PI in the Pick 3? What are we talking about exactly? A few ideas...

Reply #269

Kola — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:48:01 GMT

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I've already posted a tool one could use to help narrow down to the correct group of numbers to play. One other thing that could help is that you often see that the number immediately following +0000 or +5555 will contain footprints of the next winning draw. Again the program is meant to hit for the immediate next draw.

The winning draw was in the +3333 row with a box hit of 9120. But if you look at the numbers accompanying +0000 and +5555, you see that in... [ More ]

Reply #268

Kola — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:41:11 GMT

**IMPORTANT**

Please take note that in the Excel results you may get a 5 digit number. Its really a Pick 4 number. Just subtract 9999 from it OR just mentally move and add the first digit to the last. So a 10324 is really 0325.

Examples:

1.

10998 - Add first digit to last, which is 1 + 0998 = 0999

2.

15899.9 - Add first digit to last digit before decimal, which is 1 + 5899.9 = 5900.9

3.

13745.2 - 1 + 3745.2 = 3746

Hope you find the program useful.

Goo... [ More ]

Reply #267

Kola — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:05:44 GMT

I had overlooked checking these results on May 12

On the +3333 row, there was a box hit of 9120

Reply #266

Kola — Wed, 30 May 2012 13:09:29 GMT

Firstly,

The Rings of Pi is meant to work for the next draw hit, so if the numbers don't hit for the next draw please drop them.

Draw cases:

1. Using 2 consecutive midday draws, you are looking for the next midday draw.

2. Using 2 consecutive evening draws, you are looking for the next evening draw.

3. Using an evening to midday draw, you are looking for the next midday, or working from mid to evening to find next the next midday.

In all cases, usually the 'last draw' is the do... [ More ]

Reply #265

Aquarium — Sun, 13 May 2012 21:36:27 GMT

Yep it is, you are right kola. And thanks Madman.

Reply #264

Kola — Sat, 12 May 2012 21:49:51 GMT

Wow. Again, its simple and elegant. Great stuff...Thanks a lot Texas Madman...

Reply #263

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 15:38:48 GMT

Rings of PI

Texas using last night 0823 and Fridays miday 3862.

+0000 216.6 221.6 266.6 271.6 716.6 721.6 766.6 771.6 5216.6 5221.6 5266.6 5271.6 5716.6 5721.6 5766.6

+1111 1327.6 1332.6 1377.6 1382.6 1827.6 1832.6 1877.6 1882.6 6327.6 6332.6 6377.6 6382.6 6827.6 6832.6 6877.6

+2222 2438.6 2443.6 2488.6 2493.6 2938.6 2943.6 2988.6 2993.6 7438.6 7443.6 7488.6 7493.6 7938.6 7943.6 7988.6

+3333 3549.6 3554.6 3599.6 3604.6 4049.6 4054.6 4099.6 4104.6 8549.6 8554.6 8599.6 8604.6... [ More ]

Reply #262

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 15:33:13 GMT

Florida p4 using the last 2 draws of the morning: 2879,1756.

+0000 737.7 742.7 787.7 792.7 1237.7 1242.7 1287.7 1292.7 5737.7 5742.7 5787.7 5792.7 6237.7 6242.7 6287.7

+1111 1848.7 1853.7 1898.7 1903.7 2348.7 2353.7 2398.7 2403.7 6848.7 6853.7 6898.7 6903.7 7348.7 7353.7 7398.7

+2222 2959.7 2964.7 3009.7 3014.7 3459.7 3464.7 3509.7 3514.7 7959.7 7964.7 8009.7 8014.7 8459.7 8464.7 8509.7

+3333 4070.7 4075.7 4120.7 4125.7 4570.7 4575.7 4620.7 4625.7 9070.7 9075.7 9120.7 9125.7 9... [ More ]

Reply #261

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 15:26:54 GMT

Thanks

Reply #260

Texas MadMan — Sat, 12 May 2012 15:18:45 GMT

Okay, the spreadsheet now shows all the mirror combos as well. As always, let me know of any issues.

Reply #259

Kola — Sat, 12 May 2012 04:25:33 GMT

Hello Texas Madman,

Thank you very much for the time and effort you put into this. If you do get a chance to add in those other mirrors, I think people will be pleasantly surprised as to how it performs...Thanks again...

