The Implications of Cracking the Code..

Reply #135

RJOh — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 08:38:31 GMT

I'm the type that if I wonand I know its because of someones method THEY GET HALF no matter what! The way I look at it, I'd have never won if not or them........I've never gotten a dime from anyone who I helped win! But their greedy hand is always there to take you system to win with.

If you join LP hoping some member winning with numbers you suggested in a post will share part of their winnings with you then you are going to be very disappointed.

Reply #134

time*treat — Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:39:01 GMT

States not only lowered the payouts. They also roll up slower. Plus, with so many more states having lottery, and the multistate games, the money doesn't pile up in one single-state game like it used to.

Reply #133

RJOh — Tue, 25 Dec 2007 12:01:58 GMT

This will probably never happen again. Now days it's unlikely that the jackpots of any game will have a cash value several times the cost of buying all the possible combinations.

I can remember when Ohio had a 6/49 game that started at $8M or so and rolled at least $4M after ever drawing when there were no winners and had jackpots of $40M+. Now their 6/49 game starts at $1M and is lucky to roll $100K and never gets to over $8M.

What happened? Did players start picking winners more oft... [ More ]

Reply #132

Stack47 — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:35:32 GMT

This is story is becoming an urban legend.

A Melbourne, Australia based syndicate had raised millions for overseas lottery investments and the Virginia 6/44 Lotto game was one of its targets. The idea was to buy all the possible combinations (7,059,052) when the jackpot reached a certain amount.

They needed 1,411,811 play slips because each one only had room for 5 combinations. The first problem would be getting that many play slips and filling them out would have been a full time job.... [ More ]

Reply #131

Thoth — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:00:33 GMT

LotteryBreaker, I've heard you make similar comments a few other times. I'm not sure of your particular method or strategy, but I bet it can have mathematics applied to it in terms of odds and probability.

It would be interesting to apply some sort of formula to your strategy because it would tell you exactly why and how it works and moreover, how often it should do so. Don't you use some sort of indexing system

Reply #130

pacattack05 — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 04:28:08 GMT

No crack and no code. I just say no

Reply #129

RJOh — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 01:09:01 GMT

All these theories and comments about breaking a code and predicting the next lottery drawing results accurately ignore the fact that many lotteries preform test drawings before the live drawings to make sure their equipment is working correctly. In fact one poster complained she was cheated after seeing the results of test drawings before one of the PowerBall live drawings when she discovered she had all five numbers in one of those test drawings.

There may be a way to pick a small group of... [ More ]

Reply #128

Lotterologist — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:02:17 GMT

The Father of Card Counting and author of the book entitled, Beat The Dealer , Ed Thorpe, comes to mind.

Reply #127

nanolike — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:56:17 GMT

This may possible be the best thing I've ever read on Lottery Post! Its as if you read my mind.

I have told people almost these same words for years but only wish I'd have said it.

Great!

You rock Grumple Dumple.

I think these types of thoughts come from those of us who have cracked the code. Trouble is, I've tested the water myself here on lottery post and it is true people treat you like crap, and even if you do try to give them a partial bit of your system, there not sharing an... [ More ]

Reply #126

Lotterologist — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:06:58 GMT

LOL

Reply #125

time*treat — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:24:03 GMT

In other words, what they can't make impractical they'll try to make ill-eagle(sic) . Changing the matrix or changing the rules, most casual players won't complain.

Since there is a finite set of combos, and the winner is in there somewhere, the true issue is to filter out the losing ones.

Reply #124

RJOh — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:00:23 GMT

There are no rules that prevent you from buying all the combinations if you have the time and the use of enough terminals to do it. The syndicate that won the Virgina lottery tied up the terminals at 3 seven eleven stores for 3 or 4 days trying to buy all the possible combinations.

Shorty afterward, Virgina and other states installed rules to prevent any person or group controlling lottery terminals for long period of time. Now it's almost impossible for a person or small group to buy al... [ More ]

Reply #123

GASMETERGUY — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:24:08 GMT

If memory serves me right (and it usually doesn't) the syndicate in Virginia used a purchase order to cover all the possible combinations. As there were no rules against this, the lottory people had to let the transaction go forward.

Now the rules have been changed and most, if not all, state lottories require that all tickets be purchased at a legal terminal, in person, and that a playslip must be filled out.

