If you could match all 6 numbers within 24 numbers would this be the best wheel?

Reply #15

nasp — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 11:28:04 GMT

Thanks BobP. Which wheel or wheels would you consider best for a 6/49 game that give the best chance for 5# or/and a JP win, made up to about 400 lines? Thanks again for taking the time to reply.

Reply #14

BobP — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 07:02:49 GMT

A 5 or 6 would be slim indeed, however if the key numbers are correct and the other three winning numbers fall among the pointers 4-48 you would have a 100% chance of three 4 number wins.

BobP

Reply #13

nasp — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 17:48:48 GMT

Excellent! Thank you for posting the wheels. In this wheel,

01 02 03 04 05 06

01 02 03 07 08 09

01 02 03 10 11 12

01 02 03 13 14 15

01 02 03 16 17 18

01 02 03 19 20 21

01 02 03 22 23 24

01 02 03 25 26 27

01 02 03 28 29 30

01 02 03 31 32 33

01 02 03 34 35 36

01 02 03 37 38 39

01 02 03 40 41 42

01 02 03 43 44 45

01 02 03 46 47 48

4if6 when 3 keys are correct.

what would be the percentage or chance of getting a 5# and the JP, if you get the ba... [ More ]

Reply #12

BobP — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 09:09:49 GMT

Banker, key, king, monarch numbers 01 02 03

4 5 6

4 7 40

4 7 45

4 7 49

4 8 46

4 8 47

4 9 37

4 9 44

4 10 39

4 12 33

4 13 34

4 16 41

4 17 26

4 36 42

4 38 48

4 43 47

5 6 38

5 6 41

5 6 42

5 6 43

5 6 48

5 7 47

5 8 49

5 9 39

5 10 37

5 16 40

5 27 46

5 36 45

5 44 49

6 7 37

6 8 39

6 9 10

6 12 45

6 16 44

6 36 40

6 39 46

6 47 49

7 8 9

7 10 41

7 16 42

7 36 38

7 38 46

7 39 43

Reply #11

nasp — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:59:29 GMT

Hi RJoh, I have tried looking for the formula but didn't find any threads that were particularly informative. Could you plese provide a link to the relevant thread?

BobP, I remember when I stumbled on one of your posts where you have posted a wheel I think for a 6/49 game, where the lines of the wheel were made from

triplets (three numbers) and the other three numbers were combinations covering the whole pool. I don't know if you understand which wheel I am referring to. It had a goo... [ More ]

Reply #10

RJOh — Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:30:53 GMT

You can use the probability formula which has been explained many times in other threads and should be in every serious lottery player tool box.

Reply #9

nasp — Thu, 01 Sep 2011 11:02:18 GMT

Hi BobP,

Thank you for you message. As I understand, you are recommending playing a 4if6in6 and/or a Banker 3 wheel, no?

With the 3+3=JP as I understand you recommend to place the 24 numbers into groups of three bankers and do all possible combinations?

Also, how did you manage to do the 4if6in6 in 177 lines? I tried it in CM and the best I could do using the auto-optimize function was 195 lines.

Thanks

Spy

Reply #8

BobP — Thu, 01 Sep 2011 09:50:57 GMT

6 8 12 17 20 23

3 5 8 15 18 21

10 11 12 16 17 18

9 11 15 18 20 22

1 5 7 15 16 23

3 4 7 11 14 23

2 4 5 7 14 17

3 9 10 15 19 24

4 10 15 17 19 23

3 14 16 18 20 22

3 7 12 15 18 22

1 4 12 16 20 24

1 9 10 17 19 22

7 14 15 17 19 23

3 5 12 15 17 20

1 5 10 14 17 21

1 2 3 13 14 15

7 8 9 22 23 24

3 6 7 11 14 18

3 4 11 13 18 24

4 5 6 22 23 24

4 6 11 14 18 23

1 5 7 9 13 22

13 14 15 19 20 21

2 7 11 13 20 22

1 11 14 17 20 23

1 6 13 1... [ More ]

Reply #7

nasp — Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:45:12 GMT

Also RJOh,where can I get the above statistics? Is there a mathematical formula I can use?

Thanks

Spy

Reply #6

nasp — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:38:46 GMT

Is any type of wheel more preferable than others if I can trap all 6 numbers in a pool of 24

Reply #5

Raven62 — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:22:49 GMT

Ininuga is a PC program, intended for creation or improvement (minimization) of abbreviated lotto wheels. It allows any choice of parameters (v, k, t, m) in range (1..32). (See: What are Wheels for

explanation) A typical time to do this job varies from a fraction of a second to several hours, depending on parameters (and consequently the wheel size). A non optimized (far too big) wheel is made fast, then

reduction goes ever slower. When started from scratch, the final size is not always im... [ More ]

Reply #4

RJOh — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:35:12 GMT

With CoverMaster, any size wheel with any guaranteed can be produced if you have the time. It would take a little time to produce a 24 numbers wheel that guaranteed a match4 or better and then optomize it to its smallest size.

Reply #3

Boney526 — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:29:12 GMT

Oh darn this is Pick 6 lol my was for a Cash 5 game.

Reply #2

Boney526 — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:23:17 GMT

That.

They (wheels) are all over the internet - and I'm sure wheels with 24 numbers exist, but I've never seen one. That's too many numbers, I'd suggest using something similary to one I constructed a while ago, I'll see if I can find it. It used like 12 numbers, but I think I could modify it a little later if I can find it, to allow for more, but you have to pick which numbers are priorities, which are pairs, etc.

And it wasn't an abbreviated wheel, actually it was a key wheel w... [ More ]

Reply #1

RJOh — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:15:43 GMT

Even if you have all six numbers in a field of 24, your odds of having all six in one line are 1:134,596 and having 5 of them in one line are 1:1,246 so it's going to be a large wheel that guarantees even a match5.

If you could match all 6 numbers within 24 numbers would this be the best wheel?

nasp — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:29:34 GMT

Hello,

The title says it all... I find that I am able to match 6 numbers out of the 24, around 1-2 times in 10 draws. Would a Serotic wheel using pairs be the best wheel to capture the higher prizes?

Thanks

Spy