POLL: Breaking the code

Reply #53

Stack47 — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:24:50 GMT

Sounds like a good day to play it hard!

I'm buying my tickets early because I don't want to be shut out when 023 is sold out.

Reply #52

jarasan — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:14:19 GMT

That gives new meaning to DUE

Reply #51

Thoth — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:10:45 GMT

...its out 10,171 consecutive games now. It last hit 1/7/1984! Hmm... that was January 7th, 24 years ago! This coming Monday will be January 7th lol. Sounds like a good day to play it hard

Reply #50

Thoth — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:45:50 GMT

lol...I've been waiting patiently for it to hit. Been playing it for probably 4 years or so now. Was playing 179 off and on too - - that came up Thanksgiving Day (midday) and I missed it

Reply #49

Stack47 — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:48:28 GMT

Been a while since you last mentioned 023 so that means I'll have to play it again tomorrow.

Reply #48

Thoth — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:42:58 GMT

Once my 023 hits in the Oh Pick 3, I think I may give the RC5 a shot for a year or two. I'm undecided if I want to go back to playing boxed Pick 3 combos everyday (won much more often and was always ahead) or if I want to try the RC5. . I don't like to spend much $$ when I play, so until it hits, I'm kind of stuck on it.

Reply #47

RJOh — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:08:45 GMT

Buckeye5 was a 5/37 game and Rolling Cash5 is a 5/39.

I tried the same thing with Classic Lotto and with the old Super Lotto file without the bonus ball and was surprised that while both were 6/49 game their top number distribution patterns were very different. It could be that CL only had 147 drawings so far and SL had 543.

Actually, during 2007 I've done better with the MegaMillions game, but RC5 and CL should be easier to win and I can't forget that I once won $1500 with a 5/6 playin... [ More ]

Reply #46

Thoth — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:29:37 GMT

Interesting. Thats a good way to group the numbers. It's similar to the way I used to track the Super Lotto when we had it. I've never picked it back up - even though classic lotto is a similar game.

I also liked to track last digits of the balls, like.... 8, 18, 28, 38, 48...when is last digit 8 due or etc.?

I've never messed with the rolling cash 5 much. Was there a matrix change since it was the buckeye five

Reply #45

Skoaler — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:07:17 GMT

Breaking the code! ... I always thought this would make a great movie .. A Howard Hughes type millionaire goes thru something like a bad love life and a failure of a new invention project and looses (his/her) mind and ends up delusional on the streets and lives in a cardboard box not even knowing who he is anymore. Eventually meeting up with other down on their luck types in a mission house who are all doing a pool for the lottery from street donations they collect. (He/she) befriends several di... [ More ]

Reply #44

RJOh — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:21:41 GMT

Today's RC5 numbers were 12/30/07 03 17 23 31 32 = ABCDD

This was the top pattern. My ten lines match two twice, had I only used the top pattern, I might have done better.

This is better than I would have thought, so I will be doing some follow-up.

Reply #43

RJOh — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:31:14 GMT

Also, what do you mean by patterns from the Lottery Matrix? The standard meaning of the term matrix (at least here on LP) is normally taken to mean the entire combination set of a particular type of game...the matrix in a Pick 3 game is all 1,000 straights, the matrix in a 6 of 49 lotto game is all 13.98 million combinations, etc. I suppose there could be a matrix of patterns, but there will probably be as many patterns as there are combinations if you dig deep enough when trying to identify t... [ More ]

Reply #42

Thoth — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:56:45 GMT

Here's something that really bothers me, though. The Lottery officials have the data on all the retail stores that carry their games. They're able to see every district those stores are operating in and what that means is, they're able to know the demographic makeup of those districts whether it's a strong White, Mexican, Black, or Asian community. That bothers me for several reasons.

1.) It's a form of controlling the wealth going out to a race/ethic group. Statistical data have shown that... [ More ]

Reply #41

sirbrad — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:09:59 GMT

There isn't a code to be broken, at least not by human logic and intelligence.

Reply #40

LckyLary — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:23:16 GMT

I have some extreme algorithms, one of them uses 7 dimensions and takes several minutes to generate one pick.. backtesting such a thing is very difficult... as computers become faster it could be done that way, but ironically may turn out that computerized drawings are easier to crack than ball drawings where human factors are more? involved.

