Praying?

Reply #421

visiondude — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 02:43:14 GMT

if you are referring to air guitar , then yes, i resemble that remark.

i actually did that on my front porch last night after mowing the lawn with my Ipod on to a creed song. my neighbors did not come out of their house to show their appreciation

i am good at it in my head movies, just don't put any money on me in one of those professional air guitar contests.

although, if i ever did enter one, i would put every muscle i have on the line to try for 2nd place

Reply #420

joker17 — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 02:24:04 GMT

You may not play the guitar, but everyone has a version of their own...

Reply #419

visiondude — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 01:05:23 GMT

He is.

even though He gave you the gift of playing guitar, and totally passed me by on that one, you are still.......correct

Reply #418

joker17 — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:49:49 GMT

God is great

Reply #417

visiondude — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:33:46 GMT

the board is still fishing for stories of weathering the storms of life, and not only God taking care of you, but more importantly, you recogning the fact that His choice of a no , over your yes , yielded a MUCH BETTER result than if it HAD been a yes .

given that everyone does, and the shear odds of people in here, there should be plenty of examples waiting in the wings.

bring it --------- (i rediscovered the emotioncons a little while back (after being away from LP for a bit. i do

Reply #416

visiondude — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:25:06 GMT

it was a two-fer .

it was intended to be funny, but to also demonstrate the futility of assigning blame to something that doesn't deserve it, despites ones initial emotional response ...

if you caught my intellectual (sort of) tie-in comedic drift

Reply #415

joker17 — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 23:52:42 GMT

That only proves he's lost his mind. I too have to admit that was funny . Hey Vision, you're a riot

Reply #414

rdgrnr — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 23:18:11 GMT

5) i skipped number four, because i lost respect for that number (thanks to you)

(9) i will put the #4 on probation, and most likely return it to it's rightfully earned rotation. it's just a number. it isn't #4's fault that it is connected to you. it did nothing wrong, so i shouldn't blame it , for something it didn't do

_________________________________________________________

I don't care what anyone says; That was funny.

Reply #413

marcie — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:12:29 GMT

God Bless Everyone

Reply #412

marcie — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:10:42 GMT

I just read this Friendship!! Your are so right God is good. He is the Prince of Peace. I never thought of praying to win the Lottery! But maybe I will try it!! It might Help to hit the Big one!! The Mega Million. I trust and Believe he is in control of my Life too. Yes I believe in Prayer.

Reply #411

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:41:58 GMT

yes yes yes and a 1,000 yes's on that description. that is 100% biblically accurate.

i wish someone would come on here, and demonstrate the effectiveness of a no answer in their lives.

i for one have weathered many storms in life because of no or i have a better idea answers.

a no , because God could have alleviated my circumstances anytime He chose to do so, and purposefully didn't, no matter how many times i prayed He would.

it wasn't because of some lying edict that i suffered... [ More ]

Reply #410

sweetbully13 — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:18:04 GMT

prayer is answered three ways: yes, not yet or I ve got a better idea than that. (3). God has already given you that information and wants you to have confidence in your own ability to hear him clearly.

Reply #409

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:47:54 GMT

when you engaged me you knew it would cause a problem

nope. you must be referring to the past, that i would 'automatically' think it would cause a problem. actually, i was thinking you were different , but then you went prehistoric on me, which brought the past back into relevancy.

otherwise yes, i know what i say and do eventually creates conflict. the only reason it does, is the climate of intolerance anymore of people like you, who don't like it when someone becomes narrow about Chri... [ More ]

Reply #408

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 06:51:51 GMT

i haven't been active in other threads, for the exact opposite reasons you inSINuated........ i am not a troll.

one thing i always do, is act man enough to handle my business, and not run away from a challenge, making pathetic excuses, unlike you.

go ahead and archive my posts going years back. not once have i ever pulled a DD, and left the building because someone challenged me, or asked me a hard question , then blamed someone else on my way out the door, or whined that what someone els... [ More ]

Reply #407

four4me — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 06:42:52 GMT

Are you that one tracked minded..... you cant conceivably be that aragont..... for some one to be so learned in the word i cant for the life of me understand why you keep harping on this when you engaged me you knew it would cause a problem.... so you are the initiator of all this... it's senseless to keep going on about it.