Reply #258

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 03:43:09 GMT

A great program and easy to use. Thanks again.

Reply #257

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 03:40:13 GMT

Kola Pi for California using the last 2 draws.

+0000 860.6

+1111 1971.6

+2222 3082.6

+3333 4193.6

+4444 5304.6

+5555 6415.6

+6666 7526.6

+7777 8637.6

+8888 9748.6

+9999 10859.6

Reply #256

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 03:35:11 GMT

Kola Pi for Virginia using the last 2 morning draws.

+0000 806.3

+1111 1917.3

+2222 3028.3

+3333 4139.3

+4444 5250.3

+5555 6361.3

+6666 7472.3

+7777 8583.3

+8888 9694.3

+9999 10805.3

Reply #255

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 03:31:43 GMT

Kola Pi

North Carolina using the last 2 morning draws 7560 and 5151.

+0000 851.2

+1111 1962.2

+2222 3073.2

+3333 4184.2

+4444 5295.2

+5555 6406.2

+6666 7517.2

+7777 8628.2

+8888 9739.2

+9999 10850.2

Reply #254

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 03:25:26 GMT

New York using the evening draw 4389 as the last draw and 3393.

+0000 619.3

+1111 1730.3

+2222 2841.3

+3333 3952.3

+4444 5063.3

+5555 6174.3

+6666 7285.3

+7777 8396.3

+8888 9507.3

+9999 10618.3

Reply #253

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 03:20:51 GMT

Florida using morning and evening draws. 8603 tier 3, 2879 tier 1.

+0000 962.8

+1111 2073.8

+2222 3184.8

+3333 4295.8

+4444 5406.8

+5555 6517.8

+6666 7628.8

+7777 8739.8

+8888 9850.8

+9999 10961.8

Reply #252

Texas MadMan — Sat, 12 May 2012 03:16:48 GMT

No problem.

Reply #251

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 03:16:44 GMT

Rings of Pi for Texas

+0000 746.4

+1111 1857.4

+2222 2968.4

+3333 4079.4

+4444 5190.4

+5555 6301.4

+6666 7412.4

+7777 8523.4

+8888 9634.4

+9999 10745.4

Reply #250

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 03:14:40 GMT

Rings of pi for NJ

+0000 416.3

+1111 1527.3

+2222 2638.3

+3333 3749.3

+4444 4860.3

+5555 5971.3

+6666 7082.3

+7777 8193.3

+8888 9304.3

+9999 10415.3

Reply #249

lakerben — Sat, 12 May 2012 03:04:04 GMT

Thanks for all your hard work

Reply #248

CarliG — Sat, 12 May 2012 02:22:16 GMT

Texas

Just FYI

Have done initial testing on this in Florida

and its hitting with a both hit within 3 draws

Gonna back test farther and see if its consistant

Thanks

CarliG

Reply #247

Texas MadMan — Sat, 12 May 2012 01:48:38 GMT

Here's a link to a version of the spreadsheet modified for use with Pick 4 games: https://www.box.com/s/c27e3855821bd1528478

This current version does not include all of the mirror combinations, but I may add them later.

Enjoy!

Please let me know of any errors in the calculations.

Reply #246

Kola — Fri, 11 May 2012 15:12:42 GMT

Thank you Aquarium...

Reply #245

Aquarium — Fri, 11 May 2012 14:03:27 GMT

Hello, kola you are an incredible person, thank you so much for your help again, you are our little angel, always there to support us when its needed.i wish you the best for the awesome work including

Madman as well.

Reply #244

Kola — Fri, 11 May 2012 05:06:11 GMT

Thanks Aquarium! Credit to you for absorbing so quickly and well...

In the Pick 4, there would be 80 circumference constants, because its a larger matrix. Here they are:

1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.

0000 0005 0050 0500 5000 0055 0505 0550 5005 5050 5500 0555 5055 5505 5550 5555

1111 1116 1161 1611 6111 1166 1616 1661 6116 6161 6611 1666 6166 6616 6661 6666

2222 2227 2272 2722 7222 2277 2727 2772 7227 7272 7722 2777 7277 7727 7772 7777

3333

Reply #243

Aquarium — Fri, 11 May 2012 04:11:43 GMT

Pretty good news kola, thanks for checking .you explain in some way that is not dificult to understand, again thanks, by the way i m a little confuse about daily 4's constants, could you please show me the 40 i mean all of them in the same order as daily 3 because i only know the subdivisions from 000 to 999 to daily 4

Reply #242

Kola — Fri, 11 May 2012 03:58:59 GMT

Hello Cuteban25,

Its perfect

Reply #241

Kola — Fri, 11 May 2012 03:41:41 GMT

Daily 4 is perfect Aquarium...

