Random

Reply #32

Lucky Loser — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 02:44:56 GMT

RL, I definitely agree with most of what you've said here, but the one part I disagree on is the assessment of luck. Regarding these Pick games, when a person goes out and buys several QP's or marks off a few numbers on a ticket and wins, this is pure unadulterated luck. Why? Because that person cannot go back the next day, or, even the very next draw and duplicate that same win with the same approach. I consider these types of wins random wins or luck -based wins which is all fine and dandy. Ho... [ More ]

Reply #31

SergeM — Sun, 04 Mar 2012 16:20:49 GMT

With what you wrote, you can calculate more. See expectancy

Reply #30

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 19:26:57 GMT

I have to take another poke at this. Most here know I don't believe in random or luck.

Sufficiently random is about as close as we can get to random and the only random

event that makes sence is if something appeared from nowhere. Lets say that we could

build a impregnable cube that had all the empty space in each atom removed. If something

suddenly came to exist within this cube that would in my opinion be a random event. Some

think that the universe came from nothing and from no... [ More ]

Reply #29

kyokushin187 — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:53:03 GMT

the supercomputer computes data(being all the number combinations and replay numbers that have been played). which takes away the random aspect of the lottery. have you ever wondered why you cannot purchase tickets a half an hour before the drawing.

Reply #28

JADELottery — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:11:33 GMT

Here's a hint by example: Once you've selected a number, it's no longer random.

Reply #27

lottoguru$-!624 — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:31:38 GMT

how is the SuperC utlized in a drawing? what is the superC computing. If it is a mechanical drawing, then where would the computing be involved?? What is the SuperC changing to affect randomness

Reply #26

kyokushin187 — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 13:02:37 GMT

the supercomputer the lottery use has memory.which makes it not random. that pretty much makes it not random,trust me they know what numbers are played and how frequent,especially if u use the replay option.

Reply #25

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 07:35:04 GMT

Random and the lottery. Most lotteries have a fixed number of combinations that can

be drawn and this does not change unless the matrix is changed. I can predict many

aspects of lottery with 100% certainty. In a 5-39 game I can predict that five numbers

will be drawn, I could also win the lottery every time I play if I buy out the combinations.

I can also predict that 34 numbers will not be drawn. The next set of balls seems to be

random but if all the variables could be calculate... [ More ]

Reply #24

THRIFTY — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 21:36:02 GMT

It does not happen whenever I buy a single line quick pick on mega millions or powerball. They have many random numbers generators online for free, I just prefer the lottery machines quick picks because 70 to 80% of jackpots have been won with quick pick tickets here in the USA. Thanks anyway and Good Luck.

Reply #23

SergeM — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 21:14:37 GMT

If you have Excel, you can use the random function and make your own quick pick.

Reply #22

THRIFTY — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 20:54:30 GMT

UNEXPECTED.

How about this for random?

A) 14, 16, 23, 30, 45

B) 14, 19, 28, 40, 51

I get the first digit repeated almost every time I buy 2 Quick Pick Tickets on Mega millions and Powerball. It has been so frustrating that I have decided to buy a single line quick pick or self pick to avoid this. I have also decided not to buy multiple quick picks to avoid the repeated numbers.

Reply #21

New York — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 23:11:23 GMT

Random is what you don't expect, lol. For example:

Mature Audiences only lmao.

Reply #20

SergeM — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 23:02:43 GMT

I was spinning that mean ball for one year.

Reply #19

Jack-C — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:53:50 GMT

Random is when the next outcome can not with certainty be predicted by looking at past results.

Reply #18

Coin Toss — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:48:36 GMT

SergeM,

All said, the ping pong balls still don't remember anything. They have no hard disk, no RAM and no brein.

Cards, dice, and roullete balls have eyes, ears, and no heart.

Las Vegas saying

We can add lottery balls to that. In other words, they see and hear what you bet and make sure irt doesn't hit.

Reply #17

SergeM — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:45:18 GMT

When the balls are used, probably even before, they will be replaced, you know that.

P(1) = .5

P(0) = .5

Ω = {0;1} p()=1

I did the math and the simulations for coinflips. I didn't stop with 1000 flips but I pushed it to 10000 and more.

In the same way I analysed keno, lotto and pick3 on real drawings.

If you speak memory = declaration and definition, okay, then say so.

Reply #16

BlueDuck — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:30:37 GMT

SergeM

All said, the ping pong balls still don't remember anything . Agree. They have no conscious memory. They do have physical memory, meaning their physical properties change the more they are used.

Does a penny have memory ? I think the answer is yes . The image stamped on the front or back of a penny is just as much a memory as a 1 or 0 stored as a information in an EPROM or Computer.

BlueDuck

Reply #15

SergeM — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:11:24 GMT

All said, the ping pong balls still don't remember anything. They have no hard disk, no RAM and no brein.

It is not possible to calculate by physics which balls will be drawn, as a computer is getting lost afte x milliseconds.

