Statistically Speaking - QP's and PP's

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Todd — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:46:06 GMT

Well, it looks like this was a fun discussion, but I think it's time to wrap it up.

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joker17 — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:21:52 GMT

There is a ton of proof concerning Govt. coverup of alien activity, as opposed to your fantasy world of Gods and angels roaming around the ether punishing people for their ill behavior.

Did you fall on your head when you were young? Something is just not right with you.

Obviuosly your sheltered existence from what's really going on has failed to let you even ponder the alternative and very real possibilities of orgins of life. Your brain is stuck in mideval times, and so has your intellige... [ More ]

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four4me — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:51:39 GMT

You cant let it go you cant because of your pride your so full of it it's pathetic.

I'm getting on in years now i do remember a lot of things but i have to let some old stuff go to ingest new things sometimes.

that isn't remotely true, it's just lost on your anti agenda

I won't go there because i know the road is a dead end the difference between you and me is i know where i stand and you think you know where you stand and we are standing in different places.... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:32:50 GMT

then read it with duct tape over your typing fingers, because i will do what the situation calls for it (every time), including calling you out for blaming me, when it wasn't my fault

You don't contribute any lottery related information other than fault people who try any means possible to win

that isn't remotely true, it's just lost on your anti agenda

you did read where i wrote i wished systems DID succeed.

how come you didn't tell the board i said that previously?

don't t... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:10:37 GMT

at shady oaks mental institution, in a contest between you and me, you would win patient of the month 9 out of the 12 months the contest ran with that we are a hybrid of aliens , and our govt is in cahoots with the aliens joker spillages.

the people that won the other 3 months were actually ON mind altering drugs, so they have an excuse

funny how no one else commented to you about those 2 gems

you not only made yourself look like a candidate , you inadvertantly caught all the others in... [ More ]

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four4me — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:09:29 GMT

I told you before I'll read what i want and respond when i want i haven't spent all these years here doing nothing... i have contributed a lot of lottery related information. You don't contribute any lottery related information other than fault people who try any means possible to win.

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:47:21 GMT

you can't blame me for squat, four.

your just miffed whenever i take a stand on this issue, and now your trying to blame me because you cannot control your angst about this either.

remember four, you didn't have to say anything to me in the first place, but you did.

you did because your 'anti' driven, not people or scenario driven

you had no right saying anything to me, with at minimum at LEAST busting jokers chops first.

something you STILL haven't done, and something you STILL... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:22:46 GMT

what's so crazy about God speaking something into existence?

you equate something no man can do, with Gods purported 'inabilities'

if He is God, that would be well within the scope of His capabilities.

your whole problem about God in your search is when it comes to issues of Gods possible authority over your life, and that's where you put the intellectual brakes on.

that's where every body that has a problem with the issue throws out the boat anchor AND slams on the brakes

once yo... [ More ]

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four4me — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:45:12 GMT

No i blame you because one you know joker will defy anything to do with your meanderings.

I thought you were more intelligent than to be drawn into it.

Others with the same views as joker would be drawn in.

You keep saying joker started this well it takes two to tangle. now more people

Keep bringing up the past my views about it haven't changed neither have yours.

You have no proof for me or anyone else either.

You being the wise old granny you act like ought to be able to fini... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:39:42 GMT

that's a matter of opinion.

i guess your used to walking all over Christians, and not allowing the scrutiny of something you proffer as it works .

you poor thing

your so abused

no heart to heart with joker?

quit your whining too.

you sure gave your share

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:34:51 GMT

quit your whining four.

you purely come at me over the Christ issue.

TOO BAD.

when you can do things via an equal standard, then you can have a basis FOR your whatever.

go somewhere else.

no one is holding a cardboard cutout of a gun to your head making you read anything.

joker started all this, and you didn't say squat to him

not a word to tech either, and both of those 2 are doing the exact same thing.

yours is anti-Jesus driven, and has zip to do with your feighned eth... [ More ]

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joker17 — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:24:56 GMT

You're delusional. Please get some help.

The only thing you proved to me when I asked you about the light traveling, is that you are crazy.

Only people with serious mental problems claim they know what God has done and will do.

Again....please get some help. At least try to find some medication for your illness.

So sad.....

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truecritic — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:22:43 GMT

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a rule about obnoxious behavior that one member has been guilty of since he got involved, on topic or off topic. 90% of this thread would be deleted if there was.

