A Question for EVERYONE

Reply #45

JADELottery — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:37:46 GMT

the following link and this posted topic are related. i'm referencing the link for future replies.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/167739

Reply #44

KY Floyd — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 06:24:28 GMT

Maybe it would be easier for people to see if the OP posted some real data instead of just making it up and offering vague claims. Of course if you think you see something you could step up and do what they can't or won't do.

Reply #43

JADELottery — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:52:43 GMT

from the replies i've been reading, it looks like this one has completely gone over everyone's head.

i'll keep monitoring, but i can say that most of you are not getting it.

Reply #42

awwcrap — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:16:44 GMT

wow, my feeble brain is going to overload ,after reading the replies to this post

Reply #41

RJOh — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 00:44:11 GMT

I checked all the patterns for all MegaMillions results since its matrix changed 261 drawings ago and two have repeated eleven and twelve times (8.8%) so all my picks for tonight drawing will fit one of those patterns.

Reply #40

time*treat — Tue, 25 Dec 2007 22:08:10 GMT

My take on patterns this broad (one pattern can cover several combos) is to pick a very small group, or maybe even just one, and set with it. It's not going to be fireworks, but you won't be all over the map.

In either case, it looks like the PB numbers give you a list of numbers to not play in groups larger than 1 or 2, among your MM sets.

Reply #39

RJOh — Tue, 25 Dec 2007 03:33:24 GMT

Nothing came of trying the template idea with RC5 so it's back to MM one more time.

Reply #38

KY Floyd — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:53:59 GMT

If you think only the dates are changed to disguise the supposed pattern, look at this:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en safe=off q=%2205++15++18++23++46%22+ btnG=Search

Now try it with some numbers from the claimed pattern:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en safe=off q=%228%2C+12%2C+28%2C+30%2C+31%2C+45%22+ btnG=Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en safe=off q=%229%2C+12%2C+28%2C+30%2C+32%2C+49%22+ btnG=Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en safe=off q=%229%2C+10%2C+13%2... [ More ]

Reply #37

RJOh — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:36:11 GMT

Rolling Cash5 rolled to $300K+, so maybe I'll try again tomorrow but with a mix of higher groups.

Reply #36

RJOh — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 01:26:52 GMT

Then winning numbers for 12/23/07 21 23 32 36 39 - C C E E E, I matched two twice for $2. Nothing to brag about.

Reply #35

RJOh — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:19:46 GMT

Using A=1-8,B=9-15,C=16-23,D=24-31 and E=32-39 to pick 22 lines to play for Ohio Rolling Cash5 today gave me a good mix of all 39 numbers. Since I couldn't find a predominate pattern I gave the letters A to E a value of 1 to 5 and picked pattern combinations that added up to 13-18 which was the most common sums of the patterns in the actual drawings file.

A C D E E

A B C E E

B C C D E

A C C E E

A B D D E

A B C D D

A B D E E

A C C E E

A... [ More ]

Reply #34

RJOh — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:53:32 GMT

The dates were part of the pattern so disguising the dates also disguised the pattern.

Reply #33

time*treat — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:20:45 GMT

This has been occuring for 10 years running without an error 100 % accurate.

So naturally if you know what was produced from basket 1 you can predict the numbers for basket 2

but every time you got it cornered and play the numbers thats when it skips then if you dont play it then it goes right back to its normal running, without error so if 25 26 shows in basket 1, then next to show in basket 2 is of course 25 26 it is perfect, almost as if it is set to happen as if a machine is running bo... [ More ]

Reply #32

RJOh — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:28:36 GMT

I think nano disguised the games to avoid anyone checking his claims by rechecking the data for themselves. I prefer to document my observations, that way anyone can recheck the data for themselves if they have any doubts and maybe they will see something I missed.

Ohio's Rolling Cash5 jackpot is at $250K for todays drawing so maybe I'll check the previous 1036 drawings for a common pattern that I can use to pick a few lines to play today.

Reply #31

time*treat — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 05:34:49 GMT

It seemed to me that nano was using two 6/49 games and changing the numbers dates to disguise the games in question, but leaving the pattern intact.