A computer can't calculate it, maybe it will be able to do calculate it in 1000 years with a pentium5000.

Mentionning table tennis you forgot to describe the qualities of the table.

After that, will you ask the quality of the rackets and the players

Reply #14

BlueDuck — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:59:28 GMT

If the balls had no memory then every draw would have the same results ShotokanWizard

lf the balls had/have no memory then they wouldn't care what happens to them next and most draws would be different and a very few draws would have the same result BlueDuck

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I would probably just do it without any emotional predispositions whatsoever Rdgrnr

OK. Ping Pong Balls used as Lottery Balls do have a physical memory:

The ping... [ More ]

Reply #13

lottoguru$-!624 — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:36:55 GMT

You say the balls are not alive...but is a rock alive?

If you ask a great jedi master such as yoda he would say, the force flows through the rock, and the tree, the sky and the earth, are not the balls privy to the force also???

Use the force duck.

Reply #12

SergeM — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:51:36 GMT

In a lottery game more than one number is drawn, so the numbers tend to show up more frequently,

the maximum of games out is smaller.

Playing roulette is like guessing a bonus ball out of 37.

Reply #11

ShotokanWizard — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:31:27 GMT

it could have an edge...although the edge is so far away...it would not matter if it was 1000 or 100000 light years away...we are constricted to this planet...only our consciousness can extend to the edge...and as atoms and electrons and quarks...maybe the balls are conscious of the edge.

maybe the edge can expand or contract...maybe there is an edge that if need be can stretch two feet... or contract two feet...it would have no affect really on earth...or would it...

a big bang theory wou... [ More ]

Reply #10

BlueDuck — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:33:05 GMT

ShotokanWizard:

The balls have no memory because they are not alive. I can't be sure what God has his eye on. Thanks for

keeping your eye on the balls. If the balls had/have no memory than they wouldn't care what happens to them next

and most draws would be different and a very few draws would have the same result. Every ball in the machine is

connected by small forces of gravity. No jealously involved. Everything is connected everywhere .....throughout the

universe that has no... [ More ]

Reply #9

ShotokanWizard — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:43:36 GMT

how can you be so sure the balls have no memory? how can you be so sure what God has his eye on? If i have my eye on the balls than surely god has his eye on the balls too.

if the balls had no memory then every draw would have the same result. Every ball in the machine is intimately connected with one another and maybe they get jealous of one another. Everything is connected everywhere... all the way to the edge of the universe.

Reply #8

rdgrnr — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:32:08 GMT

I wouldn't exactly say I'd like to define random.

I'm far too detached and disinterested.

And that's not to say I would hate to define it either.

I would probably just do it without any emotional predisposition whatsoever.

Reply #7

Coin Toss — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:24:42 GMT

All that has been said thus far plus this:

Willie had some bets he had to get into the book and Jackson random for him.

Reply #6

BlueDuck — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 05:47:55 GMT

Every lottery game will play all the numbers after so many plays. It may be as few as 7 draws in a 5/31 game or it

may take a 100 draws for all numbers to repeat just once. The average time for a complete repeat of all numbers

in 5/31 game is probably much closer to 30 days than 100 days. Why should it be this way? What determines the

average? The balls have no memory. God has better things to do than keep his eye on bouncing balls. The answer

must be in the physical make up of a... [ More ]

Reply #5

SergeM — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:06:22 GMT

I think that all lotteries test their machines before the official drawing. They publish the predrawings in Texas. I know somebody playing there. They also anounce the set of balls that they are using.

The local lottery here in Belgium does one test drawing and they don't tell you which set they will use. The test drawing is not published.

I don't know anyone playing pick 3. I analysed it here using VBA Excel. The best that I could do in simulation was break even, with a daily 40 or... [ More ]

Reply #4

Lucky Loser — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:05:23 GMT

Having no specific pattern, purpose, or objective. In my proffessional opinion, Pick 3/4 games aren't truly random at all. To qualify as being completely random, they should simply start the machine and use the numbers on the very first draw as official numbers. This is random. Juggling and tearing up the machines for up to (5) pre-draws is senseless to me. However, they do this for a reason...and it's to their advantage if a player isn't paying attention and spending their money right.

Texas... [ More ]

Reply #3

loonasee2 — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:55:52 GMT

I ask New York lottery that very same question.lol So I have to hope I don't ever suffer from POST RANDOM DEPRESSION .lol Here in NY we have are doubts between post drawing or random draws.Nothing is really random anyways , everything happens for a reason.We just have to figure out the right reason picking are numbers. GOOD LUCK ,.........SergeM ,................Welcome to LP ,.........WIN BIG.

Reply #2

mcginnin56 — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:47:06 GMT

Without any pre-determined direction, purpose or method.

Reply #1

JADELottery — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:43:28 GMT

Random is as Random does.

Random

SergeM — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:37:29 GMT

Would anyone like to define random