Reply #240

Kola — Fri, 11 May 2012 03:40:01 GMT

Thanks lakerben

Reply #239

Kola — Fri, 11 May 2012 03:39:08 GMT

Excellent Aquarium!

The only thing is that for the Pick 3 list when you wrote:

999-------1050.407 = 060.407.

It should be :

999-------1050.407 = 051.407

Your writing of 060.407 is not wrong per se, especially if its an intentional manipulation.

Reply #238

Kola — Fri, 11 May 2012 03:37:08 GMT

Hello cuteban25,

Its perfect

Reply #237

Aquarium — Fri, 11 May 2012 01:55:47 GMT

Thanks lakerben, very nice of you. What you think about the daily 4 its that right? Please, thanks

Reply #236

lakerben — Thu, 10 May 2012 23:14:25 GMT

Sum 323

Div by 2 161.5

X / PI 51.407

+000 51.4

+005 56.4

+050 101.4

+500 551.4

+555 606.4

+550 601.4

+505 556.4

+055 106.4

+111 162.4

+116 167.4

+161 212.4

+611 662.4

+666 717.4

+661 712.4

+616 667.4

+166 217.4

+222 273.4

+227 278.4

+272 323.4

+722 773.4

+777 828.4

+772 823.4

+727 778.4

+277 328.4

+333 384.4

+338 389.4

+383 434.4

+833 884.4

+8... [ More ]

Reply #235

Aquarium — Thu, 10 May 2012 23:04:12 GMT

Daily three,

Last draw-1985

2nd last-0710

Transformed number not needed, both tier 1

1985+0710=2695

2695/2=1347.5

1347.5/pi(3.14159)=428.922

0000------------428.922

1111------------1539

2222------------2650

3333------------3761

4444------------4872

5555------------5983

6666------------7094

7777------------8205

8888------------9316

9999------------10427=0428.922

Daily3-

Last draw-135(tier1)

Last 2nd-854(tier3)

854-666=188

Reply #234

cuteban25 — Thu, 10 May 2012 19:18:32 GMT

Hi Kola: Please could you tell me what's wrong on this PI math.last draw 471 second 146 convert it to 2nd tier 146+333=479.now total is 950 divide by 2=475.This total divide by 2PI=75.598.It's right?And 000 + 75.5 =075.5 etc,etc.

Reply #233

Kola — Thu, 10 May 2012 15:33:27 GMT

Hello Aquarium,

Yes, cuteban25 made a mistake writing ph instead of Pi. Those other terms you mentioned are not used in this thread, and it would be better if you ask the people in whose threads commonly use those terms within the context of their systems....

The only term I can confidently answer is the question of mirrors .

The mirrors are:

0 = 5

1 = 6

2 = 7

3 = 8

4 = 9

Do a search on 'mirrors' and 'v-tracs', and look at the older posts to get a good bearing on how v... [ More ]

Reply #232

Aquarium — Thu, 10 May 2012 12:57:23 GMT

Soo hp is pi right?and what is the meaning of scoop, key digits or box mirror and shortbox mirror ......pollination number...? Please, thanks

Reply #231

Kola — Thu, 10 May 2012 04:20:21 GMT

Hello cuteban25,

Pi is the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter:

C / D = 3.14159265

Reply #230

cuteban25 — Thu, 10 May 2012 03:56:46 GMT

Whats ph means please.thanks

Reply #229

Kola — Tue, 08 May 2012 17:02:52 GMT

You're welcome Aquarium, and thanks for taking the time to post that kind and generous comment...

Reply #228

Aquarium — Tue, 08 May 2012 16:51:57 GMT

Kola thanks for the information you are a genius

Reply #227

Kola — Tue, 08 May 2012 15:38:32 GMT

Please take note: People who use Open Office Calc. for the Rings of Pi Excel program will usually have problems. The conversions will not be done properly, if at all, and the numerical results you get will be wrong.

