Statistics around the balance of even/odd and small/big numbers

Reply #142

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:19:28 GMT

Jimmy

Your not holding me back and you still think that I intended to sell my system and your thinking

is STILL WRONG... I have never made any attemps or plans to sell it and not only that but have

refused offers to purchase it. I have shown others my winning tickets and your madd I did not

include you in the loop. You have been wrong all along except for the fact that I will not post the

exact method I use to pick digits. You would not understand it if I did so why waste the time... [ More ]

Reply #141

jimmy4164 — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 06:12:44 GMT

Team RL-RANDOMLOGIC / STACK47,

The context for these 5 quotes is in your post above.

I wait until I see all the markers that lead up to an event and then I play.

If as I say that the drawings are not as random as you think and given that the probability and odds are based entirely on a random selection, then the stats will not always be correct.

I don't say that there is no element of randomness just that it is not as random as you think.

Catching these events and playing t... [ More ]

Reply #140

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:42:28 GMT

Stack47

Not in his nature.

RL

Reply #139

Stack47 — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:37:13 GMT

All the statistics you keep belching up have nothing to do with my play.

Off the top of my head I can give three examples when Jimmy's statistics not only had nothing to do with actual play and one (Maddog's Challenge the details) was so far off the charts, it defied credibility. It's obvious when someone assumes one size fits all when it comes to actual lottery play, they never played lottery games, never talked to anybody that did, or they are on a crusade against wagering on lottery games... [ More ]

Reply #138

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:27:55 GMT

Jimmy

I can tell that you did not even read the post. My claims of winning don't include the JP win

at all. The win was around 38K before taxes and believe it or not I gave the ticket away. Now

I don't know where you came up with the idea that I cracked the system as this seems to be

yet another fantasy of yours, let me say that I have not cracked anything. What I have done is

to find certain data that exist in every simulation that I have ever ran. I wait until I see all the... [ More ]

Reply #137

jimmy4164 — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:44:34 GMT

You said, You know the only ones who reply to your post are me and stack.

This isn't true, but regardless, unless you and Stack47 are the only ones accounting for the thousands of views, I have to assume there are a few out there who have learned something. Many people are shy in these situations, and not as willing to risk looking foolish, as you are.

If we decide to quit then it will beas though you are talking to yourself.

Why then don't you do me, yourselves, and everyone else a... [ More ]

Reply #136

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:00:42 GMT

Jimmy

You know the only ones who reply to your post are me and stack. If we decide to quit then it will be

as though you are talking to yourself. The nose dive my system took was in the bayesian predictor

which is no longer being used. You are still clueless in stating that I am beathing the odds, I say that

the odds are based on the randomness of the drawing and it is the randomness that is in question.

My civic duty compaired to the scratchers problem is not comparable, I am li... [ More ]

Reply #135

time*treat — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:53:34 GMT

This is interesting. If I were starting from scratch, or all out of my own ideas, I'd kick this around some.

It should have had its own thread.

Reply #134

jimmy4164 — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:56:43 GMT

...what you should to... ??

Sorry, I'm not planning on leaving just yet RL-RANDOMLOGIC.

You just can't deal with the hard questions, can you? You see, you THINK that I don't understand what you're doing, or what you're saying. You THINK. You THINK that you know all about statistics and that your methods don't fall within their purview. You claim that you do very well, but because your method is so complex, requiring so much of the human element, that it's just not realistic for anyone to e... [ More ]

Reply #133

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:28:47 GMT

I wish someone would explain in two words, what you should to GO AWAY

Reply #132

jimmy4164 — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 03:02:14 GMT

Would someone please correct me if I'm wrong in concluding that the 800+ words above can be summarized in 11 as, I decline the invitation to post predictions in advance of Draws.

Reply #131

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:59:36 GMT

ps

Nothing is truly random.

A computer draw or RNG is a artifical attempt at random.

How sufficiently random an event is, is a matter of observation.

RL

Reply #130

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:42:01 GMT

Jimmy

#1. Wrong again.

#2. I don't play everyday and sometimes go over a month without playing.

#3. Why would I waste my time playing a game in another state with no hope of winning anything.

#4. I don't spend $2000 per year, EVER.

#5. My average plays per year are around 25 to 35 with average tickets purchased around $500.00

#6. you are still clueless.

All the statistics you keep belching up have nothing to do with my play. Every thing you post is based

on pick... [ More ]

Reply #129

jimmy4164 — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 00:19:27 GMT

P.S. On the subject of Avatars: You would think that with all the money RL-RANDOMLOGIC must be making in Missouri that he could afford $50 a year for a Gold membership, so he too could express himself with his Avatar

Reply #128

jimmy4164 — Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:46:08 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC PICKS 2, 3, and 4 out of 5 numbers in a (5,39) LOTTO

GAME AT A RATE 5 TIMES WHAT WOULD BE EXPECTED FROM CHANCE!!!