Reply #30

RJOh — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:01:45 GMT

Nanolike who started this thread never said which games he was talking about but all my posts were about the MM drawings. I lined up the last 100 drawings or both MM and PB games and the only winning matches I got within one drawing of each others were four 0+1 and two 1+1 shown below. It looks like MM is predicting PB but nobody is going to get rich playing those predictions.

PB 11/07/07 22 29 35 46 52 +02

MM 11/06/07 03 14 43 46 47 +02

PB 08/18/07 12 15 28 31 50 +12

MM 08/17

Reply #29

LckyLary — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:13:06 GMT

I can't find among all that text, a reference to WHICH two lotteries are being talked about. I am guessing one is the Mega Millions, and the other must be one similar to it, maybe Powerball? If I open in Notepad, the Powerball drawings, next to the Mega drawings, and move one Notepad window one line up, the numbers will seem to match up? Either play the MM numbers on the next PB or vice-versa? Or numbers that are in those groups?

My second question is.. why do you think the two Lotteries are... [ More ]

Reply #28

Stack47 — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:38:35 GMT

You can use 1 to 3 numbers from each block and reduce the number of combinations from 18,564 to 14,175.

Reply #27

time*treat — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 20:37:57 GMT

so my wheel now looks like this;

1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12 13 14 15 16 40 41 42 43 44 45

(coloration, mine)

Already stating that, at most, 3 members of a block will repeat together, it is conflicting logic to put more than three of the same block members in a wheel together. Needs a consistent strategy.

Reply #26

RJOh — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:16:05 GMT

Tonight's winning numbers 12/21/07 14 19 20 43 53 +07 B B B D E + A

I matched 1+1 for $3, the decoded numbers were:

22 31 38 40 43 +03

10 16 18 46 55 +44

04 32 36 44 56 +01

03 25 28 51 52 +08

06 27 34 39 54 +11

01 13 42 47 48 +06

02 23 26 49 53 +09

07 14 19 37 50 +41

15 24 30 35 45 +04

09 17 43 52 55 +36

14 15 29 53 56 +38

08 22 41 46 51 +45

07 31 33 45 47 +40

05 16 27 40 41 +34

09 21 34 37 42 +39

21 29 33 39 48 +05

12 17 32 50 54... [ More ]

Reply #25

tntea — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:59:24 GMT

good luck

Reply #24

RJOh — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:51:34 GMT

For tonight MM drawing I played:

B C D D D + A

A B B E E + D

A C D D E + A

A C C E E + A

A C D D E + A

A B D E E + A

A C C E E + A

A B B D E + D

B C C D E + A

A B D E E + D

B B C E E + D

A B D E E + E

A C C E E + D

A B C D D + D

A B D D D + D

B C C D E + A

B B C E E + D

B B C D D + A

A B C D E + D

A B D E E + A

Reply #23

RJOh — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:40:55 GMT

That's only because he thinks predicting the actual numbers is too difficult. He probably thinks if only the letters A,B,C,D and E were used, the odds of getting them right would be the same as matching all three numbers in a pick3 game.

Since filtering combinations using those five letters could goes from A A A A A +A to E E E E E +D, there would be almost 1 million possible filters combinations for MegaMillons. That's easier to pick than 1:175M number combinations but still hard. Eve... [ More ]

Reply #22

time*treat — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:21:54 GMT

I think pumpi76 was campaigning for this type of thing to be used as an alternate prediction board.

It's not a bad filter, but not an entire system.

Reply #21

RJOh — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:32:48 GMT

I may use a different version of the template idea to pick 10 lines for tonight's MM drawing. I never thought it had any merit, but now I'm thinking it may deserve a little more study.

Reply #20

RJOh — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:51:36 GMT

So which wheeling system would you use?

It's your system, make your own rules from what you've observed in the past. I don't use wheels, they usually have more lines then I want to play. I prefer instead to set parameters and randomly pick some lines accordingly.

Reply #19

nanolike — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:52:25 GMT

Thanks time*treat Ok I re-read. Thanks.