Reply #226

Kola — Tue, 08 May 2012 04:48:14 GMT

As far as the RINGS OF PI program is concerned, it tells you to enter the last draw, and then the 2nd to last draw. Well, people are also finding good results by reversing the order and entering the 2nd to last draw in the last draw box , and then entering the last draw in the 2nd to last draw box . Please experiment...

Reply #225

Kola — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:01:40 GMT

Please remember that the only mental manipulation you have to perform with the program's results, is in the case of a 0 or 9. For the 'most' part, Keep it in the back of your mind that they are interchangeable .

So if you see a 303, it can also be a 393; Or vice versa of course.

Reply #224

retxx — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:56:05 GMT

thaks laker ow how do I use the orange column to narrow down my pics.

example here are todays mid draw last and next 192 and 501. how would you play sat game/ thanks

Reply #223

lakerben — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:41:25 GMT

Click on the blue or green box where it says input. Next, you should see a down arrow to the right of the box. Click on that and scroll to the number you need.

Reply #222

retxx — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:31:20 GMT

it say the user has restricted entering values.

Reply #221

lakerben — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:30:52 GMT

Use the scroll down arrow to select the numbers. Its to the right of the input box when you click on it.

Reply #220

retxx — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:27:05 GMT

texas I downloaded it but it will not let me enter any past draws. Why

Reply #219

Texas MadMan — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 05:09:29 GMT

Hmmmm.....seems like I could modify the current spreadsheet for Pick 4. It would take a little time to do that. Maybe this weekend if I can find the time.

Reply #218

rocks242 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:44:20 GMT

hi lakerben could u do me 1 for florida eve cash 3

Reply #217

lakerben — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:39:41 GMT

SOUTH CAROLINA

+000 53.2

+005 58.2

+050 103.2

+500 553.2

+555 608.2

+550 603.2

+505 558.2

+055 108.2

+111 164.2

+116 169.2

+161 214.2

+611 664.2

+666 719.2

+661 714.2

+616 669.2

+166 219.2

+222 275.2

+227 280.2

+272 325.2

+722 775.2

+777 830.2

+772 825.2

+727 780.2

+277 330.2

+333 386.2

+338 391.2

+383 436.2

+833 886.2

+888 941.2

+883 936.2

Reply #216

lakerben — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:04:49 GMT

Thats why I wanted a program. Not enough coffee on that morning. I noticed on backtesting that pairs and triples hit from previous draws calculations. Its probably best to print out the last 5 sheets to keep a record of outputs. And, I like the subtraction rundown very good maybe that and the other formulas could be added at a further date. Thanks again to you and Texasmadman.

Reply #215

lakerben — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:45:54 GMT

Thanks. Its a very nice program thanks to Texasmadman . I like the pull down feature and the programming is very impressive. I have to try your rundown 999- (results) and see how it works.

Reply #214

merdis salley — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:15:08 GMT

What about pick 4, thanks

Reply #213

Kola — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:16:07 GMT

Hello Texas Madman. Again thank you very much for being so generous...

Reply #212

Texas MadMan — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:13:43 GMT

Okay, I have created a Excel spreadsheet based on Kola's system. The spreadsheet was written in Excel 2003, but should work fine with other versions. Here is the link for download:

http://www.box.com/s/94fec31815195792c10c

It is very simple to use (all calculations are automatic):

1) Use the drop down lists to choose the draws you want to work with.

2) The first draw entered ( Enter the last draw ) will be the dominant combo for tier puposes.

3) The calculated combos will appear i... [ More ]

Reply #211

Kola — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:48:14 GMT

Lakerben, I think you will get your wish for a program.There is a member in the LP that just kindly contacted me to let me know he wanted to post an excel file for the Full Rings of Pi System. I gave him my humble thanks and my blessings. I have to thank you too lakerben on behalf of interested LP members for your 'howls in the wilderness ....

Reply #210

Kola — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:33:57 GMT

Hello lakerben,

There was a mistake.

I'm going to write it with a little less shorthand for the benefit of others...

