Lottery donation decision

Reply #24

ConstantlyB — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:20:37 GMT

I think that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Given from the heart...I don't see the problem. It's not like I'm trying to buy my way into heaven......just get a tax break from Ceasar.....whom I would have already rendered his due before my check was cut.

Reply #23

Tenaj — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:20:07 GMT

Some people are ignorable with their righteous ethical attitudes. They are the worst kind of sinners that hurt people and say it's right when all they need to do is love.

Reply #22

BaristaExpress — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:15:43 GMT

I can say there would be no problem about it at all gonnawinwatchme. You know why? Most Catholic Church's have bingo 2 nights a week every week! How do you like that for advocating gambling

Reply #21

gonnawinwatchme — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:00:53 GMT

That's very interesting! I wonder if a church or religious school would feel the same way. I have always wanted to donate money to my daughter's Catholic school and my alma matter (Catholic

Reply #20

sirbrad — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:12:34 GMT

Yeah if you are honest about where it comes from they do not want it, but if you lie then it is accepted.

Reply #19

rdgrnr — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:51:25 GMT

Dumb move by the SA. They could've done a lot of good and helped a lot of people with that money. How do they know that a lot of the money thrown in their kettles doesn't come from gamblers? To remain so holier-than-thou maybe they should require everyone who donates to sign a form swearing that their donation didn't come from gambling proceeds or shady business deals or robbing convenience stores. What a ridiculous decision that was.

Reply #18

sirbrad — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:32:31 GMT

Money is not the root of all evil, the lack of it is. Gene Simmons.

Reply #17

Raven62 — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:13:43 GMT

Reply #16

Coin Toss — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:11:01 GMT

Raveb62,

Well, I'm not an activist for one thing, for another, I know that in these kind of situations you're not going to change beaurecrats minds.

When I worked in casinos one of the river boats tried to give the food the restaurant didn't use everyday to a church -run food pantry. The food was still good but the restaurant couldn;t keep it to sell.

The churches that ran the food pantry told the casino, No thanks, not coming from you guys.

Reply #15

KY Floyd — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:59:10 GMT

They are an Evangelical Christian group.

That's it in a nutshell. I think most people are familair with their thrift stores and simply think of them as a run of the mill charity, without considering that the name wasn't chosen at random. Since they're opposed to gambling it would clearly be hypocritical to accept a donation of gambling proceeds. By accepting the monet they would essentially be approving the activities that resulted in acquiring the money.

I'd guess that it's fairly easy t... [ More ]

Reply #14

four4me — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:17:45 GMT

under no circumstance will the salvation army knowingly accept money from a person or persons who won money from the lottery.

They are an Evangelical Christian group.

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf/vw-local/About-us

Gambling

The Salvation Army believes that gambling engages its participants and promoters in an exercise of greed contrary to biblical moral teaching. Gambling at best wastes personal resources, and at worst afflicts millions through a lifestyle of... [ More ]

Reply #13

LANTERN — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:03:13 GMT

This is a lottery forum and this is not the place for this, but it is related in a way to what you are talking about here.

If Satan himself does good, then he is doing the work of God, even if he is the Devil himself.

If a Divine being or any body else, does evil then he, she, or them are doing the work of Satan regardless of who he or she is.

If the Satan gives money to the Salvation Army, I say take it, it is not who gave it to you or to them, but what are you going to do with it that... [ More ]

Reply #12

sirbrad — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:02:55 GMT

I give a lot to the SA, but in this case they are stupid idiots. Take the donation and help others. $10 million should delete any morals.

Reply #11

cheryl59 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:09:57 GMT

I believe that God truly blesses Us in many different ways! some Blessings may not always be wrapped up with pretty paper and a bow tied on it... something made this person donate that wonderful amount of money to the SA how do we know that God did not prompt this person to go to the SA and make that donation? I'm sure their are a whole lot of other agencies and charities that will gladly take his generous donation, the SA is as needy an organization as the rest, especially with our current econ... [ More ]

Reply #10

Raven62 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:24:25 GMT

If you don't agree with the Gambling Policy of the Salvation Army, then do something about it: Take some action: Become a Barrier Braker and change their Gambling Policies

Reply #9

joker17 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:00:25 GMT

The Salvation Army takes a stand against gambling that involves the act of risking money, property or something of value on an activity that gives material advantage based on chance and at the expense of others. The Salvation Army opposes gambling on spiritual and moral grounds and because of its tragic social implications.

Lottery revenue goes to schools. That's not such a bad thing.

Also, what if someone who made millions in the stock market and decided to donate? Isn't that gambling... [ More ]

Reply #8

four4me — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:56:35 GMT

I admit at first glance i put maybe this was before i went to their web site and read a few things about the organization. As an officer i would have to stand beside the beliefs of the organization. And vote no but there are circumstances where by which i might want to put it to a vote.

Many things would require me as an officer to do this one being the organization is about to collapse because the monetary donations at some point in time might be so low as to require funding to keep the orga... [ More ]

Reply #7

Coin Toss — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:55:38 GMT

JAP69,

Thanks for finding the article.

hearsetrax,

Thanks for the insight.

Raven62,

That all sounds good on paper, but how many people could have beneftited from the $10,000,000 they refused? That's a significant amounf of money.

From your post quoting the SA

....concerning the responsibility to use money productively, to guard against greed, and not to gain at the expense of others.

What about the downtrodden and those in need not benefitting because of the stubborness... [ More ]

Reply #6

Raven62 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:36:53 GMT

They said NO: Because they Talk-the-Talk and they Walk-the-Walk:

The Salvation Army takes a stand against gambling that involves the act of risking money, property or something of value on an activity that gives material advantage based on chance and at the expense of others. The Salvation Army opposes gambling on spiritual and moral grounds and because of its tragic social implications.

The Salvation Army is deeply concerned that gambling, used by governments and organizations to ra... [ More ]

Reply #5

hearsetrax — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:29:06 GMT

having spent the couple of years working at thar thrift stores... I know for a fact I wouldn't put it past them to talk out both sides and invent a 3rd just for the grins of it

course I've seen what became of the few food donations

Reply #4

JAP69 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:07:02 GMT

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/813295/posts

The money that Mr. Rush received was via the lottery: We preach against gambling, said spokeswoman Maribeth Shanahan, who spoke on behalf of Cleo Damon, who heads the Collier County chapter and decided not to accept the donation. To accept it would be to talk out both sides of our mouth.

Reply #3

lottocalgal — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:24:40 GMT

Sure I would, why not? Did the Salvation Army give reason to their refusal? I must have missed that one. I have wondered if my church would refuse a donation WHEN I win. But even though I love my church, if they did refuse it, there are alot of local women and animal shelter that I bet wouldnt.

Reply #2

fja — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:24:03 GMT

I do not know the inner workings of the Salvation Army...yearly revenues, major contributors, and alliances. I know them as shopping mall bell ringers and second hand item collectors....I think the answer is not as simple as yes and no....A 10 million dollar donation from a lottery winner that wants no fan fair and publicity is different from one who wants to shout it to the stars....You might lose more than you gain with the latter.

Reply #1

markp1950 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:06:07 GMT

Well, when I win my millions, I will give to somebody else!

MarkP

Lottery donation decision

joker17 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:46:23 GMT

A few years ago, the Salvation army declined a donation from a person who won the lottery. 10 million dollar's worth.

The poll is asking whether you would accept the donation if you were the head person in charge.

If you chose NO and agree with the Army's decision, please explain why.

Thanx.