To Define a Great System

Reply #39

chrissy16 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:56:11 GMT

Yes

Reply #38

trap574 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:39:54 GMT

I voted 4 now the trick is to be on it HEAVY when it hits,sometimes all I do is paperplay and when it feels right Ill throw a big bet in,trouble is you cant let it get you down when you miss or hit when your on them light. Sitting out you have to exspect to miss some,bigest bummer is when you hit,say fifty cent bx.on a number you played 10str. Three out of four for days on end gets old too,just have to shake it off and stay positive GL

Reply #37

manual — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:36:13 GMT

Is this a system you might share

Reply #36

THRIFTY — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:06:32 GMT

Buying more lottery tickets to increase your chances of winning will make your dream come true.

Don't be a cheapskate.

Reply #35

rdgrnr — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:54:20 GMT

Reply #34

chrissy16 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:49:53 GMT

I just want to say, I've been working on a system and its looking fairly good. Last month, I got 10 hits out of the 60 drawings but since the last two days of November, I've changed the method and got a hit fairly easy. So I started to wonder, if I have done this method at the beginning of the month how different might the outcome have been. Anyways, I was just tweaking the system to make sure I get hits, with respect to cost something I CONTROL, I will just feel in the blanks to maximize profit... [ More ]

Reply #33

CajunWin4 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:13:03 GMT

A Great System/Method or Process is one that Wins consistently in game play . The system must be able to show a Play or No Play on all games . Minimum sets/combinations for games is needed be it for Daily games ( 10 to 18 sets/combinations ) or Jackpot game ( 8 to 30 Lines/Combinations ) . It not 1 system you will need 2 , 3 or 4 systems/methods/process intergrated to use for game play ..

Reply #32

THRIFTY — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:47:11 GMT

Little mouse hates to eat the big cheese.

Reply #31

manual — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 21:06:24 GMT

This is interesting, using that system, I got a key of 744 (based on 10/1 Mid and Eve). The next draw was 384. That would've won with 1-off (but a pretty small payout). Looking at a +1 or -1 of the numbers, paired with numbers that have hit between 9/20 and 9/30. That gives me these sets:

#7 and #8 both hit six times in the past ten days. But #6 only hit two times. If we're going by popular hits, #7 and #8 are good choices.

#4 only hit four times. #5 hit six times. #3 hit 11 times. So for... [ More ]

Reply #30

manual — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:00:57 GMT

Did some quick variant testing for FL Cash 3. Variants seem to differ as much as the number themselves. Even looking at them by date doesn't show any sort of pattern. Here's the result set for October 2012.

Date Draw Time Pick 1 Pick 2 Pick 3 Pick 1 Out Pick 2 Out Pick 3 Out Pick 1 Variant Pick 2 Variant Pick 3 Variant Total Sum Number of Odds

10/1/12 Mid 9 7 3 0 6 10 0 6 2 19 3

10/1/12 Eve 4 0 7 3 4 0 -5 -7 4 11 1

10/2/12 Mid 2 2 8 4 4 4 -2 2 1 12 0

10/2/12 Eve 0 0... [ More ]

Reply #29

jimmy4164 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:23:01 GMT

Here is an example of what I strongly suspect you are going to find, no matter what Pick-3 system you model:

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/220106

Reply #28

manual — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:17:13 GMT

That's not quite what I meant. It's gambling, no way around that. But, if there's a system that hits 30% of the time, I'd love to take a crack and coding it. Not for the sake of making a living. I'm just a programmer so that's my thing.

Reply #27

RJOh — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:37:08 GMT

Is such a system mathematically possible? I would think the games designers did the math and set the odds and payouts such that no one could depend on the game to make a living or the game would be doomed to fail from the start.

Reply #26

rdgrnr — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:34:42 GMT

You'll have to refresh my memory on that one, jimmy.

I don't recall any lottery nazis.

Reply #25

RJOh — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:27:50 GMT

If just winning something regardless of cost is the objective then any system that plays all the bonus numbers in games like PB and MM will be a real winner.

Reply #24

manual — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:54:13 GMT

IMHO, my idea of a good system is based on cost alone. Wager $100 and make $150, it's a good system. The idea is for it to be a plus (overall) with enough of a gain to make it worth the time spent. Finding such a system, however, is elusive. I'm currently trying to find a system or model that I can program out and add to my website. Systems may have to be combined to make it useful. The idea is to have the final picks all generated by code so it doesn't have to be done by hand for every draw. Ma... [ More ]

Reply #23

Ronnie316 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:15:37 GMT

I say wheel the field, and forget about it.......

