Pick 3 : When is the system "Beat"?

Reply #36

time*treat — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:08:44 GMT

There is no shortage of schmoes who will tell you your method is no-good because it doesn't hit as often as they'd like. These types tend to have demands that are inversely related to their own system building skills.

Other: The game is beat when you, the system designer, are happy with your results.

Reply #35

pumpi76 — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:49:06 GMT

When is the system beat?

if you know FOR CERTAIN that you win every 5 tries and quintiple your bets....I am assuming you are betting no more than 10 dollars...If you are certain that in the 3 days you will get 1 of those days right then bet 30 dollars and not 1 dollar....30 X 500 is 15,000 dollars....But for this you must learn to be correct with a very few numbers...

you have a system bet when you can afford to bet 50 dollars on 1 numbers and be confident i'll come out and pay you: 25,000... [ More ]

Reply #34

JAP69 — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:23:07 GMT

A winning system generally falls with the player themselves on their ability to choose correctly the winning numbers.

My blog has many ideas for paper and pencil as well as software analysis.

There are automated systems out there . All depends how well they are programmed to pick winners.

Reply #33

Hans — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:34:04 GMT

Simply play those 36 tickets. :)

1 00 04 07

2 00 04 08

3 00 04 09

4 00 05 07

5 00 05 08

6 00 05 09

7 00 06 07

8 00 06 08

9 00 06 09

10 01 04 07

11 01 04 08

12 01 04 09

13 01 05 07

14 01 05 08

15 01 05 09

16 01 06 07

17 01 06 08

18 01 06 09

19 02 04 07

20 02 04 08

21 02 04 09

22 02 05 07... [ More ]

Reply #32

markcornelius — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:26:42 GMT

how can i get some infor on your winning system.

Reply #31

JAP69 — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:38:58 GMT

If you are only playing one number you need to find a method to pick one combo from the 220 box combos that you feel is ready to hit.

Then you place that number in exact order that you think it will hit.

If I were just playing one dollar per day str8 I would put a little more zip in my game and play 2 numbers str8 for .50 cents each.

There are many ways to pick just one combo.

Reply #30

RJOh — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:18:02 GMT

If you're talking about a system to pick a winner in a pick3 game then you're only considering 1000 combinations at most and for a six way box hit 120 or a three way box 90. If the system considers 50% of the possible combinations for those categories and doesn't include a winner then it's no better than a RNG.

My system use a bias based on the most recent drawings compared to earlier drawings to pick combinations for considerations. I check the system performance by recording all the combi... [ More ]

Reply #29

hypersoniq — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:27:10 GMT

It could be the game... using the latest version of LRS...

my best for PA p3 evening 54 hits in 10,510 draws, 0.51% net profit = $16,490 over 29 years ($568 per year)

pa pick3 MIDDAY 24 hits in 1,683 draws, 1.43% net profit = $10,317 over 5 years ($2,063 per year)

pa pick4 Evening 25 hits in 7,996 draws, 0.31% net profit = $117,004 over 22 years ($5,318 per year)

I didn't do pick4 midday yet, but I expect similar results. PA Mid-day pick3 has the shortest gaps (several wins per year... [ More ]

Reply #28

WIN D — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:50:43 GMT

Ofcourse .....Badger.

Something that you say when you believe that what you will say next is generally accepted or understood..... ofcourse. It goes without saying.

Don't forget to have fun. There is always an entertainment value in all of this .......if one remembers to stay positive.....and holds their mouth right.

Reply #27

Badger — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:09:26 GMT

Yes, of course I did say that Win_D. I think the vast majority of us here do not consider spending more money as an option. If we were rolling in dough, most of us would not be playing the lottery.

Reply #26

Badger — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:04:56 GMT

I don't think anyone could put that any more precisely than you did. Those of us that have been chasing P3 for years have all experienced this exact same thing. There doesn't seem to be a system that works consistently enough to insure a profit, and it is usually because the odds are so much in the favor of the state.

Which means trying to chase a winner in any of the jackpot games is much, much worse.

Reply #25

JAP69 — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:16:21 GMT

I have a simple theory to program but can not program.

I have complex theories too.

If I had someone program them they might run off with it.

Reply #24

WIN D — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:17:18 GMT

.

Thick German Accent OK......

Very Interesting ....

