Will debt ceiling be increased?

Reply #260

joker17 — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 04:09:37 GMT

Yup, I'm sponging off my sister.....

I've got my California license and my car is registered in two days flat, and I'm having my interview this coming Tuesday as a cab driver in Los Angeles. (Flying lessons not included).... Eat your heart out Ridge...!

Maybe one day you'll realize what a moron you really are. I doubt it, but I'm rooting for you palsy walsy...

Reply #259

joker17 — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 04:02:12 GMT

Maybe your wooden crucifix idol may forgive you for being an imposter. Keep talking to an inanimate object, hey you never know, it may respond after the 7th drink.

Reply #258

jarasan — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 03:48:42 GMT

Be honest with yourself, for once. Do you think those nitwits rioting, burning, and destroying things represent a broad spectrum of British citizens? That they are accomplishing something

Reply #257

rdgrnr — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:53:09 GMT

So did you and all your roommates finish your flying lessons before moving back near the nuclear reactor

Reply #256

rdgrnr — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:44:57 GMT

Calm down Nancy, you're still my favorite tranny. I have good news!

Joker's back and rumor has it he shaved all the matted fur off of himself just for you.

Still hasn't taken a bath though.

So tonight's wetnursing might be a little stinky after his sweaty move out to the land of Californy dancin' boys to sponge off of his sister.

Happy wetnursing

Reply #255

joker17 — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:00:38 GMT

You have to be a Christian comedian to receive free passes.

Reply #254

jimmy4164 — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 00:48:22 GMT

Do you sleep on a cot at the foot of the LP Grand Poobah's bed?

It's one way to explain how you enjoy free reign with your language here.

Nary a snip

Reply #253

jarasan — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 00:41:27 GMT

Are you reading the posts??????? The point of the video is that it isn't so civil and evidence based in the country England . And I meant Dunning Krugar bugger toe self aggrandizing POS.

Delta Dawn lecturing earlier: Learn it now!

Look Here seekers,

From over the sea - here is a fresh perspective:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/01/britain-resist-tea-party-thinking

You see they have a bit of an advantage because of their

standards of civil order. Our senior ci... [ More ]

Reply #252

jimmy4164 — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 00:19:26 GMT

jarasan,

You are very good at posting videos without telling us who, what, where, or why! What is your point with this one, that the Brits know how to resist when they believe they're being treated unfairly? Or what?

BTW,

... Who is nomoreliblabcon?

... And we're still waiting for your take on this...

http://www.johnperkins.org/?page_id=9

--Jimmy4164

Reply #251

jarasan — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:30:34 GMT

And it isn't a sea, you dolt. Dunning Kruger self grandising POS.

Reply #250

rdgrnr — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:19:25 GMT

Queenie, Queenie, Queenie.

What's it been, a couple weeks now since you've taken your meds?

You've been flitting and fluttering about here like a gadfly taking one position in one post and the opposite in the next. You're clearly unstable and even though that in itself is not a disqualifier for people (even spokesmen and leaders) of your political genre (democrat), it does cause me some concern for your general well-being.

Isn't someone supposed to be watching you?

Some of us are ge... [ More ]

Reply #249

jarasan — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:25:35 GMT

Reply #248

Delta Draw — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 07:33:18 GMT

Look Here seekers,

From over the sea - here is a fresh perspective:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/01/britain-resist-tea-party-thinking

You see they have a bit of an advantage because of their

standards of civil order. Our senior civil service prides itself on

drawing on the finest Oxbridge minds because they should be trained in

evidence-based thinking. Boy, it sure is nice when someone can put in words what is going on.

The English actually still use evid... [ More ]

Reply #247

rdgrnr — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:29:20 GMT

Hey Nancy,

Your new avatar, is her name Lola by any chance?

BTW, I wish little mario the moron was here so you could read the rules off his sig, but since he isn't, let me enlighten you.

When you keep copy-pasting your same posts over and over, it's called spamming.

Learn it, live it, love it.

Are you using a different keyboard

Reply #246

rdgrnr — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:12:36 GMT

YEAST! LMAO!

Hey Queenie!

Never waste a crisis!

Make some croissants!

None for me though.

Thanks anyway.

Reply #245

rdgrnr — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:09:09 GMT

Listen up Queenie,

Your messiah said if we didn't raise the debt ceiling the Dow would plunge.

The idiots raised it and it's plunging anyway.