Now before some nitwit says Quick Picks aren't done with playslips... [ More ]

Reply #122

four4me — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:27:37 GMT

I don't know if there is a copy of this rule. But think about what you are saying

If you were to try and play all the combinations for mega millions you would need to fill out

175,711,539 combinations on how many ever play slips you could get your hands on. This is not something you could do in a couple hours let alone a few weeks.

There was some group that tried this in Virginia i think and they went to lottery headquarters. and they told them no way.

5 + 1Jackpot 1... [ More ]

Reply #121

pacattack05 — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:15:00 GMT

I already cracked the code. I make 64,346.28 bucks a day...net. Going to all those supermarkets to cash all those tickets gets really frustrating at times, but I'll get used to it eventually.

I'm still working for a living because I get stir crazy at home If I didn't have to work. One day I'll stop working.

Reply #120

Tinker — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:30:24 GMT

Is there a copy of the rules that say I can't buy all the combinations? If this is true, what combinations can I buy? Stupid rules. Stupid laws.

Reply #119

RJOh — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:23:18 GMT

There's really no secret to picking the winning combination of any lottery game since they all have a fixed amount of possible outcomes and if you play them all you will win the game every time. Now days it's rare that a game top prize will pay more than it cost to buy all the possible combinations but once in a while a Pick5 jackpot will exceed the amount it cost to buy all the possible combinations.

Years ago I read of investment syndicates that would buy all the possible combinations fo... [ More ]

Reply #118

RJOh — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:23:55 GMT

Actually most Pick3 games pay $500 for a $1 bet on a straight hit, so hitting a straight 1/500 or .2% of the times would be breaking even. Hitting a straight only 1% or 5 of 500 times would show a profit of $2000 or a 400% profit. Making money on a box hit would be harder but you wouldn't have to be any where near 100% accurate to make it happen.

Reply #117

time*treat — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:17:49 GMT

Given how crap-tacular the payout is on a box p3, you need near 100% accuracy to make it worth your while.

I think p3 players enjoy the action of the game, like sports fishermen enjoy catching a big fish ... then throwing it back .

Hey ever'one, look at my winning system. I won $40 an' I only played $39!!

Maybe I'll make that the title of a thread on the p3 forum and see how many views it gets.

Reply #116

time*treat — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:09:07 GMT

Original Post by pumpi76

Have you ever thought about the implications that Cracking the Code (pick3) will have? Criminal wise..

You would get more attention from criminals not already in high office.

I mean i think that if you were to find the Holy Grail that will crack pick3 and it was available on the internet, besides the lottery going broke, don't you think that some criminals will roam free?

The lottery (for the umpteenth time) would (a) change the rules (b) change the... [ More ]

Reply #115

four4me — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:02:20 GMT

Grumple Dumple wrote if not outright put an end to it.

This will never happen in any instance the lottery's have threshold limits on numbers that can be played. When they receive so many bets say for 123 and the payout exceeds a given amount they stop taking bets on that number. So even if there were such a code people could only bet up to a given dollar amount before the number would be shut off.

Since no such program exist or will ever exist except hypothetically the lottery dosen't ne... [ More ]

Reply #114

RJOh — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:49:35 GMT

You are not the first person to have some ideas how lottery programs could be made to work better. Creators of commercial software sometimes welcome customers input but their software is designed to appeal to the most people so they rarely customize them for the benefit of one customer, that's the reason I started designing my own. Now when my program doesn't work as I want it to I can change it if I have the skill.

Reply #113

Grumple Dumple — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:56:07 GMT

I'm intentionally going overboard here ... but hypothetically speaking ... what if someone has already discovered a phenomenon naturally present within randomly occurring numbers that allows all future drawings to be predicted in advance with an unvarying and permanently-sustainable 100% accuracy rate throughout and this person understands how it works ... and let's say that this person wants to reveal it to the world at large [just because its such an impressive phenomenon and for the sake of b... [ More ]

Reply #112

JAP69 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:06:23 GMT

From what I have seen of postings using software info there seems to be that they are programmed in the same direction of thought.

Possibly another variation of programming would increase the odds. The programming needs to be expanded using new ideas to go with the old.

I have a lot of thoughts on it but I am not a programmer.

Reply #111

four4me — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:49:48 GMT

please don't take what i wrote out of context.

THE LOTTERY KNOWS people would continue to try and devise ways to beat them at these games all the while knowing that it's impossible to predict with 100% accuracy on a daily basis what numbers will be drawn.

