Is statistics method really useful to predict drawing number?

Reply #32

RJOh — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:08:51 GMT

I hope your service does better than your predictions. You picked 5 lines for Ohio Rolling Cash5 02/25/08 and didn't even get a match2. Keep predicting and good luck.

Reply #31

RJOh — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:23:19 GMT

I know. Since I was born in the forties, when I play my birthday and that of my bother, I use the month, date and year. Any one born before 1957 can probably do the same thing in a lottery somewhere. It unlikely people playing their grand kids birthdays can do the same.

Ohio's Lot'O Play (6/100) used 0-99, but nobody played it so they replaced it with Classic Lotto (6/49).

Reply #30

jarasan — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:54:53 GMT

I know someone who hit DC Daily 6 6 for 6 using birthdays. CT, RJ the birthday thing doesn't have to be limited to less than 31, some people use years, like 1935 (35) 1942 (42).

Reply #29

RJOh — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:48:35 GMT

The MegaMillions matrix changed 06/24/2005 - 14 43 44 50 56 +07 which was 279 drawings ago.

There have been three drawings where all the numbers were greater than 31

08/28/07 - 37 40 48 53 56 +44

02/09/07 - 32 39 46 48 49 +41

09/20/05 - 35 36 40 42 52 +45

Reply #28

Coin Toss — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:24:51 GMT

Ok, guesses on the number of drawings for the remainder of '05, but figuring 2 for Sep of '05, 4 for Oct, 4 for Nov, and 5 for Dec

that makes '05 ((27-12-31) 15

'06 104

'07 104

thus far in '08 16

That makes 239 drawings, 7 of those had all numbers 31 or less.

7/239 = .029%

97.1% of those drawings had numbers over 31.

I think I'd play the percentages .

Reply #27

guesser — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:19:38 GMT

Some of you think too much.

A birthday is just a day, a date, that has a number assigned to it. OF COURSE one of these will hit once in awhile, the odds favor it. Nobody ever said 'birthdays don't win', but it's just as one said: you limit your numbers to 1-31, you are really limiting your chances. So you need to play your birthdays, and a few games not made up of birthdays.

Same for race car numbers, NBA Player numbers, NFL, NHL, and any other 'number' you want to assign something to.... [ More ]

Reply #26

guesser — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:09:44 GMT

By me. LOL

I have tons of stats, and tons of theories, probably too many.

You can use statistics to help you rule things in, and to rule things out, the trick is knowing what info to use when.

The next problem is, for most people, as soon as they have noticed a trend, that trend is usually ending, so if there IS a trend, you better notice it within 3 games, or forget it.

I have a pretty good statistic I use to narrow down the Red ball itself, the problem is it only narrows it down t... [ More ]

Reply #25

RJOh — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:29:37 GMT

Since its last matrix change, MegaMillions alone have had seven drawings where all the numbers were 31 or less.

09/27/05 - 14 17 26 27 28 +05

11/08/05 - 08 16 21 25 27 +16

03/21/06 - 04 16 17 28 31 +08

04/10/07 - 07 15 16 19 28 +10

06/15/07 - 01 05 16 26 30 +21

06/22/07 - 11 14 21 24 31 +23

02/22/08 - 07 12 13 19 22 +10

Reply #24

Coin Toss — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:13:58 GMT

Jarasan

The usual thinking on birthdays is that a lot of people play them and if all your numbers are birthdays, thus no number being over 31, if you do hit, you'll be splitting a lot of ways.

That didn;t happend with this $270,000,000 jackpot and is yet another reason why this couple was extremely lucky.

Reply #23

LuckyLilly — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:54:53 GMT

It won an 82 mil (or something like that) jackpot here in Idaho about 12 years ago. She always played her brothers and sisters ages. She filled out her play slip then remembered one brother had just had a BD and it was wrong. But she didn't have time to change it so took the ticket and won.

Reply #22

GASMETERGUY — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:40:23 GMT

How many times have birthdays or anniversaries or some other significant date won a jackpot? I would be amazed if this occurred more than three times in the whole history of the lottory. I don't mean to knock this way of picking numbers but I, for one, would prefer a more viable method.

Anybody got one

Reply #21

jarasan — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:10:49 GMT

The statistical method one might assume uses statistics, I think statistics do a better job than guessing or RNG. Birthdays work well also as we just saw in Ga. $270M with birthdays. Kinda throws water on the birthdays don't work crowd.

Reply #20

psykomo — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:23:13 GMT

U should post this as a .....POLL

but, thanks for ur ? leading TOO

NOWHERE>>>>>

It appear's UR L@@K'g for DATA>>>>>>>???????????????????

ANSWER:

IT HELP'ssssssss....OK????....(THANK's) LOL>>

PSYKOMO

Reply #19

Coin Toss — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:07:46 GMT

Raven62

As far as PowerBall goes how do you know their figures are correct?PowerBall wants their Players to Buy Quick Picks Not Select their OwnNumbers. Why? That way they have full control of the Game and decidedwho wins and who loses.

I would be muich more inclined to think that with the odds against hitting Powerball, they don't really care how people get their numbers, just that they play

Reply #18

time*treat — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:18:27 GMT

Stats are useful, but people mistake 'useful' for 'a guarantee'.

Most successful people worked hard and/or got a good break and ran with it. Most unsuccessful people didn't.

Some people worked hard, but ran into some illness or bad luck.