Are you gonna be right behind him sniffing his ass all the way to perdition?

I think he owes you and all his other ass-sniffers a firm handshake, a pat on the back and a warm smile of approval.

Try not to swoon.

Reply #244

jarasan — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:39:25 GMT

OK, I accept that.

And you are? Smart? Enlightened? Brilliant? All knowing?

As far as cannibalism no, but some roof hares definitely on the menu, grilled marinated in a curry maringo sauce.

Self preservation is your focus, not mine.

Make sure you have plenty of your meds on hand and everything will be OK. Is it hormonal? Yeast

Reply #243

Delta Draw — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 00:32:44 GMT

You obviously have the stupid gene because if you read your textbooks and looked into historical details, you would not be stupid.

And you had CHILDREN???

They let you breed stupid seed? How are you going to feed them? Cloth or house them? What happens when your parents lose the house? Where will you go? Will there be canned peaches for you?

Would you resort to cannibalism?

Think: Self Preservation

That is the focus of the chaos

and that is your role.

Reply #242

jimmy4164 — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 00:23:51 GMT

(Couldn't you at least tell us who nomoreliblabcon is?)

Jarasan says, ...that video is for setting the record straight on the leftist crap taught in public schools for the past 40 years.

Jimmy4164 replies, Oh, I see ... and who is (are) 'nomoreliblabcon' ?? I guess that question slipped your mind.

I hope everyone clicks on nomoreliblabcon while viewing Jarasan's video at YouTube...

Whether Jarasan agrees with my sources or not, at least I can point to and name them!

Jarasan also... [ More ]

Reply #241

jarasan — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:47:48 GMT

You obviously don't have kids.

Now go and get those meds you've run out of, and convince yourself some more that you have a purpose and reason to exist.

OBTW -512 points.

Reply #240

Delta Draw — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:08:36 GMT

You ain't a patriot. You fly the Gadsden, a military flag that had no country.

You and your avatar are TEA Baggers. That is creepy.

Since when does a drunken hillbilly read Ann Rand?

The Dow is down over 430, 445 points. Go baby! Make the TEAS happy!

Are you happy we are failing you seditious freak?

Who is it you want to surrender to

Reply #239

rdgrnr — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:51:37 GMT

You ain't a woman.

But you wish you were.

You're an old queen.

And that's creepy.

Reply #238

jimmy4164 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:46:59 GMT

Well, based on your post here, communications are subject to interception, as feared.

Reply #237

Delta Draw — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:36:55 GMT

Sank-you.

Oh my gosh! I never

knew that France went to hell from their

involvement in our American revolution!

You mean Franklin the electrostatic wonder-boy was in France for

diplomatic reasons? This was never taught in American history. I thought he was

just a playboy and partied a lot.

Sounded like our revolution was a little crown to crown

brinkmanship; England lost all interest in the new land while France later sells us the Louisiana purchase for a

country they h... [ More ]

Reply #236

jimmy4164 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:30:57 GMT

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/234687/2156125

By the way, what happened to your interest in France

Reply #235

Delta Draw — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:05:49 GMT

What video

Reply #234

Delta Draw — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:04:10 GMT

Just trying to shine up to your avatar s love for men. Tee-hee!

Your little princess wants you to escort her to the prom next

year. She will need a dress too.

She outgrew the potatoe sack you sent her for her birthday several years ago. Some shoes would be

nice too.

She promised not to call you a litle prick any more, so the medication seems to be working, but she still bites her nails off all the time. Don't worry, there is still enough nail left for some polish when it is prom... [ More ]

Reply #233

rdgrnr — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:55:04 GMT

I knew it.

Now as to your prior claims of being a male

Reply #232

Delta Draw — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:35:55 GMT

Dunning-Krugar!

Don t trust anyone who is smarter than yourself, especially if facts are involved. Listen to El

Rush-Bo. Don t trust what is taught in schools either, it is leftist socialist

communistic crap! That crap comes from the government, so it has to be evil. But

who is selling it to the government????? 'sup with dat?

I did not know the Fed was a Government, but I agree all

governments are overbearing, in fact a king would say that too. We need a king

and abolish civ... [ More ]

Reply #231

jimmy4164 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:38:03 GMT

Jarasan says, ...that video is for setting the record straight on the leftist crap taught in public schools for the past 40 years.