You keep coming at me with this stupid rhetoric. Your making a mockery out of this. Would your god want you to persist in this unnecessary trivial pursuit of me. Isn't th... [ More ]

Reply #406

Delta Draw — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:54:18 GMT

Wow!

ManicVision s last post at 23 minutes after the hour is number 112. Guess how many other threads he has been active in since his first post in this thread: ZERO.

He is totally manic on this folks. The solution is to just not reply to him. He has totally hijacked this thread and he jumps who ever has a leg showing he can jump. It s beyond a reasonable discussion and there is no room for any objectivity, honesty or civility from his side of the fence. He will engage whoever he can flam... [ More ]

Reply #405

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:23:49 GMT

so let me get this straight, just so i get a clearer picture of what's running thru your wishful thinking mind...

(1) it's not the person who engages first , because i neither engaged joker or DD first.......OTHER PEOPLE DID (i am off the hook on that one)

(2) other people responded to thier posts as well (so i am off the hook on that as well)

(3) i DID reply to your posts, but since you reply to other peoples post's all over LP, that isn't directed at you, for like years, (i am off the... [ More ]

Reply #404

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 04:50:54 GMT

good.

now that we are friends joker, you can go back thru the thread, and cull all the other posts where i did. thanks

it will shore up my case against four's recent integrity spillage

listen......all in all i don't have a problem with you per se, in that i recognize you are searching .

searching. testing. feeling out belief systems. asking the absolute hardest question than a man can answer. challenging beliefs. all that's legit. doesn't offend me in the least

what isn't leg... [ More ]

Reply #403

four4me — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 04:31:29 GMT

You will never get a apology from me. Joker and i don't see eye to eye on lots of things and i won't spend the rest of my life trying to prove something to him,,,, he just won't ever come around to.

I'm giving you the floor now you can continue harassing them since i never butted into any of your post to them there should be no reason for you to respond to me. Just leave my name out of your posts. And everything should work out good for you.

Reply #402

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 04:20:36 GMT

All in all most of your posts also have nothing to do with the topic

oh, but i don't mind what you say, so that's totally cool. .........lol

oh no four, it has nothing to do with me . your just a man that deals out the cards on the basis of integrity. you know, what's fair no matter who is involved.

seriously, if your wishful thinking is that bad, like obsession level type stuff, see if you can find someone to take your place, because you are really bad at this.

you still owe... [ More ]

Reply #401

four4me — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 04:16:57 GMT

I'm not the person that engaged them in my beliefs you are I'm not the one that responded to your post to them, you replied to my post that wasn't directed specifically to anyone. And cant stop posting to me. It wasn't me who dug up the past so why are you persisting to harp on me.

Reply #400

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 04:04:15 GMT

I'm not blaming you for anything

your impersonation of integrity pinnochio seems to be growing larger with each of your posts, but that's a straight up lie, four.

your said it was because of me, that this thread went off topic (which i proved joker started it, if anyone did), because you stated i was the one that highjacked it for my own agenda .

funny, you never mentioned that to DD about his incessant spillage. your sure not an equal integrity opportunist employer

so you... [ More ]

Reply #399

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:46:22 GMT

read the above post, and grow a conscience, four.

make sure you read the date / time stamp so that you can't claim it was posted in some other thread, or some side step of your ongoing personal hypocrisy. you did here (in your archived post above), exactly what you accused me of.

this is a joke on more levels than i have superlatives for

as far as i know, todd is still alive, didn't die, and designated you the lottery post police chief.

so unless you can produce a jpeg of your LP... [ More ]

Reply #398

joker17 — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:37:03 GMT

Reply #397

four4me — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:17:25 GMT

All in all most of your posts also have nothing to do with the topic, your a clown meaning you generally clown around. I didn't reply to your post either and generally stay away from that. I have no specific comment for what you wrote. Visionless is jumping down my throat bating me because he thinks I'm singling him out. Visionless wants to provoke me and he'll go to great lengths to do so. Don't let it bother you. My intent now is to provoke him back until he stops posting a reply to me. If he... [ More ]

Reply #396

joker17 — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:32:06 GMT

I'm a clown because I made such a profound statement as that one?

Boy did I have you pegged wrong....

I may be a joker, but I wasn't joking when I wrote that one....sorry.....

Unless I'm reading your quote wrong....

Reply #395

joker17 — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:20:57 GMT

Unbelievable....lol

Not ONE Bible quote in his reply to me.....WOW!

