions are accomodated (Both are to be perceived moving from bottom upwards.):

In the left column (illustrated in red):

ABA

CBB

BBC (bottom upwards)

In the right column (illustrated in blue):

CBB

ABA

BBC

(bottom upwards)

Notice that the red C and the blue A are each an instance of the first appearance princi... [ More ]

Reply #43

Grumple Dumple — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:52:31 GMT

Hi again Jap69.

Following your posts in this thread with interest.

I would be interested in knowing (if it isn't a closely guarded secret with you that is) exactly what today's lottery software is capable of analyzing with regard to the Pick 3 (and 4) type games.

Exactly what aspects of the drawings is it analyzing?

I am wondering if it makes analyses for each single column in relation to the other two; for any two columns in relation to the third; for all three columns -- and how is... [ More ]

Reply #42

JAP69 — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:04:08 GMT

Separating mid and eve draws may show a whole different ball game.

All my previous post are mid and eve combined.

Reply #41

JAP69 — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:59:26 GMT

That 27 refers to these combinations -- right?:

AAA AAB AAC ABA ABB ABC ACA ACB ACC BAA BAB BAC BBA BBB BBC BCA BCB BCC CAA CAB CAC CBA CBB CBC CCA CCB CCC

The amount of exact plays is determined by how many lottery numbers are in each position.

AAA has 3 lottery nubers per position. Makes 27 exact plays

BBB has 4 lottery numbers per position. Makes 64 exact plays

ABC has 3 in two positions and 4 in one position. Makes 36 plays

multipication of the amount of numbers per posit... [ More ]

Reply #40

JAP69 — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:50:07 GMT

As I see it each lottery number in a group will have its own cycle.

Look over each lottery number in The S.C. game.

I am not going to put a lot of text.

The drawn numbers speak for themselves.

I put the A 012 side by side. The list if numbers were started on the same date

A 012

B 3456

C 789____

__0_______1________2________

_075 ACB__841 CBA__329 BAC__

_083 ACB__174 ACB__526 BAB__

_990 CCA__811 CAA__892 CCA__

_140 ACA__163 ABB__792 CCA__

_820 CAA__1... [ More ]

Reply #39

Grumple Dumple — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:17:29 GMT

A few more are displayed along with the ones in the last post.

456

696

284

323

240

810

196

680

331

057

281

733

180

150

726

657

244

410

-----

(Abbreviations: LC = Left Column, MC = Middle Column, RC = Right Column)

MC

696 BCB

323 BAB

-----

196 ACB

726 CAB

****

MC

696 BCB

240 ABA

-----

810 CAA

726 CAB

****

MC

696 BCB

240 ABA

-----

196 ACB

331 BBA

****

LC

323 BAB

240... [ More ]

Reply #38

Grumple Dumple — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:17:40 GMT

An attempt to explain some of my problems with understanding the phenomenon.

Let's say that this single drawing occurs:

475

In the left column that 4 (or that B if you prefer) in the 475 is going to be arrived at through all these relationships approaching it:

Left column:

A

A

B (4)

----

A

B

B (4)

----

A

C

B (4)

----

B

A

B (4)

----

B

B

B (4)

----

B

C

B (4)

---

C

A

B (4)

---

C

B

B (4... [ More ]

Reply #37

Grumple Dumple — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:17:26 GMT

Here's a little bit of something for Curious, Kayee and Jap69:

323

240

810

196

680

331

057

281

733

All from left column:

323

240

810

733

-----

323

810

680

733

-----

323

680

331

733

in ABC form (if you like):

BAB

ABC

CAA

CBB

-------

BAB

CAA

BCA

CBB

-------

BAB

BCA

BBA

CBB

I tend to call those sequences.

Look them over.

Reply #36

Grumple Dumple — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:17:01 GMT

Jap69, I'm not going to lie to you -- much of what you have said in your posts seems pretty much over my head. I think part of it is that my brain has been hemorraging numbers for the last many years and I have thought of them only in terms of the phenomenon, so I guess it is very difficult for me to easily integrate new ideas into my understanding. But I am trying to understand your ways of working with the numbers. I am paying attention.