Any system that wins money could be called a good system. But cracking the code implies that you can win more often if not every draw.

I've been playing the lottery for over 30 years going to different places throughout time and i r... [ More ]

Reply #110

RJOh — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:12:16 GMT

Even before the Internet was popular, people were advertising in lottery magazines that they had come up with a guaranteed way of winning a lottery. The group that won the Virgina lottery showed it could be done if you had enough money by simply buying every possible combinations. Today lotteries seldom have a prize that pays more than it cost to buy all the combination so that option is not always on the table.

That group had an opportunity to spend $10M to try and buy up all the combinatio... [ More ]

Reply #109

RJOh — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:27:12 GMT

........people would continue to try and devise ways to beat them at these games all the while knowing that it's impossible to predict with 100% accuracy on a daily basis what numbers will be drawn

I didn't realize there were people trying to come up with a strategy or system that would be accurate 100% of the time. I don't play pick3 but I would think any strategy/system that got a box or straight hit better than 25% of the times would be a winning system.

I play the pick5 and jackpot g... [ More ]

Reply #108

bobby623 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:23:31 GMT

Lot of interesting stuff here.

I say, to each his own.

But, according to an email I found today in my Yahoo mail box, the code has been cracked!

Apparently, the owner of a Quick Pick service has discovered the secret and is selling it to all comers, if they have a PayPal account.

For a measly $5 per line, that's right, $5 per line, the service guarantees a win, or get your money back!!

You get your line, or lines, after your payment clears, not before.

The service has winning... [ More ]

Reply #107

four4me — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:44:20 GMT

When pick 3 lottery was played on the streets by they bookies before the states took over they used to use the 9 th race at the track to determine what the numbers was... whatever horse came in 1st 2nd 3rd that was the number for that day. These bookies new they had a cash cow not only did they know there was no way for the general public to win consistently they knew they could control the out come of the game and either take or lay off on certain bets.

Hence the government made gambling on

Reply #106

Stack47 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:25:09 GMT

I guess this means the implications of cracking the code is that players can only buy losing tickets.

But believe it or not; they would still have players.

Reply #105

GASMETERGUY — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:01:08 GMT

tapper7606

I agree the lotery is not a science. I agree that each event (drawing) is unique unto itself. I agreee that these events which have already occured have no bearing on future events.

So what does that tell us? First and foremost it tells us that the code (whatever that may be) will not be mathematical in nature. If not mathematical, then what else?

Perhaps patterns are the answer. Each drawing will create a definite series of patterns. Will these pattern

Reply #104

GASMETERGUY — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:39:12 GMT

The people will not have a choice. The lottory will be the ones to declare only Quick Picks and this will circumvent any winning system that is developed.

Reply #103

RJOh — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:10:52 GMT

Some time when I've stood in line for lottery tickets, there have been people buying beer and cigarettes and even they will mention some crap about losing money playing lotteries as if spending more on their smokes and beer than I usually spend on lottery tickets for the week makes them more responsible.

Do you really think people who buy lottery tickets don't know they are gambling? I assume that those beer drinkers and smokers know what they don't piss away is going up in smoke without me... [ More ]

Reply #102

tapper7606 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:33:41 GMT

There are hobbies to some people.

Remote control model planes , boats and whatever remote , art work , skiing , programming computers , and the list goes on.

And to some there is the lottery challenge.

I don't disagree, JAP69, as long as the rent is paid, there's food on the table, the kids have clean clothes, etc. I'm fine with it from an entertainment view. It's when player's chase the so-called code and it affects the family's quality of life is when I have a problem. Play respo... [ More ]

Reply #101

tapper7606 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:24:29 GMT

...so trying to beat the game is the entertainment not buying the tickets.

A very interesting perspective, but it doesn't change the fact that while you can win it, you can't beat it.

Reply #100

JAP69 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:23:11 GMT

Reply #99

pumpi76 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:12:08 GMT

You know what i think, will break the state (and i think the lottery knows this), what will break the state is LP and lottery Dna but in the form of a lottery channel with its predictors, commentaries and advices on how to play the lottery...LP and lottery DNA exactly the way it is but in the form of a LOTTERY CHANNEL...Not just any tv channel But it will have to be a major cable TV channel with the power that HBO channel has..