I'm proud of you Vision. You actually used your brain to write those words and not quoting your life away......

You write like a learned man. I just think that your a little confused.

Reply #394

four4me — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:15:05 GMT

I'm not blaming you for anything the whole post should have been locked since it has nothing to do with the lottery.

Almost every post in this topic doesn't belong here.

Todd doesn't monitor every post on here the only way he knows about a post gone of the path about the lottery is if someone reports it or he actually finds the time to read some.... lots of people take advantage of this.

Here is another example

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/216550

Reply #393

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 01:59:40 GMT

What does it have to do with anything .

now your feigning ignorance? gee, what's next in your repetoir?

now that you actually replicated who did what first, now you can ramble on all you want, it proved you make your accusations based soley on personal agenda, and not facts.

whats completely dumbfounding four, is that you copy and pasted it for every one to see.

it proved it wasn't me first, just me, or any other pull it out of thin-air trick you thought you had on me.... [ More ]

Reply #392

four4me — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 01:10:47 GMT

Once again I'm not trying to prosecute anyone. You are now harassing me this is the 4th post below on the first page. What does it have to do with anything.

Joker is a clown he knows it everyone else knows it.

Now your a clown tooo.

Quote: Originally posted by iGlenn on June 12, 2010

I'm not a religious person, but if I was I would only really pray for those that are sick and hungry, and that my loved ones be kept out of harms way. There are millions of people that are a lot l... [ More ]

Reply #391

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:24:06 GMT

four4me,

read the 4th post down, on the 1st page of this thread, then go find another hobby .

(you would make a horrible prosecution attorney

Reply #390

four4me — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:21:49 GMT

I knew it you cant stop replying to my posts no matter what.

Again I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU WRITE ON HERE TO ANYONE ELSE. WRITE TILL YOU HANDS FALL OFF FOR ALL I CARE.

JUST LEAVE ME OUT OF IT

Reply #389

visiondude — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:08:19 GMT

(1) if you had actually read my posts, instead of your ire driven agenda, where you seem to suffer from selective memory loss, i made it clear that not only do i believe in prayer (in this thread), i made posts where i detailed my opinion of the effectiveness of how to pray in relation to the lottery (in this thread).

(2) i won't need to respond to your posts, when you quit lying about me being the bad guy here.

you still have yet to include anyone else in your accusation ramble (includin... [ More ]

Reply #388

jrosina — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:28:21 GMT

four4for me! I believe In Praying!!! I said it before! Yes I believe that we can Pray to win!!! I have done it in the past and many times I have gotten a YES answer!! some times it is NO, I have to Accept both... HE IS THE BOSS OF ME! I believe this!!!

And Prayer, is the key

Reply #387

four4me — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:17:13 GMT

The topic of this post is Praying

Do you believe in praying?

people could pray to a wall if they want to.

You feel targeted because you insist on replying to my posts all you have to do is

stop replying to my posts and i won't reply to yours.

It's that simple yet you accuse me of all sorts of things mostly derived from the past. In the past i held my position that if it's not about the lottery it doesn't belong here. Not my rule it's Todd's ask him he'll tell you th... [ More ]

Reply #386

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:42:05 GMT

it's ok DD, you can pretend you didn't, and hide behind four4me's posts, so you can also pretend i don't have to

we know what you really believe now

Reply #385

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:40:12 GMT

glad you brought it up, four.

illustrates why i left LP the last time...

i am a man who is totally unafraid to give it straight, especially on the God issue.

that thread highlights what i do.........i defend the rights of believers, the narrrowness of Jesus Christ, and the right to speak boldly about who God is, and what He wants from us. i defend that right, against the likes of you four, because that thread, and the many threads i was involved in goes exactly like this......

i star... [ More ]

Reply #384

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:16:05 GMT

you can say it all you want, four, that you are not attempting to shut me down , but the fact still remains that you are.

you said nothing about DD's posts, either in content (supposedly off topic ), or intent (as you accuse me of attacking beliefs ), nor did you say squat about jokers various posts attacking God, nor anyone else that made comments about God

DD incorporated abusive / condascending language many times in his off topic posts. where were you on that one, four?

the evi... [ More ]

Reply #383

four4me — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:41:08 GMT

Oh and i forgot to add you have over a hundred post in this topic. Way more than you did the last time you showed up to hijack a topic.