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:17:21 GMT

I've ran circles around you.

that's actually a true statement. one of the few you have ever made.

you ran AROUND me in circles all right, spraying the board with your inabilitites and unwillingness.

go ahead and high five yourself.

this won't be the last time you will ring the bell, and be the FIRST to leave the ring.

it's what you always do........scream and yell 'foul', then when someone hands you mr microphone, you get a severe case of stage fright.

you can't even qualify yo... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:05:38 GMT

nope. your no history major . your not even in the ballpark of what if's

it started like this ....

mary responded to Gods call for her to birth the savior, and she worshipped Him pre AND post birth.

technically speaking, she was the first Christian (which means follower of Christ).

then most likely in decscending order.......joesph, the wise men, etc etc etc.

Jesus even stated to his disciples........you only know me, when you follow me.

there were probably HUNDREDS if not th... [ More ]

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truecritic — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:54:47 GMT

Hmmm...I think it is real, I hear it too!

Shucks, rdgrnr, I forgot about your dial-up and videos! This is a video of Classic Twilight Zone TV Show Intro. It fully compliments what joker17 posted.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/217100/1750998

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:45:00 GMT

i didn't say they haven't crept back in over the centuries, i just stated a fact that they were squashed and dealt with as they arose in the early inception of CHRISTIANITY

historical out of the gate CHRISTIANITY held no creedance for pagan influence , because it wasn't allowed to infiltrate and influence then.

it does now though. it flourishes unchecked mostly

to the tune of hundreds of subsects

hence your assertion that pagan influences had a hand in shaping Christianity .

that... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:33:54 GMT

part 1.....

read what i wrote again tech.

i stated it was a reference to going from what it was originally created for (spiritual eternal life) to the death of it's original intent.

i didn't say the soul died. it changes definition based on Gods original design, vs mans choice to experience that eternally

part 2....

oh no, i have one of those fancy red letter edition bibles that let's me know exactly what Jesus said.

you are going to have to distrust all of history in your... [ More ]

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four4me — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:29:03 GMT

Once again you lead me down that path..... you are criticizing people for their beliefs and they are criticizing you for your beliefs.

Once again this is a not a religious forum it's a lottery web site. Debating whether god exits or not isn't about the lottery. And is a never ending subject for all involved. As a paid member here i have every right to accept or appose anybodies posts about subjects unrelated to the lottery. I am not defending you joker or anybody else about this and as i... [ More ]

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joker17 — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:18:26 GMT

You need to stock up on padded material and glue them to your walls so you can get used to them when they haul you off to the nearest institution. I'll even throw in the straight jacket.

Just do me a favor and don't profess this crap to the other patients because I have a feeling the other patients will think your nuttier than they are...

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:12:37 GMT

we have one guy saying Christ had nothing to do with Christianity...

....and another one saying we are a DNA hybrid of aliens, and our govt has been in cahoots with aliens

nice

good thing i am eating steak during this ferris wheel of history lessons

i should probably include some dramamine in my diet tonight with these two manufacturers of wishful thinking

there is still light outside here in calif, maybe i should have my wife go outside and create a crop circle with a pai... [ More ]

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joker17 — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:07:19 GMT

It's like talking to a brick wall, however, I shouldn't put a brick wall down like that. I'd probably get more intelligent responses from a brick wall than this puppet.

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LotteryTechInc — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:02:19 GMT

JOKER17

When someone is brainwashed by religion this is how they behave I should know I USE too be like him years ago until one day I decided too find out the truth for myself

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:01:28 GMT

Keep mentioning the word Fact and the Bible in the same sentence. That's an oxymoron, but you wouldn't know what a fact is if it bit you on the nose.

you forgot to include the word historical when i am doing the tie in with bible and fact .

historical proof trumps mans opinions / feelings about a subject matter everytime...

....on ANY level

you should try it, it's a bullet train TO truth, instead of that meandering 6 lane freeway your driving on

historians replicate history

ag... [ More ]

Reply #1,137

LotteryTechInc — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:00:31 GMT

The GOD of isreal never told paul or anyone else too start christianity,never told the jews they had too convert too it either never told anyone too write another holy book there is NO mention of the new testmant anywhere in the torah.Until you can prove otherwise your just another christian living in denial of the real truth.

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joker17 — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:59:48 GMT

You presented garbage, not proof. Claiming you know for a fact that God instantly made light to travel those vast distances is just dumb and you know it. You call that proof? Nothing to back it up except for your delusions.

When you get a clue, I'll discuss it with you. Until then, stop wasting my time and insulting my intelligence.

I've ran circles around you. You are a simpleton and a moron.

