What if you find out ...no System "works" ?

Reply #54

pacattack05 — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:20:20 GMT

You just don't get it, do you?

If I had 200 bucks a day to drop on the lottery, I wouldn't need to play in the first place.

I do acknowledge it happened, but what you fail to see is that anyone using any system, or no system, spending that much everyday, will eventually get a bunch of low tier prizes. This does not prove anything except for the fact that there's a better chance at hitting the big one playing 2 to 5 hundred lines a day.

Again, this would only work if I had 10 people to p... [ More ]

Reply #53

Luminus — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:08:41 GMT

I knew it! A hater! You can't even acknowledge what has happened here, blinded by your own inability to acomplish these goals. There was a small part of me that thought maybe, just maybe, you were being sincere the whole time. But CLEARLY you are not, which makes this victory all the more sweeter.

Sings: Player, hater. Player, hater. Get on the ground.

Go look at yesterday's thread as well, as there more winnings there. My venom stings even harder, today.

Reply #52

pacattack05 — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:58:56 GMT

You'll just end up putting all back into the system.

Reply #51

Luminus — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:54:18 GMT

Bump! My victory will not be drowned out that quickly.

Reply #50

Luminus — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:30:56 GMT

Funny you should say that, because you can forget that bet now. I've already defeated you. Take a look at my POWER NUMBER thread in the Pick-5 forum. Now what was that about eating your violin?

VICTORY IS SO SWEEEEET

Reply #49

jarasan — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:50:14 GMT

CT says: People get slaughtered trying to beat sports betting too.

Unless you know a ref or two.......I got the basketball Jones'.

Happy Basketball

Reply #48

jarasan — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:42:44 GMT

JX says : However, I do depend on my digestive system, which is often random and unpredictable.

Just like the lottery

Reply #47

guesser — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:23:45 GMT

I'll second that.

Reply #46

pacattack05 — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:08:13 GMT

But I never made such a bold claim, as to beating the lottery. It would be absurd of me to do so.

We'll all understand one day. I hope so....lol

Reply #45

pacattack05 — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:00:32 GMT

Please don't think for a moment that I'm swaying you away from your dreams.

You're not deluding yourself. You're on a right track of finding what the truth is. That's all you and I have. The truth.

There might not be an absolute system out there, but maybe there's a directional one.

One that might lead us into the right direction.

Don't give up! There is a way, but it might not be you who finds it...lol

Reply #44

justxploring — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:21:03 GMT

What if you find out ...no System works ?

As long as the central air and the sewer system keep running, I'll keep playing. I've never relied on a lottery system. However, I do depend on my digestive system, which is often random and unpredictable.

Reply #43

Coin Toss — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:49:48 GMT

There's no system to beat casino crap tables, which is the only game that offers true odds (you just have to make a flat bet to take or lay odds). There's just a lot of baloney out there that tells you there are systems to beat the dice.

Even if there was, a system maybe could prove itself one night, or one week, but no system could prove itself all the time.

Now if dice with true odds can't be beat, do you really think there's s sytem out there that can go up agains 20 million to on... [ More ]

Reply #42

Luminus — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:11:54 GMT

I really want to see how your claim holds up

As do I. I'd hate to think that I've been deluding myself and there truly is no system to beat this thing. lol

Reply #41

pacattack05 — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:24:43 GMT

I really don't study the JP games, but it should be fun anyway.

50 is just fine. But the reason here was to see if your system worked or not. I never said I had a profitable system. Nevertheless, I'll do it just for fun, but I really want to see how your claim holds up.

I'll figure some system to use....lol

Reply #40

Luminus — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:02:10 GMT

I don't live in Florida. But I'll post some predictions in NY as I have been doing. Let's see, $50 max, okay? I've already posted some numbers, today, but they don't qualify. Thefore, here's what we will do:

For the next 5 days that I post some numbers, after today, I will post only $50 games or less. You, in turn, will post your blind 50 or less combos in the same thread. On day 6, we will tally up the wins (FREE PLAYS count) and see which method is more desireable system or no sys... [ More ]

Reply #39

pacattack05 — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:31:19 GMT

I'm only going by what I see you post. I see that If I had done what you did, I would have lost major money.

I think what I posted, listing the cost/ profit was totally resonable. That's how people on this board prove a system works. They go to the prediction board, and prove their case. Unfortunately, you can't post there because there's a limit of 50 predictions, and you have millions of them...lol

So, in order to prove that the system works, you can post in the p-5 forum, like you've do... [ More ]

Reply #38

Luminus — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:16:15 GMT

You're still missing the point.

1. I have been playing with 10 people for almost a year. I've recently stopped so that I could do these large test games that you've seen. But they STILL want to play. You know why? Because it's better to win something than to win nothing.