The only thing that happens on Dec. 21, 2012 is riots in parking lots as people fight over a limited supply of PlayStation 8's or the new Telepathic... [ More ]

Reply #39

Coin Toss — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:49:18 GMT

NumbaTuff

1.) It's a form of controlling the wealth going out to a race/ethic group. Statistical data have shown that minorities and poorly educated individuals are the biggest buyers of lottery tickets but yet, they're the least in winning bigger jackpots. Something is fishy about that. Can anyone explain that ?

It seems that an inrodiante number of Cubans in Miami hit jackpots, and many of them from QPs that were generated from winning a free ticket.

Reply #38

LottoBuster — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:57:17 GMT

NumbaTuff wrote:

I'm not trying to get carried away ( that just the "politic" of me ) but why is it always those rural towns that win the bigger jackpot.

What state are you in because here in NY you'd almost never know that to be the case as most of the winners are almost always from the NYC area. In fact several years ago someone in the state actually filed a lawsuit over it and suddenly wouldn't you know it there started to be a few more big hits Upstate. It could have been a coincidence... [ More ]

Reply #37

NumbaTuff — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:49:08 GMT

It's funny how, there's this idea the Lottery has a Code and if one can crack it, they control the Lottery and all that wealth -- hahaha. I don't believe nor see the Lottery as a Code to crack and if there is such a Code, it's won't be difficult to crack or see it - someone will, at least, have a clue to understanding the behavior pattern of the numbers.

Here's something that really bothers me, though. The Lottery officials have the data on all the retail stores that carry their games. The... [ More ]

Reply #36

four4me — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:52:12 GMT

Thoth Very well said.

I have looked for various methods of selecting picks to play i notice something familiar in every draw. Like sums for instance if a sum of 12 is drawn then i automatically think the next sum will be higher say 20. And the next sum after that will be lower say 15 the next higher and so on. While this doesn't occur for every draw it happens more often that way. Another thing is to check out the odd even factors of the numbers drawn. Even that can be tricky. But when an od... [ More ]

Reply #35

Thoth — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:10:36 GMT

I don't believe there is a code to be broken. When I first started playing the games about 12 years ago, I too thought a code could exsist. Then I started learning about combinatorics, chance and probability. With that knowledge came the sad realization that there was no ultimate code-crack that could ever indicate every future winning combination or even significantly more combinations than what the code, crack, or system would allow for according to its own real probability of winning.

The... [ More ]

Reply #34

Guru101 — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:41:50 GMT

I haven't tested the new ones yet because I am in the middle of converting my ENTIRE system over to work for KY Cash Ball, which will take a while(so many lines of code). However, they are still showing pretty good accuracy. If KY Cash Ball gets shut down, you'll know why.

Unfortunately, my poor Camaro is still broke down. I should be able to have it fixed soon though.

Reply #33

BobP — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:01:03 GMT

Back in Sept you talked about 2 new algroithms you were expecting great things from. How did that work out for you? BobP

Reply #32

Guru101 — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:04:09 GMT

I don't think there is a code to break, however, I use special matrices in my system which I think is the closest thing to cracking the code .

Reply #31

Lotterologist — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:46:54 GMT

LOL

Reply #30

pumpi76 — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:20:22 GMT

I am not trying to argue but i wanted to let you know that there is a supercomputer the size of a suitcase named gigabooster .....I don't think it cost that much...There is also a supercomputer the size of a regular computer tower call T3...There is another one named SPI and one named Origin2000 also the size of a regular computer tower....

Keno is the demon who makes trophies of men ........ You can't see it........ And it skins them......

Reply #29

pumpi76 — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 05:14:49 GMT

One example of Digital Footprints is: if the number 28 plays on draw number 10th what are the odds it will play on draw 20th; in draw number 10th again if you take the difference...Or if the number 28 plays on draw number 27th what are the odds it will play on draw number 54th: in draw number 28th again if you take the difference between draw number 27th and draw number 54th...Taking advantage accumulative of this subtle patterns is that Digital Footprints or Random Walk is all about...And it wi... [ More ]

Reply #28

pumpi76 — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 04:38:45 GMT

The only way to find a breackthrough is finding a way to reduce the amount of numbers...I am not talking about applying filter and thus reducing the amount of numbers, i am talking about example if you have 30 numbers you want to wheel, finding a way to reduce from 30 to 20 or 15 numbers and then wheeling them..Sort of like Sifting....

