POLL: Time travel

Reply #50

savagegoose — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:49:01 GMT

i once bought shares at 19c ea, then sold at 26c ea. only to see em at $1.08 a year later. i had $20k on those suckers. so if i went back in time id only have to leave a note to myself, hold NMS for another 9 months. going to $1 lol

maybe we need a temporal messenger. so we can at least email notes to ourselves in the past, what the hey i would prob filter em all as spam anyhow.

Reply #49

guesser — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:13:49 GMT

Ummm.... M$ went public in 1986.

Like you - I sold too soon.

Folks gotta remember - back then, when you buy a stock at 21, and it goes to 27, it's time to SELL.

Who knew

Reply #48

JackpotWanna — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:19:31 GMT

I choose land and stocks.

Reply #47

CurtisC — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:48:14 GMT

Hmmm...

Can't recall where I read it, but wasn't the Revolutionary War funded in-part by Lotto/Lottery? I think the scriptos have old coupons up for sale, occasionally. Dunno if it was legal or not... perhaps not from the British POV.

Ah, notions of time travel and vicarious opportunity to run fun with altruism, or personal gain.

It's not without ambiguity that we're ready to fight to the end for one cause or another, then tomorrow new information unexpectedly intrudes like a stranger a... [ More ]

Reply #46

Coin Toss — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:57:40 GMT

(Just got a message I was asked to relay, here it is):

Some of you folks are getting really close to the truth

Sincerely,

John Titor

2036

PS

Go ahead and do a search for me on the net and see what turns up

Reply #45

time*treat — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:45:07 GMT

Not to worry. We're not pricing 'flux capacitors' just yet.

Reply #44

rubberbandman — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:31:59 GMT

EXACTLY it would create a paradox.

What you are describing is the many-worlds hypothesis. When you change something in the past and that result occurs in the future as well. In that case the MWH would occur, since you changed something and the timeline keep steady to your actions such as the Kennedy example you (self) would reside in that different world when Kennedy were still alive by your actions, so you would remember everything, and the world where Kennedy had been assasinated (where you... [ More ]

Reply #43

JAP69 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:37:02 GMT

Here is another dilema on going back in time with the knowledge you have to capialize on an event of any sort.

If you are the only one going back in time it may be possible. However if more than one person is able to go back in time you will still have doubt about the event you want to change or capitalize on. That other person could change the outcome of what you want to achieve.

Microsoft fortunes may not have occured if some one else used computer knowledge they take back with them to s... [ More ]

Reply #42

JAP69 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:31:05 GMT

Going back in time with the knowledge you currently have you would know the outcome of an event that you have memory of.

To go forward in time you take the knowledge that you have acquired and use it to your best advantage for tomorrows decisions. We all acquire knowledge to make our lives better.

However you do not know what the outcome will be with any decision.

But you give it your best shot .

Reply #41

Stack47 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:55:23 GMT

By changing past events we would create a paradox.

We have memories or knowledge of the Kennedy assassination but if went back into time and changed the outcome, the even never happened so we would have no memories or knowledge and there would be no reason to go back into time to change it.

If time travel is developed in the future and past events could be changed, everything we know to be true would constantly change. What if EzMoney really did win the Powerball jackpot but another LP mem... [ More ]

Reply #40

rubberbandman — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:56:44 GMT

AlecWest: What you are describing is the Novikov self-consistency principle, which is basically predestination, you know, what happens is what exactly should happen. Your Jesus story is a perfect example.

Reply #39

BobP — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:53:27 GMT

Why not just out of body travel a day(s) into the future and check your newspaper or the pad on your desk where you write them down, for the winning lottery numbers. BobP

Reply #38

RJOh — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:32:24 GMT

I think you all are going about winning a lottery jackpot the wrong way.

Inventing a time machine to travel forward or back in time for lottery results is a lot harder than just trying to come up a formula that can pick 15-20 numbers that will cover the outcome of a lottery 30% of the time which would reduce your odds of winning a jackpot to less than 1:40,000/ 30% of the time.

