Systems say don't play like this....

Reply #37

Yukio — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:31:57 GMT

For Euromillions there should be another Euro Stars variation.

05+06

05+07

05+08

05+09

06+07

06+08

06+09

07+08

07+09

08+09

Fryday, Sep 14, 2007

Draw nr.37 05-09-11-29-33 +07+09

01-02-03-04-05 +05+06

01-02-03-04-05 +05+07

01-02-03-04-05 +05+08

01-02-03-04-05 +05+09

01-02-03-04-05 +06+07

01-02-03-04-05 +06+08

01-02-03-04-05 +06+09

01-02-03-04-05 +07+08

01-02-03-04-05 +07+09

01-02-03-04-05 +08+09

One 1+2 from ten ticket... [ More ]

Reply #36

Badger — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:16:04 GMT

Yeah I know that when it comes to jp games, most all gurus say you shouldn't play such lines. But the gurus are just playing statistics, and the odds of such draws are slimmer than 2/3 odd-even etc. Yet such draws as above do come in all the time.

The longer I'm at it, the more convinced I'm getting that for jp games, a qp is as good as anything. There is simply no way of telling what will hit on the next draw.

Reply #35

Yukio — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:21:43 GMT

Euromillions.

Draw n 36

I noticed that on Fryday 07 September 2007, there was a similar combination.

02-03-33-34-42 +03+05

01-02-03-04-05 +01+02

01-02-03-04-05+01+03

01-02-03-04-05 +01+04

01-02-03-04-05 +01+05

01-02-03-04-05 +02+03

01-02-03-04-05 +02+04

01-02-03-04-05 +02+05

01-02-03-04-05 +03+04

01-02-03-04-05 +03+05

01-02-03-04-05 +04+05

Six with 2+1 and One with 2+2.

Can you see? It is a matter of a correct set of numbers into a sp... [ More ]

Reply #34

Yukio — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:47:15 GMT

Mega Millions

08/24/2007

4,21,46,51,53 MEGA BALL = 5

Now, talking about 1-5 ...

1,2,3,4,5+1

1,2,3,4,5+2

1,2,3,4,5+3

1,2,3,4,5,+4

1,2,3,4,5+5

1+1 pays $3.

1,2,3,4,5,6,51,52,53,54,55,56

1,2,3,4,5,6

01,02,06,51,52

01,03,04,05,52

01,05,06,53,56

02,03,05,51,53

03,52,53,54,56

04,06,51,53,55

02,03,04,06,54

01,03,51,55,56

04,05,51,54,56

02,04,52,55,56

01,02,53,54,55

05,06,52,54,55

Now, Imagine

Reply #33

guesser — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:06:31 GMT

It's a play on words.

They want YOU to understand what you are asking, so they can give the 'correct' answer, never mind the fact that no matter how you word it, you are still going to get the SAME answer regardless...

As far as 'odds' go, I think I'm safe in assuming I have a MUCH better chance at winning (something) by not playing the same numbers that won in the prior game. If you would have replayed all the same numbers on PB on 8/22 from the prior game of 8/18, you would have hit two... [ More ]

Reply #32

Yukio — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:02:33 GMT

Euromillions.

Draw n 34.

1-3-16-42-48 + 2 + 3

If someone would like the 1-2-3-4-5 combination with winning stars from 1-5 their could get a nice prize.

Ten numbers with 1-2-3-4-5-46-47-48-49-50 would be a winner combination too.

Example:

Winning Stars

+01+02

+01+03

+01+04

+01+05

+02+03

+02+04

+02+05

+03+04

+03+05

+04+05

1-2-3-4-5+01+02

1-2-3-4-5+01+03

1-2-3-4-5+01+04

1-2-3-4-5+01+05

1-2-3-4-5+02+03

1-2-3-4-5+02+04

Reply #31

Yukio — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:44:26 GMT

21 August 2007.

DUPLA SENA n 584.

12-23-32-38-46-50

01-03-12-15-31-38

22 August 2007.

MEGA-SENA n 895.

02-41-43-55-57-58

Reply #30

pacattack05 — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:18:28 GMT

It's very simple. It's called being stubborn.