Some lazy slobs happened to be born into wealth or filed the right lawsuit.

All in all, no guarantees. Stats serve as a guideline.

Reply #17

RJOh — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:00:40 GMT

If a system comes close to breaking even, limiting the player lost to very little overall regardless of the amount spent on lottery tickets then I would call it successful. So far, no one has come up with such a system. Even when a player beats the overall odds of winning something, he usually wins one of the lower prizes which covers less than 10% of his cost.

Reply #16

Raven62 — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:41:13 GMT

Coin Toss,

Overall the Facts on the System Sellers Site seem more realistic when talking about the State Lotteries (their are 100's of other games not just PowerBall): If you have Proof that they are made-up please post you Source otherwise you should concede that they did Research on the Subject and that their figures are true and accurate.

As far as PowerBall goes how do you know their figures are correct? PowerBall wants their Players to Buy Quick Picks Not Select their Own Number... [ More ]

Reply #15

LottoVantage — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:37:40 GMT

There is a statistical system. It's identified as The StatPath-5 , and The StatPath-6 Lotto Systems . How well these systems work strictly depends on your individual definition of successful wins.

Win the Jackpot every time you play? Are you kidding me

Reply #14

BillSam2008 — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:29:59 GMT

I've running a service for almost 5 years to predict lotteries using statistics. I can not share the site or link as per the Lottery Post user agreement. We correctly predicted 5 of 5 in the Rolling Cash 12 times in 2007 and 3 times so far in 2008. To prove my point we are currently running an experiment in the Ohio Rolling Cash Lottery. You can see the top numbers we are predicting under my Lottery Post user name BillSam2008. The fifth line was a mistaken entry on my part and will not be part o... [ More ]

Reply #13

Coin Toss — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:16:41 GMT

Raven62

They are selling a system, they are making up their facts .

The Powerball site is a lottery website that keeps statistics on actual results, not maybes and woulda shoulda couldas.

If you're so anxious to believe the facts on the sytem seller's website, why do doubt the real-life facts on the Powerball site?

I already told you the source of information, it's the FAQ page of the Powerball site.

Once again, beware the tout.

Reply #12

ThatScaryChick — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:27:14 GMT

I don't believe I've even heard of a statistics method.

Reply #11

Raven62 — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:24:55 GMT

Coin Toss,

What does that have to do with the Facts: as stated on their Website?

Please post the source of your information that disproves the Facts: that are inscribed upon their Website.

Reply #10

Stack47 — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:27:24 GMT

That depends on the game and what you re trying to do. When Mega Millions has its 300th drawing, there will be no other 300 drawing period we could compare it with and that would be assuming 300 draws are enough.

If you started playing Mega Millions at 18 and lived to 88, you can expect to see 7280 drawings but that is only 0.00416% of all 175 million combos. If it stays at two drawings a week, in another 168,269 years there will have 1% of the data to evaluate. If you limit your statistical

Reply #9

KY Floyd — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:15:02 GMT

Don't be silly. I'm *sure* they're only providing unbiased facts so the informed player can make good choices.

(note to justx: yes, you are feeling sarcasm this time.

Reply #8

Coin Toss — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:25:09 GMT

Raven62

The site you linked to is selling a system, of course they are going to tout chosen numbers (via their system of course) over quick picks.

Reply #7

RJOh — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:34:08 GMT

Statistics can tell you a lot about previous drawings:

Which combinations have won in the past drawings.

The numbers drawn most often or least drawn

The percentage of even verses odd or low verses high numbers drawn

Which bonus numbers are drawn the most or least

Which numbers are the most or least active (hot or cold)

.....and much more

The problem is knowing how to use this information to win a lottery. There are those who claim to be developing a formula to plug in suc... [ More ]

Reply #6

Raven62 — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:05:14 GMT

Look Here

Reply #5

JWBlue — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:41:36 GMT

The winners that picked their own numbers didn't necessarily use statistics. We would need to know what percentage of winners used statistics. I doubt any of the people that win the lottery use statistics. They seem to just flat out get lucky.

Reply #4

GASMETERGUY — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:20:53 GMT

The purpose behind what most of us are doing, or trying to accomplish, is to find a path that will lead to more wins than losses. Statistics is just one, albeit, the main leg of our endeavors, to do just that, find the right path.

If you can think of another path, we would most certainly entertain your thoughts.

The many threads here deal with searching for that successful path. We may be beating our heads against a wall but that is not the point. The point is we are trying. Some of us u... [ More ]

Reply #3

Coin Toss — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:21:42 GMT

Raven 62

Could you tell us where you got your fact above?

From the Powerball website FAQ page:

WHICH HAS THE BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING: COMPUTER PICKS OR PLAYER PICKS?

About 70% to 80% of purchases are computer picks. About 70% to 80%of winners are computer picks. Perhaps just one of those weirdcoincidences

Reply #2

Raven62 — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:17:00 GMT

Fact: According to lottery officials, 80% of players choose quick picks. Only 20% pick their own numbers. But what they will also tell you is, Winners are split 50/50 between the two groups!

So, the 20% group wins 50% of the time

Reply #1

Newb — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:54:56 GMT

What is this method?

There are certain number combinations, rather than individual numbers, I would not lay money on.

Is statistics method really useful to predict drawing number?

wantmoney — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:49:44 GMT

??

Do you believe it? I don't believe it