I might remind you to read the last post in this topic Todd wrote.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/116214

Reply #382

four4me — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:49:19 GMT

visionimpaired Wrote: and yes, your attempting to shut down what it is i do in here, because you don't like it. that's not gonna happen. ever

Are you hearing voices. When did i say i disliked what you do. In the last 8 pages.

You must want me to try since you keep harping on it. Well here goes again now you'll get my ire.

You say you have kept abreast of what goes on here at lottery post. Then you should know that their are posters here who asked Todd if they could have an open forum se... [ More ]

Reply #381

Delta Draw — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:27:57 GMT

I am number 8,000 and I did not read the post!

Yahoo!

DD

Reply #380

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:22:18 GMT

DD, do you want me to answer the question for you, in your own cult terminology, since your not man enough to do it yourself, or would you rather have the chance to speak on behalf of your cults teachings ?

we are waiting.

even joker can't wait for you to explain it

neither can we

Reply #379

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:17:59 GMT

four4me said...... You'll do everything in your power to dissuade them and win them over to your side .

the beauty of what i do is that i don't ever have to worry about the end results .

you have me confused with DD, as cults are all about manufacturing truth that attract the masses. interchangeable/ever changing/ever evolving truth .

nope. not me.

what i do is replicate truth. historical consistent contexual truth. provable truth.

all i have to do is repeat that, and it wi... [ More ]

Reply #378

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:48:28 GMT

truth is truth, if it is the truth, no matter who delivers it, or what his/her credentials are.

like being a card carrying minister is the only qualification to speak about the truths of God. cmon four, even you know thats an intellectually rediculous statement. according to that qualification process , you should let pedophiles babysit your children.

and yes, your attempting to shut down what it is i do in here, because you don't like it. that's not gonna happen. ever

the countries no... [ More ]

Reply #377

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:26:06 GMT

but hey, conVERSEly, if YOU put one on a tee......i will be more than happy to entertain the crowd, and not only hit one out of the park, but smash that windshield on that yugo you have parked out there in lot c (for cult). yugo , because you obviously don't have enough faith .

i won't smash your windshield on purpose, but you will then have to ARGUE with joker that it was just a coinkadink .

Reply #376

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:55:02 GMT

just to put this back under the glaring spotlight, so that DD doesn't blame me for his incapabilities .

go ahead DD, you made the claim in here. you said people are only not healed because of their unbelief .

and now you can explain how babies are born with medical maladies, sometimes lasting a lifetime.

who do you blame unbelief on that one for?

i asked you that, and you straight away did an impression on an integrity bullet train

should be one of those walk in the par... [ More ]

Reply #375

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:35:23 GMT

wrong again DD.

the entirety of Gods word was built purposefully on the back of empirical evidence , eveidenced by the fact that God went to extreme lengths to both insure that serious seeking men could not write off Gods word as just another book , and to make dead sure that people like you can't highjack it for personal gain.

God went to great lengths in the prophetic arena, so that when a man actually added that up, they couldn't deny odds wise that anyone but God could have had been th... [ More ]

Reply #374

Delta Draw — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:31:50 GMT

He does need help joker,...

...help off your leg.

The chair recognizes the sick puppy. Motion denied.

DD

ohh, I see a new post below this edit, Not reading it! la-la-la-laa,.... la-la-la- laaaa,... hey hey hey, goodbye

Reply #373

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:10:31 GMT

so joker, your not going to apologize for purposefully twisting what i said either, eh? you cannot imagine my surprise, and my ensuing disappointment .

poking your head back out, after you willingly crawled in your self dug hole, does not constitute you being in the game, joker.

in here, just as in life, you are either in it, or your not. so make up your mind, or atleast attempt a formidable stand.

you should quit your childish postulating, and make choices that lead to something that r... [ More ]

Reply #372

four4me — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 05:54:09 GMT

You love to beat a dead horse. I'm over it so to should you be, a sidewalk preacher with no affiliation to the church a self proclaimed non denominational bible thumping know it all. Why should anyone take you seriously your not an ordained minister or card caring preacher. Who reads minds clear across the country... do you also here things people are saying even thought they aren't speaking to you.

I'm not painting you at all i spent an hour or more digging through all these post put togethe... [ More ]

Reply #371

Delta Draw — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 05:28:59 GMT

I get it!