Jimmy4164 replies, Oh, I see ... and who is (are) 'nomoreliblabcon' ?? I guess that question slipped your mind.

I hope everyone clicks on nomoreliblabcon while viewing Jarasan's video at YouTube...

Whether Jarasan agrees with my sources or not, at least I can point to and name them!

Jarasan also forgot about John Perkins on Corporatocracy...

http://w... [ More ]

Reply #230

jarasan — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:18:44 GMT

Thanks for changing your avatar!

Robert Reich is an idiot. He was interviewed recently and he said more of the same crap stimulus will cure our high unempolyment and bad economy.

That video was not intended to be clever, that video is for setting the record straight on the leftist crap taught in public schools for the past 40 years. Take it or leave it, nothing more nothing less.

That is precisely why the Feds and ALL over-bearing govts. need to get out of the way of the American econo... [ More ]

Reply #229

Delta Draw — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:59:46 GMT

Yea you got me there.

I am no beauty queen, my tummy (apron) is hanging at my knees with my breasts

and I always use a cart to ride in when I grocery shop. I still draw second glances

though, and I got more than what Sarah has to offer and the men know it.

No need to dress up to go to the dollar store like at Wal-Mart, so between my

pajamas and my polyester running tights

I keep a simple wardrobe. Our daughter is a big girl too but she can still push

a grocery cart and drive... [ More ]

Reply #228

jimmy4164 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:56:37 GMT

America is becoming a plutocracy

More and more wealth in fewer and fewer hands, secret campaign donations: It's a perfect storm

By Robert Reich

It s a perfect storm. And I m not talking about the Democrats. I m talking about our system of democratic capitalism.

First, income in America is now more concentrated in fewer hands than it s been in 80 years. Almost a quarter of total income generated in the United States is going to the top 1 percent of Americans.

The top one-tenth of 1... [ More ]

Reply #227

sully16 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:00:48 GMT

and a good time was had by all

Reply #226

jimmy4164 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 04:50:02 GMT

Click Here For Some Nourishment...

Reply #225

rdgrnr — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:56:24 GMT

Yeah, I hit the nail on the head didn't I?

Sarah's hotter than Georgia Asphalt and you know it.

Meanwhile there's you.

You call yourself Cat Woman.

But you're really Cow Woman.

Ain'tcha

Reply #224

Delta Draw — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:44:53 GMT

That s it? Sensation over substance?

Are you really a liberal playing the devil s

advocate. Are you my BFF or what!?

Her best demographic are old men like yourself dreaming of a MILF. You leg humpers are something

else. I think she screwed Alaska and big oil enough as the whole of Alaska. Too bad

real educated and professional women do not care for the wink and a smile grifter. There are some savy women who are not buying her glam.

I would try to explain to your Sully the basic... [ More ]

Reply #223

Delta Draw — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:35:39 GMT

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/bohemian-grove-where-the-rich-and-powerful-go-to-misbehave/2011/06/15/AGPV1sVH_blog.html

There is a way for you to get in the gate, but you won't see much lying on your back. I knew someone who lived in the town just outside of the grove. They would bring the women in by the carload.

Reply #222

rdgrnr — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:18:44 GMT

Let's get to the real crux of your crisis, my little malcontented he/she.

Palin's HOT.

You're NOT.

That's the problem most lib women have with her.

And so do you.

And I can tell you first hand that's she's even HOTTER in person.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

LAWD HAVE MERSAAAAAAAAAAAY!

She got all that meat and potatoes in the right place too! OOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW! OOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooohhhhh weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... [ More ]

Reply #221

Stack47 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:19:18 GMT

Congress had to raise the debt ceiling to $14.294 trillion because they couldn't pay down any of the principle on $12.394 trillion they already borrowed. I can understand how a monetarily sound nation could get by on the interest payments from a couple of $ trillion, but who has $10 trillion to loan without seeing any return on any of the principle for many years?

With all the disaster problems in Japan and monetary in Europe, interest payments won't help much if they are some of the lenders.... [ More ]

Reply #220

sully16 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:00:06 GMT

give me one good reason why

A. we shouldn't have taxes cut

B. we shouldn't make the Government fiscally responsible.

I don't really care who did what or when,

when do you think their spending spree should stop,

Reply #219

haymaker — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:48:06 GMT

jordans 121, money is not the root of all evil.

love of money is the root of all evil

one word makes a big difference .