Even though i mentioned that there is a gigantic pattern on the Sums of Pick6 (not Powerball or MegaMillions) and even though that pattern is gigantic and noti... [ More ]

Reply #27

jarasan — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:24:41 GMT

Maybe not a code to break, but a breakthrough in physics/science. If things go as they are, it will happen eventually, we may not see it but the possibility exists. There are people working on it, just like Copernicus, Columbus, Einstein, Newton, Maxwell, Gauss, Pasteur, Curie, Hawking, Van de Graff, Edison, Salk, DaVinci, Archimedes, etc. broke through, it'll happen again.

It'll null and void all we knew before.

Reply #26

LottoBuster — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:56:17 GMT

Your last sentence says you do believe in a code? I don't get it.

Nope not at all. Randomness produces patterns and if the person knows what to look for in them it is possible to have an advantage over the House, even if it's only a slight one.

And that's been the problem for me at least, I can easily come up with systems that 'll hit based on patterns and even leave me a little ahead over the long-term it's just doing it in a way that hits more often and without having to play so man... [ More ]

Reply #25

pacattack05 — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:51:35 GMT

yES THERE IS ACODE.

Reply #24

pacattack05 — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:41:01 GMT

Your last sentence says you do believe in a code? I don't get it.

Reply #23

LottoBuster — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:28:27 GMT

there is no code..................

Yup I agree. In my experience hitting the numbers has been based on finding patterns. There may be and probably are other methods of doing it but the way I look at the game is it's treated similar to counting cards at blackjack, it is possible for the player to get an advantage over the House if they know what to look for.

Reply #22

four4me — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:58:35 GMT

pumpi76 There's a big difference between science fact and science fiction. You are entitled to your opinions but sometimes they are way out real way out. Supercomputers already exist and i doubt they will be used to run lottery numbers. More realistically they won't be cheap to buy.

There are probably hundreds of people who never even heard of lottery post who use powerful computers to try and win the lottery, the games aren't designed to be cracked by any programing.

Reply #21

pumpi76 — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:18:22 GMT

And for the twentieth time, if i believe so let me believe so, I am entitled to believe my own opinions...

I am imagining a supercomputer a little different than what you imagine a supercomputer...Even though an expert programmer can write a kick ass program for the lottery and win the lottery over and over, the numbers will not be optimized to the highest extent...They maybe optimized but not to the highest extend, something you could do with a supercomputer...The programmer and his kick ass... [ More ]

Reply #20

pumpi76 — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 20:11:17 GMT

i also believe Area51 has the baddest, meanest biggest supercomputer ever invented and no one knows it...

Reply #19

Coin Toss — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:23:40 GMT

Here's a queston....

If you had deep enough pockets.... and were armed with the fact that NO DOUBLES would hit the next day...... and be right 90% of the time ....do you think you could make a living at the PICK -3 game ?

When I worked in the casinos one of our shift managers said any game can be beat by someone with deep enough pockets, but anyone with pockets that deep isn't going to gamble that heavy - and even if they were crazy enough to gamble that heavy, the games (casi... [ More ]

Reply #18

tntea — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:25:33 GMT

Oh yes, one had broken the code. She mentioned it several times. I only wonder why she hangs around the computer... oh well each their own.

Reply #17

four4me — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:36:09 GMT

For the umpteenth time you don't need a super computer to work out lottery programs

The math processor on every computer sold today can handle the task. Albeit the faster your processor is the faster it will generate the numbers. And when that is all done you'll need a few hundred friends to help you fill out all the tickets. If your thinking a computer with some advanced programing will create the winning combination with one pick then your dreaming.

There are software programs that ca... [ More ]

Reply #16

pumpi76 — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:07:33 GMT

and of course someone with a supercomputer one day will....I believe someone is going to write a kick as program that will win several lottos except Megamillions and Powerball one day...

the only problem is that lots of lottos play twice a week and not 4 times a week....

