Why states go RNG drawings

Reply #9

Todd — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:30:40 GMT

Excellent points, I agree. I think your conclusion is dead-on, and there are definitely people who will either stop playing, or who will play less.

These lottery directors in large part are not people who get their ideas from lottery players. They get their ideas from (a) people who report to them and (b) the systems vendors.

If you listened to both those types of people all the time, you would start to believe that computerized drawings are great too. I have listened to the sales pit... [ More ]

Reply #8

Badger — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:08:39 GMT

I don't think there are many P4 straight tickets sold to begin with. Just too tough to hit that game, LottoMike. Most people play P3. And even then, I seldom see anyone playing a P3 straight for a buck....it's always fifty cents, or a straight/box which is a buck, but you cover your.....<g

Reply #7

Badger — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:05:01 GMT

You make some good points. I would bet though, that in the majority of states, most of the players don't have an option of driving over the border to play in a non-RNG state. I live only 35 miles from the ILL border, but eveni f I had the time to do so, the cost of driving there and back, with gas, wear and tear on the car, etc. makes it a losing proposition anyway.

I'm not sure that the LC's are afraid of system players. They probably would prefer not to have them play, but I doubt the... [ More ]

Reply #6

LOTTOMIKE — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:02:16 GMT

,not ONE single pick 4 straight winner in the whole state of wisconsin? wait until losingjeff heres this.indiana you ain't alone.i'm VERY interested to see if tennessee keeps posting out how much is won each day like they have been doing.if they stop then we will know something fishy is happening.

Reply #5

Badger — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:53:25 GMT

I follow what you're saying. But in WI at least, I don't think that's why they went to RNG.

The amount they have to pay out for P3 and P4 usually is pretty meager. Below are the

latest figures from their website. Thing is, while they post their pay outs, they never

post (that I can find) the number of tickets that were sold each day. From what I see in

the stores, they a fair amount of tickets for P3, quite less for P4. In any case, I think they

make a nice profit on the daily... [ More ]

Reply #4

JimmySand9 — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 04:42:24 GMT

Um, JAP69, Oklahoma is ball drawn, if you can believe it.

Reply #3

JAP69 — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 04:10:02 GMT

You are probably right about the states not wanting systems players.

I pulled some stats from todays predictions to compare rng and ball drawn states to compare prediction stats.

I did not take out pari mutel wins as they were of small amount of money.

You can see in the stats the percentage comparison.

Missouri rng

Total predictions: 6,362

Winning predictions: 30

Winning predictions percentage: 0.47%

Total simulated cost: $6,362.00

Total simulated prizes: $1,955.00

Prize Ratio... [ More ]

Reply #2

JimmySand9 — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:55:56 GMT

Most lotteries, if not all, install computers because they are cheaper, by tens of thousands of dollars.

They, with the possible exception of Indiana, had and have no intention of manipulating results.

They know that the diehard, 100-quick-picks-at-a-time players don't care how it's drawn, and that's the only players they really care about because they make them the most money.

All lottery directors need is the feeling that the computers are secure and fair, apparently few lottery dir... [ More ]

Reply #1

LOTTOMIKE — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:14:08 GMT

your right.i bet there are a few people hitting a pick 4 straight 10 times for 50,000 dollars.do that regular and it will affect the lottery bottom line.i know i've heard a rumor some person bet twenty bucks here and won a hundred grand and tennessee would not put it on the website.why? well they didn't want it to happen again.stupid.now virginia if you look on their website you see people hitting pick 4 for a hundred ot two hundred grand all the time.props to virginia.to tennessee i say a big... [ More ]

Why states go RNG drawings

JAP69 — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:27 GMT

This is my opinion why states go rng.

It is based on payout figures.

The pari mutel payout is no problem here.

What I think they are doing is tracking the payout in the pick3 and 4 games.

The more savvy the players become in picking the numbers the higher the payout becomes compared to what is wagered.

Going rng in the 3 and 4 game could throw all tracking stats to the wind as the rng draws are supposedly more random.

They say it is to cut costs to the lottery.

Cutting payout