Before I begin...In general, if one wants to explore this system, I strongly recommend one practice and play using it from Midday to Midday or Evening to Evening, because the Rings of Pi formula was built with that relationship in mind...You may see some hits using it from Midday to Evening, because there is a relationship there as well, but the formula operates a little... [ More ]

Reply #209

lakerben — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:34:20 GMT

If I did the procedure correct I took last Saturday's and Fridays draw and added them together since they are in the same tier. I'm still looking for someone to step up and program this system. That will eliminate the mistakes if any.

758

618

1376/2=688.

688/3pi=72.99067 +111 =183.99

294

405

516

627

738

849

960

1071

Well, the next draw was 171 in NM.

Reply #208

lakerben — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 02:29:33 GMT

Upon further testing I used the 049 + 284 =223 lotto math.

223 /1.732= 128.752886 round to 129. I put in a rundownm program and a the next draw(488) hit as a straight!

1 2 9

0 1 8

2 4 2

9 0 7

3 6 5

8 9 6

4 8 8

7 8 5

5 0 1

6 7 4

6 2 4

5 6 3

7 4 7

4 5 2

8 6 0

3 4 1

9 8 3

2 3 0

0 0 6

Reply #207

lakerben — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 02:19:46 GMT

I did a slight twist by incorporating the Kola Spawn method with a pi multiplication. I used some draws from NM from last week to see if pairs are produced by these methods.

049

284=

223 (lotto math) . Then I used 223 {a pi Tier one} times pi and got 700. Then, I put in a rundown program and got a box hit 3 draws later. The draw was 382 on this past Tuesday. Although its not +111 rundown like this thread has shown , its a hit.

7 0 0

Reply #206

lakerben — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:45:28 GMT

Waiting to see if someone will program this system. I'm going to use today for pick 3.

Reply #205

lottoburg — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:08:21 GMT

I will try and thanks

Reply #204

lakerben — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:18:22 GMT

Do the rundown for your state and see if it works for NY. It has hit in NM.

Reply #203

lottoburg — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:22:04 GMT

I want to know who have gotten some winnings from P3/P4 by

using PI system since then? Thanks.

Reply #202

lakerben — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:55:19 GMT

I'm still checking around for someone to program this including the mirror section. Maybe someone in this forum will come forward and make a great program.

Reply #201

lakerben — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:21:24 GMT

I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON Something WITH PI FOR P3.

Reply #200

merdis salley — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:28:32 GMT

Can someone please e-mail me his program easy devil and lite. I have his Duke and Emma lou. I would like to compare his with Lottolaughs using kola system.

Reply #199

Kola — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:10:04 GMT

Wow..This is funny stuff. More sad really... Incredible. My mouth is agape right now. I can't even respond to what you posted. Its a little intense, no? You wrote all that because....? I dunno. Well I see you more clearly now, and what you wrote teaches me about you. Your unkind comments above are trivial to me, and tells me there's something deeper going on with you. May you, during the course of your life, un-root it...Well, I love you anyway, and there nothing you can do about it...Good luck... [ More ]

Reply #198

lotsofwins — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:57:37 GMT

This is getting ridiculous Gary-I myself favor pi and I think that Laker would agree with that, and yes I haven't quite figured out a way to use this system yet without spending alot, why so far I only play on paper, but I noticed that you play in Texas alot, this is the only system that I have seen thus far where the hits are there if you know how to utilize many times straight, not only that but the hit is usually in decimal you use before adding the 111, 222 etc....meaning you don't have to p... [ More ]

Reply #197

garyo1954 — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:58:08 GMT

Fascinating response. A lot of which I agree with. I do make, call them 'biting' comments, I call them acidic, pointed comments. I do that when someone asks for information I just posted. It's the same if your boss or co-worker handed you what you asked for and you said, But what am I supposed to do with this?

Surely you have a job. Unless you are Aaron Donahue. Then even your sister and dad calls you a shiftless bum on the internet.

I haven't mastered forward psychology, so I'll leave th... [ More ]

Reply #196

Kola — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:24:51 GMT

Uh oh, I've seen this drama before, played out on the LP countless times. Well, I willingly plunge into it, and hopefully we can nip it in the bud before it gets to a ridiculous 'back and forth' place.