Visiondud does not believe anything from the book unless he has Empirical evidence. What he does not know is the book was NOT written to those who demand such. He is excused, but not for saying what is written is a lie. Fact is, he is an atheist. He tries to use logic to win the case for his point because there is no empirical evidence in his narrow tunnel vision to qualify. The book says and I quote a famous Son, no man has seen God . The fully-god and fully-man BS does not fit tha... [ More ]

Reply #370

joker17 — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 04:49:39 GMT

Wow ! ! !

Someone who actually thinks I'm not totally insane...lol

Reply #369

joker17 — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 04:42:29 GMT

You need serious help.....

Reply #368

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 04:27:02 GMT

anyone who operates in the world of fair, and is not tainted by something they don't like, and makes that (a fair assesment by chronology in this thread) their baromoter of truth, knows what i said was correct.

i came in here to counter joker's incessant messing with people who believe , because he runs around in here mocking God all the time.

i made the accurate statement that he was in here saying his spillage before i said stitch. you once again completely omitted that fact in your hit... [ More ]

Reply #367

jarasan — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 03:13:56 GMT

Live long and prosper! said Mr. Spock! Fade out! END. Roll credits. Copyright it

Reply #366

four4me — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:55:51 GMT

Dam you for making me do this. You'll get no apology from me your a head case get over yourself.

You started in on this topics thread on June 17, 2010, 12:29 am and posted 6 replies to the posters.

Bright and early on June 18, 2010, 1:12 am - IP Logged you got back into it. 2 more post before

I posted my 1 st post to the topic on June 18, 2010, 1:45 pm not directed at anybody your post is not above mine Coin Toss's is and my post is not a reply just me posting my thoughts.... [ More ]

Reply #365

psykomo — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:05:51 GMT

thank GOD 4 TODD

psyko try's 2 WIN D

LOTTERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LP POST!!!!!!!!helpps!!

DON't TREAD on D LP

Reply #364

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:36:49 GMT

I never said i wanted you to go away. If i wanted you to go away i say so.

I don't care why you came back. You say it was Joker and i say it's because you want to assert yourself on him

the trouble is, you tried to make the case against me, by stating i highjacked the thread, and took it off topic for my own agenda. if you measure me by that measurement, if you where a guy that plays fair, you would have noted joker was first in line on that qualification . ......then your bud DD........ [ More ]

Reply #363

psykomo — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:35:50 GMT

not 4 D win a lotto RD $$LOTTERY$$!!

GOD is a g@@D GOD RU $$READY??$$!!

LOL !!!!!!!

PSYKOMO

Reply #362

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:46:06 GMT

I'm not being combative, you are i didn't hijack this thread with my own agenda.

you know four, one place you don't ever want to go to with me, is where you purposefully lie about what i have done, or what i have said, just because you don't like what i say.

you do that, then we do have a problem. because i won't sit there and watch you do it, without highlighting why you did.

look at the beginning of this thread, and it's archive progression, and if you are a man that actually does r... [ More ]

Reply #361

visiondude — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:06:24 GMT

to incorporate a gambling term....... BINGO

i asked DD to provide real relatable proof that would prove his push easily, by illustrating exaples of where people actually have.

if it was biblical , there would be scores of them dating back to the beginning of time.

heck, even proving the inception of the prosperity gospel didn't even arrive on the worlds stage (much less than DD's assertion it has always been our 'right' .), the guy can't even qualify it with modern day examples.

th... [ More ]

Reply #360

tiggs95 — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:39:06 GMT

OOPS!!!!!........This...

Reply #359

tiggs95 — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:38:35 GMT

This....

Reply #358

Coin Toss — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:28:27 GMT

Oy vey. This thread was started on June 12th, as has been mentioned the original intent being do you blieve in prayer, and implied do you believe in praying to win the lottery?

Since then there have been how many drawings and how many lotto players here on LP alone have sent up a prayer something similar to Please let me win tonight .

As far as we know it hasn't happened. So for those who proclaim Name it and claim it Word of Faith theology (that's what it's called, WoF), where are your ja... [ More ]

Reply #357

four4me — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:46:57 GMT

There you go again putting words in my mouth. People can pray to Buddha for all i care.

I never said i wanted you to go away. If i wanted you to go away i say so.

I don't care why you came back. You say it was Joker and i say it's because you want to assert yourself on him, your beliefs mean nothing to him, check any of his older posts and you will find he sticks to his beliefs. He also doesn't need me for his defense.