Reply #37

time*treat — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:26:27 GMT

1 possibility: One of your grandmothers would then marry a different person, and you would have a 1/4th different genetic make-up. I.e., the person you murdered would then cease to have been your future grandfather.

What're you doing killing people anyway? Isn't this trip about making money

Reply #36

Jimhowlett — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:41:01 GMT

Consider this: if one decides to go back to late December several years ago and buy the winning Powerball jackpot (the one right before Whittaker won) it would change time. You could not reliably expect all subsequent drawings to reflect exactly what they did in our own history. Bottom line: you have one shot to go back in time and take advantage of stuff; after that a point of digression is reached and your original timeline changes. You no longer know what will happen from that point onward.

Reply #35

Coin Toss — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:02:10 GMT

Alec

Interesting story, but the scientist trying to do the Ressurection would be a snag, no

Reply #34

AlecWest — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:50:34 GMT

Coin Toss wrote: Let's say time travel is perfected and yuo can go back 50 or 100 years.

Hmm ... perhaps the statement should be reworded to say, Let's say YOU perfected time travel, that no one else had the ability, and you can go back 50 or 100 years. Otherwise, everybody'd be going back in time and doing things that might interfere with what you're doing (and vice versa). In any case, I don't think I'd go back in time for any reason. I'd be too scared of mucking up the future. I certainly... [ More ]

Reply #33

BobP — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:27:53 GMT

That was the Philadelphia Experiment. Oops, similar story in reverse, I know the one you're talking about, aircraft carrier in front of a big worm hole thing, arrrrgh! The zerros were the only good part, the rest of the movie was the two jets taking off. Soon as I can't edit any more I'll remember. Got it, Final Countdown.

Sound of Thunder was a great movie as well as a great story.

If I could go back to the fifties, it would be to stay. A lotto win mid sixties would be gravy.... [ More ]

Reply #32

Coin Toss — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:22:02 GMT

four4me

Yeah, good points, but the concept of time travel makes for interesting discussions and movies and such.

What was the movie (maybe mid 1980s) with the modern day aircraft carrier that time-warped back to Pearl Harbor? Remember that one?

They captured one of the Japanese pilots and there was a Navy historian on the ship that told the pilot exactly what was happening and going to happen and he freaked out.

And at the end of the movie, one guy had decided to stay back in the WW

Reply #31

four4me — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:34:03 GMT

that's why i said this in pumpi76 thread if i win 200 million dollars..

Going back in time is basically science fiction. If you could go back in time you couldn't alter it in any way if you did and were lucky enough to return to the present time you most likely would have altered everything that existed... it is possible that everything that was here before you left would be gone. Your house might not be in the same place certain people that were living before you left might be dead in... [ More ]

Reply #30

pacattack05 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:08:49 GMT

Parallel universe.

In and out of existence. Phasing in and out of realms. Tasting lucid dreams. And so on......

Misty water colored memories, like the way we were.....

Scattered pictures.....

Reply #29

pacattack05 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:32:05 GMT

Indeed true.

The answer would be that the grandson wouldn't exist. But travelling in the past seems unlikely. Travelling into the future holds major promise.

Reply #28

rubberbandman — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:59:51 GMT

I chose lotto even though I didn't notice the 50-100 year plotline.

I read a little about time travel and noticed that you guys are in somewhat of a heated discussion so let me ask you a question (this question is why many scientists, theorists say time travel isn't possible)

This question was proposed by Rene Barjavel in 1943 and it is called the grandfather paradox:

The situation is this: One travels to the past and murder their grandfather. The question is this: What would happen to... [ More ]

Reply #27

justxploring — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:35:36 GMT

I understand what you are expressing here, but we can't play God. If we went back in time to stop a disaster, that's exactly what we would be doing. If during the course of our lives we prevent a death because we take action, i.e., running into a burning building to save a child or rescuing people from a car that was about to explode, then it wouldn't be the same as taking on superhuman powers. Everyday there is death destruction, and as humans we need to do the best we can to change the world.... [ More ]

Reply #26

time*treat — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:12:06 GMT

Does this time machine come with magical powers, too? How would one have prevented planned military operations? There are a few of those going on right now; no time machine required. Hop to it.