Vi...do I have such a strong desire .....to March on dat guy's face ? YAH

Reply #23

WIN D — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:43:51 GMT

Nom de pL00m ! Sac reh Blue ! Sac a rin !

Lay No ....you did not say that

Reply #22

Badger — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:53:02 GMT

While I can not prove it, I think your comment does cover the vast majority of us here.

Reply #21

LANTERN — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:30:58 GMT

I don't know if I can or not develop a system that would win straight at least 2 times every year as I have no way of testing against past draws any systems that I might think of.

A computer programer who also knows how to predict would have the bigger advantage over somebody like me, who knows a little about lottery prediction, but can't program.

Prediction Rules are not made, but instead are found (If any) on the patterns of past draws.

Reply #20

Guru101 — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:00:47 GMT

Some systems aren't designed to win prizes, frequently, even the lower tier prizes. It just depends on the system. Some systems might be designed to target the jackpot winning set, eliminating some of the winning sets that might be lower tier. I'm going to say that a system is beat when you stop believing in it.

Reply #19

hypersoniq — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:36:24 GMT

Exactly...

in rounded terms

365 a year in bets (fixed) to win an average of $500 a year

roughly 135 profit (over the looooong haul)

I picked a straight hit this year, then dropped it for a few months... only dabbling in pick3 anyway... it's just easier to develop for powerball using the simpler pick3 as a proving ground.

Does anyone have anything that produces more than that playing just one number straight? I thought that was doing good for this scenario... maybe I'm way off...... [ More ]

Reply #18

amilby30 — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:04:45 GMT

lol nice i like that,i too think the key to winning on a regular is very simple patterns and paying atention atleast in georgia .If i were you i would keep my system to myself and just post your numbers and help in that way if you want to help.

Reply #17

LottoBuster — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:58:52 GMT

A system imo is only worth playing if it can win consistently enough that you never have to use a progressive wagering scheme. In other words based on the averages of how many times it hits and the number of plays in the end you always come out ahead.

My problem is I ve got good systems it s just that the odds are so heavily in favor of the state that the only way to come out on top is through an effective filtering method that can greatly reduce the number of plays each time. So far it s be... [ More ]

Reply #16

phileight — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:53:40 GMT

I voted for other. I backtest to prove a concept has won in the past. forward testing is imho more inportant. by that I mean once you have backtested and found it has worked in the past, play it on paper for at least a month. every system I have worked with that shows promise has some hot streaks and long dead spells.

my problem is I can see the streaks about the time they end, but don't recognize the dead zone untill i've wasted some money.

p8

Reply #15

pegeler — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:25:39 GMT

Well, you know what? I'll do that.

As far as your comment Never once has it ever been borne out to be true... If you PM me, I'll give you the link to my blog too. Then you can see for yourself since I post the numbers FAR in advance of the draws.

A final note.. I'm in TN, so let's make this interesting. I'm going to post the plays for the state of LA. (I didn't even know they had a pick 3 until this afternoon.)

Pete

Reply #14

WIN D — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:50:32 GMT

I feel like ..... a ghost!

Hello...... Hello....... anyone ..... anyone..... Beuler ...Beuler

Find a 50/50 proposition bet...... any 50/50 bet...... wait until it goes 9 times in a row then bet it the other way. Be preparred to bet it at least one more day. Then stop.

You will win.....most of the time at a profit.

At least play in that Half of the POOL...... your chances over there are a lot better.

Reply #13

RJOh — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:30:57 GMT

Everyone is looking for some sort of edge, some small advantage that will allow them an easier path to a win but so far unless they're lucky it's only a dream. For most players, one dollars gets them the same results as ten or more 90% of the time. It may not be as much fun to spend only one dollar and lose but it more fun than spending ten or more and getting the same results. No one likes waiting for a hit, but what other choice is available? For some, simply spending more money is not an... [ More ]

Reply #12

WIN D — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:27:02 GMT

LOL..... That is right Mr G

There is going to be a bright ....talented ...creative person that will program some great software that will do this automatically .... It will scan the US and Canada looking for these 50/50 situations that are about to cross the line. They will pop up on our screens... we will load up....and win.