(At least this is what he would have us believe.)

Here is why I say this.

His preferred game is the Missouri Show Me 5, a (5,39) Lotto game.

From their website you will learn the following after a few calculations:

Category Odds Payoff Expected Value

2 / 5 1 in 9.6 $ 1.00 $00.1042 MISSOURI'S *

3 / 5 1 in 102.6 $10.00 $00.0975 ODDS FROM

Reply #127

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:04:55 GMT

jimmy

I was wondering what took you so long to reply to this post, Standard Deviation in Stochastic Processes,

now that's something. I have and do run simulations all the time and have been winning for a very long

time. How long is short anyway? All the stats that you quote are based on a random selection; what

if the drawings are not as random as you believe them to be? What if I have found something or many

things in my many years of doing this that gives me an advantage. Buying... [ More ]

Reply #126

jimmy4164 — Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:28:18 GMT

(Sorry rl-randomlogic for the large and colorful type below, which apparently annoys you.)

(However, some of us like to lean back in our chairs.)

Completely predictable by Probability, it is not only possible, but highly likely, that people can and will BEAT THE ODDS in the SHORT RUN. You need to understand the concept of Standard Deviation in Stochastic Processes to know why this is true. Since you claim that you do understand this, it's puzzling that you choose to ignore it. (I think it... [ More ]

Reply #125

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 04:20:52 GMT

jimmy

Your like a turd that won't flush. What tough questions? All I see is a continued insistance that I

provide you with information on how I interpret many different bits of data. I use my mind, something

that you seem unable to do. I run the statistics only as a guide to check the expected vs the actual and

then make a decision based on many such observations. Do you really need me to hold your hand

and take you step be step. You can't think for yourself or you would understan... [ More ]

Reply #124

jimmy4164 — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:16:27 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

True to form, you have elected the same refuge as in the past. Namely, when you can't deal with facts and tough questions, you resort to personal attacks on me. You must think everyone here is stupid. Each of my 3 questions above were attached to specific statements that you made. If you actually think I'm the only one who notices this, then I feel bad for you.

--Jimmy4164

Reply #123

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:16:47 GMT

Jimmy

Don't waste your time. You are still clueless as to what I am doing. Your above post shows that

your understanding of my methods is zero. Your are going to try to post static results which mean

nothing. Then maybe you will do some backtest using every drawing to prove what I already know.

Here we go again, Do you know repeating yourself over and over is a sign of mental illness. You

have nothing to offer here or anywhere for that matter, I am not saying the math is useless,... [ More ]

Reply #122

Fortuna — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:03:58 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

I did not know that you were still posting.

I followed your posts about the 5-6 digit and I started implementing an online version (http://lafortuna.info/calculator/Jackpot.aspx).

I sort of abandoned the project until a few days ago I received a request from Sweden to implement a version for a 7-number game.

I made a few changes to my program and I added a the 7-number game to the page.

I could add some of your calculations and predictions to the page, if you are w... [ More ]

Reply #121

jimmy4164 — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:55:39 GMT

P.S.

Reply #120

jimmy4164 — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:48:45 GMT

Many days I don't need to use a single filter and only need to place a few conditions on the digits I play.

And what might distinguish these days from the days when you would NEED to use a filter or two?

When or why I choose the digits Iplay depends on many things which change everyday.

Since you have assured us your decisions have absolutely NOTHING to do with past draw results in the game, would you be willing to tell us what just ONE of these things that change daily might be... [ More ]

Reply #119

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:31:17 GMT

jimmy

This shows a major defect in that exist in many here who post the stats. I can't speak for others

but I don't bet on the odd-even split or any other split. When playing, spending $575,757.00 to win

$50,000.00 would be kind of stupid at least from my perspective, you may think this is a good way to

play and more power to you but leave me out. In order for me to play my $8.00 to $12.00 a couple

times a week or month I must remove over 575,740 + sets. Filters are always a last... [ More ]

Reply #118

jimmy4164 — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 05:58:57 GMT

How much or little this would help is an easy question to answer. There is no opportunity to bet on the balance of odd and even numbers, so it's of absolutely no help at all in choosing what numbers to play.

AMEN

Reply #117

jimmy4164 — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 05:50:09 GMT

Sorry. From your response, it appears I hit a nerve! No need to get so angry.

I could have used random selections from anywhere within my database and although i was trying to take the last so many draws I gave little effort in making sure they were exact.