Reply #1,135

visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:53:15 GMT

you asked me to prove something, and i brought my proof front and center.

several pages worth i stayed the course and never once wussed out.

i call you on your proof to prove it once, and you run

you passed yourself off as such an expert in the matter, and now you are stuttering. why is that?

like i said several times now............ your nothing but a trouble causing sprayer , who when pressed can't handle what you start

don't let the garabge can hit you on the way out the... [ More ]

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LotteryTechInc — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:47:35 GMT

Christianty existed because of Christ. even stack understands that (WRONG it existed because of PAUL jesus never started your religion just because some one starts a movment about him doesn't automatically make him the ambassador he never endorsed your religion in fact there is no mention of it in the Torah.)

once the first person made the decision to follow Jesus Christ by rightfully declaring Him as Lord.......THAT'S when Christianity started. (A person declaring something doesn't mean... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:40:33 GMT

One of the major reasons Government is hiding the fact the we've been in cahoots with aliens for a long long time, is that if knowledge of Aliens is ever made public, Christians will have to now explain a lot of things.

anda to counteract that rediculousness.

ok, everyone can thank me now for staying the course, so joker can come full circle about what he really believes

he probably believes clay aiken had something to do with 911

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LotteryTechInc — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:33:12 GMT

any crossection attempt at infusing pagan influences into Christian practice / doctrine was systematically dealt with by the discilples........and squashed to maintain congruency

(wrong sir the pagan influences still exist today remember catholacism is one of the oldest forms of christianity it's full of pagan beliefs nothing was completely squashed christians still worship on sunday which I pointed out IS NOT biblical show me scripture where it is?? you can't because the sabaath is saturday... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:31:24 GMT

If christianity didn't exist when jesus was alive then common sense should tell you he had nothing to do with the religion any bible scholar will tell you christianity didn't exist when he did

Christianty existed because of Christ. even stack understands that

stack, i know you are reading this. would you like to help tech with this part of history?

once the first person made the decision to follow Jesus Christ by rightfully declaring Him as Lord.......THAT'S when Christianity started.... [ More ]

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LotteryTechInc — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:20:14 GMT

the wages of sin is death

........ death meaning spiritual death, the end of an eternity WITH God, not the ceasement of the soul.

(WRONG the spirit cannot die it's immortal and not made of flesh only the body dies because it's mortal and made of flesh,there is no such thing as spiritual death god is a spirit can he die?? NO he cannot and since when did an eternity end??? if it ends then it's not an eternity do you even know what the word means?? an eternity goes on forever and does not st... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:14:09 GMT

Christianity has a lot of pagan beliefs and practices because they weren't able too convert anymore jews so the only people left were pagans but too help sweeten the deal they allowed them too bring a lot of there pagan rituals,ceremonies and beliefs into christianity.

the ONLY tiny microcasm of truth in that statement is the accounting of the jews who still believed it was up to them to make themselves righteous thru their own works, and brought that mentality with them into their new relati... [ More ]

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joker17 — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:12:05 GMT

You know what? You're not even worth the trouble to me anymore. It's a total waste of time and energy on my part to debate a brainwashed person like you.

Stay in la la land if you want. Who cares?

Keep mentioning the word Fact and the Bible in the same sentence. That's an oxymoron, but you wouldn't know what a fact is if it bit you on the nose.

Have a good life. I'm through wasting time arguing with an idiot.

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LotteryTechInc — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:08:54 GMT

If christianity didn't exist when jesus was alive then common sense should tell you he had nothing to do with the religion any bible scholar will tell you christianity didn't exist when he did nor did the new testmant so I have no idea what your driving at denial of what is fact is very typical of religous folks who insist that jesus and christianity somehow have something in common when they don't.He never preached from christian doctrine and he never told christians too go out and spread any g... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:06:04 GMT

You wanted me to make your ridiculous bet for you that nobody in their right mind would make. Are so stupid that you don't understand when players purchase lottery tickets they are betting against the lottery?

quit feigning reading comprehension problems.

you know i said i would be willing to purchase my own QP's and put them up against your whatever you think you have, but don't.

and, you know i stated that because i am sure of my position (by calling you on your rediculousness), tha... [ More ]

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visiondude — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:45:08 GMT

i specifically stated i only commented on the horus character in order to save space, and you forgot i handed you another engraved golden invitation to do what you started / inferred with the vid you threw up here.

i told you in my response i would be willing to go the distance with you on this issue, on ALL the other pretenders , but once again you pull another joker and hit and run.

