CA SLP: Abysmal Rollover Rate?

Reply #9

ambelamba — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:18:34 GMT

Does this have anything to do with the budget crisis? I thought lottery revenue can be independent from it because the money comes from different sources.

It would mighty suck if this is the last time the jackpot for Super Lotto Plus goes beyond 20 millions.

Reply #8

grengrad — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:02:13 GMT

$600,000 is bad.

Reply #7

ambelamba — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:44:06 GMT

Oh, great. Now it's 36millions. At this rate virtually no one will want to play California Super Lotto anymore.

Reply #6

ambelamba — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:22:29 GMT

Now it's 35 millions with $24,700,000 cash value. Wow. Just...wow.

Reply #5

grengrad — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:01:18 GMT

Let me clarify my post.

The last jackpot was $33,000,000 .... $23,200,000 cash value.

Current Jackpot is $34,000,000 .... $24,100,000 cash value

That is $900,000 more money in actual cash.

1 year ago. The California SLP was paying out about 170% of the cash value in annuity value.

Today the CA SLP is paying out 141% of the cash value in annuity value.

Right now a rollover of $2,000,000 in the annuity requires $1,420,000 in real cash, whereas 1 year ago it only took $1,190,... [ More ]

Reply #4

Todd — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:59:16 GMT

This is a good point. If you check the jackpot statistics for Calif. SLP, you will see that it is the smallest rollover ever we have recorded for the game. Much smaller than the average rollover.

Reply #3

grengrad — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:46:33 GMT

The rates of annuities dropped massively in the last 5 months. There was just a federal interest rate cut, and annuity rates while not directly tied to that also dropped with it.

Powerball, for example, went from paying about 60.5% to nearly 63% when taking the cash up front. Only 6 months ago, it was paying 50%.

In other words, an annuity for Powerball was paying:

200% of the cash value 6 months ago.

165% of the cash value 1 week.

159% of the cash value now.

This is the worst

Reply #2

ambelamba — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:06:38 GMT

Yeah, but the actual cash value has increased. A year ago the amount has to reach 40 millions to get 17 millions in cash value. Now the jackpot amount is 34 millions but the cash value after tax is about 18.4 millions.

Reply #1

bytheshore — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:35:55 GMT

Wow. That's bad. I don't think that's ever happened before, has it? It's always rolled at least $2M.

CA SLP: Abysmal Rollover Rate?

ambelamba — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:33:14 GMT

The jackpot amount for the last time was 33 millions. Now it's 34 millions. That's just 1 million increase. Well, when the amount reaches about 30 millons the rollover rate is about 3 millions.

Wow, does bad economy hit the lottery rollover rate, too? Or do people spend money on gifts, not lottery on Holiday season? Well, it's just a dollar or two to play. Why are people shying away from buying lottery