Sorry

Reply #18

nanolike — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:41:42 GMT

Thanks RJoh ok I understand.

So let me give an example here,

1st drawing gives the numbers

1 2 3 4 5 6

3 and 6 show

But since I dont know which two were going to show, naturally I would wheel all 6 numbers.

But now I have a second set of 6 numbers that will also produce 1 to 3 winning numbers, lets say those are 11 12 13 14 15 16

13 shows

even still more numbers I have one more set of 6 which will also yield 1-3 numbers.

they are 40 41 42 43 44 45

so 40 41 43 s... [ More ]

Reply #17

RJOh — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:08:08 GMT

Tonight's MM winning numbers 12/18/07 03 23 46 48 49 +02 A C E E E A

Using template A A D E E to pick combinations could have matched 3 as I did on the prediction board tonight with 10 lines. Picking more lines the same way would not have gotten better results. There are wheels for wheeling several groups of numbers which would work the same way.

Reply #16

time*treat — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:03:22 GMT

time*sweat

Reply #15

RJOh — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:33:32 GMT

So RJoh you are saying that you can create a program of sorts that will be able to produce what I need if I give you these 6 numbers that yield 1-3 number every time.

No, I'm saying others have tried that before and it has never produce any winners. But you don't need a program if as you said the drawings of one game has 3-5 of the winning numbers of the next drawings of the other game every time. All you has to do is just play those six numbers in the other game every time. As far as I k... [ More ]

Reply #14

nanolike — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:43:50 GMT

O I see ok, thanks time*sweat and RJoh,

Also latern you make some good points there.

So RJoh you are saying that you can create a program of sorts that will be able to produce what I need if I give you these 6 numbers that yield 1-3 number every time.

ok what if I have 3 sets of 6 numbers that each produce 1-3 numbers every time.

like this

1 2 3 4 5 6

10 11 12 13 14 15

23 24 25 26 27 28

winning numbers

1 10 12 15 23 24

1 2 3 4 5 6

10 11 12 13 14 15

23 24 25... [ More ]

Reply #13

RJOh — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:05:13 GMT

Nanolike,

What I meant by natural selection is what you have observed was natural, with parameters as stated, the repeat of colors and numbers are natural and should be expected. For example states that have a 5/39 game expect players to naturally match 2 ever 9-10 tickets.

What time*treat meant by coding is simulating in a computer program what you have observed. If you're observing two games and one is predicting the outcome of the other then you can simply play your observations of the... [ More ]

Reply #12

time*treat — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:56:42 GMT

@ nano,

Read what we say more slowly.

I didn't say it was BS. I referred to KY Floyd's skepticism.

When I say first saw this post I mean before I replied the very first time.

I can probably code it ~ because it looks similiar to some old work.RJOh has probably already coded it ~ because he's tested alot of theories and is pretty good at testing a new one really fast. JADElottery can explain it algebraically. ~ because he can explain it with the proper equations, and even show... [ More ]

Reply #11

nanolike — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:15:52 GMT

Let me put this another way I dont think anyone is really getting what I'm saying.

imagine 26 words, something like this;

You all remember him from the beatles, no he did not die but it's something when one plays an album backwards it says paul is dead.

ok thats my sentence I will be using

two lottery draws 6 words and 1-3 of those words and sometimes 4 show the same in each drawing. Now I'm not going to list 6 words drawn only the ones that match so you can see that the pattern i... [ More ]

Reply #10

LANTERN — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:18:18 GMT

Every once in a while I hear somebody say, I have been playing the same numbers for a long time, but I didn't play them on the last draw and they came out.

Perhaps that happens, because there are so very many people who always play the same set of numbers, but who knows? It does sound as if something is not right, but again who Knows?

Will anybody ever be able to prove that a lottery game is Doctored ?

Yet worse, Are all lottery games everywhere Fixed ? I don't think that anybody wil... [ More ]

Reply #9

nanolike — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:56:39 GMT

RJoh what do you mean natural selection?

and what is coding? time*treat mentioned?