Reply #218

Jordans121 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:22:32 GMT

Enough with the talks of Sarah Palin, Obama, Republican, Democrats....as we look through history account for many leaders across this world we are steadily remimded how these leaders come to power... Money, which is the root to all evil. You must remember that the rich and powerful pay both sides so they never lose.

Many of the arguments that are taking place doesnt concern the majority of Americans. These same arguments will be made 20 years from now. Its the illusion that keeps this co... [ More ]

Reply #217

Delta Draw — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:48:01 GMT

Well you drunken waste of a hillbilly, how do you expect any

rational person to follow you and the TEAs if you talk like that? I thought you

were all about taking the hi road, not the high road.

You and Palin are two of a kind. Uneducated sloths of

society. When the going gets tough you resort to name calling and insult. Quitters both. Better

make a trip to town and stock up on canned peaches, but you would be better off

not throwing empties out the front door so the neighbors

Reply #216

rdgrnr — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:25:02 GMT

Does it upset you that someone agrees with me? Someone educated who can think for themselves??

Hey Nancy, there's your opening - the come hither look you were waiting for.

Wackmeister is waiting.

Go for it.

Don't forget the nail polish.

Reply #215

Delta Draw — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:07:13 GMT

Boy are you reddazzed, give yourself a bag-balm treatment, but first try a little water and a towel to get the chunks washed off. What a princess you are when you get faced with facts .

You got what you wanted and now you can relish in

the results like you are building a better nation, what a bummer for you it did

not fail- yet. Does it upset you that someone agrees with me? Someone educated who can think for themselves?? i don't need a cheering section.

Ronald Reagan demanded 18 in... [ More ]

Reply #214

jimmy4164 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:30:58 GMT

One of the huge problems is ignorance.

I agree with this statement, wholeheartedly!

Jarasan, that video was very cleverly produced. Although it contains some interesting and worthwhile information, it unfortunately ignores the primary modern distortions of Republics and Democracies, the ones caused by the interference of corporations, especially the multinational variety. You may believe that Plutocracy and Corporatocracy are just forms of Oligarchy, but you should question why the video

Reply #213

sully16 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:20:36 GMT

Yum

Reply #212

tiggs95 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:18:18 GMT

Yes tiggs loves Bohemain's...well done...with sauce....and corn on the cobb..

Reply #211

sully16 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:12:48 GMT

Tiggs, he was supposed to take us with him, hope he brings us back a treat.

Reply #210

tiggs95 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:17:00 GMT

Ridge is attending a funtion at Bohemian Grove ..

Why is it some people need to talk in the 3rd person..Kinda rude ain't it?..

Reply #209

rdgrnr — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:06:54 GMT

Proud democrat America Hater Nancy declares Proud democrat America Hater Delta Dipsh*t to be Brilliant.

It was Nancy's first overture to Dippy. He's such a flirt!

And so romantic!

It's only a matter of time before they're painting each other's toenails and talking babytalk to each other.

I think they'll make a beautiful couple.

Reply #208

jarasan — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 12:00:02 GMT

I can only dream of a free country again! This is becoming the impossible dream. Just the windmills in my mind.

One of the huge problems is ignorance.

free reign over its governance ?????????????????????????

WTF?

The tea party is not about anarchy or more goverenment, it is about shrinking and rolling back this hideous mass of federal, state, and local governments.

Read, comprehend, investigate, read history books (as many as you can), THINK LEARN of how we've gotten here.

You... [ More ]

Reply #207

jimmy4164 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:59:40 GMT

I don't always agree with you, but this post is a brilliant analysis!

Just imagine what would happen to this country if rdgrnr and the TEA Baggers were given free reign over its governance. How long would it take before we would see a repeat of this?

http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/thefrenchrevolution/a/timelinefr2.htm

Reply #206

Delta Draw — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:52:59 GMT

I can have opinions and I can have beliefs. That is because

there is no mandate on what I have to believe. There is no law that says I cannot

express my beliefs, not unlike yourself. That does not mean I have to agree with

everyone, or anyone because as a free citizen, it is a privilege of freedom.

I can discuss and debate and even criticize beliefs with the

same rights. I can vote and be proud of the way I decide to vote and there is no

reason I need to be influenced by those

Reply #205

Delta Draw — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:29:11 GMT

Spoken like Ted Kaczynski, I am helpless and am freaking

out because what I have learned the best is, learned helplessness. Recently it

was expressed in entertainment: resistance is futile.