Reply #15

pumpi76 — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:04:42 GMT

i wander if the aliens are going to land...they do so much apparitions but don't land...

Reply #14

pumpi76 — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:02:43 GMT

yeah i remember seen that story on the internet when looking for lottery strategies...

Reply #13

pumpi76 — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:00:21 GMT

I strongly believe and i always felt that that kind of system they will have it on Area-51....I don't know i just always felft that way...They will also have the math involved to ancitipate in what state and cycle the seed of an RNG is...If you notice most math of RNG's are really obscure, not much talk about or displayed on the internet...

But if you listen to my blogs you will know that you can reduce Powerball from 150 million combinations to 1 in 10,010.....All you have to do is been able... [ More ]

Reply #12

pacattack05 — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:49:57 GMT

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Here's a queston....

If you had deep enough pockets.... and were armed with the fact that NO DOUBLES would hit the next day...... and be right 90% of the time ....do you think you could make a living at the PICK -3 game ?

By the way....

After several years of watching... [ More ]

Reply #11

pacattack05 — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:03:06 GMT

Anyone remember that guy who made a painting in Australia? He has since passed and his son is selling the painting.

Within the painting is supposedly, the broken code. The guy did win 3 jackpots, and a ton of lower tier prizes. He spent years in the basement trying to break it. His family was not too happy about it..lol Granted, it's not a 100%, but I can live with 3 JPs....lol

Reply #10

WIN D — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:49:53 GMT

Mr G .... Merry Xmas !

For right now I guess ..... All we have is Most of the time opportunities ....playing right down the middle....or shooting for the best ODDs.

The best Code for now ....is playing as smart and as close to the best odds as we can.

Reply #9

takeitez — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:28:10 GMT

Chazz...Chazz...Chazz..

Have you not been reading the post on here?

We have 3 or 4 post a year telling us they have broken the code

ez

Reply #8

WIN D — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:01:06 GMT

BobP..... I wanted to say thanks for all that you do ....and your many ...many contributions to the games. Your website is just a great addition to this hobby sport..... and gets better every year. It sure is a wonderful resource for all of us . Thanks very much.

How many (yes/no) (1/2) filter questions does it take to get the choices down to a reasonable play level?

I worked that out one time on the Systems Forum this year .... Think it was 7 or 8 depending on your pocket... [ More ]

Reply #7

Lotterologist — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:44:27 GMT

I voted when the aliens land , also. What is impossible for humans, is commonplace for E.T.

Reply #6

Lotterologist — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:43:00 GMT

LOL

Reply #5

JAP69 — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:01:51 GMT

I voted when the aliens land. But in my case I will say alien. Aint that right I ?

I is an alien I found awhile back in a space vehicle that had crashed in the mountains. The whole or most of the story is in my blog.

Well I lets work on the lottery some more. I likes to work on the lottery with me.

Is I fact or fiction

Reply #4

BobP — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:37:27 GMT

A code has to have meaning behind it to be uncovered. The lottery numbers are not a measurement of anything so there is nothing for them to stand for. However, because they are the images of numbers we can use some number handling tools to work with them.

Maybe it's just because I'm testing the latest Lotwin Lottery Line Builder software right now, but I do think it possible to establish a series of Yes/No filter questions that would result in a win when answered correctly. After all, it i... [ More ]

Reply #3

Coin Toss — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:33:53 GMT

and the casinos will never close...

Casino manager, Havana, Cuba, New Year's Eve 1958

I just put this poll up mostly for fun.....

I agree with you guys....

Reply #2

four4me — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:09:32 GMT

there is no code.................. and lotteries will never cease to exist in our lifetime

Reply #1

justxploring — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:47:50 GMT

You don't have won't happen so I can't vote. Sorry. I think if someone began to win frequently he would disappear, sort of like putting someone in the witness protection program. That would be the end of the lottery.

POLL: Breaking the code

Coin Toss — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:36:26 GMT

If anyone ever were to break the code , how do you think it will most likely happen?

Computers are too obvious so I left them out, kind of, although option 1 hints at them.