As far as other events , if they were unpleasant, history shows it's best to keep it to yourself as you're going to be ignored at best, and accused at worst. In between are the possibilities of ridicule and/or job loss. You may get credit after the fact, but the event will still have taken place. Most... [ More ]

Reply #25

JordanT1021 — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:12:07 GMT

Stocks all the way...

berkshire hathway all the way...

Reply #24

Coin Toss — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:06:10 GMT

Tough one. Assuming there is time travel for the sake of discussion, if you go forward, despite having the technology to do so, you are still going to an unknown. Let's say you opt to go to, oh, 2020, but there is no 2020 because we never got past 2012! Then what?

If you go backward, you are going back in time with knowledge of what is going to happen. Whether you could really do anything with suck knowledge is up for debate (some Twilight Zones come to mind, Serling was a genius and loved... [ More ]

Reply #23

TheGameGrl — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:55:28 GMT

Sorry but I disagree to the butterfly theory. First off, An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. SO to PREVENT an event ( World Trade Center ) or the Holocaust is a HUGE positive. Sometimes a small ripple can create the greatest of rewards. So explain to the small children who lost parents/ relatives at the world trade center that gosh IF you were given the ability to change that event, you wouldnt because it would affect so many others. As if their family or loved one doesnt count in t... [ More ]

Reply #22

MillionsWanted — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:12:21 GMT

If there's any point in time travel it must be to go forward in time. Can't make much money out of lottery draws which has happened.

Reply #21

One2Adore — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:51:26 GMT

Google stocks all the way, baby!! That would be like winning the lottery in itself. That's assuming 50 and 100 years aren't my only choices of how far to go back.

Reply #20

jarasan — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:13:52 GMT

I'll take the quick pick, I'd go back and off the inventor of the quick pick. Alright wise guys which lottery was the first to get the quick pick? In any form?

Microsoft 1985 $1000 of stock would be over $3M last year, I sold it way too soon. I worked wih concurrent DOS ouch

Reply #19

justxploring — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:48:01 GMT

Oh, I didn't notice that. I definitely agree with time*treat.

Reply #18

time*treat — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:40:40 GMT

If 50 and 100 are the only choices, then 50yrs stocks.

Reply #17

LOTTOMIKE — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:57:49 GMT

stocks

Reply #16

guesser — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:43:56 GMT

By reading just the poll questions, I really don't know what there is 'to get' ???

If I had my druthers, I'd pick the Lottery or the Derby, because all the others I pretty much know:

I've predicted most Super Bowl winners, most World Series winners, I do well in the stock market, and I know where to buy land, after doing some research.

To qualify that, I cannot tell you today who will win the Series or the Super Bowl, but I can tell you a few days before the games/game.

With the Derb... [ More ]

Reply #15

Coin Toss — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:25:38 GMT

Art Bell of talk radio thinks that people who hit huge jackpots or are extremely good investors are time travelers

Reply #14

Guru101 — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:31:33 GMT

I would prefer going forward and bringing back lottery numbers. I'd be kinda worried about going back in time and buying myself a winning ticket.

Reply #13

Think — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:25:50 GMT

Thyme travel should also be Sage travel too.

Reply #12

DC81 — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:44:30 GMT

I'd say you'd be doing him more of a favor if instead of using the numbers for that drawing you back to the drawing before and used those winning numbers so he wouldn't win. He's on the record saying he wishes he never won so why not? He still might win a jackpot but it'll be the initial prize instead and no one will care. I'd do the same thing for David Edwards and the other people who won Powerball seven years ago. Whatever happened to the other winners anyway? O_o

Also, the first polio... [ More ]

Reply #11

pacattack05 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:20:39 GMT

Now that's weird....lol

BTW..How do you get to make the page scroll down to the exact reply? In other words, I know how to copy and paste a link, but was always intrigued as to how someone enabled the link to a specific reply (like the one with yours about the butterfly) in a page?....