Provided the lottery didn't change the numbers at the last minute... [ More ]

Reply #98

psykomo — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:31:03 GMT

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Reply #97

RJOh — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:51:29 GMT

Maybe to you and others who buy quick picks, time spent trying to beat a lottery game is wasted but to players who do spend time trying it's time well spent as well as being entertaining.

There are LP members who post predictions for lotteries they don't play so trying to beat the game is the entertainment not buying the tickets.

Reply #96

tapper7606 — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:08:26 GMT

RJoh - The point I am trying to get across is stop wasting time trying to beat the lottery. Even when you win it you haven't beaten it, you have simply been lucky. Just play for the entertainment value. If you win, good for you - if you lose, make sure you have not wagered more than you can afford to lose.

Reply #95

RJOh — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:46:22 GMT

tapper,

70% of lottery players agree with your statement Lottery has nothing to do with logical reasoning , that's the reason they buy quick picks. As you sensed, many LP posters think they can improve their odds of winning by using a strategy or software to pick their numbers which may be partly based on the results of previous drawings. So what is news about that?

What would you expect lottery players on a lottery forum to discuss? Even players who buy quick picks come here to s... [ More ]

Reply #94

tapper7606 — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:54:25 GMT

GASMETERGUY - Lottery is not a science. Lottery has nothing to do with logical reasoning. It has to do with events (drawings). Events that are not contiguous. Each event is unique unto itself and events that have already occured have no bearing on future events.

I am sensing that some posters here seem to think the results of the first drawing has some bearing on the results of the second drawing and the second drawing has some bearing on the results of the third drawing, etc., etc. Su... [ More ]

Reply #93

Stack47 — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:22:08 GMT

And when the code is discovered, only Quick Picks will be allowed.

On page 2 it was established this code could accurately predict the next pick-3 drawing. If we knew which number was going to be drawn, why would anybody buy a QP with another number

Reply #92

Stack47 — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:45:42 GMT

I've never read the exact details but they apparently used the same RNG program for their pick-3, pick-4, and pick-5 games. The Cash5 drawing used the U key or unique to create 5 different numbers from 1 to 39. Somebody forgot to change to the R key or repeat for the Cash3 and Cash4 games so it was impossible for any digit to repeat and none of the combinations had double digits in over a month.

Tennessee's change to an RNG drawing was big topic on LP and it draws Cash3 and Cash4 twice a... [ More ]

Reply #91

Curious2k3 — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:37:40 GMT

What if we proposed a new route to wander along choosing the word Rhythm rather than code. Numbers have an alarming (and quite distinct) appearance to resonate together, and near each other. In and of themselves, they are Rhythmic in nature.

My 2 Cents

Reply #90

GASMETERGUY — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:10:29 GMT

Hold on there, tapper7606. This science of the lottory is just in its infantile stage. There is much yet to be done. Just because we can't do what we wish today is no reason to shut the door on the future.

There have been many times in science when logical reasoning said You can't do that! and then someone dang fool went off and did it. For centuries learned men said man will never be able to fly. The the Wright Bros. went off and did it. A recnet example is the discovery of di... [ More ]

Reply #89

tapper7606 — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:59:25 GMT

Stack47 - I am not a programmer so I cannot answer your question. However, what you propose would not allow for random generation of numbers.

I am only peripherally aware of the Tennessee Lottery issue and I don't know the details, but feel certain I can get them. Without that detail I cannot speak to the Tennessee security issue. Let me see what I can find out.

Reply #88

Stack47 — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:47:09 GMT

I did a search and last April Pacattack05 wrote:

I believe that there is a code to be cracked, however, it will be out of reach to the mere mortal for a long time to come. I say this because the code is so complex and ever changing. I'm talking about hitting on a daily basis.When someone finds the cure to the common cold, then maybe we'll have a fair shot, but until then, there are just way too many variables involved.

And I don't think we necessarily want a cure for the cold, because i... [ More ]

Reply #87

time*treat — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:09:36 GMT

Stack47, your points have been stated many ways by many people.

In fact, I even went through the trouble of explaining how to access the equivalent computing power of this super computer , because that was the 'only thing missing'.

That, of course, was met by this thread taking off on some wild tangent.

I think some folks are more interested in flights of fancy (which usually involve poor math skills) than the nuts and bolts of any real-world possibilities.

I'd be a straight p3 sh... [ More ]

Reply #86

Stack47 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:46:05 GMT

Apparently I have been misunderstanding what the use of the term code actually refers to in this thread.