From earlier posts of yours:

What I think you are... [ More ]

Reply #35

JAP69 — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:49:29 GMT

Grumple Dumple

Numbers in groups will have hit skip data by position. We are doing it visually here but I can set up my software for positional tracking to search any lottery number combinations up to four numbers per position at one time to see what the hit skip is for any particular group. Wether it is a group that is what we track or a group I can create on the spot.

Like position one I could search the 1905 or the 9054 or I could do just the 01 or just the 1.

Pencil and paper is f... [ More ]

Reply #34

JAP69 — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:49:14 GMT

I would like to make a point here on using this method of play.

This is what I call exact order wheeling.

When wheeling exact order with this method using numbers in groups and using all the numbers in the exact wheel can create as few as 27 exact plays or as many plays as you desire depending on how many numbers you put in each position.

This system of exact order can be costly playing a large field of numbers exact order.

If you do not have a bank roll to cover your losses or can n... [ More ]

Reply #33

JAP69 — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:05:18 GMT

You could keep track of your lottery numbers and code letters something like this.

Longest out is on the left to current drawn on the right. Just enter your next drawn number on the right in each position and delete on the left where that lottery number and code letter is.

You will get a visual how the lottery numbers and code letters are bunched up or spread out.

A 012

B 3456

C 789

You can also look at your column stacks of drawn numbers.

From the looks of position one

Reply #32

JAP69 — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:50:09 GMT

To be on the same wave lenght for the discussion here I am using your number groups with the A B C.

What I am looking for when I do columns I am looking for the cycle and repetition of a group of lottery numbers.

Actual lottery numbers in columns have a tendency to run in groups in a column for a bit and then break to a new group at varied intervals. The new group may continue on a run in that column or it may not.

I use software to track the groups in their column(s) so I have an idea what... [ More ]

Reply #31

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:54:18 GMT

You have my permission to offer anything that is potentially helpful.

Reply #30

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:53:14 GMT

Hi kayee.

Can you give us an example using numbers.

Yes, I will do that. I will show some progressions going in both directions using real numbers in real drawings. It is important to me to point out at the same time some of the particular difficulties I have been having with it as I do that.

So give me some time on that.

I'll have to put reference numbers in front of the drawings so that I can then point out which intervals to go to. (I don't think that I can depend on using colo... [ More ]

Reply #29

JAP69 — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:40:09 GMT

I was hoping to eventually reach a point in which anyone who wanted to help me could work with me on some actual Pick 3 type lottery results. It's possible that any number of people could offer suggestions on the fly that just might prove to be solutions to some of the problems I'm having with the phenomenon. I mean, it might just be a fresh pair of eyes that will see some of these solutions.

I do not know how much you have ciphered out with your number groups. I could post some things I h... [ More ]

Reply #28

JAP69 — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:26:47 GMT

I don't get the 1 2 and 5 references, but to the right are Pick 3 and 4 type numbers I'm assuming.

the 1 2 and 5 are the numbers I use to identify each group.

I track my draw results in software and I need to use numbers for the groups.

All numbers to the right are the lottery numbers.

______________________________________________

coloring your numbers or letters.

I do not know what you are doing but this is the way I do it.

If you are coloring the A'S. Hi-lite the first A g... [ More ]

Reply #27

kayee — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:54:51 GMT

Can you give us an example using numbers. I don't know about anyone else but it would sure help me. I get what you're saying about A=012 ect. but that doesn't make A only one number to worry about cause there are still three numbers that equal A. And how do you know when A is the first appearance cause 01and 2 come out all the time so how far do you go back to find A

Reply #26

Curious2k3 — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:48:39 GMT

I sent you a PM Grumple.

Reply #25

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:49:58 GMT

Hello Omniscient.

I wish it was as simple as seeing this occur in any last two drawings:

BBC

ABA

and then expecting that the CBB will appear the very next drawing to complete and balance it.

It doesn't work that way. AV is following it's own particular logic. All the progressions are very specific.