I read what i want when i want I never said i didn't like thi... [ More ]

Reply #356

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:43:47 GMT

If i wanted to have this shut down i would approach Todd because it's in the rules if it's not lottery related it belongs in a blog .

go ahead, but unfortunately for your dislike of the subject matter, it is lottery related , and even more important, it is connected to the original question, because it matters who we are praying to, for things concerning the lottery.

once again, you fudge your reasoning, because the subject matter makes you uncomfortable.

it's the same methodology you e... [ More ]

Reply #355

jrosina — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:05:55 GMT

ALL arguments will be Permanently Settled!!! Four4me...I do Agree the Past can be a garbage dump that we refuse to go back and ruminate about and throw what is dead and stinking

Reply #354

four4me — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:40:48 GMT

I'm not being combative, you are i didn't hijack this thread with my own agenda. Stop living in the past what happened between us years ago is over with, move on people change with time.

I don't push religion i don't attest to know it all. You say your non denominational isn't that against the rules so to speak because Christians are supposed to be part of the flock.

Visiondude wrote: you dont think people should discuss God or politics on a forum like this, yet you regularly en... [ More ]

Reply #353

jrosina — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:05:20 GMT

DD.... Joker.....Vision..four4me....Myself...et..all

ON that Day We Shall Behold him Face to face!!...Then all arguments will be settled once and for all...Let's make sure...be very sure...that on that day we are not in the company of the spiritually blind, Idolatrous, Religion Lovers, Man Pleasing, disobedient, law-braking, Stubborn, rebellious unbelieving, Goats!!!! Be very Sure!!!

Love and Peace

Reply #352

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:53:29 GMT

you read my posts to you alright, but your not man enough to finish what you started in here DD.

read the beginning, you came at me

if i was at LP looking for an arguement , i would go create them in the countless furtile grounds of threads i could.

all i am ever going to do, at LP, or any other arena in life, is act like a man that actually has something substantive, by either completing what i start, or not running away from something that challenges me, even if i don't like it.

d... [ More ]

Reply #351

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:49:01 GMT

DD, be a real man for the 1st time in a long time, would ya?

you purposefully lied about what i said about the quote that you copy and pasted from another post. you purposefully left out what i said AFTER, and BEFORE those words, that would have really painted an accurate picture of what i said, and meant.

and then you went on to purposefully lie about my position on what true biblical prosperity is. i stated it many times, that i believe in prosperity of the believer (as God defines it pe... [ More ]

Reply #350

Delta Draw — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:35:56 GMT

most peoples idea of prayer is waaaaaay off base. prayer ISN'T asking God for something (per se) VD

Hey DÜd,

You really got the goods to redirect people to error. You said in an earlier post that prosperity doctrine (teaching for right believing) is a biblical lie . I showed the scripture to back up what the book says and you still maintain it is a lie. You re full of lies. Why would anyone follow what you say when the book says something else? A very convincing reason to question everythi... [ More ]

Reply #349

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:20:34 GMT

DD wrote................. And, BTW, Dud drove the thread to glaze his ego .

nope. wrong again.

i came out of LP retirement because i wanted to defend the truths of God, against someone who sells unattainable false hope to loads of desperate people in here.

that's always been my M.O. in here. on the lottery side of things, as well as the God side of discussion.

this place is ripe for people who teeter on the brink of desperation, willing to try anything to get that need met, including... [ More ]

Reply #348

Delta Draw — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:05:21 GMT

Dud's up!

I see you posted reply. I am not reading your recent . You just want to argue with people. Go yell at your TV.

DD

Reply #347

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:02:33 GMT

i knew you weren't man enough to step to the plate, once someone i got down to the nitty-gritty about what you were trying to sell, and then you refused to answers those really hard qualifiers.

not only couldn't you answer a simple questions about how babies are born with medical maladies, and sometimes have lifelong experiences with them, and how come thousands of Christians don't get healed ...... you went straight for the lie joker attempted to pull, high 5ing him (and accepting that He li... [ More ]

Reply #346

Delta Draw — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:42:15 GMT

The pointis the top of his head jokersan. He is delusional about debate. He cannot stay on topic and changes the focus. An old, old trick of the slippery pseudo wannabes. Look at how he talks, like he is qualified intellectually and it s all sizzle over substance. Now he wants to wag the dog and do a little back peddling again. You nailed him square and fair: kick to the head!