all you do is throw up something in hopes that the person you are throwing' it at can't counter it.

on... [ More ]

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visiondude — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:16:00 GMT

JESUS was a jew not a christian he had no ties too christianity none whatsoever

the religion didn't even exist when he was alive he never preached christian doctrine

i realize these are two seperated and extracted phrases out of the entirety of what he did say, but how do you even begin to debate someone who makes a completely truth - ejecting statement(s) like that?

at some point an eventuality happens in a debate, where each person involved demonstrates whether or not they pick int... [ More ]

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visiondude — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:23:00 GMT

the wages of sin is death

........ death meaning spiritual death, the end of an eternity WITH God, not the ceasement of the soul.

at that time, man's soul will cease to be what it was created for, and that was to spend eternity WITH God

Jesus didn't personally pen scripture , but He didn't have to in order for it to pass the trustworthyness test.

it is an eyewitness accounting of WHAT He said, by 4 differant individuals who lived WITH Him, and those 4 accountings are completely cong... [ More ]

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LotteryTechInc — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:15:04 GMT

JESUS was a jew not a christian he had no ties too christianity none whatsoever the religion didn't even exist when he was alive he never preached christian doctrine because the new testament came hundreds of years (maybe more) after he was gone so he had no knowledge of it.If someone wants too know about jesus study judaism christianity has a very biased view on the subject and cannot be trusted just like if you wanted too know about joseph smith you would go too the mormon faith not muslim so... [ More ]

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visiondude — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:10:15 GMT

(1) nope four, i couldn't .

you have joker to thank for turning this thread from SP's vs QP s into challenging me on proving what I believe, so i had to bust out the comparison aspects.

if you don't like it (as you always seem to have a problem with anything related to talking about Christ ), then you can dilly dally elsewhere at LP

(2) actually, i am not defending Christ against the likes of joker or you.

i already know you guys have your feet in cement, and that's fine with me... [ More ]

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LotteryTechInc — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:04:44 GMT

i like to take my cues from the only varifiable source of truth (over an emotional opinion ) via the one that CREATED those parameters, and that's Jesus Christ

which side of christianity is right??? is it eternity in hell or destroyed in hell??? according too scripture it says the wages of sin is death not eternal suffering by fire and the soul that sinneth shall surely die.Death means the END so apparently the many christians that say eternal suffering by fire are WRONG!!! and don't for... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:57:52 GMT

Sorry for taking over your thread and arguing with Visionquest, but you have to understand that I tried to unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another a dimension, a dimension of sight and sound, and moving into a land of both shadow and substance. And this dimension is as vast as space, and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow. It lies between the pit of man's fears, and the summit of his knowledge.

There is a fifth dimension beyond... [ More ]

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visiondude — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:48:55 GMT

i like to take my cues from the only varifiable source of truth (over an emotional opinion ) via the one that CREATED those parameters, and that's Jesus Christ.

He had alot to say about it, and was specific about it being real, and not an allegory .

being honest, i think it's a bit extreme myself.

the thought of that kind of punishment for eternity without ever a chance to be pardoned from it, but then again i am OBVIOUSLY not God , and i do not fully comprehend the depths of sin... [ More ]

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rdgrnr — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:34:35 GMT

I keep hearing the theme song from The Twilight Zone while I'm reading your posts.

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LotteryTechInc — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:49:39 GMT

Another problem with religion is that the followers don't totally agree on what they call absolute truth,some say the soul will burn while others say it will be destroyed so who is right

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joker17 — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:03:04 GMT

Looks interesting. Just skimmed over it. 60,000 years ago in Africa, huh?.....Don't tell that to Vision because the universe is only 6,000 years old......

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four4me — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:38:23 GMT

Did you ever see this documentary by Spencer Wells The Journey of Man'

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/12/1212_021213_journeyofman.html

This guy has through DNA sequencing shown that we all derived from one tribe.

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joker17 — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:26:12 GMT

I can't say for sure, but based on the many variations of beliefs out there, it depends who you speak with. I've read a few versions, but the major ones based on my experience are as follows. One group believes that after you die, your spirit won't leave your body until the end of the world, meaning your soul is still in the casket until the judgement. The other group believes that upon one's passing, the spirit is instantly up in the spirit world, and they can't roam around on Earth.