It is only occassionally that you will find the three that are needed to balance and complete the progression occurring in three consecutive drawings.

If I could just get those... [ More ]

Reply #24

Omniscient — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:23:59 GMT

Hi all...

Maybe you can clarify this for me ...

A=0,1,2

B=3,4,5,6

C=7,8,9

Last nights Pick 3 # in FL was 658

6 = B

5 = B

8 = C

Does this mean that ABA or CBB number combos may come out ?

For some reason, I see 892 and/or 594 coming out for tonight..oh well.

The 9 is a predominant # for tonights FL pick3... just feels right. Perhaps I should wheel 89254 and use those 10 combos...

Getting off-topic ,sorry ... Will review this more and see if I can put this puzz... [ More ]

Reply #23

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:12:47 GMT

Just disregard the last post.

It's not only the B's with the incorrect colors -- there are some other incorrect colors as well throughout.

You won't understand the idea(s) correctly that I am trying to show you with all those wrong colors.

If anybody has any ideas about how to correct for the incorrect colors let me know.

Reply #22

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:03:50 GMT

A B A

C B B

A B A

A A C

A C B

B C B

B B C

C B B

********

A B A

C B B

A B A

A A C

A C B

B C B

B B C

C B B

Two examples of different progressions occurring within the same span of numbers:

In the first example (at the very top) you will notice a progression occurring (illustrated in red in the extreme left column) and another progression occurring (illustrated in blue in the extreme right column). Both of those are to be perceived from the bot... [ More ]

Reply #21

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:45:12 GMT

If I can, tomorrow I'll try to redo that fiasco with the formatting problems for the sake of clarifying what I had intended.

See ya everyone.

Reply #20

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:41:14 GMT

Your welcome.

Jap69, that is impressive just to look at.

I don't get the 1 2 and 5 references, but to the right are Pick 3 and 4 type numbers I'm assuming.

I don't mean to be nosey though.

Reply #19

JAP69 — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:25:23 GMT

Thanks for posting your letter to number conversion.

I do work with numbers in groups. But I grouped mine differently for my own reasons.

For a three number group I use this. I use a number to represent a group.

1____1-3-6-8

2____024

5____579

I also do a four number group keeping the even odd and high low numbers in their own group.

Reply #18

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:16:22 GMT

You are very welcome.

Reply #17

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:15:45 GMT

Now, anytime that you see the digit 3 in the Pick 3 or 4 it is now every bit as much a 4, 5 or a 6; a 4 is every bit as much as a 3, 5,or a 6: a 5 is every bit as much as a 3, 4 or a 6; a 6 is every bit as much as a 3, 4 or a 5.

Among those 4 digits (3, 4, 5 and 6) there is only one to worry about now.

The single letter A represents either a 0, 1 or a 2 occurring.

The single letter B represents either a 3, 4, 5 or 6 occurring.

The single letter C represents either a 7, 8, or 9 occ... [ More ]

Reply #16

kayee — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:11:43 GMT

Thank you

Reply #15

kayee — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:04:59 GMT

that's what I was asking too! I'm really trying to get this but with the letters instead of numbers I'm just not getting it.

Reply #14

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:01:28 GMT

I grouped them from the very beginning in this way:

A (012)

B (3456)

C (789)

There are now only three numbers to worry anything about.

Reply #13

JAP69 — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:14:19 GMT

Could I ask what numbers each letter represents

Reply #12

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:01:09 GMT

Hi kayee.

Very good question.

When I encountered the phenomenon and started working with it, I quite naturally worked with all 10 numbers (0-9).

I saw the presence of AV (tired of typing it out every time) and could follow it in glimpses.

Working with 10 numbers as you might expect was more difficult but it had been under those very circumstances of working with 10 that I saw the presence of the phenomenon.

This went on for a time and then for a reason I cannot recall (this was

Reply #11

kayee — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:09:13 GMT

Why don't you just use REAL numbers.

Reply #10

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:08:35 GMT

I need a break!

I'll see if I can correct those problems somehow!

Be back when I can.