A better topic would be the implications of finding a method of choosing numbers along with a betting strategy that consistently shows a profit every year .

In this thread the use of the term code is based on the assumption states lotteries planted money trees and would still run their games at a loss if somebody had access to a Super Computer and could win billions. In real life i... [ More ]

Reply #85

Stack47 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:04:10 GMT

Would it be possible to program an RNG so each drawing result would be 3 different digits (4 different in a pick-4 game) in every drawing?

That would be a security breach and no lottery would allow it.

I apologize for using your comments out of context, but I have to question lottery security after what happen in the Tennessee lottery. After the fact they claimed there was an error in the program but there is a LP member that posted an email from somebody in the Tennessee Lottery saying... [ More ]

Reply #84

RJOh — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:36:25 GMT

I don't believe there's a code that can predict the next numbers to be drawn during a random drawing but I do believe there may be patterns in past drawings that once identified could help one reduce the number pool and have all the winning numbers most of the time resulting in better odds of winning something. Many have tried to find such patterns, some even using AI software but I'm not aware of any one who has. I think the word code is being confused with the word patterns in this thread.... [ More ]

Reply #83

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:02:27 GMT

Hi Stack47.

Not sure, but I think maybe what I was referring to is being misunderstood.

I was referring to the possibility of some kind of objective information naturally-present within randomly-occurring numbers that could allow for correct future predictions [which is the kind of thing that I thought was being called a code ] and was not making any reference to the lottery creating a code to benefit players.

Apparently I have been misunderstanding what the use of the term code ac... [ More ]

Reply #82

tapper7606 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:53:50 GMT

I am very familiar with the Pennsylvania illegal drawing (no, I did not work for the PA Lottery). What they did could not be done today - too many checks and balances plus pre-draw procedures are video taped and independent auditors are present.

RNG are in no way connected to the central system, it is prohibited. That would be a security breach and no lottery would allow it. So, they cannot search the wagered database.

Reply #81

Stack47 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:35:26 GMT

I am interested in what would happen if someone *did* actually prove the existence of such an unlikely thing to the world at large.

Have you ever seen a live ball drawing?

You can use your imagination and think of ways a lottery could do something that could produce a predetermined outcome but if there was a code, they would have to do that something every drawing. It's a fact that live ball drawings can be rigged by an operator because this was done in Pennsylvania many years ago. But... [ More ]

Reply #80

tapper7606 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:40:56 GMT

Thanks for the welcome, four4me. I have read your earlier posts and find them to be rather accurate.

Re: your hypothetical scenario. Possible, but HIGHLY unlikely. Statisically, one could go 999 days (which assumes $1 wagered straight per day on the same 3 digits) and not have a winner. That's almost 3 years. Yikes! Now when you throw in boxed wagers that's a different situation. You can have 3-way (all 3 digits different) and 6-way boxed numbers (two of the 3 digits alike), both with... [ More ]

Reply #79

four4me — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:58:22 GMT

Welcome aboard tapper7606 we welcome your expertise in drawing numbers and I'm sure there are people who might have lots of questions about how lottery drawings are conducted.

There are some people on this site who swear they know beforehand what the next number is going to be in almost any pick 3 games state wise. Either they have developed a system that gets them into the ball park or they are using software to narrow down the selections. Some of these people have proved it by posting the... [ More ]

Reply #78

tapper7606 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:58:15 GMT

We could go back and forth, forever, on this one and we would still be in the same place. All I can say is, I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Reply #77

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:37:18 GMT

I am certainly not going to make a claim at this particular moment that I can prove the existence of a code [or any similarly unlikely phenomenon] within the Pick 3 and 4 and other type lottery games, but I am interested in what would happen if someone *did* actually prove the existence of such an unlikely thing to the world at large.

Would you then believe in it tapper or do you think you might would continue to deny it for a time even in the face of irrefutable proof? And in finally

Reply #76

tapper7606 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:14:06 GMT

There are 1,000 possible outcomes for 3 exact digits every time a drawing is conducted. It's even possible to draw the same 3 digits two days in a row (I've done that) but the odds were 1,000 to 1 each time. ...observation...better judgement... has nothing to do with it.

Reply #75

tapper7606 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:09:13 GMT

With all due respect, I would ask you to prove there is a code, and you can't because it doesn't exist. I have shown you why it doesn't, now it's your turn to show me it does. I do not take your tone to be combative. We're good.