Unfortunately for us...... the on line folks will also be among the first to buy this software....and then they will close out those bets .....just l... [ More ]

Reply #11

takeitez — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:12:32 GMT

with Windy,

What was it you used to call me ? The gunslinger?

eat a big meal, fill the gas tank, pay the bills, Then Gamble.

PS ( it doesn't hurt to give your honey a few $$$)

ez

Reply #10

WIN D — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:04:32 GMT

Scan the US and Canada for 50/50 odds situations that have perverted themselves .....when you find this kind of proposition jump on.

Mostly/All Even Mostly/All Odd

Mostly/All High Mostly/All LOW 50/50 chance bets

Mostly/All IN Mostly/All OUT

Find one of these 50/50 bet situations that has gone 9 or 10 times in a row in one of the Games going on right now then LOAD UP ......and wait.

Reply #9

WIN D — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:31:30 GMT

You can take the girl outa' the country..... but you will never take the country outa' the girl.

You will never take the gamble out of gambling either.

If you do ....... it won't be gambling anymore. No one will cover the bet then.

The End.

.

The best you will ever get is about a 50/50 chance.

Anymore than that .... t... [ More ]

Reply #8

takeitez — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:45:09 GMT

My current LRS has the following stats (against PA pick3 evening)...

51 straight hits in 10,500+ draws (less than half a percent)

returned 15,000 in addition to covering the 10,500 to play (on paper)

Is my math wrong or does it take 28.76 years to make that profit?

Would that mean iy makes $521.55 a year?

ez

Reply #7

Badger — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:04:23 GMT

Just put your numbers up on the Prediction Board, or even in a post. Talk is cheap. No personal offense meant, but we get posts like yours above all the time from new members. Never once has it ever been borne out to be true when the poster is required to post his predictions.

Reply #6

Badger — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:00:57 GMT

I voted other . The system has to be showing a profit over a year's time. Having said that, it also has to be one that a player will not drop because it has (the potential) to go months without a hit. People (I think likely all of us) simply start to bail when the method you're using isn't working , even if you know it will eventually. It's the eventually that starts to make us want to bail. It's one thing if one is playing off the LC's money. Entirely another if one is playing and l... [ More ]

Reply #5

hypersoniq — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:44:30 GMT

The next system would be a set of transforms based on the LRS as the key number. would mean playing more than one number, but should close up the gaps somewhat...

I just hate playing more than one number... even on paper.

Reply #4

pegeler — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:49:27 GMT

A system is Beat when you use MY system! :)

My computer is a #2 pencil and a sheet of paper. It takes me UNDER 5-minutes to figure out my numbers.

Though it DOES NOT happen on a regular basis, I've hit the TN Cash 3 game every draw in the past 2 days. (Mon Tue, Mid and Evening.)

I AVERAGE a win every 4-5 days. No high level math, no sums , no +/- BS. Write 'em down, add 'em up, and WIN.

Since you're not allowed to post your website or blog info unless it's hosted here, can't... [ More ]

Reply #3

LANTERN — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:14:09 GMT

There are 1000 straight numbers so each of them is 0.1% and so there-fore if you would play one of them as a quick pick you would have 0.1% of winning with it, if with your system you are getting more than that then you are doing O.K, I guess.

As there are 1000 numbers, at 1 win per 1000 plays (Numbers) you should only get 10.5 wins out of 10,500 and you are getting 51 wins, to me that seems to be 0.4857% when you should be getting only 0.1% if buying 1 quick pick per each draw for 10,500 dra... [ More ]

Reply #2

BobP — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:42:59 GMT

To be any fun a system has to be playable from the user's point of view. Few will be willing to wait out more then a couple of months without a hit even after a hit. A really good system is one worth putting more then a dollar on its number. BobP

Reply #1

Tenaj — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:49:03 GMT

I voted other. When you hit 4-5 times a week straight and making $1000 a week profit.

Pick 3 : When is the system "Beat"?

hypersoniq — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:06:02 GMT

This would be for a pick 3 system that shoots for straights, produces only one number for each draw.

Is it more important to have short gaps between hits, to beat history, or to have a certain % of hits vs. draws?

My current LRS has the following stats (against PA pick3 evening)...

51 straight hits in 10,500+ draws (less than half a percent)

returned 15,000 in addition to covering the 10,500 to play (on paper)

Has gaps as short as 1 month and as long as 2 and 1/2 years between str... [ More ]