That's odd. As you did the first 10, it appears you made every effort to be exact. In fact, you were absolutely precise and accurate! Maybe it was late, and you started dozing off when you did the last 3. It happens. You are correc... [ More ]

Reply #116

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 02:15:23 GMT

Jimmy

I had planned on leaving LP for good when I showed truecritic some picks of wins. The data i listed

was copied and pasted from my database. I had to do this one line at a time and could of made a

mistake but that means nothing. The example was just to show the way I count digits and even

with the mistakes it does not change anything. I see you are up to your jackass ways again. The

post was not even directed to you. You think you have found something but it does not matter,

Reply #115

jimmy4164 — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 04:24:04 GMT

Here is my FIRST response to this post(above):

-------------------

below is a list of values for each of the 10 digits taken from my database. The most current draw is the top line.

These 13 lines seem to be based on actual Lottery Drawings.

The most current draw implies a specific date, state, and game.

Is this correct?

If so, what state, game, and dates are they from?

-------------------

Since there was no reply, it looks like I'll have to answer my own question.... [ More ]

Reply #114

jimmy4164 — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 06:19:51 GMT

below is a list of values for each of the 10 digits taken from my database. The most current draw is the top line.

These 13 lines seem to be based on actual Lottery Drawings.

The most current draw implies a specific date, state, and game.

Is this correct?

If so, what state, game, and dates are they from

Reply #113

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 14:11:07 GMT

truecritic

This is a little closer but not quite. First I forgot to say that I don't try to match the digits in any

order. Lets say the the set 03-10-15-22-38 was drawn.

the set has

2 digit 1's

2 digit 2's

2 digit 3's

1 digit 5

1 digit 8

1 digit 0 the 0 in the number 03 is not counted

The 5 numbers are made up using 6 total digits, each digit is counted only once at this step.

below is a list of values for each of the 10 digits taken from my database. The most cu... [ More ]

Reply #112

truecritic — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 11:21:46 GMT

Thank you for your generous offer...PM on the way.

I think with this post I am getting a clearer picture of what you have attempted to explain. I'll have to study it, in depth.

Are you, in essence, explaining a bell curve? Taking and using digits/numbers which occur most frequently? Leaving out the digits/numbers in the tails which do not come up as often? Or am I way off track again

Reply #111

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:52:03 GMT

truecritic

Wow, The post above shows the entire digit system and the reasons for playing. Sorry if you

don't understand. I don't know any other way to say it and thought this explaination would

clear up things for everyone. If you really want to see some to the copies just send me a

PM with a email address and I will send a few that I photo copied. I think I photo copied

around $400.00 worth over a 10 day time frame. I have a email setup just for LP members

and only use it fo... [ More ]

Reply #110

truecritic — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 03:04:14 GMT

Pick-3/4 games do now follow this at all and suggesting it shows that you have missed the point.

Well, you are right! I don't understand and have missed the point.

If a 5-number game can have 10 digits - then it follows a 1-number game (such as a pick3) can have 3 digits.

I guess that is why I said with all your explanations throughout all your posts, you haven't clarified hardly anything. Hence my suggestions that some more information is needed - which appears you are refusing. OK.... [ More ]

Reply #109

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 02:00:25 GMT

KY Floyd

Thanks for the reply, I am getting use to everyone thinking that I don't understand what I say.

I could of earned a MD in statistics had I only paid attention. Satistics are very useful for many

things, I just haven't found any that will help me pick winning numbers. My views on random

are also very different then most which also leads me to the conculsions that I draw concerning

the lottery. If I use different rules for random then I must rethink the odds also. If the od... [ More ]

Reply #108

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 01:02:43 GMT

truecritic

Pick-3/4 games do now follow this at all and suggesting it shows that you have missed the point.

A 5 number game can have as few as 5 and as many as 10 digits in each drawing. A pick3 game

is nothing more then picking a number from 000 to 999. Digits in a pick-3 suffer from the same

problems as numbers do in other games. The reason I keep writting is I believe that many still

don't understand and maybe it's time to just quit trying. Posting numbers or Pics, I ask why... [ More ]

Reply #107

truecritic — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:51:31 GMT

RL

Digits? As in Pick3?

Using the concept you have developed for the 5-39 game, wouldn't the Pick3 be a piece of cake?

Of course you don't have to prove anything - but why keep writing and writing and not post some picks in a thread, before the drawing? Just post the ones you intend to play on paper.

As far as posting images at LP, it is a rather simple process. You can use TinyPic Image hosting (or there are other hosting websites). I believe you can still use them without even ope... [ More ]

Reply #106

KY Floyd — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:49:31 GMT

In answering the original question jwhou is absolutey correct in saying that it's all justified by randomness. What you say about the ratio of odd and even balls makes perfect sense, but it sounds like you misunderstand the conclusions that can be properly drawn from that knowledge.