You get a star next to your name, you learned your lesson

well enough to express yourself of your observation.

Is not congress in DC? Who is the female deity of DC? What

does DC really mean? The seat of our government is in a district governed by, those who CAN T UNDERSTAND NORMAL THINKING.

Reply #204

sully16 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:22:06 GMT

Reply #203

jarasan — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:18:53 GMT

Yeah right, independent. You are so open to other people's opinions. Probably a libra right???????? A real good listener and considers all sides of an issue. Very level headed, never rants, never throws stones, not a name caller, but a serious pragmatic conscientious rational middle of the road gregarious fun to be with person.

Reply #202

Delta Draw — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:47:33 GMT

Nice reply for a bigoted islamophobe weasel

but I am an independent. That means I take in the political banter and decide

for myself about issues. http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/07/25/277631/breivik-influenced-by-american-islamophobes/

I have no sympathy for the unabomber s violent actions just like the people

of Norway have no tolerance for Breivik s associations and murderous actions. I

have no sympathy for what happens to seditious people who work and plot to

destroy... [ More ]

Reply #201

sully16 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:39:33 GMT

WILL DO, With the creation of the super congress, we no longer have a say, it won't matter who we vote for , 13 people will now decide the fate of America, Congress made itself obsolete.

Reply #200

jarasan — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 00:52:30 GMT

Correction 266 pts. 8th down day. I just watched people on the street being asked about the debt ceiling being raised...........................we're in trouble..............the internet/media is not working..........talk to your kids and neighbors . Please.

Reply #199

jarasan — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:34:39 GMT

It only fell 256pts. no biggie Obama has got it covered.

The roof is on fire..............let the $uck3r burn,

Reply #198

rdgrnr — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:32:38 GMT

OK, you caught me. It's me, the ghostwriter.

Ridge is attending a function at Bohemian Grove.

He did however leave a response for anything you might require of him and it reads as follows: Blow it out your ass.

He instructed me to use that phrase in response to anything whatsoever you have to say.

He did say he was very impressed by your sympathy for the Unabomber and how much you relate to his cause and methods.

He went on to say that out of all the America Haters he's... [ More ]

Reply #197

taxijohn — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:45:19 GMT

Well, I knew they would. Must be nice to increase your own credit card limit. But you know what, the rest of the world in watching. Now, our credit rating will go down, price of foods and daily consumed items will go up.

Obama already raised the debt ceiling in feb 2010, raising the public debt limit from $12.394 trillion to $14.294 trillion. one has to wonder, why is it so publicized now? I'll tell you why, 2012, that's why. To some people he will be painted a hero. More xbox games, sugar la... [ More ]

Reply #196

jarasan — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:12:34 GMT

Now that the debt ceiling has been lifted it does nothing. It only proves this politburo GD bunch of a$$holes in charge is out to $crew the US TAXPAYER and it's economy again! You happy now?

http://finance.yahoo.com/

Notice the numbers in red?

Instead of going off the cliff @ 80mph we are going off at 78.5mph.

Reply #195

GASMETERGUY — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:49:42 GMT

I'm sorry you noticed this thieft while Reagan was in office. That might cause you to believe he was responsible.

Lyndon Johnson, with his War on Poverty, was the first to dip into the SS surplus. Under his administration people who did not pay into SS were allowed to draw from the fund. With each new democrat President, more people were qualified to withdraw from SS.

I remember reading a story about a year ago about a Haitian who came to this country at the ripe age of 70 and was immedia... [ More ]

Reply #194

GASMETERGUY — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:34:04 GMT

The spending cuts will never happen. the democrats have lied once again for the sole purpose of getting what they wanted.

I fully expect Obama to have spent whatever money the higher debt ceiling will provide within the next 9 months. He will then call for an even high debt ceiling and his minions will call those who oppose terrorists, wingnuts, teabaggers and other assorted names.

And people like (insert your favorite liberal here) will rally to Obama's cause and find all sorts of articl... [ More ]

Reply #193

CARBOB — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:38:36 GMT

This explains, which may or may not be true. You can't take nothing for granted when dealing with politicians.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_there_a_national_surplus_when_Clinton_left_office

Reply #192

GASMETERGUY — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 15:37:25 GMT

Way to go, Sully. You speak the truth. Clinton just stated there was a surplus and all his cronies fell into line. Even today, when the truth is out there, you will hear those who have been duped into declaring Clinton left a surplus.

