Poll: Would you play this?

Reply #16

Think — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:41:11 GMT

Sigh! Nobody caught the error that I put in there for someone to catch

Reply #15

Think — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:21:15 GMT

Ok, maybe I should have spelled Note that 2^N would also apply to Up and Down so maybe on the Pick 3 and Pick 4 you could get your state to offer a One Off Option on Pick 3 and Pick 4. out.

eg for 123 one off would mean that 1 could be 0 or 2 , 2 could be 1 or 3 and 3 could be 2 or 4

234

123

012

any or all numbers could be one off and you would still get a prize.

Of course if you hit on 123 you would get the 500 bux for the original bet.

It would loop at 0 and 9.

Reply #14

Stack47 — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:54:20 GMT

Go back up and look at the Even and Odd patterns for 2^3 and you will see that there are 8 of them.

I understand there are 8 even/odd patterns and 8 high/low too. But each pattern has 125 different straight combinations but that is not betting 8 numbers for a buck.

Now if you substitute U for one number up and D for one number down you will see that you would be playing eight sets of numbers for a dollar and any or all numbers could be one up or one down from the numbers drawn and still

Reply #13

Think — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:42:30 GMT

Aaaah I see you are suffering from cursor hypnosis!

Would you please carefully read the previous posts before answering? Thanks!

Now, if you play a pick 3 number for a dollar and hedge with one off for an extra buck then it works out to $62.50

Reply #12

Stack47 — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:33:45 GMT

Divide $500 by how many straight number combinations there are in each of the 8 even/odd patterns; OOO has 111, 113, 115, 117, 119, etc. or 125 straight combinations. Doesn't $500/125 = $4?

Do you really think any lottery will pay you $62.50 for just betting a buck on all 8 possible patterns

Reply #11

Think — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:51:01 GMT

BUUUUUUZZZZZZZZZZZZ! Wrong! Go back up and look at the Even and Odd patterns for 2^3 and you will see that there are 8 of them. Now if you substitute U for one number up and D for one number down you will see that you would be playing eight sets of numbers for a dollar and any or all numbers could be one up or one down from the numbers drawn and still win! it would be

$500/8 = 62.50 for a one dollar bet or

$5000/16 = 312.50 for a pick 4 one dollar bet.

Or if you paid 8 or 16 dollars you... [ More ]

Reply #10

Stack47 — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:56:54 GMT

Most states had the one off option for years; it's called front pair, back pair, and outside pair and each bet pays $50 for $1. One number off like playing 123 and getting paid on 124, 122, 113, 133, 023, and 223 would have the same payoff as a 6-way box bet ($83 for $1) because it would be the same as playing 6 straight combinations for a buck. That bet could be made playing any lottery that offers 50 cent wagers and would cost $3 for a $250 payoff.

The average bet is probably $1 straight an... [ More ]

Reply #9

Think — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:44:28 GMT

Note that 2^N would also apply to Up and Down so maybe on the Pick 3 and Pick 4 you could get your state to offer a One Off Option on Pick 3 and Pick 4.

It could either be a $1 option with 1/8 the normal prize on pick 3 and 1/16 the normal prize on

pick 4 or they could implement it as an $8 option on Pick 3 and a $16 option on pick 4.

Michigan offers Straight, Box, 2-Way, and Wheel bets on these games and maybe if enough people wrote them they would offer a One Off option also.

Reply #8

Coin Toss — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:07:09 GMT

Since the true odds on the pick 5 swould be 31 to 1 (by your example above) I figure the house being a lottery it would pay somewhere in the range of 8 to 15 to 1.

Reply #7

Think — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:45:13 GMT

Just how much do you think something like that would pay?

The number of total patterns is 2^N where N is the number of balls drawn. So for a pick 5 game there would be 2^5 or 32 different even and odd patterns

2^1 = 2 half even and half odd or

E

O

2^2 = 4 Half even and half odd or

E E

E O

O E

O O

2^3 = 8 or

E E E

E E O

E O E

E O O

O E E

O E O

O O E

O O O

you get the idea 2^4 =16 with 8 evens followed by 8 odds in the left column and then 2... [ More ]

Reply #6

Stack47 — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:35:10 GMT

I don't know how the payoff could be more than even money (betting $1 and collecting $2) so I doubt many people would bet another buck only win a buck. The Florida Fantasy 5 has an added bet called EZ Play that has pretty nice payoffs.

Pick-3 games have side bets that allow betting on more than one combination for a $1 like the box (3 or 6 straight bets for $1), front (10 straight bets for $1), back, outside pairs, or sums (between 1 and 75 straight bets for $1) in pick-3 games. Lotteries cou... [ More ]

Reply #5

ThatScaryChick — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:22:38 GMT

I don't think I would waste another dollar playing something like that, because I still wouldn't be able to pick the right sequence of odd/even...lol, but it does sound like it would be interesting.

Reply #4

Coin Toss — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:56:14 GMT

Since it's not a case of one odd, one even, both odd, both even, it wouldn't be a 50-50 game as there is a series of five.

The house would still make money on this.

By the way, European roulette wheels only have one 0, American roulette has 00.

Reply #3

time*treat — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:29:41 GMT

Spoiler is probably not the name you'd call it, when it happened.

Reply #2

tntea — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:55:37 GMT

spoiler sounds like a good name for me.

Reply #1

justxploring — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:13:08 GMT

How would the state make any money with a 50-50 game? There would probably also be a spoiler, like the green zero/double zero on a roulette table. (don't know if spoiler is the correct word

Poll: Would you play this?

Coin Toss — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:18:33 GMT

This would be in essence a side bet and cost another dollar.

It would have to be for a Pick 5 or only the top matrix of Powerball or Mega Millions, as it has to be an odd number to make a prepnderance.

Not sure what the payoff would be, nothing spectacular, maybe a litle beter than even money, maybe even money (or even less?), but the bet would be more evens or odds.

Another possible side bet would be predicting the exact swequence of evens and odds. Of course that would pay a lot bette... [ More ]