If you look at a moderately large sample of results from any given game it's a fairly sure thing that the total number of odd balls selected and the total number of even balls selected will have a ratio that's ver... [ More ]

Reply #105

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:07:15 GMT

truecritic

The old dos software went out back durning my system post. About 30 people got the

software before I had to stop. The software was never intended for public release and

was somewhat dated. I never built a help menu or instructions and then found myself

coaching 30 people on 100's of different questions. It took over my entire life and so we

started a yahoo group so that members could learn from others thinking this would take

the load off, Nope. It was a little like... [ More ]

Reply #104

truecritic — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:18:18 GMT

I had a woman come to me in a public place and she began to rub me thinking luck would rub off.

Um? How much do you have to win to make this happen?

Was that win using your method that you keep attempting to explain, yet never actually show in all these recent threads? Have you given your system a name so it can be referred to easily?

With all your explanations, I am nothing but confused as to how your system works. Is there still a chance you are going to make your software available

Reply #103

jimmy4164 — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 04:32:10 GMT

OH WOW! This a bummer!

And here I thought you guys were serious when you claimed to have a system that defied all the laws of probability, one that would have caused famous long dead mathematicians to roll over in their graves! But based on everything I'm reading in reply to my suggestion to get it peer reviewed, you all apparently think it's a joke. Well, if you think your methods are a joke, how can you expect others to take them seriousely?

What a disappointment

Reply #102

time*treat — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:16:33 GMT

Actually, I remember reading about a jackpot winner doing something similar (couldn't find the story, though). Moved out of their regular house and got an unlisted number before claiming, so I take it as good advice.

Strangers touching you ... there's a certain ick factor, there. If you had done that to a woman, she'd be yelling assault .

Reply #101

Stack47 — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 16:32:18 GMT

I've been laughing ever since Jimmy told us making a dollar bet on the same pick-3 in every drawing for over 30 years is a bad bet. Laughed even harder when his years worth of Challenge statistics proved what people had been saying when he first started it.

Since he has abandon his Applications for Probability and Statistics thread, I now believe it was a typo and should have been Applications are now being taken for probability and statistical lottery theories .

Reply #100

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:08:43 GMT

gary01954

This work must have began in Texas as we all know everything is big in Texas. I have found that

3.1416 covers just about anything that deals with the lottery or 3.14 for that matter and probably

3.1 would work fine. Jimmy however may be very interested in proving these calculations. I must

decline this offer but wish to thank you for the opportunity to be a part of such a important life changing

event such as this.

RL

Reply #99

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 13:42:00 GMT

time*treat

Won't be any pics or interviews and a lawyer will be doing the legwork, not even my Mother will know.

Having won a JP in the past take it from me, people who win don't really change but everyone you know

will. Some will dispise while others want some kind of blessing. I had a woman come to me in a public

place and she began to rub me thinking luck would rub off. Take a trip to a large city in your state and

lease a apartment and get a unlisted phone number. Claim the p... [ More ]

Reply #98

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:15:41 GMT

Jimmy

HA,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha. This made me laugh. I knew there was a since of humor hiding somewhere.

You should use it more often. I will start working on my groundbreaking research in number

theory right away. I can see that fields metal hanging on my wall, hmmmmmm. I wonder if they

will give me two or three for something as cool as this? I am going to nail the first one on my

front door. I have one question if you don't mind, If I wear one around my neck do I need a uniform

to go... [ More ]

Reply #97

garyo1954 — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 09:23:58 GMT

Dear Sir,

We are pleased to receive your submission Digit Dominant Matrix for The Lottery Player.

At current we are understaffed and in need of volunteer assitance in our latest project, Everybody Wants a Piece of Pi.

Knowing your work is top notch, and your handwriting is legible, we have enclosed (see attachment), a pdf of pages 55 - 109 of the New World Record Pi calculations. These are just a sampling of the 5 trillion we are priviledged to verify.

In addition, we will be s... [ More ]

Reply #96

time*treat — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 05:32:59 GMT

Gotta make sure you're wearing a shirt or something with your LP name, so we know it's you.

A 50K check may not get special nationwide coverage (not the first couple of times you do it, anyway), but some states will put p5 winners on the individual state's lottery site.

Reply #95

RJOh — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 05:23:59 GMT

A lottery player peers are other lottery players. What better place to reveal the results of his research in number theory than the LP Discussion and Mathematics forums

Reply #94

jimmy4164 — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:58:12 GMT

Unveiling of the Digit System!

I just found the perfect publication for the release of the results of the groundbreaking research in number theory being discussed here. Although it would be nice to become famous posing with a Missouri Lottery Winner's check, when and if that might occur is hard to foresee. However, The Missouri Journal of Mathematical Sciences is published 3 times a year, and with some effort, it might be possible to prepare a paper for peer review in time for the Spring issu... [ More ]

Reply #93

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:24:34 GMT

RJOH

Although I don't think my winning 50K or so would warrent any national press coverage. I hope to

win a big one but not picky, a couple 3 of 5's will make my day.

