questions on pools & past experiences

Reply #10

csfb — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:23:41 GMT

Well expained, KyFloyd.

I should add, further to my earlier post, that as a matter of course (and without more) absent the original ticket, a claim is denied. But the process does not end there.

That is why we have courts of law as final arbiters on questions of fact and questions of law.

It's a matter of proof.

Reply #9

KY Floyd — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:15:44 GMT

Perhaps you should read the offical rules of more state lotteries. Those things may be perfectly good for claiming a prize if the original ticket can't be presented for some reason. In some states the official rules specificaly prohibit payment without the original ticket, but in others states prizes may be paid without the ticket, as long as the claimant can prove that they are entitled to the prize. Without a ticket it will be harder to prove that you are the lawful owner of a missing ticket,... [ More ]

Reply #8

TheGameGrl — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:33:31 GMT

None of which are acceptable when laying claim to the sum. Read the rules and regulations of state lotteries. THey dont accept photocopies of tickets or someones sworn affadavit.

What they accept is the actual ticket in its entirety based on the game played and time lot in which it is to be claimed by.

Lotto pools can be easily created and dont have to have mumbo jumbo jargon when placing simple guidelines. Surely adults can have some level of what is reasonable and what isnt when it com... [ More ]

Reply #7

csfb — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:07:54 GMT

To re-phrase your question: What happens if the winning ticket is lost, misplaced or can not be found?

No problem. While the best evidence is the original ticket itself, in the absence thereof, you can prove its existence a number of ways.

For example, you have copies of the lost ticket. You have a signed agreement. You have witnesses. Etc, etc...

It's all a matter of PROOF.

Reply #6

KY Floyd — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:15:01 GMT

I don't see much need to address the specific problem of a member dying. It's a given that dying means you're no longer part of the pool. If the pool wants to admit a former member's spouse, that's no different than adding any other new member.

As far as somebody dying while in possession of a winning ticket, I'd lump that in with the plan for all tickets purchased by the pool. Once the pool buys tickets, the tickets need to go somewhere safe, and the pool will need to figure out where. Havin... [ More ]

Reply #5

Stack47 — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:31:05 GMT

It's a unique situation and it could create lots of confusion if the next of kin found the winning ticket and cashed it being unaware it was part of a pool. What if the ticket holder hid the ticket in a safe place and nobody could find it?

On the other side of the coin if a member of the pool died, that too could create some problems if they owed money to the pool and the pool won the jackpot.

had everyone sign a agreement contract with all the necessary details.

Good idea but there... [ More ]

Reply #4

justxploring — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:11:15 GMT

If you are asking about the status of a deceased member of a pool, my answer is to address that on the original agreement. If someone dies after contributing to a pool, of course his family is entitled to his share. After all, he paid for the ticket. However, if that person dies and no further contributions are made, then he is no longer an active member. I've read where retired people and former employees have continued to play in a pool that eventually won, so I don't see why the family can... [ More ]

Reply #3

Coin Toss — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:18:18 GMT

gogirl

My concept of a pool is that all the tickets are pooled, and any prizes are pooled.

If someone pases away, the number of ways the pool is split just reduces by one, or (assuming there was a prize) that person's family gets their share - the contract should be written up that way prior to any tickets being played.

In casinos, if anyone dies on a table (it's happened) or slot machine, whatever coins or credits (slots) or chips that person had goes into their estate.

I want t... [ More ]

Reply #2

four4me — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:17:12 GMT

My question is this? The person who holds the winning ticket, what happens if by chance that individual passes away? All the pool members have copies of their playing tickets. Now what?

Appreciate any feedback

I would think it would go to his/her spouse or whomever their next of kin is.

Reply #1

tiggs95 — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:13:22 GMT

I use to help run a lottrey pool in a post office in Fla and also use to run numbers for people at a dog track and if I had it to do over again I would not do it..Good luck and hope you the best...

questions on pools & past experiences

gogirl — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:35:01 GMT

I am thinking of forming a pool. A long time ago I formed a small pool for Fantasy 5 (florida) had everyone sign a agreement contract with all the necessary details. At that time Fantasty 5 was running only 3 days a week it was easy, today it is 7 times a week. Anyway we won $547.50 in just 3 wks of playing one member opted out so he had to sign out on the sheet. I did the wheeling it was a lot of work.

My question is this? The person who holds the winning ticket, what happens if by ch... [ More ]