2. I haven't lost $2,000. You're stuck on that number and that's what's going to keep you from achieving your goal. You can't have anything significant without risk. Period. How much money have you lost over the y... [ More ]

Reply #37

pacattack05 — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:05:12 GMT

No doubt that a system is much better than just picking numbers out of thin air, but your system does not improve anything except that I'd be in the poor house.

You say that all I would have to do is just find 10 people to play. Well, the problem with that is, those 10 people would have stopped a while back, or trusted me and lost their butt, so I don't get how you feel this has been profitable, whether it's just me or whether I spread the loss around to 10 people.

I sure wouldn't want 10... [ More ]

Reply #36

Luminus — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:54:45 GMT

Look, it only takes 10 people to play and you don't have to play the entire set. You have several of my games there at different prices as if that destroys my argument, but what you fail to understand is this: you are going to play anyway. Now, is it better to play $20 and loose the entire thing 99.9% of the time, or is it better to use a system and win $18 70%+ of the time? That is what you're missing.

Reply #35

hennybogan — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:44:11 GMT

Been there done that. There is no system that works on a consistant basis. I've had more luck and some fun with the scratch offs.

We just cannot get it through our thick skulls it is A RANDOM EVENT

Reply #34

pacattack05 — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:40:19 GMT

Unless I played with my own little syndicate, I couldn't afford that kind of play. And I definitely don't know that many people who would participate, nor do I have the time for that kind of logistics.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160960 - 175 combos- no return.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160915 - 139 combos- 22 free plays, and 25 bucks.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160869- 700 combos- 92 free plays, and 200 bucks.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thre... [ More ]

Reply #33

Luminus — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:01 GMT

I'll tell you a little secret about quick picks: Some stores have machines that give better odds. I happened to find one of these stores and 4 out of 5 weeks (I used to play every week with my co-workers) I get at least 1 win from that machine. Sometimes it's a free play and sometime's it's money. Look for those machines.

Reply #32

MillionsWanted — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:18:47 GMT

Oh Yeah? I won a second division (just about $ 11,000) with a quickpick earlier this year.

What I meant which I thought was obvious, was that if no system works, you can just as well play with quickpicks.

Reply #31

Luminus — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:07:21 GMT

A few qps? Hundreds of FEE PLAYS are not a few qps. And I DO win consistently, not every time, but MOST of the time. Look at my posts in that forum. The proof is there. It cannot be denied.

In fact, I challenge anyone here to get 40 3-number combos using ANY other system besides mine. And I'm giving you a healthy limit of $1,000 virtual to play with.

Reply #30

RJOh — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:58:34 GMT

How do you decide no system works or

You just haven't find one that does?

I've decided that regardless of which one is true,

you have to keep playing to have any chance of winning or losing.

.....Play responsibly......

Reply #29

pacattack05 — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:50:55 GMT

Luminus, are you telling me that you consistently win using that 244 dollar system? And I'm not talking a few free qps.

I highly doubt it.

Reply #28

Grumple Dumple — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:59:45 GMT

What if you finally find out that there is no System that works? What if you find out that there is nothing that gets you close ......except for the plain old math averages .

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Not to reopen an old and mildly unpleasant can of worms , but the phenomenon would allow a person to quite literally predict the daily/pick 3 and 4 type games correctly 100% of time without failure.

Genuinely random numbers occurring in multiple columns are actually intelligent* progressions always formin... [ More ]

Reply #27

Stack47 — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:32:52 GMT

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking what you're doing and do hope you hit the big one and invite me to the party.

Reply #26

Luminus — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:51:55 GMT

Sorry, but you might as well be speaking French to me with all those statistics. I'm not a mathematician. All I know is this: when I played without the system, I didn't win squat. Using the system, I win something. If that's not good enough for you to use a system, then you're playing for all the wrong reasons. I'm not a big time gambler. This is fun for me and winning ANY win is an exciting event to me.

When I break this lottery, remember what I said. If Raven62 can beat this thin... [ More ]

Reply #25

Stack47 — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:34:53 GMT

I don't play Pick-3, so I don't understand your point.

You were talking about predictions and I don't see very many atta-boys when somebody hits 2 numbers plus the Mega or Power ball. Most of those are reserved for Pick-3 pickers.

Playing $50 and getting back $41.50 is loads better than getting back NOTHING.

If they did that every day that would be an 83% winning percentage when 100% just breaking even, but they don't do that everyday. The game odds are 1000 to 1, it's pays 500 to 1... [ More ]

Reply #24

Luminus — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:22:44 GMT

That $244 earned $1,000. That's the way investment works. Besides, you can use 10 people at $20 or more a pop. Simple.

__________________________________________________________________

Original Post by Stack47 What is so hard about giving a list of 50 Pick-3 combos and say these numbers are good in all states ?

And what's worse, somebody will pick 50 numbers, hit 1 of them in the box, and 4 other people will congratulate them. Where I come from if you hand the lottery clerk $50... [ More ]

Reply #23

Stack47 — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:08:20 GMT

What is so hard about giving a list of 50 Pick-3 combos and say these numbers are good in all states ?