RL

Reply #92

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:19:43 GMT

RJOH

Thanks

Reply #91

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:18:55 GMT

jwhou

but is in fact perfectly justified by randomness. I dissagree with this statement and would say

that the odd/even balance will be in direct porportion to the balance of odd/even within the matrix.

If the matrix contains a 30/70 mix of some value regardless of what the value represents, a random

sample will produce the similar results. The results are then not purely a product of random but the

of the matrix also. For this reason the so called pattern or results could be use... [ More ]

Reply #90

RJOh — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:03:33 GMT

A picture of you at a press conference holding the big jackpot check you've won should silents your critics. Good luck.

Reply #89

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:47:12 GMT

dr san

I know the odds for each digit hitting in any one drawing and most of the remarks made by the staticians

are a insult. There continued repetitious comparisons to probability shows a complete lack of any attemp

to understand what I have said. I say that I am able to predict the digits with a greater then expected

average when I play. I receive in return is the same old song and dance which is getting really old. Picking

from a list of 10 is much easier then picking from a li... [ More ]

Reply #88

dr san — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:14:39 GMT

ol RL-randomlogic=

so you have the probabilities, I checked the calculations.

509977 with 1's or 88,58%

251125 with 7's or 43,62%

33649 without any 1 or 7, or 6%,

So what? What benefit does this bring to you? You can't bet on digits.

Just like you can't bet on the sums, central trios and so on.

You can only bet on numbers.

I'm not talking about 100% guarantee here, I'm saying that you can not

make any difference at all. Not 80%, not anything.... [ More ]

Reply #87

jimmy4164 — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 05:45:41 GMT

If you worked through all the attempts to exploit what people perceive as a pattern, you'll find that they've really haven't found any advantage at all but of course you'll never convince anybody of that.

Truer words were never spoken

Reply #86

jwhou — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 05:17:29 GMT

Yeah the statistical and probability reason for it is that it's completely random. All you're doing is rephrasing conditions and then you're wondering why it's 75%. It's like flipping two coins and wondering why 75% of the flips are not both heads up. The reason why is that it's random and you would only expect 25% of the flips to be both heads up. It's the same issue with the even odd balance crap, it only seems to be more than would be justified by randomness but is in fact perfectly justified... [ More ]

Reply #85

Stack47 — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:41:12 GMT

He looked over my shoulder in the hotel one night as I composed one of my futile rebuttals here on my laptop.

You were on vacation in a city that's open 24 hours with thousands of things you could be doing with your son you seldom see yet you choose to spend your time posting useless information.

That really says it all

Reply #84

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:55:46 GMT

Jim

PS

I think you would be correct in moving to the Gaming Forum if it's any consolation because

there your probability could help improve ones play for many games. The lottery is static

in nature and one only needs to calculate these values once. They will never change unless

the game changes.

RL

Reply #83

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 14:01:11 GMT

Jimbo

I do understand exactly what dr san said. you cannon get it through your head that

there are other methods then probability. I see you raised your son in your own image,

poor kid. I have a predictor based very loosely on bayes that does use some probability

but other then that N-O P-R-O-B-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y. Tell me here, for all the world to see just

how you invision dr san's post as providing me with any information that will help me win

the lottery. He, like yourself someho... [ More ]

Reply #82

jimmy4164 — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 06:15:48 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

You said, And by the way JIMBOB I do understand what he was saying exactly...

Sorry RL-RANDOMLOGIC, but you DO NOT understand [ALL OF] what dr san said, and I refuse to waste any more time trying to explain it to you. Perhaps dr san will try again.

I had a great vacation in Las Vegas a few months ago with one of my sons that I don't get to see very often. He looked over my shoulder in the hotel one night as I composed one of my futile rebuttals here on my laptop. After... [ More ]

Reply #81

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:55:09 GMT

Jimmy

I think you have a big enought dent for us all. I understand what he says I just don't see a question.

Maybe you could be kind enough to ask this unseen question, I read the post and took it at face value.

He is using the same lame probability which really has little if any value to me and my methods of picking

my numbers.

dr San I am not confused at all, I am fully aware of the math behind this and must say that if you are

picking your numbers based this you should buy... [ More ]

Reply #80

jimmy4164 — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:12:44 GMT

I do not see a question here but I could be missing something.

Unbelievable!

Your mind experiment once again documents your lack of understanding of probability as it relates to intersections of sets, which is what dr san is trying to explain to you.

Perhaps someone else can make a dent...

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/223006/1836232

Reply #79

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:07:13 GMT

dr san

Sorry, I somehow skipped over or missed reading this post. I have stopped replying to you post

because of the translation errors. It seems that you have picked up a new friend named jimmy and

I must warn you that if he reads many of your post that he will turn on you and accused you of being

a victim of the gamblers fallacy. As for your probability statements above I must agree. Every set in

the entire matrix has the same chance of being drawn and lumping several sets that

Reply #78

jimmy4164 — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:45:19 GMT

RL-RANDOM-LOGIC,

You may not realize it, but when you said, I did not reply to dr san because I did not fully understand his point of reference to the concept of the link he posted, you SPOKE VOLUMES!