I've ne... [ More ]

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LotteryTechInc — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:55:00 GMT

JOKER17

Something that I've noticed that really amazes me is that religious folks beleive in Angels and Demons but if you ask them if they believe in Ghosts and Aliens the answer is NO why not??? what's the difference?? we have more credible witnesses for ghosts and ufo's then we do for angels and demons personally I don't believe in any of them until I SEE it for myself but I don't discount what others may have seen.But if your gonna believe in one then by default you gotta beleive in t... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:40:30 GMT

I suggest everyone sit in a dark quiet room and meditate. You'll hear the universe talk to you. The universal and spiritual intelligence will reveal many things. Once you practice enough, you'll be one with the universe. Distance will be an illusion, the outside noise wil be gone, and the wisdom of the energy all around you will engulf your very being.

I can hear God, and God can hear me. I don't need anyone to play mediator.

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joker17 — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:26:00 GMT

97% of Christians don't even realize how much Pagan influence there is. They'll never hear it preached on Sundays at their local church. And since they never go outside their comfort zone, they'll never be fully educated. They don't want to be educated because that will jeopardize everything they been taught, and their comfort zone will be comprimised.

One of the major reasons Government is hiding the fact the we've been in cahoots with aliens for a long long time, is that if knowledge of Ali... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:06:52 GMT

He's not MIA. He's actually been very busy. I understand that you might think that would be evidenced by millions of people eating well on a few fish and some bread instead of starving, but open your eyes and look for the other signs of his divine and almighty presence. What about the hundreds of people who have won lottery jackpots? We know it was his handiwork because many of those people thanked him. What about the thousands who have gotten cancer and not died like the vast majority who had i... [ More ]

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KY Floyd — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:41:06 GMT

You should try reading the last line again.

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Stack47 — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:15:39 GMT

Joker said: Your review of the video clearly demonstrates that you didn't quite grasp the message it was making.

There hasn't been very much VD has grasped in the entire thread and I doubt there is a way to make him understand.

No amount of documents, vids, or commentary will make you understand that there is a real world outside of your comfort zone, the Bible. You're obviously very comfortable there, and that's where this is gonna end.

The same can be said about his $1 QP comfort z... [ More ]

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LotteryTechInc — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:05:59 GMT

JOKER17

I don't know if anyone is aware of this but wosrhipping on Sunday is not biblical it originated from paganism the worhsipping of a Sun GOD Sunday is the day of the Sun it has nothing to do with the jewish sabaath which is Saturday.Christianity has a lot of pagan beliefs and practices because they weren't able too convert anymore jews so the only people left were pagans but too help sweeten the deal they allowed them too bring a lot of there pagan rituals,ceremonies and beliefs in... [ More ]

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Stack47 — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:25:03 GMT

remember how lame that excuse was that i need to purchase QP's in order for them to count ? (EXCUSE #1) that was lame, but it got lamer

The topic is about the FACTS from the Powerball website not some mindless delusion you invented.

when i challenged you with 2 more angles .......that of buying those QP's, and if YOU LOSE, you could reimburse me......and you were silent. (EXCUSE #2)

You wanted me to make your ridiculous bet for you that nobody in their right mind would make. Are so s... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:01:43 GMT

You're stuck on Horus, as If the video is about Horus only.

The video explains all the aspects of religion's roots involving the sun, and how the zodiac sign has influenced it. I think you're missing the point of the video. I'm not gonna sit here and tear apart the video and explain the different parts. The video is easy to understand if you can breifly set aside your biases. There is actually a second and final third part to that vid which beautifully rounds everything out.

No amount of d... [ More ]

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four4me — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:39:41 GMT

You kill me Dude couldn't you just say there were many false gods throughout history.

You don't have to defend Christ the one who's bible is the most widely used on the planet.

You cant make or have to prove anything to anybody, people come to Christ by their OWN choosing or not.

You've been hanging around with the kiddies to long your social skills show it, spend more time talking with people your own age. Working with kids is one thing but adapting their mannerisms is another.... [ More ]

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visiondude — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:57:29 GMT

i watched thw whole thing, and....

the narrator even says something about even if these attributes aren't true, still

WHAT?

it's perfectly acceptable to lie about history, or play ballpark theology when assertaining whether or not someone claiming to be god is or not?

eternal life deserves more than a ballpark guess , and should ONLY be based on historical fact

this is a great example of fabricating history , lying about it even, so long as Christ doesn't get what He has coming... [ More ]

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visiondude — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:41:03 GMT

joker, i said i would, and i will later tonight.

i needed to clean up after some people before i could devote the time it will take on the zeitgeist issue

VISION

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visiondude — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:33:07 GMT

i go hunting down people who believe the opposite of what i do.

your a disgusting human being.

i never said those exact words, and you either took what said and chopped it up into making it look like that's what i said, or extracted it out of context.

i don't do that. never have. never will, and there is no way i ever contextually said that.

you are one twisted dude.

