10 Digits, in How many 5 Pairs groups of them are there?

Reply #20

jr-va — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 11:22:19 GMT

Odds of winning the pairs game are only 1:4 if you play one of the following 4 lines across:

a) 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

b) 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50

c) 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75

d) 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 00

Reply #19

jr-va — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:17:31 GMT

poeple, thank you all for posting the combos

it is interesting, and playing any one line across (from the above) has a 1:9 chance of winning the pairs game (doubles excluded).

Reply #18

LANTERN — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:16:58 GMT

Thanks a lot! Mr Ragwi.

But I think that only software could make use of so many such groups, perhaps some stats and filter uses, but I won't know for a long while, as work by hand is very hard and takes very long and I don't yet feel like doing it.

Fernando.

Reply #17

sysp34 — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:37:52 GMT

Monsieur Fernando

There are 945 pairs (945 vs 945)as JohnP talking about and here are the list just in case you're interested

Pairs Pairs

01 23 45 67 89 10 32 54 76 98

01 23 45 68 79 10 32 54 86 97

01 23 45 69 78 10 32 54 96 87

01 23 46 57 89 10 32 64 75 98

01 23 46 58 79 10 32 64 85 97

01 23 46 59 78 10 32 64 95 87

01 23 47 56 89 10 32 74 65 98

01 23 47 58 69 10 32 74 85 96

01 23 47 59 68 10 32 74 95 86

01 23 48 56 79 10 32 84 65... [ More ]

Reply #16

LANTERN — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:04:14 GMT

Se or Ragwi

Thanks a Lot!

But I don't need those combinations.

Probably, if I ever have time to research any uses for them, I might only use one or a very few of them, a simple use for one of them that I tried a few days ago, gave some stats that I thought that might be of some use for me, but I could not use them, there are still one or more things to try with them, but not for a while.

Thanks again

Reply #15

sysp34 — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:14:56 GMT

Monsieur Fernando

about 100 pairs number why not use =combin(y,x) function in spreadsheet where y numbers and x numbers choosen

total combinaton pairs cycles

75.287.520 100 5

1.221.759 45 5

how to create them use i suggest you might use expert lotto or maybe later i send all combination in text if you're interested

gl

Reply #14

CARBOB — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:28:50 GMT

You are welcome, I was hoping we could stir up some discussion on the best way to use them.

Reply #13

Raven62 — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:55:25 GMT

Many Thanks Carbob! I appreciate the chart you posted! This will be very useful in the evaluation of Pair Strings.

Reply #12

LANTERN — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:42:18 GMT

As I don't program nor make spreadsheets, I don't have use for all those numbers, I myself can already make the few groups that I would use if any at all, as I have to delay that particular research as it takes too much time and work.

Just the same, thanks a lot!

I better not talk any more about possible uses for such numbers, cause if I am right, (I might not be) I don't dare.

Thanks again!

Too bad that I can't no longer trust anybody on the Web to help me with the pick 3 game, migh... [ More ]

Reply #11

CARBOB — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:01:18 GMT

In case someone is interested.

01-23-45-67-89

01-23-45-68-79

01-23-45-69-78

01-23-46-57-89

01-23-46-58-79

01-23-46-59-78

01-23-47-65-89

01-23-47-68-59

01-23-47-69-58

01-23-48-65-79

01-23-48-67-59

01-23-48-69-75

01-23-49-65-78

01-23-49-67-85

01-23-49-68-75

01-24-35-67-89

01-24-35-68-79

01-24-35-69-78

01-24-36-57-89

01-24-36-58-79

01-24-36-59-78

01-24-37-65-89

01-24-37-68-59

Reply #10

Mark J — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:27:09 GMT

Hi LANTERN,

I created 9 groups of 5 without the doubles and it was hard to do, the pais are in one position only, u may call these box pairs not straight like FT Pairs and BK Pairs in both positions,

so if U would like me to post them let me know U can also find me on the florida forum were I'm thinking of posting them if anyone need them.

Reply #9

LANTERN — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:44:45 GMT

Answering DiamondPalace's question on another thread-post, might had answered also one of my questions:

Below there might be 35 possible patterns made by the Xs below the SubGroups, either 35 or 125 3Xs patterns, probably 35.