Okay garyo. I've never attacked anyone on the LP in all my time here. I don't know if that supposed to be reverse psychology or what, because you must realize how disingenuous that comment was...I'm not offended nor threatened by your opinions and comments. I welcome them, so why should I a... [ More ]

Reply #195

dx123 — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:42:19 GMT

In defence of Kola

What exactly are you missing 'garyo' to convert Kola's data into an alogrithm. Never mind expounding on 'your' wants and needs, explain your irrational behaviour to all on the LP, for I have had plenty of ideas that have been converted to programs especially for me, and they have paid out regardless of the DEPTH of UNDERSTANDING. None of them were so adament as you to try and reduce everything to their own whime of disagreement because of this and that in interpreting idea... [ More ]

Reply #194

garyo1954 — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:03:06 GMT

No way would I attempt to code this mess for anybody's use.

THERE ARE TOO MANY IFS, POSSIBLES, COULD BES AND MAYBES IN IT. I've said that countless times.

DX123, she has said she made it up before she posted. She acknowledges she don't use it herself; she hasn't shown any results from testing; she won't answer questions, and then turns it into a personal attack when I call it a mess? LMAO

Read all my posts, I don't say things flippantly without doing a pretty thorough investigation. I c... [ More ]

Reply #193

merdis salley — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:02:16 GMT

Can some give me a copy of this program all of his system are good still using his DUKE.

Reply #192

Kola — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:50:04 GMT

Hello dx123,

Thanks for your comments...

I've read somer's thread and read comments about the nice program garyo built. I also appreciate that he's a really good programmer whose thorough, works quickly, and can offer good insights. And to your point, I also realize that he may feel there's too much data to convert, and to make sense of it may be a little frustrating. That's why I advised him to question me, to separate whats essential from the non-essential, and ascertain the facts, and d... [ More ]

Reply #191

dx123 — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:11:16 GMT

Kola I'll back you on your statements here. There are always new ways to skin a cat. We've seen it!

'garyo' is looking for that magic elusive method to place in a program he can do for anyone here on the LP...he did a very nice compilation for 'somers' a few weeks ago, which I downloaded and still use it daily in my own P3 analysis of hitting the right 3 numbers. I believe him to be a good programmer and that we should use him to his fullest extent. I think he feels there could be too muc... [ More ]

Reply #190

lakerben — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:51:40 GMT

Since I've been on this forum I've learned a lot about the p3, p4 games and the jackpot games. I've been impressed by several intelligent posters: Jade, Paruths,Lottolaughs, Diamondpalace, Destiny, Winsomeloosesum, etc. All these people are on here to help others and thats a good thing. In addition, this thread has broken down the process of looking at the p3,p4 games even more.

It doesn't matter if a person wins with fortune cookies, software , roosters pecking paper , pen and pencil whatev... [ More ]

Reply #189

Kola — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:35:17 GMT

Do you really know of what you speak? Reeeea-lly

There are really good methods and system written by the members of the LP that are buried in the archives. Many of them fundamentally went unnoticed after the usual, mmm, aaah, nice effort . I'm not necessarily putting myself in that class, but I will say, that some people don't realize what they have in front of them, waiting to be taken, more deeply explored and made better. Oh well, the beautiful thing is that no one person has the answer. M... [ More ]

Reply #188

Kola — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:06:32 GMT

I appreciate your comments lakerben...

The only calculation that takes the most time is the simple wrapdown.

Reply #187

Kola — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:02:48 GMT

Hello kellmellus55,

I'm familiar with Sfilppo program. If it were the same as this system, I wouldn't have created it. I don't know if you got chance to read this thread through, but the way you arrive at X in the Rings of Pi, and then put it in the formula and do a wrap-down of the resulting draw is not in the Sfilppo program...

Reply #186

Kola — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:50:53 GMT

Wow. You sound a bit persnickety, even a little angry. I don't know why. Please don't me let stress you...for whatever reason. Its not worth it. Again, I don't know why you're angry or pissed or whatever. Even in one of your earliest posts in this thread, you overtly challenging me to think well on my system, because you said, as per your questions about it, they will get harder . WHAT IS THAT?!

I told you that this wasn't a contest, and that questions were a great thing for the good of impro... [ More ]

Reply #185

garyo1954 — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:22:20 GMT

NEWFLASH:

Faster calculations won't help.