I can predict at least 1-3 numbers every time, what shoud I do with it?

the pattern never fails.

If 24 25 showed in the 1st basket, sure enough 24 25 shows in the 2nd. Yet understand there are 49 numbers to select from, but the pattern stays perfect right on course.

by the way one drawing occurs one night prior to the 2nd so you always know in advance the 6 numbers that have the most likelyhood of... [ More ]

Reply #8

nanolike — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:35:30 GMT

time*treat please dont make this into something its not! you say your first thought was this is bs, please dont take it there, either answer how this is occuring or just dont answer at all. I dont have a lot of time to waste with people trying to dismantle something they wont be able to dismantle it is true and i will show it to you i have been holding on to this info for years, if you try and buck they system I will leave. Just go with it and explain, how 2 patterns could be the exact same patt... [ More ]

Reply #7

nanolike — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:19:35 GMT

thanks time for the reply

there are a total of 49 buttons in eacg basket.

actually labled 1-49, I think you get the picture.

each has 6 numbers that are drawn, each event is completely seperate from the other.

yet each produces the same pattern like this example

1st basket

1 2 3 4 5 6

7 8 9 10 11 12

13 14 15 16 17 18

19 20 21 22 23 24

25 26 27 28 29 30

31 32 33 34 35 36 37

40 41 42 43 44 45

naturally the numbers are only for example, they are not th... [ More ]

Reply #6

time*treat — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:13:15 GMT

My thought when I first saw this post was, I can probably code it, RJOh has probably already coded it, JADElottery can explain it algebraically. When I saw who else had replied, I knew the trap was set.

And KY Floyd's got the BS detector at the ready.

Reply #5

RJOh — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:40:20 GMT

Doing the same thing with MegaMillions where A=1-11, B=12-22, C=23-33, D=34-44 and E=45-56

12/14/07 04 07 12 17 30 +44 A A B B C D

12/11/07 06 25 27 30 45 +46 A C C C E E

12/07/07 12 18 26 28 51 +35 B B C C E D

12/04/07 16 27 30 45 53 +43 B C C E E D

11/30/07 05 06 12 26 51 +07 A A B C E A

11/27/07 09 10 26 29 39 +10 A A C C D A

11/23/07 18 21 23 42 56 +11 B B C D E A

11/20/07 14 20 2... [ More ]

Reply #4

KY Floyd — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:34:49 GMT

All I see is somebody picking parts of the results, and suggesting that those partial results are somehow relevant. Blowing a bunch of smoke is the reason people ask where instead of how. Until you show us something real I'll have to assume it's done with mirrors.

Reply #3

JADELottery — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:23:43 GMT

I've seen this before, expressed a different way.

I'll just keep observing for time being.

Go on...

Reply #2

RJOh — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:01:24 GMT

Some members have done the same experiment with pick6 lotteries by diving the pool of numbers into six groups, A,B,C,D,E and F. Some patterns were more common than others, but that didn't seem to be any other reasons for that happening other than natural selection. Because each group had 6-9 numbers in them the pattern recognition had little value as far a predicting patterns in the future.

When you look at most lotteries, the odds of a pattern of 2-3 numbers repeating are so low that there... [ More ]

Reply #1

time*treat — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:13:51 GMT

You didn't say how many of each color button you had ... that makes a difference.

Given that you are pulling a total of 6 objects per set and each object has one of six possibilities, as you are only looking at 1-3 of those objects repeating as a group, combinatorics will show that 'repeat' groups is more likey to happen than not. Especially groups of 1 2.

You have 3 basic parameters: Set size, color range, and group size.

A Question for EVERYONE

nanolike — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:28:01 GMT

If I have a two baskets each filled with a mix of pink buttons, blue buttons, green buttons, brown buttons, red buttons and purple buttons, I dip my hand into one basket and pull out 6 buttons and lay them flat on the table in the order that I pull them out of the basket, then log my results of each separate event, it would look like this;

1st basket

pink,red, pink, green, green, brown

brown, red , blue, green, green red

brown, green, red, pink, brown, pink

green, purple, red,