Reply #191

Delta Draw — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 14:07:08 GMT

If our government cannot keep its books and pay its debt it will be deregulated. For such a local and international failure there is a plan by outsiders to govern such a designed crisis. Failure to address the debt with the urgency it requires will insure our national deregulation for a new regulation; new order. https://www.lotterypost.com/news/234092/2152800

Well looky hear folks, we got a new credit rating by the regulators! Imagine that!

http://blog.nj.com/njv_john_farmer/2011/07

Reply #190

yomibid1 — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:47:10 GMT

This has been going on for decades, so true, it's been going on long before the present Administration.

The line should have been drawn long before now, and there is no quick fix. The fighting need to stop

and we all need to come together to make this a better country for all people.

Reply #189

Delta Draw — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:07:19 GMT

You TEAs do not make sense.

First you scream about socialism and socialistic programs, then you scream when SSI is threatened. You even say there is a life raft for Medicare and Medicaid, but from the other side of your mouth they are SOCIALISM and we are becoming communists by their very existence.

Do you like your SSI now? Are things a little tight there and now you want

SOCIALISM? Do You need SOCIALISM in the form of your SSI? Is the check your sufficiency

and not God? You sound

Reply #188

sully16 — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:44:51 GMT

Yikes,

Reply #187

jarasan — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:34:11 GMT

Just a reminder 1 trillion dollars = 1000 x 1 billion dollars.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html

Reply #186

CARBOB — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:04:17 GMT

ridge,

The first time, I heard about using the money from the trust fund was in Reagans' first term. This might not have been the first time it was done. It wasn't just the SS trust fund, also the Transportation trust fund. At that time, both funds were in excess of 75 billion surplus. I said it then and now, they never should have have touched neither trust fund. Every single one of our elected officals are bought and paid for by lobbyist, employed by big business.

Reply #185

jimmy4164 — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 06:33:54 GMT

I voted yes.

There seems to be a lot of concern here about too much spending, some of which I can agree with. But it would also help to consider some ways to offset the necessary spending. Here's one:

https://www.lotterypost.com/blogentry/54925

Reply #184

rdgrnr — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:03:37 GMT

If you mean by voting those idiots in then I guess you're right, tenaj.

But I can guarantee you we didn't empty the social security trust fund and fill it with worthless IOU's after they promised us it would never be touched.

They did that.

And everything else they did to put us in this horrendous mess we're in.

We voted the dirtbags in and then they destroyed our country.

And they should all be put in prison for what they've done.

Reply #183

Tenaj — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 01:53:08 GMT

We put ourselves where we are.

Reply #182

rdgrnr — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 01:45:57 GMT

The United States is now officially in decline.

Just where Obama and the Dems put us.

Just where Obama and the Dems want us.

China will be the world's Number One Economy in 2016 on our current trajectory.

Harry Reid must be happy as a lark

Reply #181

sully16 — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 01:37:22 GMT

Stack, I think we are all screwed. Plan for the worse and hope for the best.

Reply #180

jarasan — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:24:35 GMT

This is our future:

http://santamariatimes.com/news/world/spain-s-embattled-premier-calls-early-elections/article_281e4615-483f-5fbf-8282-10c162025973.html

Good luck.

Reply #179

Coin Toss — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:00:38 GMT

Stack47,

Re: the two after-the-fact no votes, maybe Harry Reid and Nancy Pellosi are members here on LP

Reply #178

Stack47 — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:59:23 GMT

We elect the entire House of Representatives every two years and twice in the last four years the majority changed drastically. The difference in the last swing was the new members of the majority party didn't follow their party leadership. Because Representative must spend lots of money to effectively run a reelection campaign, donations from special interest groups come into play.

Had to chuckle when I noticed two people voted no after it was announced a deal had been made.

Reply #177

Raven62 — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:49:18 GMT

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/234726

Reply #176

Coin Toss — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 05:23:59 GMT

Sounds good on paper but never works out in reality.

If it did, no state with a lottery would be hurting right now, states with lotteries would have the best schools in the country and highest paid teachers...but it never comes out that way.

Reply #175

myturn — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 05:19:04 GMT

They should also set up a US LOTTO to help address the deficit. It would raise billions every year and I believe people would participate if they thought the revenue was helping to addressing the issue.