Reply #184

lakerben — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:34:23 GMT

Well this system has already hit more than once in NM and it isn't necessary to buy more than 10 tickets. I try and compare due pairs from the last 10-15 draws along with hot pairs with this system. As far as NM goes I think this system is more complete in the range of numbers you can pick. The only problem is is that no one has programmed it for faster calculations . This is a shame because with the rings and mirrors this could prove to be one of the best systems out there. Hopefully someone wi... [ More ]

Reply #183

garyo1954 — Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:57:04 GMT

His was just as good and a LOT CHEAPER than this mess.

Look at what you have here in simple terms. After all the annoying calculations, you have 4 formulas resulting in 36 combinations. And then you break those combinations into threes passed the decimal point. The smallest set you have shown to play from any single result is three combinations like 408 726 891.......

So now you have 36 results times three decimal breakdowns.......or 108 combinations to play.

Let's do that again........ [ More ]

Reply #182

lakerben — Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:56:41 GMT

His were x/pi+666, x/pi-666, x+666/pi and x-666/pi.

Reply #181

kellmellus55 — Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:22:11 GMT

Back in 2007 Sfilppo made an easy devil program which did the 4- PI calculations some people still have a copy.

Reply #180

lakerben — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:56:11 GMT

I'm trying something for tonight. Instead of using pi for the divisor I used 1.73.

last draw 232

Tuesday night 034

76.8786

187

298

409

520

631

742

853

964

1075

Reply #179

lakerben — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:41:43 GMT

Good idea. Thanks for the thread and I'll wait and see what you have next. NM p3 runs in streaks of repeat pairs. Sometimes the next draw or within the last 10.

Reply #178

Kola — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:23:55 GMT

Hello again lakerben. The next draw result from using 408 and 034 was 232. If you choose to explore this system further, I hope that when you get a draw like 232, that you go back and look at your list of 9 to figure out if there was any way you could have glimpsed which numbers to focus on. For instance, you could have focused on the 239 in the list. Ask yourself, how would have known to lean toward it? You continue work hard on that question, for any system, and who knows, you just may be able... [ More ]

Reply #177

Kola — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:56:07 GMT

Hello lakerben, its correct. I thank you for keeping the thread alive, but you don't have to post your numbers any more, for you have the hang of it now... I will start another thread where'll I'll post the system clearly and succinctly, along with a few new tips about playing the numbers. As for this thread, we can let it die and bury itself in the archives..Thanks again...

Reply #176

lakerben — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:35:38 GMT

232

034

42.33521486+111=153.3352

264

375

486

597

708

819

930

1041

Reply #175

Kola — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:03:27 GMT

I posted four PI formulas on page 1. Up until now, the first formula is the only that has been used with the examples on this thread... All of the other formulas are valid too and playing with them may be very worthwhile. While working with 1 formula gives you 9 numbers, working with all 4 will give you 36 numbers, if there are no duplicates For some, 36 may not be too many numbers, if it allows you to hit most of the draws with good profit. Happy Explorations....

Reply #174

Kola — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:46:25 GMT

Its perfect lakerben.

Reply #173

lakerben — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:41:22 GMT

034

408

=17.3478888

+111=128.347888

239

350

461

572

683

794

905

1016

Reply #172

Kola — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:04:04 GMT

Hello dx123,

Its been a little while. Nice of you to chime in from the castle wing you've since taken over... . Thanks for the kind and generous words...Coming from you its a boon...Yes, balance is the key. I don't use this system at all, but it has good viability with balance being the center through and upon which everything TURNS...

Thanks again friend,

Kola

Reply #171

Kola — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:42:32 GMT

Thanks integralsum, you're not taking over at all, and I welcome your contribution...

I appreciate that you wanted to simplify the whole process, but its different to what I posted, which is fine if you wanted to tweak the Rings of Pi to better serve how you see the the Pick 3.

In the Rings of Pi system, you have to use two draws or more and synchronize them with the tiers....Crudely put, this insures that both draws are linked together, and creates the contextual matrix to find the find t... [ More ]

Reply #170

dx123 — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:30:14 GMT

Hello Kola WOW what a well thought out wonderful system you have invented. I've read the posts and had to tell you that more than likely you have made a portion of the P3 castle walls crumble, unless of course you are on the top rung of the ladder looking over the castle walls to get a good look around. Good features and well rounded with a mature sense of Pi use in 3 discernable issues [RINGS] all in balance. A worthwhile goal to realize the wins-take care.

CONGRATS TO YOU.

yt

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