I had a friend in New York who could literally answer just about 98 percent of every, and I meany every question on Jeopardy, (or question to the answer in jeapordy fashion), yet would never ever ever ever ever admit he was wrong.

I have another friend in California who is the exact same way. He won't even laugh at a really good joke, but expects you to roll on the floor if he tells one.

The friend in New York is a cessna pilot, and knows a... [ More ]

Reply #29

WIN D — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:52:07 GMT

For years I went around asking what I thought were very Intelligent people questions about ODDs and such as that.

Never.... never ....did any of those so called intelligent people ever say .... OH I see ,,,you want to know about statistical probability not just ODDS.

I will never understand that as long as I live.....why? They had to know what I meant. They did, I know that some certainly did. Maybe I just don't want to understand people are that way.

Reply #28

pacattack05 — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:34:53 GMT

What is the Probability of 123 hitting for the 4th day in a row? Well .....now ... he will say... that's different.

The Odds remain the same .....but.... the probability is very... very remote. Remote and exstream ... he will say.

I'll bet you he'll say you're wrong on that one. He really believes that 123 has the same chance to come out, when deep down he knows it's just semantics in words, and in reality the chances of 123 coming out even 3 days in a row are very... [ More ]

Reply #27

WIN D — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:12:59 GMT

You guys..... you are both right. Really you are.

The problem is the WORDS

When you turn your play ticket over and read the ODDS ....... those odds will never change. They will stay the same every day you turn over the ticket. LOL

If you ask the God of Luck each day .... What are the ODDS on Pick 3 today You will get the same answer every day...... No matter what the Game is doing. Basic 1 in a 1000 answer....OK?

Now......ask the God of Luck

Reply #26

pacattack05 — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:54:47 GMT

but if it comes up once it will stil have th esame 1 in 1000 chance on th enext drawing.

WRONG!

I'll send you a copy of what John Koycerin wrote. He is a math proffesor, and has blown that old theory away.

I know you think you know a lot, and I'm sure you know more than I by the way you articulate yourself in your writings, however, I strongly believe that someone can always learn even more. Take the horse blinders off for just one minute, and be open about new theories which may uproo... [ More ]

Reply #25

pacattack05 — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:42:34 GMT

The next day before the draw .....the odds for 123 would be the same as Monday .....but the probability would not be the same.

The above is what WIN D was saying, and you replied by saying that 123 has the same chance to come out again the next day and so on, and that's where I based my reply on.

Go back and read your own reply before you post something you don't know.

I know that a p-3 set has a 1 in 999 to come out, but you said that 123 has the same chance the following day. You sai... [ More ]

Reply #24

time*treat — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:14:35 GMT

The system that chose this combo was the terminal.

System players don't say Thus-and-such combos can't come out . What they say is This or that thing is more likely to happen than other things and that's where I'll place my bets.

We all know strange combinations win sometimes. We have read articles about someone playing the same combos for 15 yrs and finally winning (There are no articles about all those who play for years and don't win)

System players don't want to wait 15 y... [ More ]

Reply #23

Yukio — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:58:51 GMT

Hum ... Now, Mega Millions has a history of two to three digits on sequence.

52-53-54-55-56 + X is a winner combination for the last draw.

Reply #22

KY Floyd — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:16:21 GMT

If somebody had won MM tonight I guess there's no chance it would have been Gail Howard. This one is a textbook example of the kind of combination several posters claim is extremely unlikely.

Reply #21

KY Floyd — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:08:34 GMT

Reality isn't determined by what you believe, and just because something is a fact doesn't mean you understand the implications. The chance of 123 coming up 6 times in a row isn't in the hundreds of millions. It's 1 in 10006, which is 1 in a trillion million, but if it comes up once it will stil have th esame 1 in 1000 chance on th enext drawing. But who said anything about betting the same number every day? It isn't the numbers you bet that determine the odds. It's how many numbers you have to... [ More ]

Reply #20

RJOh — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:58:50 GMT

I think players chart their numbers and come to conclusions that aren't logical.