Thanx...

Reply #10

justxploring — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:15:43 GMT

Pac, look here.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/180056/1103276

Reply #9

pacattack05 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:12:49 GMT

Justx...now they're saying the storm is strengthening over land....HMMMM.....and might return across the state and enter the gulf....LOL

Reply #8

pacattack05 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:10:47 GMT

At Justx

I don't know about that.

If you went back and split the JP with Jack, you could have easily came back to Bonita temporarily to help an ailing neighbor live longer by helping them with health care, and in turn, thus possibly having more kids, and one of the kids could grow up to be another Hitler or Bill gates !...lol

Butterfly effect.

BTW....I didn't see your earlier post about the butterfly effect, and secondly, I didn't see your first reply to this post, because I was app... [ More ]

Reply #7

justxploring — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:03:00 GMT

I wrote about the butterfly effect in an earlier comment today, but I'm not so sure splitting a jackpot with someone would hurt anything! LOL I didn't say I wanted to win the whole thing!

However, let's say last night I hit Fantasy 5 in Florida. Nobody won so there was another rolldown and over 276 people got 4 out of 5 and won $823. Let's say that money was the only thing that got a family through the month or paid for a doctor's visit where a test found a lump just in time. So then I would... [ More ]

Reply #6

pacattack05 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:02:05 GMT

So, if you have a time machines, and are all set to go back and hit lotteries left and right, but you get to a time when there were no lotteries....

But if I had a time machine, I'd make sure I'd adjust the settings to go back only in time when there were lotto drawings.

Reply #5

Coin Toss — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:59:01 GMT

Bingo!

In 1964, New Hampshire created a state lottery, the first legalAmerican lottery in this century. Within several years, New Hampshirewas followed by New York and New Jersey. In 1971, nationwide lotterysales surpassed $100 million for the first time.

From mondobet, the History of lotteries.

(Justxploring, I thought you would have got it because of NH)

So, if you have a time machines, and are all set to go back and hit lotteries left and right, but you get to a time when there we... [ More ]

Reply #4

pacattack05 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:56:29 GMT

You would cause irrecovable damage to space and time fabric continuum, thus changing the vortex within curvatures of planes of existence, therefore matter would cease to exist in the entirety of the universe.

Not a good idea.

I chose the last week's pea knuckle game prediction. But that miniscule and seemingly irrevelent event will cause a rift in time thru small changes affecting the next event and so on......

The butterfly effect.

Reply #3

justxploring — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:56:24 GMT

Thanks for your confidence in me, Coin Toss, but I have to admit I'd choose the Lottery. Nobody needs $314 million and, if I could pick a date, it would be Christmas 2002! Jack's life wouldn't be any more miserable if he only won $157 million.

BobP just reminded me of a Twilight Zone where I man somehow ends up in the future. He gets some penicillin and goes back to save his son who becomes a doctor. It would be nice to take the polio vaccine back to the 1950s or the flu shot back to 1918, bu... [ More ]

Reply #2

BobP — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:51:48 GMT

Well lotto precludes the need to amass a small fortune to make a big fortune with. Knowing what stock or land to buy is nice, if you can afford to buy it.

I would try to buy some land in Las Vegas for a dollar an acre.

Some events are locked into history, are pivot points that cannot be changed, but others might be more fluid allowing for a different winner with minimal changes to the time stream.

I've always liked the idea of investing money to create a fund for when time trav... [ More ]

Reply #1

JonnyBgood07 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:51:36 GMT

I went with knowing what stocks to buy...Btw has the lotto been around for at least 50 years?..I mean state running ones anyhow

POLL: Time travel

Coin Toss — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:38:11 GMT

Let's say time travel is perfected and yuo can go back 50 or 100 years.

Which would be your first preference.

Hint: Be careful with lotto - I think justxploring will get this one, but am pretty sure some here will miss it.

What would you do with foreknowledge of upcoming events? Or could you really do anything?

Remember the Twilight Zone when the guy went back and tried to stop the Kennedy assassination