tennessee RNG is hell.grrrrrrrr

Reply #26

jarasan — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:59:24 GMT

There is no sarcasm, and I am not rope a doping. You have no disagreement from me that nothing is perfect, ever. That was not my point.

Since you say both systems stink, and and your way will never happen, then why even bother? That is why I am interested and wondering if there is another way to do it, maybe in another thread.

Yes, I have read many of your posts, and I did not say your way or the highway. I just asked what would you approve of, instead of RNG or ball draws? In anothe... [ More ]

Reply #25

pacattack05 — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:36:12 GMT

Funny how I ask very simple questions, yet all I'm getting is the rope-a-dope.

Just about everybody on this forum would prefer ball draws over RNG.

I think both methods stink. The balls have their issues, and so do the RNG. You are missing my point.

I asked a simple question. Can the manipulation of the rotation of tubes and pretests have a direct influence on the outcome of numbers, thus disrupting the natural flow? Very simple.

I guess you haven't read too many of my threads when... [ More ]

Reply #24

jarasan — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:58:16 GMT

The topic of the thread is tennessee RNG is grr.....................

Just about everybody on this forum would prefer ball draws over RNG.

The way the ball draws are handled is another topic.

It could be called Ball Draw Protocols or Instead of RNG and balldraws, here is what we do to pick numbers.... , you know to make it totally fair, a system that the Pac puts his stamp of approval on, remember no problems only solutions .

The hexagon ball machine. It'll put the hex on you.... [ More ]

Reply #23

pacattack05 — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:32:00 GMT

I have no doubt the balls a real, and that they can be tested and all that. That is not what I was questioning.

I also concede that the code can be manipulated.

But what I'm asking is for someone to tell me that by rotating the tubes, and doing pretests, that the natural flow of the outcome of certain numbers within that tube are not being affected. Of course they are.

For just one example of many more, Let's say within the tube position one, the number 8 has been out for 60 days. Why d... [ More ]

Reply #22

jarasan — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:44:32 GMT

Apples and oranges.

The computerized drawing is a man-made abstract and interpetive representation of what the programmers' perception or model of randomness which they choose to use in their Code.

The ball, tube mixer, etc. whatever physical system that is used for draws is only influenced by the local laws of physics. By this fact, empirical values are directly measureable and quantifiable, therefore can be tested and observed directly.

The balls are real, the code is not.

The g... [ More ]

Reply #21

pacattack05 — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:46:52 GMT

WOW ! Talk about a major mess up.

But what boggles my mind is how the same kind of outrage isn't applied to the mechanical draws, with their musical tubes, and pretests.

Not just one time, but everyday, and some twice a day !

To this day, I haven't heard a good argument against what I've been saying for a while now.

Can anyone show what I say doesen't interfere with the natural flow of what we interpret as Chaos ? Moving tubes around and doing pretests. Not letting the public know w... [ More ]

Reply #20

jarasan — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:04:11 GMT

I said this recently:

If they went computerized, it could open the door for a legal challenge. The legal challenge would be proving that computer code is not random and is easily manipulated. If the court rules in favor of the challenge to the validity of RNG, precedent would be set, all RNG would be invalid. Because PowerBall is multi-state it would be federal and would be very healthy for the industry to bring some light on the operations and money trails of the lotteries.

I can see... [ More ]

Reply #19

WIN D — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:46:05 GMT

You just can't beat good old Math and Probability analysis to sober up the Bureaucrats ......... someone read this or it was quoted to them.

Good Job noahproblem !

Quote: Originally posted by noahproblem on August 16, 2007

We have had some other inquiries about the lack of double digit winning numbers, so we had our security staff run several random test draws, and double digits were drawn.

KyMystikal, tell them (politely, of course) to put this in their pipe a... [ More ]

Reply #18

WIN D — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:38:00 GMT

Can you spell ......

Class ACTION LAWSUIT !

Oh ...yes bet on it.

Reply #17

four4me — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:13:35 GMT

Stack47 the post many people made were derived for the news media and the lottery. emails sent back and forth from the Tennessee lottery are generic in nature that is everyone gets the same response.

from the Tennessee lottery quote:

The security and integrity of our games is of utmost importance and this greatly impacted our decision to go to these type drawings. Cash 3, Cash 4, Lotto 5 and Hot Trax drawings are now conducted at the Tennessee Lottery's headquarters in Nashville using... [ More ]

Reply #16

jarasan — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:37:17 GMT

What a joke. The joke is going to be on them when they start losing more real money and even more non-computerized players.