Reply #9

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:59:39 GMT

The following progression (one illustrated in red and another in blue) are meant to be perceived from the direction of bottom moving upward:

ABA

CBB

ABA

AAC

ACB

BCB

BBC

CBB

The following progression (illustrated in green) is meant to be perceived in a downward direction (right column dominates though technically the middle does too):

ABA

CBB

ABA

AAC

ACB

BCB

BBC

CBB

This aint' working! The red B's in the middle column at top are supposed... [ More ]

Reply #8

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:53:53 GMT

Sorry, I seem to be having problems formatting correctly.

I notice it when I use colors.

Anyway, it is important to get both groups on the screen if you can to look at the different progressions.

They are the same letters (numbers) in both cases.

Reply #7

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:27:37 GMT

The following progression (one illustrated in red and another in blue) are meant to be perceived from the direction of bottom moving upward:

ABA

CBB

ABA

AAC

ACB

BCB

BBC

CBB

Did you note the first occurrence of the C in the extreme left column as well as the first occurrence of the A in the extreme right column?

And did you also note that in each case the necessary letter and its buddies (in the accompanying columns) then appeared to complete and... [ More ]

Reply #6

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:21:09 GMT

Just a thought I wanted to get out while it was clear in my head.

Let's say there was an occurrence of an AAA in the drawings.

All of the progressions you see below were leading straight to it in their own particular logical ( intelligent ) sequences coming in from both directions. All of them spread out in particular and definite intervals. All variations were accomodated (undoubtedly over a long span of drawings).

That's just for an AAA.

AAA

AAA

AAA

----

AAB

AAC... [ More ]

Reply #5

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:20:47 GMT

Hi Jap69.

Yes.

Each column is a single separate unit.

However, each single column depends on the presence of the other two.

And any two columns depend on that all-important third.

That's why Absolute Versatility (yes, I'm sick of that phrase too) can be present.

That's why the phenomenon exists.

Regards.

Reply #4

JAP69 — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:43:59 GMT

I understand what you have said.

Try focusing on each column as a separate unit from the others.

Lottery numbers are drawn from separate chambers for each position in the pick 3 and 4 when they have ball drawn games.

Each position acts in its own particular way from the others.

Reply #3

Curious2k3 — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:18:29 GMT

Hello Grumple,

Yes, I have been trying to work with them in all columns and yes, both directions which has caused numerous difficulties. I have seen straight hits 2 weeks in advance, sometimes more. While on the other hand, the immediate (or in progress) progression that reacts with and to it's current siblings , sends a flurry of activity somewhat like a bloodhound on a scent...(if you will).

Needless to say, many a head scratches have been performed. I believe with the proper tuning... [ More ]

Reply #2

Grumple Dumple — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:06:07 GMT

Hello again Curious.

Wow! I was taken aback again.

I identified with your cascading progressions reference totally.

I was wanting to ask you (if it is not giving too much away):

Do you work with these cascading progressions from all columns and going in both directions? or is it different?

Very interested Curious.

Regards.

Reply #1

Curious2k3 — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:56:46 GMT

Quite interesting Grumple. Indeed, there are many paths to a number...albeit the correct one. Recently I have noticed cascading progressions , kind of difficult to keep track of to say the least.

I have also noticed that each subset, or phase of numbers belongs to 3 previous (perhaps more) legitimate progressions, and they also belong to the 4-6 forthcoming progressions. I'm sure this could be narrowed down, but as you said, it's quite an undertaking.

I agree with your liguid comment as w... [ More ]

Straight Into The Heart Of "Absolute Versatility": Part II

Grumple Dumple — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:18:27 GMT

I wanted very much for someone to notice the presence of one thing particularly. Maybe some of you did -- but none of you said so. It is present in both examples.

Let's use the first example I had presented originally:

B B A

B C B B A C

X X X

X X X

X X X

A B B

C B C

X X X

X X X

X X X

X X X

A A A

C C A

Let's begin then:

B B A, B C B and what indeed would be required to complete or balance it? That's right. B A C. Look at those top three rows very cl... [ More ]