And what's worse, somebody will pick 50 numbers, hit 1 of them in the box, and 4 other people will congratulate them. Where I come from if you hand the lottery clerk $50 and get back $41.50, you lost money.

I'm not knocking the predictors; just the people that don't understand you can win anything unless you bet. Do you really believe people are betting over $100,000 a year on Pick-3s, 4... [ More ]

Reply #22

mylollipop — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:46:26 GMT

Just pick and pick it quik.

Reply #21

guesser — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:38:21 GMT

NO system 'works' to pick ALL of the numbers.

NO system works to pick ANY of the numbers. Consistently.

A system can only point you in a direction, or away from a bad direction.

IF a 'system' truly 'worked', we would not have a lottery or any gaming.

Reply #20

pacattack05 — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:02:31 GMT

Who has 244 bucks to drop?

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160425

Reply #19

Luminus — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:43:53 GMT

No sysem works? Pft! Just look at my threads in the Pick 5 forum. I could NEVER get those kinds of wins without my system. Every game would be a TOTAL loss.

Reply #18

psykomo — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:19:07 GMT

now we're get'in somewhere>>>>>>>

Ole man in NJ tried>>>>>>>> over 5000 time's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Mel Fisher in FL tried >>>>>> over 1,000,000's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

congrat's to....MillionsWanted!

LOL

PSYKOMO

Reply #17

spy153 — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:20:01 GMT

Reply #16

RJOh — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:00:08 GMT

That's one of the reasons I prefer playing jackpot games. You can lose a lot playing any lottery game but at least with a jackpot game you win once you're probably ahead for life compared with a pick3 game you've got to win often to just stay even.

Reply #15

MillionsWanted — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:55:25 GMT

I'll continue playing quickpicks.

Reply #14

pacattack05 — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:06:42 GMT

I will never give up...lol

True, no system...( What I call an Idle system ) will ever be profitable because we live in a liquid universe, not a solid one. Things change all the time...so....I've come up with a fluid solution.

The system would have to morph all the time. The program would need to evolve ever so quickly, as to be in the right place at the right time...all the time, so to speak.

Good luck folks...lol

Reply #13

four4me — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:59:35 GMT

PAC then you might as well give up because it's not possible for a system to win constantly.

No system can predict with 100% accuracy 100% of the time. If you had a system that produce one pick 3 straight a week then you found something worth playing.

Reply #12

pacattack05 — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:53:09 GMT

How do you decide there is no system that works or

You just haven't find one that does?

The way I decide is if I win consistently on paper first. If it hits within a two year period back testing, profitably, then it's a winner. Nothing has even come close !

And to your second question....,

Yes, you're right, I haven't found one that does .

Reply #11

Super8 — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:41:59 GMT

If a system worked as good as it's creator wanted it to, you would never see it...

Super8

Fortunes are won ...and lost

Reply #10

RJOh — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:15:04 GMT

How do you decide there is no system that works or

You just haven't find one that does?

History tell us that at one time the most learned men knew:

the earth was flat and was the center of the universe

what goes up must come down

man wasn't meant to fly

....today the average 10 year old knows none of that is true.

Reply #9

time*treat — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:29:55 GMT

Original Post by WIN D

What if you finally find out that there is no System that works? What if you find out that there is nothing that gets you close ......except for the plain old math averages . What would you do ?

Imagine !

I'd get good excellent at plain old math averages .

Reply #8

cashinn — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:25:39 GMT

Ditto. It's good to have freinds with different systems so that when your system is not working there's a backup somewhere. That's another way to increase your odds of winning.

Reply #7

winsumloosesum — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:22:13 GMT

Never say never WinD.

Systems work up to a point.

BTW Did you figure it out

Reply #6

pacattack05 — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:20:44 GMT

That used to be you?

What happened?

Did a full moon come out?...lol

By the way folks, off topic....Tonight, looking in the northeast starting at 9pm( local time), the perseid meteor showers will be seen. They said as much as 2 a minute.

Reply #5

four4me — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:07:12 GMT

I have not found that to be a true statement. Some systems work sometimes other systems work once in a while and some systems work pretty good on average.

A system for mega, powerball and pick 5/6 games would only have to work one time for me to be satisfied if it were to win a jackpot or match 5/6 numbers.

Reply #4

WIN D — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:03:12 GMT

It use to be me .......... LOL

Reply #3

Coin Toss — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:00:24 GMT

Apologize to the Lottery Fairy for ever having thought something could outperform her, and ask her to be kind, and admit it's luck.

Reply #2

pacattack05 — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:57:19 GMT

Is that you in the pic

Reply #1

pacattack05 — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:56:23 GMT

I'd go bowling.

What if you find out ...no System "works" ?

WIN D — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:43:10 GMT

What if you finally find out that there is no System that works? What if you find out that there is nothing that gets you close ......except for the plain old math averages . What would you do ?

Imagine