You know what is even worse they keep talking about where the money theoretically goes, like you shouldn't worry about it since it is going towards education anyway, yeah right. Thanks a lot it is for the children. What education? What children?

Well 30th ain't so bad. We're working on that also.

Vermont is #1 and the lottery is A+ ball drawn, the people definitel... [ More ]

Reply #15

Stack47 — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:12:08 GMT

For those who selected two or more of the same numbers in a play for Cash 3 or Cash 4 during the past 23 days (July 28 through Aug. 20) and who still have their tickets, the Lottery is offering a double refund for the price of each ticket or two free plays equal to the play amount on the ticket.

Since Ms Hargrove is just offering refunds to those playing double, triples, or quads, it's obvious what the programming issue was. But she addmitted the drawings were flawed, shouldn't ALL the tick... [ More ]

Reply #14

Tnplayer805 — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:07:43 GMT

That's only if you played doubles.... I still have yet to buy a TN ticket since they switched over... I guess I won't for a while. I'm back in Mobile, AL so I'll go Florida less than an hour away.

Reply #13

four4me — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:56:04 GMT

yes it's too bad that an experience person like Rebecca H would have allowed some computer geeks to convince her and the lottery board that computers can pick numbers and save them money. now it seems that they will redeem any tickets people bought that had double numbers.

How many people keep all their losing tickets.

Lots of people toss em out or tear them up after the drawings. So those people are screwed.

http://www.tnlottery.com

Reply #12

DoubleDown — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:48:08 GMT

remember folks, ping pong balls do not have programming errors

Reply #11

Rocket 455 — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:35:32 GMT

That would never happen with voting machines. Would it

Reply #10

paurths — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:22:59 GMT

That's what i thought, a programming error ...

Does anyone need more proof that the RNG draws can be and very likely are fixed

Reply #9

Yukio — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:59:03 GMT

Well, it is sounding like some person were correct. And others corrected ... To bad, this could explain the good statistics of players that don't bet on doubles ...

Reply #8

Jani Norman — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:55:40 GMT

http://www.tnlottery.com/

LOTTERY S CASH 3, CASH 4 DRAWINGS RECTIFIED

A programming issue that impacted the last three weeks of Cash 3 and Cash 4 drawings was discovered yesterday and attributed to a human error made by an outside, third party vendor, the Tennessee Lottery announced today.

Once the issue was pinpointed, it was corrected immediately, said Rebecca Hargrove, President and CEO of the Tennessee Lottery. The Tennessee Lottery sincerely regrets what happened and wants to... [ More ]

Reply #7

Jani Norman — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:30:06 GMT

Tennessee Lottery has just admitted to a human error glitch, on the news channel 3 (wreg.com) stating that it is the reason that a double or triple number has not been drawn since the change over to computer (RNG) draws, more info due to follow from Rebecca Hargrove, she is stating she will give away additional prizes for the glitch that was just discovered......will post more info as it becomes available here in Tennessee.....

Reply #6

Yukio — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:16:19 GMT

Yes ...

Reply #5

nobie23 — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:26:00 GMT

that is a hot traveling # for the last couple of days

Reply #4

LOTTOMIKE — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:42:22 GMT

813 showed up in the evening and then again 813 midday yesterday.

Reply #3

Todd — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:03:54 GMT

https://www.lotterypost.com/news/160527/882842

Reply #2

paurths — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:27:06 GMT

Something's weird in Tennessee...

Pick3 midday did not have a double in ... 26 draws...

And eve, well, there a double is also missing for... 26 draws....

Reply #1

four4me — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:56:39 GMT

Not that it doesn't happen it just doesn't happen often a number that falls more than three time a year is rare.

As i stated in another post you made about your favorite number your lottery is in it's infancy so to speak. 10000 pick 4 numbers. It's not a good idea to get stuck or marry a number. I feel for you but your pick hit straight once already and might not come in straight again for a long time. But you never know since your lottery refuses to believe their software is a corrupted piec... [ More ]

tennessee RNG is hell.grrrrrrrr

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:14:22 GMT

well i had 4856 tonight,numbers were 4256,the 'ol one number off syndrome.ain't it something.i only play four numbers a night yet every other night i'm off by one number.....hmmmmm