Number of odd combinations in a 5/39 game

Reply #26

GiveFive — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 12:48:25 GMT

I was afraid that it could or would take a lot of work! If it's just too much work, then please dont bother with it.

You're exactly correct as to what I'm looking for.

The last line in your example has six numbers.... I'm only looking for 5. For instance 1, 3, 6, 12, 26 would be 2-3 odd/even distribution and a 4-1-0 pattern.

There are a total of 21 different patterns. They are: 1-2-2, 2-1-2, 2-2-1, 1-1-3, 1-3-1, 3-1-1, 0-2-3, 0-3-2,

2-0-3, 2-3-0, 3-0-2, 3-2-0, 0-1-4, 0-4-1, 1-0-4, 1... [ More ]

Reply #25

garyo1954 — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 02:07:54 GMT

winsum, most Excellent !

Thank You

Reply #24

garyo1954 — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:37:55 GMT

Tall order.

I did the rewrite to find the 5-0, 4-1, 3-2, 2-3, 1-4, and 0-5, but never considered before reading this post you were looking for patterns as well.

I am assuming you want to know in every combination of even and odd, what is the breakdown pattern in your designated sets? Right?

Something like....in each even/odd combination, what is the distribution of the sets 1-13, 14-26, and 27-39?

And what is the pattern of this distribution?

EXAMPLES:

2, 16, 28, 32, 34 wo... [ More ]

Reply #23

GiveFive — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:23:59 GMT

Hi Garyo1954,

Thank you so much for your post.

I sent you a PM, but I'm not sure I communicated to you what else I'd like to know. So...here's an example, of what I'm looking for based upon a 5/36 game. I'm looking for the same thing, except I'd like it for a 5/39 game.

The Total # Combos in a 1- 2-2, 2-1-2, or 2-2-1 Group distribution is 52,272

# 3odd/2even combos = 16,956

# 2odd/3even combos = 16,956

# 4odd/1even combo's = 7,830

# 1odd/4even combo's = 7,380

# 5odd/0even... [ More ]

Reply #22

garyo1954 — Sat, 16 Oct 2010 00:41:21 GMT

Of the 575,757 total combinations, here is the breakdown:

Total even (by position): 268413 288933 287793 288933 268413 Total Even: 1402485

Total odd (by position): 307344 286824 287964 286824 307344 Total Odd: 1476300

Difference -38931 2109 -171 2109 -38931

PCT EVEN 46.61% 50.18% 49.98% 50.18% 46.61%

PCT ODD 53.38% 49.81% 50.01% 49.81% 53.38%

5 Even/0 Odd: 11628

4 Even/1 Odd: 77520

3 Even/2 Odd: 184110

2 Even/3 Odd: 194940

1 Even/4 Odd: 92055

0 Even/5 Odd: 15504

Reply #21

dr san — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 22:43:46 GMT

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Reply #20

GiveFive — Tue, 05 Oct 2010 01:37:17 GMT

Winsome,

ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!!!!! Thanks so much! I've downloaded your spreadsheet, and now hopefully I can put it to real good use!! You'll be the first to know if I win a JP, and I guarantee you, you wont be sorry if I do!!!! GiveFive

Reply #19

winsumloosesum — Mon, 04 Oct 2010 21:34:10 GMT

Updated the Excel file to include 6/49 Group combinations and group matrix.

Here is the download link:

http://www.box.net/shared/2960m7ydgn

Reply #18

winsumloosesum — Mon, 04 Oct 2010 21:08:07 GMT

6 Number Group Matrix (example 6/49 game would look like the following)

Notic cells B8 = 6, C8 = 18, and D8 = 25 Total = 49

Matrix 1-2-3 with 2,111,400 combinations hitting 1 every 6.62 draws (supposedly) lol vs. Matrix 6-0-0 hitting once every 13,983,816 draws. If we ever live long enough.

Reply #17

winsumloosesum — Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:51:56 GMT

Hi GiveFive,

I received your email.

1st for a 5/36 game for a full wheel of just 12 numbers you would need to play 792 combinations =combin(12,5).

The website you are referring to is taking numbers from 3 groups.

For example, a 5/36 game Group 1 = 12 numbers, Group 2 = 12 numbers, and Group 3 = 12 numbers.

If you look at all the ways you can take a total of 5 numbers from each group you would have a list like the following:

So for example: 1 - 2 - 2

If we take 1 number f... [ More ]

Reply #16

winsumloosesum — Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:47:13 GMT

Found an error with the orignal Excel file.

Here is the corrected Excel file download link:

http://www.box.net/shared/2960m7ydgn

Reply #15

GiveFive — Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:17:23 GMT

Try lottery america wthout the space in between lottery and america

Reply #14

GiveFive — Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:16:12 GMT

Winsum,

Very nice spreadsheet, thanks!

