Someone explain...

Reply #26

psykomo — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:28:57 GMT

four4me:

I never buy scratch-offs...................>>>>>>>>BUT, thanks to U ^

I will try a FEW for me and the cat...$$$$$$$$$OD , jest for LUCK!

I agree w/U.................can use all the LOL I can GET>>>>>>>>>>

IT may HELP pay for this KAT's feed bill HE may be LOL to ME too!

PSYKOMO

Reply #25

four4me — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:35:06 GMT

PAC the jokes on you Todd didn't post that

Reply #24

pacattack05 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:23:49 GMT

Sorry Todd.....I should've known better...

Please splain Lucy....

Reply #23

jarasan — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:08:10 GMT

Please post in the proper forum.

<moved to the proper forum> mathematics

<jarasan

Reply #22

DoubleDown — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:00:25 GMT

Crystal.

Reply #21

pacattack05 — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:31:59 GMT

That's correct. Here's the zeltex converter equation proponent, and exponent division .

$$\bf\int H(x,x')\psi(x')dx' = -\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{d^2}{dx^2} \psi(x)+V(x)\psi(x)$$ And this is what you get:

H(x,x )y(x )dx = - (h/2p)2

2m

d2

dx2

y(x)+V(x)y(x)

Consider, for example, a pair of equations x' = f(x,y,t), y' = g(x,y,t)

(where ' = d/dt). Suppose you want to eliminate y. Differentiate the

first equation and you have

x = f_1 x... [ More ]

Reply #20

DoubleDown — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:39:15 GMT

I see what you mean, Pac:

Now, basically the only new principle involved is

that instead of power being generated by the

relative motion of conductors and fluxes, it's produced

by the modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and

capacitive diractance.

Reply #19

pacattack05 — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:53:02 GMT

Depending on the overall odds of a 5% ratio difference within the 1 in 30 odds is sufficient in remeding both games whether any conclusion was made by the original 17% reduction. Also many of the overall odds are wagered by the games designer to proport an allocation of identical parameters, within a borderline of + or - 5 differnce through that particular prize structure inference.

If the payouts are 1/20 of the sub version of the old rules, then you would have to adjust the 12.6 percent va... [ More ]

Reply #18

KY Floyd — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:30:41 GMT

I didn't miss your point, I said I think it was wrong. The only objective way to decide which game is better is to look at the overall odds of winning, and/or how much is paid out for each dollar wagered, but that's not how you judged the game. You also did'n't consider what prizes had already been claimed or which ones were still available. You say one of the two games is a sucker bet based on the odds of winning one particular prize, but you're actually about 5% more likely to win something in... [ More ]

Reply #17

KyMystikal — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:38:05 GMT

I was always told that if you wanted to win the Powerball you needed to play in WI

Reply #16

KyMystikal — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:35:41 GMT

Don't be jealous, TN pays the same. Those pay outs were for KY. I play pick 3 in KY and pick 4 in TN. Reason?? KY obviously has higher payout on Pick 3, and for the Pick 4 TN doesn't tax lottery winnings so I am told. I live on the border to both states.

Reply #15

Badger — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:53:32 GMT

HOO ! You'r saying you won $9,000 on a one dollar ticket ? !

There's no way that WI would ever have a 9 grand prize on a buck ticket ! I can't figure.....not just MD, but seems like all the other states are so much more generous than Wisconsin when it comes to payoffs. Seems like WI hates having to payout anything.

Belated congrats

Reply #14

four4me — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:53:58 GMT

I rarely buy scratch offs and usually only when i have won money playing pick 3 or 4.

one day i walked into a place and bought a 1.00 scratch of cause i thought the game was cool if you scratched 3 cats you won that prize. The first ticket was a looser. only had two cats i thought what the heck give me another one. The second ticket had 3 cats a 9 grand winner.

You just never know when it's going to happen. A co worker and his family were at a birthday dinner he bought his wife a scratch... [ More ]

Reply #13

Badger — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:01:31 GMT

Yeah that's exactly my point. Once I looked at the odds on the back of the ticket it made me wonder why anyone would waste a dollar on it when they could have smaller odds against them for a larger prize by just picking three digits at random straight on Pick 3.

BTW I'm jealous. TN pays pretty good for Pick 3 according to your post. WI only pays $80 for a 6-way box (with $1 bet) and $160 for a 3-way box (with $1 bet)

Whenever I follow the wiing outlays on the WI Lottery site, to see how... [ More ]

Reply #12

RJOh — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:29:51 GMT

I think most scratch-off players assume each ticket can win a decent prize and don't bother to check their odds or if the top prizes have already been claimed. Finding three like figures to win a prize is all they want to know because it's simple and easy to understand. Having to know more just complicates the process and increase their chances of throwing away a winner.