Thanks for being honest.

For anyone else interested, dr san's recent post gets at the crux of the problem:

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/225251/1930632

Perhaps you can pick up the ball for RL-RANDOMLOGIC and tell us why you think dr san is wrong. If you agree with him, as I do,... [ More ]

Reply #77

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:04:45 GMT

Jimmy

I did not reply to dr san because I did not fully understand his point of reference to the concept of

the link he posted. He seems to agree and disagree many times on the same subject matter. I often

have trouble understanding his post and to avoid giving a incorrect responce I don't respond at all.

I like much of what I believe he has posted but many times cannot tell for sure just what he is saying.

What you don't understand is that the lottery is not about MATH........ [ More ]

Reply #76

jimmy4164 — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:57:30 GMT

Reply #75

Stack47 — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:19:54 GMT

Nice to see you're sticking to providing on site links instead of that boring and useless info from the 18th century.

I'm hoping one of these days you'll actually point me into the direction of a post that says something positive about your statistical findings, but I suspect my beard will turn whiter and whiter waiting for that to happen.

Reply #74

jimmy4164 — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:21:40 GMT

Stack47,

Whew! Couldn't you make your point[s] in a sentence or two? Don't bother, however; you've said this all before, and I've replied to it.

Try dr san's approach:

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/225251/1930632

Perhaps you can pick up the ball for RL-RANDOMLOGIC and tell us why you thinkdr san is wrong.

--Jimmy4164

Reply #73

Stack47 — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:55:35 GMT

You (Jimmy) hide behind simple math and think this makes you stand out in some way, not.

There is nothing wrong with statistics and I applaud anyone taking the time to do it. However when their conclusions prove what 99% of all lottery players already knew, the statistics are useless. Jimmy can pretend they mean something for the next 30 years but at the end of the day, they only prove what we already knew on day one. He actually believed it was extraordinary to find playing $1 on the same n... [ More ]

Reply #72

jimmy4164 — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:48:11 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

Oh my! Perhaps I spoke too soon in the P.S. to my reply to dr san above.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/225251/1931138

Last night President Obama encouraged young Americans to pursue studies in math and science in his State of the Union speech. I immediately thought of you, and wondered if maybe he had read some of your postings here. Your six precepts above surely would have motivated him! Our country really does need to heed his advice.

Above, dr san presented t... [ More ]

Reply #71

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:50:48 GMT

Jimmy

I stand behind what I wrote, Now and In my post. I Still think that the Digit system will win more then

any other system of play. What you want is for me to spill my best stuff because you don't seem to

be able to get past the stats. I win more then anyone I know who plays the lottery and on a regular

basis. You are the one that does not want to admit that you could be wrong. You don't see the error

of your own ways. I am beginning to think your broken record like repetition... [ More ]

Reply #70

jimmy4164 — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:07:45 GMT

dr san,

------------You said-----------------

You(RL) say: P(G) P(F).

I(dr san) say: P(H)=P(B)=P(C).

These two statements are in no conflict. And they are both correct. You

just need to be methodic and not confuse these things.

----------------------------------------

Your explanation is much better than mine!

Obrigado!

--Jimmy4164

P.S. RL doesn't seem like a bad guy. Let's hope that, with your help, he figures this out.

Reply #69

dr san — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:35:54 GMT

Let's define various events:

Event H: The combination (1,2,3,4,5,6) will come.

Event B: The combination (1,9,20,29,42,49) will come.

Event C: The combination (1,2,3,47,48,49) will come.

Event D: Either B or C will happen.

Event E: The sum will be 10.

Event F: The sum will be 21.

Event G: The sum will be 150.

(I use H instead of A because the translation software understands

letter A wrongly)

What I say is: Events H, B and C are equally probable.

I don't say: Ev... [ More ]

Reply #68

jimmy4164 — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:58:24 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

Anyone who cares to look back at your posts from our sparring a few months ago will chuckle when they compare your claims of financial success then with your Digit System with your significantly subdued remarks today. Maybe I succeeded in getting you to examine your ideas in relation to Taleb's Fooled by Randomness. If I did, that's a good thing. As for you admitting as much, I'm not surprised at your final words. You fit quite neatly into Dean Esmay's description of the perso... [ More ]

Reply #67

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:53:12 GMT

Jimmy

My bad, 14.46

The 73,000 is a average gotten from the total sales for the game in FY2010. Lets Say that SP's

do no better then QP's and from what I have gathered which is not based on any concrete data

that 70% are QP's and 30% SP's. The 73,000 is average sales per day. Over the years I have

built many RNG's for testing and found that all of them seemed to produce clusters of sets of numbers.