For example in a 649 games a player might chart the 15 hottest numbers for the previous 50 drawings and concludes it's logical to expect four or more of those numbers to be in the next winning combination so he wheels them to cover all the possible combinations of fours among them and wins nothing. He looks at his chart closer and notices no more then three of those numbers were ever in a winning combination d... [ More ]

Reply #19

guesser — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:14:32 GMT

I'm really beginning to question if some of you really do 'chart' the numbers, because if you did, some of you would not be saying some of the things you are saying.

There is NO sure-fire way of predicting which actual numbers will hit and/or when, but there are sooo many ways of playing certain tendencies of the numbers that DO hit, these tendencies transcend to most of the games, now all you have to do is guess which ways to play.

Reply #18

pacattack05 — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:27:10 GMT

I don't hold that idea of repetitive betting being as seperate events anymore.

True, If you only bet once in the p-3 your entire life, it will be 999 to 1, but if you continually bet on a daily basis, a phenomenon occurs. The probability of the same exact set (123 for example) coming out in subsequent days decreases tremendously. That's what Wind d was writing about. That's not some random thought I made up. That's a fact.

The odds of 123 coming out 6 days in a row are in the hundreds of m... [ More ]

Reply #17

KY Floyd — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:06:05 GMT

Odds and probability are the same thing expressed in different ways. If 1 number is picked randomly from 1000 numbers the odds for a particular number are 1:999 and the probability of picking a particular number is .001 every single time, regardless of what the previous results were.

Reply #16

KY Floyd — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:04:04 GMT

History shows what did happen, not what will happen. It might shed some light on the future of human nature, but it does squat to help with the future of random events. Unless the MM numbers that are drawn tonight are a repeat history shows that a lot of other combinations came out first, but I'd sure like to play those numbers anyway.

For a 5 of 37 game there are 435,897 possible combinations. With a total of 2723 drawings at least 99.38% of the possible combinations would not have been d... [ More ]

Reply #15

Stack47 — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:20:12 GMT

Ohio Rolling Cash 5:

Thursday7/26/200729,35,36,37,39$120,000

There are only 462 combinations in a 5/39 that start with 29 so this might be a wee bit rarer.

Reply #14

pumpi76 — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:24:57 GMT

That has to be the rarest combination ever right next to 1-2-3-4-5 or with numbers less than 10...

Not only is rare because it starts with 24, but is all even too...A combination to start with 18+ is common in PIck5, but the equivalent of it in Pick6 (in a pick6/49 a combination that starts with 35+ i'll say) is even rarer...In a quick check up really quick i notice that in RNG a combination that will start with 18+ will appear more often than in a ball machine draw, but i did the check up on... [ More ]

Reply #13

BobP — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:07:30 GMT

Every lottery combination is unique and at the same time shares gross aspects with multiple lottery populations of combinations.

For example, a combination with 3odd/3even numbers is one among millions of 3odd/3even combinations, whereas a 0odd/6even combination is a member of a much smaller population.

The 3odd/3even type combination is drawn 3 or 4 times in 10. The 0odd/6even combination is drawn roughly 1 time in 100.

Is it more fun to have a small chance to win often or a much

Reply #12

Coin Toss — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 04:23:14 GMT

Little Lotto used to be a 5 / 30 game and switched to 5 / 39.

Before the matrix expanded, the top prize was detrmined by the amount of play and the lower tier (4 of 5) was determined by the number of winners - but there were only two lower tiers, 4 of 5 and 3 of 5 (I think 3 of 5 was always $5)

When it expanded the lower prizes became constants, $100 for 4 of 5, $10 for 3 of 5, and $1 for 2 of 5.

So I guess everyone who was kvethching about not getting paid anything for hitting two... [ More ]

Reply #11

Stack47 — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:22:15 GMT

In 5/39 Pick-5 games there are 575,757 total combinations and 11,628 are all even numbers and 15,504 are all odd so I think the term unlikely is more appropriate. Over time combinations like 1-2-3-4-5 will be drawn but the problem is that even if a 5/39 Pick-5 game is drawn 7 days a week, it would still take over 1577 years before there are 575,757 drawings. That's not saying all the combos will be drawn either because we should expect to see some repeats.

I'm not doing the math on PB and MM... [ More ]

Reply #10

WIN D — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:23:57 GMT

Odds don't change .....but the probability does.