Reply #74

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:08:36 GMT

Without meaning to put you on the spot pumpi76, I would like to ask you exactly what you mean by the term code ?

I would assume that you mean some kind of intelligible real information present in past random number results that somehow actually allows for the correct anticipation of future drawings ahead of time. Is that the correct interpretation for your particular use of the term?

I just wanted clarification on exactly what you yourself meant in using that particular word with regard

Reply #73

Newb — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:49:53 GMT

There maybe no code but observation allows you to make a better judgement over what numbers to select. I've found it's better to search several possible outcomes rather than a single outcome.

Reply #72

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:25:27 GMT

With all due respect [and without meaning to appear combative] you would atually have to prove that there *isn't* a code before you could make the statement that there isn't a code.

Reply #71

justxploring — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:17:06 GMT

Tapper7606 wrote: There is no wizard behind the curtain. As I stated in my first post, if you win, chalk it up to dumb luck - and move on (quit).

I agree with everything you wrote about 98% of the time. Why else would I be hopeful that someday I will win a jackpot? It's that 2% that convinces me to keep playing.

I realize in mathematics there are absolutes, so either 4 + 4 = 8 or it doesn't. It can never equal 9 or 8.5, but people who play the lottery and thing there is a system or... [ More ]

Reply #70

tapper7606 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:47:06 GMT

I am certain because I have worked in the Lottery industry for 30 years. I cut my teeth (first day on the job) on Play 3/Pick 3. Trust me when I tell you THERE IS NO CODE. I am amazed at the stuff in this thread. It borders on delusional rationalization.

Just remember, it's gambling. You are taking a chance. The odds are always in favor of the 'house', otherwise they (casinos/lotteries) would be out of business. Anyone can get lucky and win a few times, even hit a large jackpot, but if... [ More ]

Reply #69

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:51:40 GMT

Backed myself into a tight corner right away, didn't I?

I should have asked you: How can you be so certain that there is no code [or a similar phenomenon] present inside genuinely random numbers?

Seems a good question from my end, so I *am* asking it: How can you be so certain

Reply #68

tapper7606 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:39:27 GMT

So show me why I am wrong. I'm all 'ears.

Reply #67

Grumple Dumple — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:47:34 GMT

That's why it can't be broken - it doesn't exist.

You're wrong.

Reply #66

Lotterologist — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:30:20 GMT

You're welcome, Kola, and thanks for the info.

Good Luck

Reply #65

tapper7606 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:45:30 GMT

Cracking the Code? CRACKING THE CODE? Are you folks crazy? THERE IS NO CODE!!! The odds of getting the Pick 3 numbers in exact order are 1,000 to 1. Always have been, always will be. Every Pick 3 drawing has the same odds for a straight wager - 1,000 to 1. In other words it's dumb luck if you win. There is no code, system or whatever you want to call it. That's why it can't be broken - it doesn't exist. Take a math course for crying out loud.

Reply #64

Kola — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:26:11 GMT

Dark energy is more encompassing than dark matter, and is said to account for 70% of the energy in the universe, while dark matter accounts for 26%.

Still, thanks for the interesting articles Lotterologist.

Reply #63

Lotterologist — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:01:28 GMT

Hubble Space Telescope finds ring of Dark Matter:

www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM5SHV681F_index_0.html

Reply #62

Lotterologist — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:22:27 GMT

www.physorg.com/news85310822.html

Reply #61

Kola — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:43:30 GMT

or rather more associated with dark energy...

Reply #60

Lotterologist — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:26:51 GMT

The force of gravity is associated with dark matter.

Key digits are 5, 7, 9.

Reply #59

Kola — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:07:47 GMT

I agree JAP69.

As we know, Intelligence is not book learning or the ability to regurgitate the ideas that are read. There are different parts to intelligence such as physical, mental, emotional, kinesthetic and spiritual which fuse together into creative expression. Some of us are well developed in some areas, and stunted in others. ALL of those elements serve to make for a very integrated human being. To the degree that you are stunted in any one area defines the limits of your Intelligen... [ More ]

Reply #58

JAP69 — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:35 GMT

There is no smartest person in the world.

Never will be.

What one person knows another person does not know.

We all have our own individual knowledge.

You know what I may not know and I know what you may not know.