Doing a very very long section of past draws would let me know for sure, what do I mean? Look at the text in Red on the right of the patterns.

Group # 1 (Just an example). First possible group out of many.

SubGroups:

01 02 03 04 05 Always from SubGroup 1 to S... [ More ]

Reply #8

LANTERN — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:48:58 GMT

John

Thank you very much.

That is a lot of combinations.

That would mean 2 things:

That there are that many possible sets of VTracks and:

That there are that many 2 X 5 Digits Boxed Filter Groups for a game such as the pick 3, so per each pick 3 draw maybe (I am not sure about this) there would be 945 possible boxed patterns for that particular kind of filter.

Thanks a lot again

Reply #7

johnph77 — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:18:53 GMT

Then the above product would have to be divided by 120, since there are that many different ways of arranging any specific five-pair grouping. This leaves you with 945 different groupings meeting your criteria. And you are correct - I'm swamped with work right now - I probably have enough of that to keep me occupied through the end of next year. But thanks for the thought.

gl

j

Reply #6

LANTERN — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:02:45 GMT

John

Thank you very much, but there might be still fewer combinations as any-one pair-subgroup can be in any position, the pairs-subgroups are as if they were jacpot games' lotto numbers they are BOXED or Any Order.

So: 01 23 is the same as 10 32 and it is also the same as 23 01 and 32 10, each 2 digits combination is 1 Unit and can be on any position out of the 5 possible subgroups positions, same as on a lotto jackpot game, they are boxed, so:

01 23 45 67 89 is exactly the same as 98... [ More ]

Reply #5

johnph77 — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:09:45 GMT

JohnPH

I was talking about combinations where each number (Digit from 0 to 9) is unique such as on your 2 examples:

01 23 45 67 89 = 10 32 54 76 98

98 76 54 32 10 = 89 67 45 23 01

And also like:

02 13 46 57 98 = 20 31 64 75 89

97 86 53 42 01 = 79 68 35 24 10

That should make them even fewer combinations.

Each pair is: Pair 1, Pair 2, Pair 3, Pair 4 and Pair 5. or SubGroup 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.

They would be used for digits' stats, so the order 01 or 10 on any pair does not... [ More ]

Reply #4

LANTERN — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:51:49 GMT

I just perfected the chart from which the 5 pairs (SubGroups) per each group of 2 X 5 filter matrices will be picked from, the first chart that I made was half wrong.

Looking at that chart made me remember that those groups can also be used (I think) as a sort of VTracks if a person wanted to, as some prior early and basic VTracks work showed.

I had dropped my VTracks work as I didn't want to get into any other kind of filterering ways, than what I was already using.

Now, it is either t... [ More ]

Reply #3

LANTERN — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:03:10 GMT

John

I just found a no software way that I can use for getting enough such groups of numbers, it is not fast like software, but about a minute to 5 minutes per matrix is not too bad, I really need only about 2 to 10 of them, I wanted more, but they are not really needed for that particular filtration stage, those will be the small matrices, there will also be bigger matrices, for second stage filtration and last for third stage filtration, but I won't need any help for the later 2 kinds, that... [ More ]

Reply #2

LANTERN — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:44:59 GMT

Reply #1

johnph77 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:12:28 GMT

Off the top of my head, so may not be completely accurate.....

There would be 10,000,000,000 different possibilities, ranging from 00 00 00 00 00 to 99 99 99 99 99.

Of these, there would be 3,628,800 combinations listed where each number is unique, ranging from 01 23 45 67 89 to 98 76 54 32 10.

Allowing for this, for instance, the second grouping would be 01 23 45 67 98.

No reason why they couldn't be listed.

Is this what you were asking?

gl

j

10 Digits, in How many 5 Pairs groups of them are there?

LANTERN — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:17:45 GMT

With 10 digits from 0 to 9

How many groups of 5 pairs each are there?

In which each group of 5 pairs has all the 10 digits from 0 to 9 among the 5 pairs in that group.

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There are 100 possible pairs of the digits 0 to 9, But of them, Which 5 combination of pairs have all the 10 digits in them and How many such groups are there?

Some pairs can repeat from one group of 5 pairs to another group of 5 pairs, so long as not all the pairs repeat from one group to another grou... [ More ]