Nice call. He would never make it in a true debate because he couldn t change the rules to suit his style.

It s al... [ More ]

Reply #345

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:27:45 GMT

DD, what about those babies born from the womb, who have LIFELONG medical issues?

unbelief

Reply #344

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:20:28 GMT

i forgot to address this from four4me, when he stated......

But since Jesus died on the cross for all mans sins shouldn't we all be going to heaven .

no. just the ones that accept the free gift.

you can't have, what you constantly reject.

even you realize that

VISION

Reply #343

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:15:19 GMT

if i am going to put out a label that gives you a better barometer of what my beliefs align with, it would be non denominational , because i don't align myself with any church / denomination, because no organization will be standing behind me for support on the day i stand before God. i work hard at differentiating myself from that mindset.

but no, not pentecostal . too emotionally based and driven for me in particular. i love emotion , but not the kind where you place emotions above facts. f... [ More ]

Reply #342

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:23:21 GMT

not sure what to make of this post.

should i call you on some lack of reading / comprehension skills?

or should i call you on knowing what you read, understanding it, then purposefully twisting what i wrote to mean something 180degree's different than what you stated i meant ?

tell you what, i am a reasonable guy, and i will spot you the odd chance that your anger about this situation sent you into auto-tainted mode, before you even read it.

read it again joker, the sentence i wrote... [ More ]

Reply #341

four4me — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 04:35:06 GMT

My name is not John no need to put my real name on here. Will you admit to being Pentecostal. I admitted to being Catholic. My wife is Pentecostal. It doesn't wash with me because Pentecostals think they are the chosen ones. The are pushy almost to the point of being embattled never wavering to any one else's beliefs because they think the word of god belongs to them.

I'm not going after anybody I posted a post to the board you replied to those posts several times and i replied back in... [ More ]

Reply #340

joker17 — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:48:39 GMT

if i am searching for God, and i think some person is on to something tangible, i am going to do everything i can to cull info out of that opportunity, so that i can qualify God, not excuse Him away.

And that's where the root of your problem is. You just admitted it in your quote above. Why would anyone in their right mind debate you, when you just publicly admitted that you will purposely distort Tangible evidence, in order for it, to shape your beliefs. If tomorrow, Joe Schmo has the most... [ More ]

Reply #339

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:21:57 GMT

uh oh. bad news DD. i was right...

according to the gospel of wikipedia, the proseprity gospel (just exactly like you sell it) didn't even appear on the world's stage until around world war 2, where our ever trustful friend oral roberts decided to turn God into his personal ATM machine.

see, i can replicate history. actual recorded history. varifiable recorded events, that replicate a claim accurately, as when and if something really happened.

the truth is DD, your health and wealth doc... [ More ]

Reply #338

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 02:46:59 GMT

once again, you weren't truthful when you said Jesus never said He raised Himself from the dead, because you know He did. remember, if you have to purposefully lie about something, in order to change it into something you want it to be, you don't have a viable premise. unfortunately for you, the bible repeats the same premise, starting in genesis.

and no, there isn't 3 Gods . if there were 3 Gods , then you assertion against the Trinity might have some teeth.

1 God, in 3 persons. no big w... [ More ]

Reply #337

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:45:53 GMT

i know it doesn't wash with you , john.......because you are the type of person i was referring to when i made an accurate unbiased historical statement that God is provable , based on facts. (what was written, vs what has happened since what was written)

it isn't anywhere near relegated to an issue of faith , because then it becomes completely subjective to mans opinions and emotions, and NO ONE can proove God exists when there is a gazillion emotions and opinions flying around the room.... [ More ]

Reply #336

visiondude — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:01:59 GMT

DD.......ahhh no, we (as in the reading audience) would like your research books now.

i for one, cannot possibly wait till you tell us all what other sources back up your beliefs.

seems if your beliefs are legit, and especially if they mirror Gods, you would be thanking me for the opportunity to pass that info along, so that you can enlighten others, and you can further your qualification credentials.

so let's see your list of books you go to for the parallel universal truth of your bel... [ More ]

Reply #335

jrosina — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:23:39 GMT

DD, Thanks....For on that day we will have ran out of chances to get it right!!! They will be no UUpss!!

..and I have a deep fear of ALMIGHTY GOD, Mathew 24:4 And JESUS answered and said unto them Take care that no man deceive you 5: For many shall come in My name saying I AM Christan Shall deceive Many!!! again

Matthew 24:11 And Many false prophets shall rise and shall deceive many.