Something has been bothering me about the possible number of 5 number combos in a group of 13. I printed out a chart from a website that shows many many more combo's for a group of 12. (1 - 12, 13 - 24, 25 - 36)

I agree that the forumla johnph77 provided is correct, so how the people that generated the chart that appears on that website actually generated the numbers for their chart is a mystery to me.

You can see the chart at snip dot com slas... [ More ]

Reply #13

winsumloosesum — Sat, 02 Oct 2010 16:22:17 GMT

Below is a download link to an Excel file that will generate 1287 combinations per group.

http://www.box.net/shared/0p4mx5hohn

Open the Excel file and in cell C1 enter either a 1, 2, or 3.

Click an empty cell under cell C1.

Then click the Toolbar.

The 1287 combinations will appear starting in cell M1.

In cell H1 you will see the legend for each Group number.

Reply #12

kapla — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:36:52 GMT

Is there a way to get EXCEL to 'create' the list of 1287

Reply #11

GiveFive — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 11:53:02 GMT

Thanks for the tip! I'll give it a try.

And you're right, it is cool

Reply #10

B$Rizzle — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:32:18 GMT

Another way to calculate the different possiblities in a group of numbers is by using the COMBIN function in excel

For example say you have 15 numbers you play and you want groups of 3. The function would be :

=COMBIN(15,3)

that would give you 455 combinations.

Not sure if that helps or not but its pretty cool

Reply #9

johnph77 — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:37:42 GMT

Thanks for pointing out my error and giving me the chance to correct it.

Reply #8

GiveFive — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:29:47 GMT

After I submitted my post, I used a calculator and did the math w/o using the 8, and got a result of 1,287! Had I done that first, then I wouldnt have needed to bother you! Sorry!

E-mailed you a link to the website.... Thanks

Reply #7

johnph77 — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:23:26 GMT

Because I screwed up. When entering the formula, 8 shouldn't be included - there are only five numbers in the desired combination.

The correct formula (and the one I used to obtain the actual number of combinations) is: (13x12x11x10x9)/(1x2x3x4x5) - 1,287

Reply #6

GiveFive — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:33:54 GMT

Once again, thank you very much!

I'm curious as to why you stopped multiplying after using 8 in thr front half of the equation. Since there are 5 numbers picked, why wouldnt you stop after using 9? If it's too complicated or complex to easily explain in a post, then that's fine.... I'm simply curious and I dont have a burning need to know!

BTW, prior to posting here, I Googled calculating lottery odds , and I got quite a few hits. Some sites even have built-in calculators that will do the... [ More ]

Reply #5

johnph77 — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:07:21 GMT

Each group you cite has 13 numbers. The formula for 5-number groupings from 13 possibilities would be: (13x12x11x10x9x8)/(1x2x3x4x5) - 1,287.

Reply #4

GiveFive — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:15:06 GMT

If I want to calculate the number of combinations in a group of numbers in a 5/39 game, how would I do that? For instance, if I take the entire set of 39 numbers (1 - 39) and break it into 3 ranges of numbers.

(1 - 13, 14 - 26, 27 - 39)

How many possible combinations of 5 numbers are there in each of those three ranges? Thanks again

Reply #3

Coin Toss — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:37:58 GMT

GiveFive

Perimeter numbers ( top sand bottom row, left and right outside columns) work out the same way, 20 and 19, but it just doesn't seem to matter as far as predictability goes. Not drawing by drawing. If you were to play thousands of drawings, sure, it would prove itself out, but day by day, goos luck.

Reply #2

GiveFive — Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:07:11 GMT

Thanks so much

Reply #1

johnph77 — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:34:25 GMT

You are correct.

The number of combinations in 3/20 can be calculated with the formula (20x19x18)/1x2x3) = 1,140.

The number of combinations in 2/19 can be calculated with the formula (19x18)/(1x2) = 171.

Multiplying these two results will give you the total number of 3 odd/2 even in a 5/39 game - 194,940.

Conversely, the number of combinations in 3/19 can be calculated with the formula (19x18x17)/(1x2x3) = 969

The number of combinations in 2/20 can be calculated with the for... [ More ]

Number of odd combinations in a 5/39 game

GiveFive — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:57:35 GMT

There are a total of 575,757 combinations of 5 numbers in a 5/39 game.

Since there are 19 even numbers in the set of 39 numbers, and 20 odd numbers, it seems to me that there are a slightly larger number of combinations with a 3 odd 2 even split, than a 3 even 2 odd split.

Does any one know how to calculate the number of 3 odd 2 even combinations? If so, how many are there? Thanks in advance.