I was calculating using only the 70% assumed QP's. 73,000 - 30% = 49,000. N... [ More ]

Reply #66

jimmy4164 — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:33:51 GMT

P.S.S. (Missed the 20 minute Edit Window!)

In the post immediately above, change this sentence:

Also, you would have to multiply either .085 or .127 by the ticket sale numbers for each of the 5 days, rather than the average, assuming that's what 73,000 is.

to...

Also, you would have to recalculate the factors .085 OR .127 using the ACTUAL daily ticket sale numbers rather than 73,000.

Reply #65

jimmy4164 — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:06:19 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

You should really consider taking another look at your calculations above. I've excerpted some of them here in BLUE. My comments are in PURPLE (and black).

5-39 matrix

575757 sets

any 5 number set

5 of 5 = 1

4 of 5 = 170

3 of 5 = 5610

2 of 5 = 59840

1 of 5 = 231880

0 of 5 = 278256

73,000 tickets sold of which 49,000 were QP's estimated from ticket sales 70/30 mix

Does 73,000 represent the AVERAGE daily ticket sales for the 5 days in your... [ More ]

Reply #64

jimmy4164 — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:42:31 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

You said, I would ask is your RNG generated QP's a good choice, much more can be gotten from this information. Sufficiently random, define 'sufficiently.'

Apparently, state RNGs are sufficiently Random to produce big winners:

https://www.lotterypost.com/news/226441/1925713

--Jimmy4164,

Reply #63

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:19:56 GMT

Jimmy

I just seen the light, you seem to think I have some sort of following here at LP and have

become a guru of sorts. I would say that 99% of people that read these threads are just

looking for some entertainment. I don't have a following and I have to shake my head.

Your thought process is not to add but to tear down. You have never added anything to what

I have posted except to keep repeating what I have known since Jr high.

It looks to me like you are comparing pat... [ More ]

Reply #62

jimmy4164 — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:33:37 GMT

Jimmy

Some times I feel alone in this world, It is maybe my fault as I seem to be unable to convey my thoughts. Nothing in the previous post was meant to be used as a method of improving ones chances but to explain a process which I think that few ever even think of. You can use the stats and probability just so many ways before they begin to sound like a record that skips. I though you would be interested it this, My mistake. It's clear to me that your main and maybe only interest is the bot... [ More ]

Reply #61

LANTERN — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 03:48:22 GMT

jimmy4164

There is neither luck nor chance, but if there was chance, luck then would be when chance favors you.

Reply #60

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 03:38:51 GMT

Jimmy

Some times I feel alone in this world, It is maybe my fault as I seem to be unable to convey my

thoughts. Nothing in the previous post was meant to be used as a method of improving ones

chances but to explain a process which I think that few ever even think of. You can use the

stats and probability just so many ways before they begin to sound like a record that skips. I

though you would be interested it this, My mistake. It's clear to me that your main and maybe

only inte... [ More ]

Reply #59

jimmy4164 — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:15:19 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

It looks to me like you are comparing patterns in the distribution of winning tickets to those expected with truly Random Quickpicks. Below, I hope I can convince you this is not a fruitful endeavor because it ignores important questions and facts.

You may say, so what, this has no effect on the final set as it can be any number within the matrix and be correct, but at least think about it.

This is correct, and I have. (See Below.)

Running many like test can lead t... [ More ]

Reply #58

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:35:15 GMT

Jimmy

Every lottery that I know of uses RNG's and without them there would be no quick-picks. The

purpose for this workout was to show that random QP's are not evenly distributed and large

clumps of similar number sets are produced. This can be tested but is not really necessary.

I view QP's like this. If a lottery like my 5-39 sells 70,000 tickets on any given day and 70% of

those are QP's or 49,000 then what are the odds that the final set will duplicate one of the

previous g... [ More ]

Reply #57

jimmy4164 — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:43:30 GMT

* Generate a large group of 5 number sets simulating many people buying tickets.

* Next pick a single set and check it against all the sets in the large groups of sets.

* Record how many 4 and 5 of 5's matches in the large groups of sets simulating a

drawing and the prizes paid.

* Do this many times and you should find why some days have more 4 of 5's then others.