Reply #174

Longarm — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 05:07:06 GMT

Thank you for the discussion. I appreciate variance of opinion and negotiation. Although I understand the need for more drastic measures when people are unyielding and intransigent. I'm unhappy about the debt problem, but my primary concern is about the increasing partisanship and decreasing ability to conduct business, on top of the long-existing high-spending power trip that goes on in Washington.

This seems like we're headed toward all kinds of bad things, but everything people do makes it... [ More ]

Reply #173

rdgrnr — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 04:22:46 GMT

I see and understand that your concern is genuine, Longarm, but doing what they want us to do has never accomplished anything. Why would we do what we've always done and expect a different result? We'll just guarantee ourselves more of the same down the road again.

The money is there, I've seen the figures but don't recall them off the top of my head but they were surprised by even more tax revenue coming in than expected.

The only pressure you can put on them when appropriations are being... [ More ]

Reply #172

Longarm — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 04:07:00 GMT

I don't know how much money there is, or will be. I assume and hope the military has a savings account somewhere because they know how crazy Congress can be.

I can't state facts here because I don't know the financial situation that well. I doubt if the people whose job it is to figure this stuff out know, either. I prefer not to take these chances. Even if the revenue is there, it may not be there at the right time. There are annual and quarterly tax payments that may be sufficient, but too... [ More ]

Reply #171

rdgrnr — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 03:47:06 GMT

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Like I said, you have to draw the line somewhere instead of doing what they say to avoid the doom and gloom scenario they paint for us every time they do this.

You say the hell should be raised when Congress is working on the budget. Yes, it should be but they haven't worked on a budget in how long now, 4 years?

And the fact of the matter is it wouldn't get done then and there's nothing we could do about it anyway and they know it. Are we... [ More ]

Reply #170

Longarm — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 03:28:55 GMT

We have to cut spending in the future. We can't unspend money in the past. The debt ceiling increase is not an appropriation. We can increase the debt ceiling and make good on our obligations and at the same time cut future spending. The most frustrating thing now for me is that people see an increase of trillions of dollars and assume it's more money spent. It isn't more money spent, it's money that's already been spent. The debate now is over whether to pay the bill.

This hell should be rai... [ More ]

Reply #169

rdgrnr — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 03:10:43 GMT

I understand what you're saying, Longarm, but we get sucked in everytime by the same lame excuses like that one, as pressing as it is. So we go ahead and raise the ceiling to cover our committments again and what always happens? They do it all over again and say we have to raise it again for the same reasons as last time.

People are just getting fed up with the BS and you can't blame them.

You have to draw the line somewhere.

Reply #168

Longarm — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:56:49 GMT

There's a difference between cutting spending the raising the debt ceiling. They're entirely separate issues.

For clarification, raising the debt ceiling has nothing to do with future spending; it has to do with past spending. The increase would not give the president more money to spend on whatever he wants; it would give more money to spend as Congress has appropriated. Trying to reduce spending by not raising the ceiling is like spending a bunch on a credit card and then deciding to cu... [ More ]

Reply #167

rdgrnr — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:23:44 GMT

Yep.

And the mindless minions are lining up in the chutes.

Reply #166

sully16 — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:21:17 GMT

maybe ,maybe not, I have been watching Greta, seems like any savings will be long gone if obamacare kicks in, we need real leadership and we don't have it.

Reply #165

rdgrnr — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:19:47 GMT

Finally, politicians who keep their word and stand on principle, God bless 'em.

Reply #164

Peter00 — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:18:43 GMT

anybody read atlas shrugged? its scary. its happening to us now.

Reply #163

rdgrnr — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:15:46 GMT

Equating me with radical Muslim men in Iran who beat their wives. I don't even half a wife.....

What do you do then? Quarter them

Reply #162

Stack47 — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:12:14 GMT

I'm assuming most of the Tea Party members in the House will vote against the Republican and Democrat leadership compromise bill. It's going to be interesting in 2012 because it looks like the Tea Party is evolving into a viable third party.

Reply #161

rdgrnr — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:04:19 GMT

Is this a contest or something?

Am I supposed to guess which comment is racist?

OK, I give up, which one is it?

I do however want to thank you for re-running some of my Golden Oldies.

I really needed a laugh after the tedium of babysitting you all day.

And I have to admit nobody can make me laugh out loud quite as well as I can.

Care for a bath in pig blood