Matthew25:31 When the Son of Man shall come in HIS GLORY and all the Holy angels with HIM, then Shall HE... [ More ]

Reply #334

four4me — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:22:12 GMT

Visiondude ... You born again Christians are all alike just about, especially the ones who read the bible, memorize the versus and go to bible study and then preach the doctrine. Come down off your high horse stop looking through people as if they weren't there. I was born and raised a catholic don't think for one moment that the bible and the churches beliefs weren't drummed into me. To the point of being brainwashed into believing all this stuff. I have done battle with born again Christians s... [ More ]

Reply #333

visiondude — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:31:47 GMT

now we are getting to lift the veil more.

go ahead DD, tell them your cultic thinking tells you YOU are a little god right now.

they probably won't mind.

notice how DD hasn't run to distance himself from that accurate accusation?

i wonder why?

work me now DD. back later

what's tells all that needs to be told about you, is that you STILL have not provided REAL LIFE provable examples.

your lies are based in wishful thinking - not in provable life historical situations, p... [ More ]

Reply #332

visiondude — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:22:43 GMT

as if God is unable to differentiate Himself, and who He is, over the debates of men.

like men are capable of dismissing God, just because they are afraid of being narrow about who He is.

the task of that is simple, with the summation of who God is, being based on what God has proven, or said about Himself.

not mixing words, the lost in translation / king james arguement as the ultimate reason for not comig to a conclusion about God, is akin to an intellectually dishonest joke.

take... [ More ]

Reply #331

tiggs95 — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:58:01 GMT

PS...Nap time..

Reply #330

tiggs95 — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:57:35 GMT

You drove through Ky and diden't tell tiggs..Smart move on your part ridge but another prayer not answered for the tigger..Lock and loaded at all times..

Reply #329

rdgrnr — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:43:29 GMT

Tiggs? Bible? heh,heh,heh,heh,heh...

I know the area of Kentucky he lives in Rosie. Ain't none of them people got any books unless you count the Sears Catalog.

And they keep that in the outhouse fer practical purposes.

Funny thing though, they all seem to have trampolines. Morons love trampolines. Last time I drove through there, there was an army of morons jumping on trampolines.

Really something to see...

Reply #328

Delta Draw — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:25:28 GMT

1Tim3:16

You read it in English as 'God' but even in the British museum, CODEX A indicates a mark in a different ink changing an uncial. The Greek MSS.

The R.V.prints He Who , and adds in margin, 'theos' (God) rests on no sufficient evidence. The probability is that the original reading was ho ( which ), with the Syric and all the Latin Versions, to agree with the mystery, Gr.musterion (neut.).

The Greek uncial being O, some scribe added the letter s, making OC = (He Who) which he thoug... [ More ]

Reply #327

tiggs95 — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:30:28 GMT

lying lie lay loo lee laa it's all good..Others screw up on thier post but they may be your friends so they are safe..riiiiighhhttteeee..

Reply #326

tiggs95 — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:28:57 GMT

Sorry tiggs ..Yeah tiggs sees you got your post down to 400 words..That's an improvement..Still not going to read a post that big..Time is running out on tiggs so he just reads short dumb post...like ridges..

Reply #325

Delta Draw — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:17:19 GMT

DD...are you soooo sure, is there Perhaps a slight possibility that you could be wrong is it at all possible???... I am asking! We are Human and we are fallible!

No I am not sure my fallibility is the reason for error. Why? God s Word is perfect as are the words that comprise the whole. He would be fallible if He were as you say, fully man and fully God . He (GOD) is not imperfect. He (God) cannot be TEMPTED.

Think about it Rosie, why should I attribute my human fragilities to God in sayi... [ More ]

Reply #324

rdgrnr — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:13:19 GMT

It's all related tiggs.

You know what related means, don't you?

It's what most of the married couples in Kentucky are - related.

Reply #323

rdgrnr — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:02:08 GMT

He feels less responsible for his insane outbursts when he talks in the 3rd person.

To him, it's like somebody else is saying all that incoherent nonsense.

Reply #322

jrosina — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:26:47 GMT

Tiggs...get in your Bible...all who are on the verge of passing over to the other side..LoL.. should make it a point to know where they stand, with their CREATOR!!! This is very Important tiggs this is where you really bus a Big one!!!LoL