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anyone that saliv... [ More ]

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Coin Toss — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:17:58 GMT

Faith is the belief in things unseen.

Eternity is a real long time to have been wrong, and that's a fact, Jack!

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A few pages back (sorry, I'm not going to dig through 74 pages or even ten) someone said the Bible doesn't warn against gambling.

It does warn against avarice and idolatry, and the way some people approach gambling it's definitley idolatry (they live for nothing else).

They cast lots for His robe....

As a dog ret... [ More ]

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visiondude — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:17:42 GMT

ststill just a little miffed you couldn't produce, and still projecting blame on me?

that's laughable.

remember how lame that excuse was that i need to purchase QP's in order for them to count ? (EXCUSE #1)

that was lame, but it got lamer ...

when i challenged you with 2 more angles .......that of buying those QP's, and if YOU LOSE, you could reimburse me......and you were silent. (EXCUSE #2)

and then i told you that i would pull 46 combo's off the top of my head to put against y... [ More ]

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visiondude — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:54:48 GMT

unlucky for your wishful thinking it wouldn't work like that, it OBVIOUSLY does, because faith is built upon facts.

true faith can only be built upon a foundation OF fact(s)

whereas the land you currently reside in has this unethical order....... faith IN wishful thinking

it takes a whole lot MORE faith in what YOU believe, than what i do

i include history

you exclude history

that's factual

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LotteryTechInc — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:55:46 GMT

Recorded History does not support Faith only Facts

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Stack47 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:53:43 GMT

i am you know how i am? because i refuse to allow people like you to either mock God unchallenged,

Saying that Islam is currently the fastest growing religion on Earth is not mocking anyone's belief in a supreme being.

or to bully Christians into silence, attempting to stealing their voice in the opinion vs opinion arena of life.

When did the over 30,000 different denominations and sects of Christianity elect you a spokesmen?

door mat Christianity isn't biblical , in that at time... [ More ]

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Delta Draw — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:51:17 GMT

i go hunting down people who believe the opposite of what i do.

Oh so it s windmills you want? You are wrong, Dulcinea . The book needs no defense any more than how someone plays a game. What needs defending are personal beliefs like luck or that science cannot prove God, or that you are meant to win. Truths need no defense even if nobody adheres to them. Gravity is a truth, try to defy it!

The man of the five senses cannot know God or understand his word, His written revelation . God is

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joker17 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 05:25:39 GMT

I try to stay open minded. If I said God didn't exist based on the scientific evidence I've aquired over the many years, I'd be just as bad as those who claim to have a monopoly on truth based on religion.......So what I say is that I don't know. I don't have a problem saying that. It's nothing to be ashamed of. I DON'T KNOW!

Hopefully God does exist, but if he does, I would have a field day asking him pertinent questions for 38 days straight.

But you're right at the end. Nothing bad shoul... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 05:08:47 GMT

in the meantime, you can apologize for being a selfish human being for having dragged this thread away from it's original intent.

OK, you got a deal. I appologize for my rash behaviour.

currently, your a relationship possibility killer

what a job description to possess

No I'm not. If indeed there is a God, he's ominpotent enough to realize the situation with me and handle me accordingly. He may even praise me for seeking what the truth is, as opposed to following the status quo.... [ More ]

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visiondude — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:47:13 GMT

i will watch the whole thing tomorrow and give it's honest review tomorrow.

in the meantime, you can apologize for being a selfish human being for having dragged this thread away from it's original intent.

you know, because you started out of the gate in a 'respectful manner', only asking 'a question'

truecritic isn't man enough to take you to task for causing this ensuing mess...

......SO I WILL

i got to go to bed. but before i fall asleep, i will make sure... [ More ]

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lesonook — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:42:14 GMT

hmmmmm hate to say this but there is no such person or being as a god if there was there would be no deasth wars violence or anything bad going on my my lesonook

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visiondude — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:35:48 GMT

your just mad that you couldn't uphold your end of the SP vs QP debate, once you opened your mouth about it.

you fell in the disrespectful category by self choice

i 'demanded proof' because that's exactly what the thread was about . ------- proof.

you sure didn't provide any, and i know you fiddle faddle a system .

you didn't because you can't prove squat, and you blame me for your inabilities? that's an ongoing joke

true history isn't junk , and this time accurately replicated tr... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:20:46 GMT

You see what I mean? You don't watch the videos. Watch this one and you'll have your answer about plagiarism.

