Psyche of the Pick 3/4 Player

Reply #21

CARBOB — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:00:19 GMT

This thread might give you some ideas.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/204257/1469313

Reply #20

Rowen — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:10:08 GMT

I'm just new to this and bad at math but have noticed in last month in IL for pick 3 that doubles and returning number happen about 40-50% so can you match the doubles with a returning number for a box hit. So say you play 30 lines for a $1 each and hit the 3way box for $160 right? Guess going for a straight hit is possible too right?

Once again I am a complete novice but am curious...

Reply #19

JAP69 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:09:34 GMT

Use the inspector 4

Input all pick 4 box combos to start. The results will come up sorted by categories. Then clear the input area and then copy and paste the doubles into the input area. The results will come up sorted which will also have key number listings.

As a new member you have linited use of the inspector 3 and 4 for trial use which can be found in systems.

Reply #18

joker17 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:54 GMT

Every lottery manual I've read in the past 21 years has said it's about every 4 days. And they weren't referring to just one state. They were talking about the national average. Just by looking at numbers in NY were I used to live, and here in FL where I live now, seems to prove that fact correct. Not a big deal, just saying...lol

Reply #17

Jordans121 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:16:14 GMT

its a disaster for starters and mature players to play doubles

Reply #16

Jordans121 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:15:24 GMT

my bad you talkin' bout p3. The average is some where between 8 to 10. Never mind I play double every blue moon any way

Reply #15

Jordans121 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:09:03 GMT

Here in Illinois doubles are very frequent. dont know about your state will have to check.

Reply #14

rindo — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:58:34 GMT

So that now covers the 719 non-single boxes as well as all the single boxes by root number and key numbers. Can you give an example of using a Pick 4 wheel to pull this altogether? What numbers do you put in if you were trying to determine the 46 non-single boxes and you knew one of the numbers as was stated earlier in this post. Would the positional Pick 4 wheel on Lottery Post do this or would you need a non-positional wheell

Reply #13

joker17 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:51:50 GMT

Now, heres the catch. Doubles are draws at an average estimate of 1 time every 10 draws for most states.

I've always thought doubles in the p-3 occur on average every 4 days or so, not 10.

Reply #12

Jordans121 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:37:45 GMT

dont need to load them into excel just use a pick 4 wheel.

Reply #11

CARBOB — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:10:05 GMT

All singles in Last Digit Sums and Key Numbers

Sum Last Digit:

0 22 0.4% 2567 0578 1568 0569 6789 0127 0136 0235 0145 1234 2468 1379 3458 3467 0389 1289 0479 1478 2369 2459 1469 2378

1 20 0.4% 2568 0678 3567 0579 1569 1578 0128 0146 0236 0245 0137 1235 3468 0489 2478 2469 3459 1389 2379 1479

2 22 0.4% 1579 3568 4567 0589 2569 2578 0679 1678 0246 0345 0138 0129 0147 0237 1236 1245 3469 3478 1489 2389 2479 0156

3 20 0.4% 4568 0689 2678 3569 3578 1589 1679 2579 0346 0148 0238 1246 0... [ More ]

Reply #10

rindo — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:29:39 GMT

Thanks JAP69! I assume that the 0 1 1 (last 3 columns) can be ignored since they are identical for all numbers..

I'll load them into Excel and be able to sort out the triples, dbldbl, quads, etc...

Reply #9

JAP69 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:08:36 GMT

Here a list of the box combos. I do not use excell but others do on this site.

COMBO

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

0 0 0 0 0 1 1

0 0 0 1 0 1 1

0 0 0 2 0 1 1

0 0 0 3 0 1 1

0 0 0 4 0 1 1

0 0 0 5 0 1 1

0 0 0 6 0 1 1

0 0 0 7 0 1 1

0 0 0 8 0 1 1

0 0 0 9 0 1 1

0 0 1 1 0 1 1

0 0 1 2 0 1 1

0 0 1 3 0 1 1

0 0 1 4 0 1 1

0 0 1 5 0 1 1

0 0 1 6 0 1 1

0 0 1 7 0 1 1

0 0 1 8 0 1 1

0 0 1 9 0 1 1

0 0 2

Reply #8

rindo — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:47:03 GMT

You need to post all the numbers into either of these tools. What I am minimamlly looking for is the list of 715 box numbers for Pick 4 and ideally an Excel sheet to work with them. I primarily use and prefer Excel. Thanks

Reply #7

JAP69 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:20:47 GMT

Use your deflate and inspector tools to look for things due in the doubles only drawn list.

You are tracking the doubles only. You could also include triples in the tracking if you like.

My theory is that tracking doubles only as a separate game is the same as separating the drawn numbers into other segments to look for data.

Reply #6

rindo — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:00:19 GMT

Do you have an easy method or tool to determine these 48 picks such as excel that would be helpful

Reply #5

Jordans121 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:06:07 GMT

I will be trying this new method out but with a twist cause I'm not big on playing 48 numbers. lol

Reply #4

Jordans121 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:08:40 GMT

I personally use spread sheets with self made filters you will have to find your way of finding the key digit (not due digit) pr work off of a specific double. Pick your poison

Reply #3

Divine Guidance — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:04:13 GMT

Jordans121 with all that being said how to i find the due digits is it the hot ones or the cold ones

Reply #2

Jordans121 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:55:23 GMT

If you are fluent with certain wheels you can filter even more to create lesser numbers making you virtually unstoppable ( at least hit once before paying all money back). Cool huh?

I'm shopping for doubles here in Illinois

Reply #1

Jordans121 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:44:34 GMT

Back test you lottery for every 8 draws with 48 double numbers form 1 key digit

Psyche of the Pick 3/4 Player

Jordans121 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:35:55 GMT

Over the last few months I have been studying the pick 3 and pick 4 extensively from spreadsheets to software. And I had an interesting observation. I concluded that the pick 4 is easier and less expensive than the pick 3 for the average and well informed player. Certainly you might be saying No Way but let me explain. In the pick 3 we have 220 possible combinations (as you may already know). When you break down these combinations you will notice the fact that triples are drawn rarely. That leav... [ More ]