I've seen players ask a clerks what's selling for a dollar or two and proceed to pick a bunch of tickets randomly from se... [ More ]

Reply #11

KyMystikal — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:25:19 GMT

I don't do scratch off, but maybe people play them for excersize. I don't play them because the odds of winning to me is too high for the money they pay out. If I play a pick 3 6 way box which pays 100. my odds are 1:166, a 3 way box which pays 200. is 1:333, and a straight odds are 1:1000 why waste money on a scratch off which has odds of 1:48000

Reply #10

BobP — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:34:13 GMT

I think you missed the point of the example. The game with a $100. top prize was twice as hard to win the $100. as the game with $100. as its third prize. 1 in 8,000 is much worse then 1 in 4,000 no math involved and besides that, the player has a abet tiny shot at two larger prizes at no additional cost to play. With the choice being one of the two games it is very clear which is the better bet. The lottery has no obligation to structure every scratch off game the same changing only the pri... [ More ]

Reply #9

RJOh — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:56:39 GMT

MOOLA TRIPLER

1:3.8

PRIZE ODDS ARE

$1 1:8

$2 1:12

$3 1:36

$6 1:71

$18 1:300

$50 1:915

$100 1:48,000

With those odds, if the state sold 48000 tickets for $1 each they would have 12329 winners with a payout of:

1 x $100 = $100

52 x $50 = $2600

267 x $18 = $4806

676 x $6 = $4056

1333 x $3 = $3999

4000 x $2 = $8000

6000 x $1 = $6000

_________________

Total = $29561 or *61.6% pay back which is better than most lottery games.

*with a more officiated calculation th... [ More ]

Reply #8

Badger — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:59:56 GMT

Please state the state the GAME U >>>>>>>>>>>>>>DESCRIBE!!

See 4forme's post, above. That's the game and those are the odds.

Reply #7

Badger — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:58:09 GMT

Whether you've only got $2 and you're hoping the lottery will

buy you lunch or you'd like to pick up a little extra cash,

Fun Money is clearly the sucker bet

Yuppers....a person would be better off throwing away their dollar on a PB QP. The PB odds are much much greater, but its the same dollar, and the potential return is much better.

I guess interest in scratch offs as a regular activity is just something I don't comprehend. I sometimes see people (mostly guys) that look like they aren... [ More ]

Reply #6

Badger — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:50:43 GMT

While odds are always interesting the fact is there could be 3 different winning amounts on three tickets in a row and then no winners for 30 more tickets sold.

Sure, and you could go ten tickets in a row without a winner easily. And you could hit two days in a row on the Pick 3. My point is, is if you're going to spend your dollar, why spend it on something that is 48 times harder to get and then if you do manage to hit it, you get 80% less of a payoff? (i.e. the scratch off ticket vs a r... [ More ]

Reply #5

jarasan — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:56:53 GMT

They are called scratchers because you scratch your head when you read the odds on the back of the scratchy.

Reply #4

KY Floyd — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:31:37 GMT

All lottery games are sucker bets. I'm not going to bother with the math, but I'm guessing that both games have pretty similar overall payout percentages, so the only difference is the prize distribution. If that's the case, neither game is worse than the other or better than the other. It all come down to whether you want a better chance of turning a modest profit or a slim chance of turning a bigger profit. That's a matter of personal preference.

Reply #3

psykomo — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:12:14 GMT

Badger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>XXXXXXXXX?????^^^^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please state the state the GAME U >>>>>>>>>>>>>>DESCRIBE!!

sound's like a GAME for the STUPID !!!!!!

??????????????

go to>>>>>>>>>VEGAS have .....FUN!

PSYKOMO

Reply #2

BobP — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:54:43 GMT

I discovered this some time ago in Florida. The small prize scratch games only seem like the better bet to win the smaller top prize.

Any thinking lottery player would conclude a scratch game with

a top prize of $100. would offer a much better chance of

winning. This isn't always the case as we compare . . .

Fun Money Market Windfall

Ticket ($2 value) 1 in 8.33 1 in 7.50

$2. 1 in 25.00 1 in 25.00

$4. 1 in 3... [ More ]

Reply #1

four4me — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:44:37 GMT

MOOLA TRIPLER - Game # 711

Top Prize: $100

It's a Tripler!

Game Number: 711

Ticket Price: $1

Start Date: 6/4/2007

Top Prizes Remaining: 44 of 50

How To Play:

Match 3 like amounts, win that amount. Match 2 like amounts, plus get a Cow symbol, win TRIPLE that amount.

Overall Odds: 1:3.8

Detailed Game Odds

MOOLA TRIPLER

1:3.8

PRIZE ODDS ARE

$1 1:8

$2 1:12

$3 1:36

$6 1:71

$18 1:300

$50 1:915

$100 1:48,000

t... [ More ]

Someone explain...

Badger — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:30:40 GMT

There has to be a reason for this. Perhaps someone can explain....

I almost never buy a $1 scratch off ticket. Today, however, a new game just caught my eye . It said $100 top prize . I thought to myself Well its such a small top prize, maybe there are a lot of $100 winners, so what the heck. I bought one. It was a $2 winner. So okay, I say to myself, I doubled my money. (LOL).

THen I looked on the back at the odds for winning the hundred buck top prize.

48,000 to 1 !

I alm... [ More ]