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visiondude — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:13:51 GMT

so then, where are these plagairistic individuals you forgot to produce? if these people were so significant in history, we would know about them .

funny how all these imaginary pretenders to the faith are MIA, and you CANNOT produce them

that's an intellectually rediculous excuse

and the bible has NEVER lost it's original intent and form, despite it's many translations .

that's another intellectually lame excuse.

i just demonstrated that thru the fulfillment of prophecy, b... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:38:36 GMT

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Quote: Originally posted by visiondude on August 20, 2010 along So far, all you and Vision have produced is either fairytale stories from the Bible as proof

like i reminded you, it's a prerecorded history book, whether you believe it is a book of fables or not, and one thing even you can't do is dream up ENOUIGH of an excuse to make it not a historical docum... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:37:09 GMT

I thought I already did. See.....you don't read what I write. I'll go look for it and post the link. It's only a page or two before this one....geeesh...

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visiondude — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:30:28 GMT

i noticed you purposefully AVOIDED the question i asked you about the bible being an historical document?

you wouldn't be afraid of HONESTLY answering that question, would you.

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joker17 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:23:20 GMT

You've got some balls Vision. You make it sound as a matter of fact. Moses said this and Moses said that, so it makes it true. Again, more old scribblings. You just don't get it do you?

Can you even answer a question using your own words? And If you do use your own words, try to make it sound realistic at least...lol Don't tell me God told you so....Give me that much respect. C'mon....

Use the brain God gave you. I'm using it, why can't you? Ask questions instead of answering questions you... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:15:57 GMT

yep, because He told me how he accomplished that.

Now i've heard of everything.....lol

When is the movie coming out?

God spoke to me will be the title.

Can I get some of what you're smoking?...is it even legal

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visiondude — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:11:43 GMT

Really? And how the heck do you know what God did? Wow....You are good.

yep, because He told me how he accomplished that. told you too, but your arrogance shucked it out your revolving back door.

how He told me was thru a man called moses, who had a personal relationship with God, whereby God entrusted many of these gems to moses, so that he could pass them onto guys like me, so that when UNBELIEVERS LIKE you yell how do YOU know , and i could answer them .

moses didn't witness the act... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:11:00 GMT

I arduously hunt believers?.....ha ha ha ha...

All I did was ask a simple question. That's hunting believers and trapping them or whatever you decipher?...........lol

Yup, On my days off, I scour the net looking for unsuspecting believers to argue with. Once I find those scoundrels, I pounce on them and use smoke screen tactics and become biligerent.

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joker17 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:03:55 GMT

Joker?.....You got the wrong guy. You quoted treucritic when writing the above quote. Get with it man.

Who are you talking to? Get with the program...lol

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visiondude — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 02:44:58 GMT

ooooo, i check in, and joker resorts back to the bomb and spray method.

why? because joker doesn't have enough in the tank to do the one thing at a time fair version of a debate

weak positioned people play the game this way.

you would think for an unbeliever he would not be so psychotic about disproving something that supposedly means nothing to him.

he ardously hunts believers, that's not searching behavior

oh he will tell you he is searching for answers , but that's a lie becau... [ More ]

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truecritic — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:59:33 GMT

After some discussion in your thread, here's is what I think about your question.

I think your math as you stated it, is correct. QPs are defined by the Lottery Commission. They are the tickets you purchase which are printed quick pick or similar language. However, the lottery doesn't track SPs. They only define SPs as anything other than a QP. That is where the major difference of opinion comes up. If someone plays dreams or license plates, it is based on some random event. It isn't a QP. Bu... [ More ]

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joker17 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:03:33 GMT

Eddie Rabbitt invented the laser beam.

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jarasan — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:47:23 GMT

What moves at approximately 372,524 miles per second?

P.S. There are laser beams capable of splitting hairs and hares.

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joker17 — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:23:17 GMT

I'll even go one step further. Let's say God di make light instantly in the beginning. Just for argument's sake I'll agree with you, even though I don't ,but just for argument's sake.

Why would he do that? That again makes no sense whatsover. These arguments are just rediculous in nature.

So let me get this straight. Here I go repeating myself again. God gives us brains to think, rationalize, scrutinize, analyze, invent, solve complex problems. Now....God makes light travel instantly. Year... [ More ]

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joker17 — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:59:03 GMT

This post clearly shows you really don't read what others write. I can't speak for True or Stack, but If you read what they wrote, they are basically saying the same things I'm saying. Maybe that's why they aren't addressing me.