If the fla Pick 3 game had its normal draw on Monday and the result was 123......

The next day before the draw .....the odds for 123 would be the same as Monday .....but the probability would not be the same.

If the the draws were 123 on Monday ....and 123 on Tuesday ..... the odds would not change just because it was now Wednesday morning. The odds would be the same as they had been all week. One in a Thousand... [ More ]

Reply #9

pacattack05 — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:55:03 GMT

Of course you will have flukes. But that's not a good enough reason not to play awkward combos. I think it was about a week or so ago when I pointed out how the Florida Fantasy five had like 3 or 4 days straight, with all odd numbers, and the next day it was all even. Just the other day someone pointed out to a combo in some state which came out 2 days later.

I never said that flukes don't happen, like when a p-3 number comes out exactly straight the next day.

All I was saying is that no m... [ More ]

Reply #8

RJOh — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:02:16 GMT

The numbers 1-2-3-4-5 have the same odds of coming out as any other combo.

That may be true but history has shown that a lot of other combos will come out before it ever does, which affirms some folks belief that the odds of it coming out are not the same.

I tracked the winning numbers of the old Ohio Buckeye5 for over 10 years (2723 drawings) and during that time five other combos came out twice and the best 1-2-3-4-5 did was to match 3 thirty-three times. However it has matched four i... [ More ]

Reply #7

Raven62 — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:21:50 GMT

That's like the guy who went to the construction site of his new house (everyday) at the same time of day and stood in the same location with his movie camera and shot a clip of the house construction. Afterward he had a time lapse movie of the house construction. Actually it looked pretty neat.

Reply #6

pacattack05 — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:57:36 GMT

The odds of numbers 1-2-3-4-5 hitting are pretty astronomical, but they are definitely not ZERO.

The numbers 1-2-3-4-5 have the same odds of coming out as any other combo.

I've had this argument with a friend who has accumulated a lot of knowledge over the years, but he lacks common sense. Not just with this issue but on a couple of other basic subjects.

The reason 12345 hasn't come out yet is because it's not it's time yet. Just like last night's combo will probably not come out again... [ More ]

Reply #5

guesser — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:07:12 GMT

There are all kinds of reports saying what NOT to play, but you can never say never.

The odds may be REALLY against a certain set of numbers, but the odds are never zero on anything, every time I say 'that will never happen', it usually does. (yes, I keep telling myself I will never win the lottery - that has not helped).

The odds of numbers 1-2-3-4-5 hitting are pretty astronomical, but they are definitely not ZERO.

There was a test game awhile back with 22-23-24-27-30, and I think the... [ More ]

Reply #4

Yukio — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:51:56 GMT

This if you don't play electronic (online) Lotto. Those games will feature a option to make a bet on all evens or all odds. There is options about the colours and the lump sum too ...

Reply #3

RJOh — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:50:05 GMT

Systems don't really tell you how to play, they show that combinations with all even or all odd numbers and a range of ten don't come up often.

I wouldn't start playing combinations with all even numbers and a range of ten in the future hoping to improve my odds of winning.

Gail Howard say a lot of things that obvious to the average lottery player like don't play all even or odds numbers, play all the numbers in the field not just birthday numbers and etc.

Reply #2

Coin Toss — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:47:53 GMT

I remember reading Gail Howard saying never play all evens or all odds.

Reply #1

Yukio — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:14:44 GMT

Actually, there would be systems that are similar to this.

Like the counting system that will add some numbers to the first winner number in the sequence. Also this should remember the odds of some 'poorest' visualized sequence.

Systems say don't play like this....

Coin Toss — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:09:44 GMT

Illinois Little Lotto 8-16-07

WINNING NUMBERS: 24 - 26 - 28 - 30 - 34

PLAYER(S) MATCHING 5 OF 5 NUMBERS

INCLUDING SUBSCRIPTION WINNERS: 1

EACH PLAYER WILL RECEIVE: $175,000.00

WINNING TICKET(S) WERE SOLD AT:

604140 JENSENS AMOCO SERVICE (QP)

______________________________________________

All evens, then first number drawn + 2 + 2 + 2 + 4