Reply #57

pumpi76 — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:02:13 GMT

Well the same thing they said about Brian Green...I remember reading an article like 9 years ago with the same titled about Brian Green and around those lines (Some dude) might be the next Einstein ....I also read an article that said Some dude might be the Smartest Person Ever (notice the difference) again talking about Brian Green...LOL..

And that's just talk, i don't think no one with a skate board will ever solve the Unified Grand Theory not now not ever...And just because you solve... [ More ]

Reply #56

eddessaknight — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:35:06 GMT

Pumpi, et al-

WILL THE LOTTERY BE NEXT ???

Quote:

...has come up with what may be the Grand Unified Theory.

That's the holy grail of physics that scientists have been searching for ever since Albert Einstein presented his General Theory of Relativity nearly 100 years ago.

Even more remarkable is that Lisi, who has a Ph.D. but no permanent university affiliation, solves the problem without resorting to exotic dimensions, string theory or exceptionally complex mathemat... [ More ]

Reply #55

Coin Toss — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:26:42 GMT

As for Cracking the code these games existed in one form of another before personal computers, heck, even before calculators. They've withstood everything they've ever been up against (except that team play effort in the Virginia lottery, which can no longer be done.)

(Before state lotteries the pick 3 started in the ghettos and was called policy and it was a 5 cent bet. Then the Outfit got involved, it became The Number or Numbers and was (and is) $1.

When I see a state, any... [ More ]

Reply #54

eddessaknight — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:22:00 GMT

Is this why we haven't heard anything further about Ms. Cho Yew Woba (Woba Sisters) who reportedly confirmed bank accounts by playing their LB posted holy grail of winning secret 3 picks ???

EddessaKnight

Reply #53

justxploring — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:21:48 GMT

But did you tell them your money was from winning the lottery? I only mentioned it because it was in all the local papers here 4 years ago when this man won Lotto and his donation was returned. That's how I just found the article online ..I remembered his name. No big deal - just mentioned it posted the link FYI. I suppose a lot of people donate money after winning a contest, a lottery game, and so on, but most religious organizations would never know. Perhaps this was a local decision. I... [ More ]

Reply #52

Stack47 — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:26:05 GMT

Now the challenge is - figure out a way to positively, in advance, identify which balls will be released.

I wrote the digits 0 - 9 on slips of paper, mixed them up, and drew them one at time out of my ball cap. The first line was the first 3 digits, the second line was 2nd, 3rd, and 4th digits, I continued through the ninth line where I used the 9th, 10th, and 1st digit and 10th, 1st, and 2nd on the tenth line. Since I had each digit in the 1st position, which gave me a 1 in 100 chance of wi... [ More ]

Reply #51

Stack47 — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:21:23 GMT

Pumpi,

If this discussion was about theoretical physics, quantum geometry, the Big Bang, or the affects a blackhole has on the surrounding matter, Bryan Green and Stephen Hawking's opinions would be very important. But other than hearing the lottery described as a blackhole that pulls the money out of our pockets, I don't see how we could use their genius to crack a code that you can't identify.

One of the arguments against RNG drawings is that we can't see the mechanics that creates the... [ More ]

Reply #50

hennybogan — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:50:35 GMT

I have NEVER had The Salvation Army return any of my checks, money orders, or cash contributions.

Reply #49

JAP69 — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:30:56 GMT

You are correct that is does not count in most forms of the game .

But for two of three correct you can back up your three digit bet with an exact pair wgaer in many states.

50 to 1 I believe it is.

I would love to have exact pair wagers in S.C.

Look at my signature. I have the 532 there which I played mid-day today.

632 came out. That is x32 exact.

And I only played three numbers on todays mid. And I was on the serious lookout for the X32 but did not cover all position one and

Reply #48

justxploring — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:06:09 GMT

Well you can cross the Salvation Army off your list. They won't accept money won from playing the lottery. The Salvation Army counsels people with addictions, one of them being gambling and, yes, some people spend their paychecks hoping for a lottery win. So they feel that it would be hypocritical to accept a donation. Here's an example of a man who sent them $100,000 and his check was returned. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20030102/ai_n9615603

Regarding good people wi... [ More ]

Reply #47

RJOh — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:53:20 GMT

When you're playing Pick5 and jackpot games with 5 or 6 positions and a choice of 35 or more numbers per each positions, the above chart makes predicting pick3 winners look a lot easier. You can only be wrong 9x9x9 time but being right about one or two positions doesn't count in most forms of the game. With the pick5 and jackpot games, being right about 2 or 3 positions will win your dollar back and sometimes more.