Surely True was telling all of us to stop this from going any further, and I agree. All I wanted at the beginning was for you to practice what you preach. You demanded proof, and I demanded proof.

You tried answering my question by claiming you know that God made l... [ More ]

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joker17 — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:44:55 GMT

What these people fail to realize is that none of this makes any sense at all. You brought up a great point, and I could easily bring up another 1500 ones just like the one you pointed out. For the life of me, I just can't understand how these people can't see this. It boggles my mind.

The children dying prematurely every single day, 22,000 plus everyday is just one of a myriad of examples. I don't give a hoot how well you know the Bible. I don't care If you know the Bible backwards by heart.... [ More ]

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joker17 — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:25:36 GMT

The Bible's stories have been interpreted and changed more times than Tammy Faye Baker's hairdo.

The Bible may be an historical document, but that doesn't make it true. The Quaran is a historical document also, that doesn't make it true. And so are the thousands of other religious documents written in the past, and that also doesn't make them true. You my friend, need serious help.

The story of Jesus and his activities is plagiarism. Many religions before and... [ More ]

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joker17 — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:14:53 GMT

oh, and light does travel at that speed now, when someone measures it now

when God first created light (and all the other peripheral entities surrounding your example )..... it's travel (as you put it) was instantaneous.

that's a whole lot more mindblowing than 186,000 miles per sec

see how true science works

Really? And how the heck do you know what God did? Wow....You are good. You know what God does, thinks, and will do?

You need to put pads, really thick pads on all of t... [ More ]

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visiondude — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:12:08 GMT

before i head out the door truecritic, maybe you and stack can team up and explain to the board why the BOTH OF YOU didn't go after joker, since joker was the one that started us going down this road, and joker was a DISRESPECTFUL jerk in the commision thereof.

know why you go after me instead of him?

because you 2 won't show up on the integrity radar screen anytime soon.

you pick people, opinions and things you don't like over the actual truth in life.

if either of you 2 WERE men of... [ More ]

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joker17 — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:06:27 GMT

Yeah, you harp on irrelevant facts that have nothing to do with the question. Pathetic if you ask me.

Can't answer the question because your indoctrination never allowed it Simple question you can't answer.

Stay brainwashed...who cares...

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truecritic — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:54:07 GMT

notice how when someone asked, i was at least willing to go the distance ?

Willing? You pushed until you became totally obnoxious.

Nobody cares if you go the distance. Nobody asked you to. Not one person posted that they are thankful that you saved them from doing self-picks. I have given you more than one opportunity to quietly depart and you are too dumb to accept.

You coming here and DEMANDING people do workout tests between QPs and SPs. Prove your system 8 years and no proof - bla... [ More ]

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visiondude — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:47:27 GMT

work time.

i have to switch gears and remind my lessons that the DD's of the world are out there

i will be back tonight to handle your latest felonious accusations

handling the hard questions isn't hard. it just takes time and effort

something only the stack's and truecritics of the world seem to suffer from

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visiondude — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:43:27 GMT

and if VD is a true representative of Christianity, it's easy to understand why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world

i am

you know how i am? because i refuse to allow people like you to either mock God unchallenged, or to bully Christians into silence, attempting to stealing their voice in the opinion vs opinion arena of life.

door mat Christianity isn't biblical , in that at times you let things slide, while other times you fight for what's right so people like you can't... [ More ]

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LotteryTechInc — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:32:44 GMT

so extracting a child out of this world, into an enviorment that is devoid of the garbage this world has to offer comparison wise is unjust ? get a clue. God if anything is doing them a monumental favor by saving them OUT of a lifetime of only what He knew they would face

Oh my goodness I just couldn't resist responding too this one so where do I start??? according too religion there was a war going on in the heavenly realm which is why the wicked one is here on earth so I guess it isn't... [ More ]

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visiondude — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:29:30 GMT

anyone see DD today after his greatest revelation to date last night?

you know that's as low as a human being can go in societal measurements, when you have to segregate those people from the rest of the criminal population in prison.

when criminals think you ARE heinous, your REALLY heinous

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Stack47 — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:27:52 GMT

I won't engage in some long drawn out religious argument with you but I have to tell you that sounds like one of the most foolish explanations I ever heard.

and if VD is a true representative of Christianity, it's easy to understand why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.

That's not proof. All these 6 thousand years (according to you), and that is the best you can come up with?

That's the same type of proof VD used with LP's RNG to create 46 combos so he could have a... [ More ]