Lottery W/ Law Of Third Applied

Reply #18

time*treat — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:05:08 GMT

Out of curiosity, I adapted this for p5 and ran it against 3 years (2002~2004) of my state's 5/36 game ...

Same definitions as before.

block size block count nums rmvd

1 1096 5.00

2 1095 9.30

3 1094 12.99

4 1093 16.14

5 1092 18.85

6 1091 21.20

7 1090 23.22

8 1089 24.95

So, like before, giving each number one full chance to come out (on average) leaves 1/3rd of the numbers not drawn. Here you're having to choose between 5*7 and 5*8, you have... [ More ]

Reply #17

eddessaknight — Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:57:55 GMT

Hi time*treat

Do appreciate your on going interest contuing constructive contributions towards investigating this Law' opporftunity

Definitions, block numbers, size and expected drawings are positive tools yard sticks to help get a realistic handle.

Hope we can keep this developing forward

Many thanks again for your support!!!

Regards,

EddessaKnight

Reply #16

time*treat — Sun, 05 Dec 2010 23:40:41 GMT

Re-wording the question slightly to How many drawings before 2/3rds of the numbers are drawn?

a few definitions

block size -- number of (sequential) drawings to consider at once

block count -- number of complete blocks in the draw history of size block size

nums rmvd -- average quantity of numbers removed per block

source data: Lotto Texas 6/54

period: 04/26/2006 ~ 12/04/2010

block size block count nums rmvd

1 482 6.00

2 481 11.32

3 480 16.09

4 479 20.3... [ More ]

Reply #15

eddessaknight — Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:03:03 GMT

Time*Treat, et al-

Do appreciate your upbeat but factual heads up on text data source-

Just fun the fun of it would be nice how it actually performs,

but no can do .... YET!!!

Good Luck All.

EddessaKnight

Reply #14

time*treat — Sun, 05 Dec 2010 01:28:04 GMT

Ah, if you can find a text data source that doesn't require a whole bunch of work to get the numbers into usable form ...

examples:

Texas' text format is good.

Florida's text format is a clusterfark

(Neither of those is a 6/49, though.

Reply #13

eddessaknight — Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:37:04 GMT

Thanks time*treat for a encouraging practical application test, using past performance state lottery numbers for no risk testing-

Only problem we have is lottery is illegal in Nevada-

Any good souls here willing to check out the viability of this simple straighforward law of third procedure ???

Thanks in advance for your consideration, results could prove useful or at lerst interesting to all!

Good Hunting,

EddessaKnight

Reply #12

time*treat — Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:56:35 GMT

The thing to do here is simply test the idea on your state's numbers and see how it performs.

Reply #11

eddessaknight — Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:08:55 GMT

Hey Rick G appreciate the relevant contribution good hearing from you again.

Aye those two times a day draw cetainly makes a confusing difference that's by design.

Keeping in mind the great legendary great gambler quote of 'Guys Dolls'fame:

'When you own the roulette wheel, ts no longer a even chance game '

-Damon Runyon

Naturally same applies to any game, ping pong balls or racing

Regards,

EddessaKnight

Reply #10

Lucki723 — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 05:21:46 GMT

Reply #9

Rick G — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 05:14:10 GMT

You guys make good points. Another major noise factor for the pick 3/4 player is two daily draws, midday and evening. It seems to throw a monkey wrench into the player's psyche. More choices = more confusion.

Reply #8

eddessaknight — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:05:27 GMT

Hey Joker, we are on the same musical page w/dischrodant intentions of gaming operators meant to increase the player's noise to signal (S/N) ratio

This comes from the management mentality where as players are looked upon disdainfully as suckers. The prevalant view is the property is offering an enterainment in the name of gaming which is a losing bet not an opportunity for a living or riches outside the lucky strike. Therfore the management will vifourously discourage all. illegal legal playe... [ More ]

Reply #7

eddessaknight — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:43:55 GMT

four4me, do appreciate your sharing your personal take personal methodolgy experiences.

I experiemnted with a collection of hot cold past occurances and had mixed results. broke about even on lottery ping pong balls using the Systemn X by Professor of Math Dr Ian Ferguson; mild success by adapting same to chasing live Keno ping pong balls . It's certainly possible that the lack of game interference ala ostensibly pre-testing between games, as ouir Joker as often sighted, Could have made that... [ More ]

Reply #6

joker17 — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 04:25:13 GMT

Exactly !

If they have nothing to worry about or hide from the players, why go to such lengths to interfere with the natural flow of chaos?

I'd be interested as to what type of counter measures the casinos use. But I do know the excuse the lotteries use for counter measures. They claim it's to make sure the machines work correctly. Biggest bunch of BS I ever heard. It's an excuse. In fact, like I've said a thousand times before on the LP, they are actually contibuting to the machine's fail... [ More ]

Reply #5

eddessaknight — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:15:37 GMT

Thanks Jocker for your interest informative response.

I think your comments are a good call.

In casino table gambling circles Law of the Third has a big following however players contend with similar problems the interference is called countermeasures with the same intention of throwing your methodology 'out of whack.

Consider this, if gaming or lotteries wasn't beatable why do various covert countermeasures exsist???

Think about it

EddessaKnight

Reply #4

four4me — Mon, 29 Nov 2010 06:03:52 GMT

I've done this with bonus match 5 mega millions and our multi match game the sleepers or cold numbers rarely if at all ever come out in groups of 3 or more..... they tend to pop up singularly with the balls that were drawn more frequently,

a good test of this can be done setting up a number sheet and crossing off the numbers that were drawn for 30 days noting those numbers that weren't drawn and discovering when the sleepers were drawn.

I did it for years and still do looking for some clu... [ More ]

Reply #3

Todd — Mon, 29 Nov 2010 05:34:55 GMT

Reply #2

eddessaknight — Mon, 29 Nov 2010 04:48:57 GMT

Sorry my error, will be back later

Reply #1

joker17 — Mon, 29 Nov 2010 02:19:15 GMT

Good theory, but the Lottery conducts pretests, and Roulette or any other similar game doesn't.

This is what I've been saying about pretests for the longest time, rotation of the tubes and machine rotations. Those 16 numbers could've shown during those pretests, thus throwing the whole thing out of whack. Unless the officials disclose the pretest info, it's a waste of time.

Maybe applying the law to Roulette or similar games may work better.

Lottery W/ Law Of Third Applied

eddessaknight — Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:58:25 GMT

For those who are familiar w/The Law of Third

Consider it like a roulette wheel but with 49 pockets.

After 49 spins one third of the numbers would not have hit, so there's 16 sleeping numbers left after 49 have been dfrawn.

Lotto draws 6 numbers per play, so examining the last 8 games - should be approx 16 left-

Any thoughts on this comparison or approach ???

EddessaKnight