Reply #46

JAP69 — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:38:01 GMT

Do a serious study on how straight position falls to aid you in selecting.

This is the odd pr combos.

I use position one as a guide.

What digit dominates in position one here.

The odd digit.

then an even digit will sneak in here and there.

So when I have 1 even 2 odd or all odd combo I give consideration on position one .

Study your 1,000 straights and you will figure it out.

Helps lower your odds if anything.

South Carolina

Reply #45

JAP69 — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:19:51 GMT

It's about accurately predicting what the next ball will be.

I think so

It,s all right here.

Which one will it be from each position .

Position 1___0123456789

Position 2___0123456789

position 3___0123456789

Reply #44

bobby623 — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:01:36 GMT

This is pretty deep stuff!

I'm from the old school. I use a pencil and paper system to help me 'guess' what the winning numbers will be. Sometimes I'm right, most times I'm wrong - usually by one number!

Here's a challenge.

Go buy one of those minature Bingo machines. Put in 10 balls numbered 0 to 9. Crank the handle a few times and then release a ball.

Restock the machine, crank it a few times and let it release a ball.

Restock the machine, crank it a few times and let it relea... [ More ]

Reply #43

RJOh — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:27:27 GMT

God Speed to those with youth, time, and motivation to seek the truth.

You left out knowledge and too often that only comes with age.

Reply #42

hennybogan — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:05:23 GMT

pumpi76, I have a college degree in math and taught middle school and high school math for six years from 1972-1978. I love math because it comes from God and not from man. Math is everywhere in nature - or in everything God has created - which is everything. There is no such animal as A RANDOM EVENT. It only appears that way, since we see things through a DARK CLOUD. Using Differential Equations, you can prove that the bee uses the minimum amount of wax to build the strongest structure possible... [ More ]

Reply #41

hennybogan — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:41:32 GMT

pumpi76 I thoroughly enjoy reading your posts. However, your assumption here is that BAD PEOPLE will be the first ones to determine THE HOLY GRAIL of the lottery system. I look at it in another way. I am praying that someone good will be the first one to crack the nut or to nail it. I am not good! There has only been one person that was good! But, when I win, I give 5% of my winnings to the person that sold me the ticket, and purchase a money order that is 10% of the winnings. Last week I had

Reply #40

MADDOG10 — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:04:07 GMT

Very well said four4me, in my opinion that is it in a nutshell....

Reply #39

time*treat — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:41:26 GMT

Heh, Four4me RJOh stole some of my thunder

I'm going to predict that an LP member will hit a jackpot before either Brian Greene or Stephen Hawking (no s ). Being brilliant at physics doesn't equal being brilliant at lottery. If it did, physics profs wouldn't be slogging it out at universities oogling the interns. They'd be rich ... with an intern. Being great at basketball doesn't automatically make a great baseball player. Not saying any names.

i believe a supercomputer could crack pi... [ More ]

Reply #38

RJOh — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:34:23 GMT

...If you don't believe that the code can be crack then ask yourself the question... Why are you here Why are you at LP?

I come here because LP is the best place on the Internet to get news about what's going on with lotteries all over the country. Until you recently stated posting about cracking a code, I hadn't heard much about it and I still haven't heard any convincing evidence that one exists. Everyone have their own ideas on how to win a lottery which makes LP a good place to read a... [ More ]

Reply #37

four4me — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:32:08 GMT

pumpi76 you are the one that thinks there is some secret code that hasn't been broken maybe a few people believe that along with you. Most of us understand what the real deal is LUCK of the draw.

You are the one who thinks you need a super computer to crack the code and you might have a few followers that think you might be onto something with that idea. But the fact is the computer in front of most people has the power to make any amount of calculations necessary to win a jackpot. But the p... [ More ]

Reply #36

pumpi76 — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:37:44 GMT

The lotteries asked people like Green and Hawking to find the best method where their drawings would be the most random.

Is that ego crap i can't stand...that you believe there are smart people out there like Brian Green and Stephen Hawkins...There aren't people out there like Brian Green and Stephen Hawkings...Both of them are the number 1 and number 2 SMARTEST PERSONS IN THE WORLD...There aren't geniuses like Brian Green and Stephen Hawkings in the world!!!...Just because someone is the s... [ More ]