computerized drawings set to take over the lottery in a few years?

Reply #17

LOTTOMIKE — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:05:53 GMT

unfortunately all this has happened at a bad time for me.i'm going through a lot of health problems right now a lot of it brought on by me and i'm not in a good position to do anything.any other time i would've been the first person to reach out and help with the issue but i'm not mentally or physically able.i really do hate that though because i would be level headed and present our case and show the evidence we have.you were one of the first to discover this so you should be applauded for noti... [ More ]

Reply #16

four4me — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:17:42 GMT

who says you cant call your state Representatives and clue them into the news articles about this. Copy and paste the links and drop it in an email to them.

Call or email the lieutenant Governor Ron Ramsey, or the attorney general office Robert E. Cooper, Jr. You can do all sorts of things to try and get this matter fixed. Just keep a level head and be persistent. Be prepared to show facts and figures. They wouldn't be the least bit interested if you go at it with a hot headed attitude.

Reply #15

LOTTOMIKE — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:39:43 GMT

i agree.tennessee lost its credibility.

tennessee had a pretty good thing going.they had a pick 3 and pick 4 twice a day.a good pick 5 game that reaches up to half a million or sometimes a million that was drawn three times a week.they had powerball.plus we have some very good scratch offs plus a raffle recently.

pretty damn stupid of them to switch to RNG.i never ever would've thought this would happen.jimmysand9 had actually pointed it out first when he saw that part on the website... [ More ]

Reply #14

LOTTOMIKE — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:32:43 GMT

look at this poll florida has right now.this is serious.they are starting to fall like dominos.the latest is missouri,hot lotto and now tennessee.plus you got florida and its sneaky poll.

Reply #13

psykomo — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:56:40 GMT

RNG explaine>>>>>>ball handle'g

(does the computer tickel D ball's>>>>>>>>>>)???????????????

does D computer LEAVE???FINGERPTINT'$$$$$$$

the gull's wanta>

KNOW

Reply #12

psykomo — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:36:24 GMT

REALLY, really<<<<<<<<who give's a KRAP about BALLs or RNG????

DON't make my livin on EITHER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

BUT,.............someone don't like to leave any DNA>>>>>>>BEHIND!

SO,..............with no BALL handl'g no DNA to back-up the FACT's??

HOW do we back-up the FACT'ssssssssssssssssssssssssss

who's D father of D number's... [ More ]

Reply #11

opscure — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:28:13 GMT

Thanks ArtVandalay for posting that FAQ, it does help to show why states are moving towards the rng systems (not a huge fan, either). I come from somewhat of a technical background (not a super geek, but I like electronics) and I know that when ever custom software is produced there are going to be bugs. Some of these may be big and some may be small, but ultimatly there will be errors in the code. You see this almost daily with Microsoft products, yet no one seems to be throwing away their

Reply #10

ArtVandalay — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:06:33 GMT

There seems to be a trend towards moving to computerized (Random Number Generator - RNG) drawings. For one thing, state lotteries say that they are cost effective . They are easier and cheaper to maintain in the long run and maybe even cheaper to buy to begin with. I'm not crazy about the idea to begin with, mistakes can be made, like the one with the Tenn. Lottery. I think that part of the problem is that it is so much easier to believe that it truely is random with a physical ball based s... [ More ]

Reply #9

opscure — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:25:01 GMT

According to that article it seems like Smartplay Int. is the manufacturer/vendor and Gaming Laboratories Inc. was the auditor. I think that Tenn. Lottery should have had additional auditors on site (in Tenn.) and that sufficient testing should have been done prior to deployment. This, while being a silly programming error, should have been caught by the lottery before the drawings went public. Also, why did it take them so long to get a fix for this, when so many people were complaining? di... [ More ]

Reply #8

psykomo — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:13:05 GMT

REMEMBER...............PSYKOMO sey's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If it aunt broke... don't try to FIX it <<<<<<

....FIX IT (WHO WOULD want to do THAT??)

DID anybody GET-IT ????????????(WHO would want to FIX ......the LOTTERY?)

??????????????????????????????????????????????

BLESS the USA ALL the BUBBLE BALL MACHINE'S^^^

PROTECT the SHEEP^^^^NO<<<<<<<<RNG... [ More ]

Reply #7

Todd — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:16:45 GMT

Apparently there were two separate auditors to check the drawings Smartplay International Inc. and Gaming Laboratories Inc., both of which are based in New Jersey (hmmmm....). (Documented here: https://www.lotterypost.com/news/161364)

The type of auditor you are referring to, like KPMG, audit the financial side of things, like jackpots, other prizes, distribution of funds, balance sheet, etc. The gaming auditors above are supposed to be able to determine if a drawing machine is operating

Reply #6

tnlotto1 — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:23:05 GMT

you make a great point because back when TN had real drawings they would have the announcer stand there and a person from the audit place standing there too and they would announce which audit place they were from and then have the ball drawing. now you just see a cartoon/computer drawing and no people so you dont know who did the audit for that drawing

Reply #5

opscure — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:24:23 GMT

Just like any gaming equipment for the casinos, all lottery equipment goes through a third party auditing company to ensure the code is properly written. This, in addition, to the third party auditors that were supposed to be on site monitoring the criteria of balls picked for each of the drawings. Although this is a programming failure, the responsible party are those that were paid specifically to ensure the code was properly written. So, I agree, sue the auditors.

Reply #4

WIN D — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:43:57 GMT

Here is another question....

Don't these States use independent Auditors ? Price Waterhouse... KPMG ...etc

So,,,, Don't the States pay these Geeks Thousands Dollars $$$$$ each year to Audit?

Isn't it their job to Audit the actions...preceedings and results of the draws?

These are supposed to be the MATH Guys .... The Bean Counters ... The Number Crunchers The guys who oversee the results.... and CERTIFY... [ More ]

Reply #3

LOTTOMIKE — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:10:02 GMT

i would love for this to happen.it would be cool if it did.i'd love to see a class action suit take place.like badger said these days people have real short memories.within a month a high powerball jackpot and this 'fiasco' will be forgotten.sad but probably true.

Reply #2

Badger — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:41:14 GMT

The American populace has a short memory. (just look at the elected officials that we re-elect)

The majority of players are just QP players anyway. They don't try and predict what will fall. They will still buy their QPs. Even the TN problem (which they of course say was not a problem) won't change anything. Much like govt, the LCs do what they want to do, then spin it to make it sound like an improvement. And they know even if there is a blip in purchase of tickets, it too will pass.... [ More ]

Reply #1

WIN D — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:29:37 GMT

Lottomike.....

Don't you think the Tenn melt down example will have legs in these other states?

The King has no longer has any clothes ! For sure in Tenn anyway. The state will never get back the confidence of the players there.

I think that there is going to be a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT in Tenn just around the corner that will give these other STATES .......second thoughts.

computerized drawings set to take over the lottery in a few years?

LOTTOMIKE — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:11:24 GMT

i never thought i'd say this a couple years ago or even a year ago.but it looks to me that maybe in a few years time that we will see the end of ball drawings as we know it.tennessee lasted three whole years before bowing out to computerized draws.then before that you had missouri biting the dust about the time tennessee came along.you have hot lotto going from balls to computers and MUSL defended this decision.these are the same people who run powerball.once powerball or mega millions goes RNG... [ More ]