* 2 of 5 and 3 of 5's are really not a product of this observation

OK. Let's say I've done this, and I come... [ More ]

Reply #56

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 04:15:48 GMT

Jimmy

Odd even has nothing to do with this question, I would like to say that high 4 of 5's are the

days I play but not the case here. Think larger and the patterns that exist here are repeated

over and over. It's kind of a trick question, the pattern has nothing to do with numbers drawn.

but tickets played. Population distrubition of randomly selected sets. Look at a single game

but not at the set drawn but of the many tickets sold. Generate a large group of 5 number sets

simu... [ More ]

Reply #55

jimmy4164 — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:17:01 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

It's not really clear to me what we should notice in this small set of results. If you are seeing some pattern related to the number of ODD or EVEN numbers, or the number of unique digits, or something to do with prime numbers, it's of no relevance, other than the fact that more people (like you) might bet on certain patterns, so that when they DO HIT, there are more winners! No matter what you are trying to show, this would not be nearly enough data to draw any conclusions an... [ More ]

Reply #54

jimjwright — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:50:01 GMT

Math geeks playing prime odd numbers?

Jimmy

Reply #53

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:52:07 GMT

Anyone

Below are the results for the last 5 MO. SM-Cash 5 drawings. There is nothing special about

any of these drawings. What I would like you to look at is the 3 of 5 and the 4 of 5 wins for each

game with most attention on the 4 of 5's. First notice that ticket sales do not seem to have a

effect on this. My question is what is the most logical reason for the 4 of 5's hits within these

draws? Take your time because the most obvious may not be correct.

Tue, Jan 18,... [ More ]

Reply #52

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 04:54:15 GMT

L55

This is also a product of the matrix. Study a numerical list of the entire matrix for your game

and you will see why it is so. When you look at the skips for almost any number you will find

that the best time for a number to hit is in the next drawing and the second best is with one

day between. This does not mean that it will happen but explains rather why it does.

RL

Reply #51

jimmy4164 — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:40:12 GMT

PB with its posted odds and payouts expect to only payout $34,112,290 in smaller prizes when it sells 195,249,054 chances to win its jackpot which is only 17.5% of the money spent on those tickets. Unless a regular and consistent player wins the jackpot, he should never expect to recover more than 20% of the money he spends on tickets.

Thanks RJ

Reply #50

lovely55 — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:37:04 GMT

I seem to think that certain numbers follow each other most times

Reply #49

RJOh — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:15:11 GMT

combination size 5

basic pool size 59

(B) Bonus pool size 39

smallest match no (B) number 3

largest match with bonus 5

smallest match with bonus 0

tickets or chances per draw 195249054

possible combos of 5/59 + 1/39 numbers = 195249054

MATCHES ODDS WINNING COMBOS EXPECTED WINNERS PAYOUTS

5/5+B 1 : 195249054 1 1.00 JP

5/5+0 1 : 5138133 38 38.00 $7600000

4/5+B 1 : 723145 270 270.00 $2700000

4/5+0 1 : 19030 10260 10260.00 $1026000

3/5+B 1 : 13644 14310 14310.0... [ More ]

Reply #48

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 14:25:50 GMT

Jimmy

OK, I see what you are after. I started to post a reply showing in detail how I calculate my

selections and two hours later I am not even close to having it done so I am going to paste

it to notepad to finish it at a later time. Knowing how you scrutinise what I write It will take

much proofing before it can be posted and will still be full of mistakes. It will not be for the

lighthearted and much of it cannot be done without software. I will have very litttle time

Reply #47

jimmy4164 — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:03:58 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

You said, I take 100 of so samples of different sizes from different points within my database and analyse them to see how well each sample follows the matrix and look for a margin of error from the expected.

This and the rest of your posting is a paraphrase of much of what you've been writing here for months. ...a margin of error from the expected. Hmmm... You insist you don't look back, so just what are you saying here? This posting doesn't tell us anything of value, and... [ More ]

Reply #46

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:31:48 GMT

jimmy

I take 100 of so samples of different sizes from different points within my database and analyse

them to see how well each sample follows the matrix and look for a margin of error from the

expected. Remember the method you use to calculate what will happen over time as in your

30 years of pick-3 analysis, same thing but with a much smaller pool of possible outcomes. I can

tell you with a very small margin of error how many drawings will have 3 odd numbers 30 years in

the... [ More ]

Reply #45

jimmy4164 — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:58:57 GMT

P.S.

You also said, Luck does not exist but Chance however does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POxhFFGfR7o

Reply #44

jimmy4164 — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:17:18 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

You said, Lets say that I play 2 to 3 odd most days because of the matrix, I make a run and because of the digits and other setting I have used I get too many numbers to play.

What sorts of events or observations prompt you to make one setting over another in your various parameters? And what would compel you to use different settings today, from those you used yesterday?

--Jimmy4164

Reply #43

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:37:00 GMT

Jimmy

Should you ever grow a brain of your own then maybe you will see through your misconceptions.

The fallcy you mention stems from a belief that you think, I think that past draws have something

to do with the future draws, Not so. I do not think you understand what I mean when I say that

the draws will follow the matrix. The Bayesian program could be given those attributes but you

must first consider that it is not looking at the numbers but data that is gotten from the entir... [ More ]