Reply #22

taiwanlottery — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:11:14 GMT

Hey Chrissy,

yes, without taking cost into concideration, i dont think we can judge what a good system would be. That being said, any system that can make a profit every month, no matter how many hits, i would concider fantastic .

Reply #21

jimmy4164 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:58:44 GMT

Have you made any headway with the Lottery Nazis since we last chatted

Reply #20

chrissy16 — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:50:03 GMT

I know cost play's a huge factor, I was just generally curious as to what other LP members thought. I just wanted to know how many hits in a given month, would be okay for most players. Maybe I just cant seem to articulate what I am trying say that well. Personally, I think 10 hits is good.

Reply #19

rdgrnr — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:53:14 GMT

Nancy!

How ya doin' numbnuts?

Must be better than a year, princess!

I think I vaguely recall our last conversation... hmmm... https://www.lotterypost.com/news/235851/2188385

Reply #18

jimmy4164 — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:05:53 GMT

Good point Lucky. I think you might enjoy the book discussed here...

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/231788/2066684

Reply #17

rdgrnr — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:25:22 GMT

Case in point.

Reply #16

Lucky Loser — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:15:01 GMT

Let's look at it this way. If a player runs out and plays their numbers for (5) days straight and obtains no hits. Then, on the sixth day, they run another set of numbers and finally hits but, the amount won doesn't fully recover what's been spent in the DURATION of five days worth of playing. Does this make it a good system? Or no?

A hit must be associated with cost and recovery somewhere along the way, or, the player is just losing. If they land a hit which get's their money back and there... [ More ]

Reply #15

rdgrnr — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:09:53 GMT

No, nothing personal, Loser.

I've never had much use for charlatans, phonies, blowhards, blabbermouths, posers and long-winded gasbags in general.

You just happen to be one of 'em.

Reply #14

rdgrnr — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:04:28 GMT

Exactly.

Reply #13

Lucky Loser — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:02:32 GMT

Ridge, optimized timing means playing on combinations which have better odds of producing the type of hit you're looking for, okay. It's very similar to what Ronnie316 discusses in his thread....high/low and odd/even...etc. You seem to enjoy trying to discount my analysis of numerical approaches and I'm not sure why. rcbuckeye just said essentially the same thing I did and, in fact, used the same terminologies but, no back lashes for him though right?

To even remotely attempt discussing hits... [ More ]

Reply #12

RJOh — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:59:36 GMT

If cost isn't a factor then any hits at all makes it a nice system.

Reply #11

Lucky Loser — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:49:43 GMT

Excellent answer...and I see here that you utilize the key words which are IMPERATIVE to being successful in both these games: RECOVER, COST, PROFIT...and in that order. I ALWAYS use those terms because they're RELEVANT to hits. It's impossible to discuss hits without including cost and system efficiency...it's all part of the recipe. I have never discussed producing hits without an associated cost...and never will because it will become very misleading. Not sure why she was looking for such a b... [ More ]

Reply #10

rdgrnr — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:45:47 GMT

LOL, you're lucky he didn't give you his usual doctoral thesis, Chrissy.

You'll never see anybody use so many words to say nothing.

Optimized timing, LMAO

Reply #9

rcbbuckeye — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:31:47 GMT

For me, I only play this game for straight hits. I feel if I'm going to play boxed, I might as well play Pick 3 straight...the payouts are not exactly the same, but close. I play 1 number, usually for a dollar, sometimes 2 dollars, sometimes 5 dollars. I look at the cost and payout like this. In Texas, there are 626 draws each year. Playing 1 dollar each draw is $626. A straight on $1 pays $5000. You can play for almost 8 years to recover what you spend to hit straight. After that, you nned to d... [ More ]

Reply #8

Lucky Loser — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:17:44 GMT

Okay, I'll let someone else take a shot at it. Sorry to have wasted your time here, okay.

L.L.

Reply #7

chrissy16 — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:41:44 GMT

This shouldn't be that complex. I simply asked, how many hits on average in a month will it take for you to say you have a nice system. NOT TO FACTOR IN COST. Seems like you made this complex with your optimized timing .

Reply #6

chrissy16 — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:37:56 GMT

Reply #5

rdgrnr — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 03:41:47 GMT

The Professor Speaks! Is everybody listening?

Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh...

OK now Professor, back to the kitchen, your Ramen Noodles are boiling

Reply #4

bobby623 — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 15:43:05 GMT

Your poll should be in two parts, prediction system and personal workout, or something similar.

I have a personal workout. I recently won $2700 with a straight combination that I constructed using tracking data generated using

game history.

I've missed winning straights twice because I was cheap and played Box.

I've won $100 several times past year.

So, I say my methods are superior because I'm winning - not every draw, but often enough to make the

work worthwhile.

I'v... [ More ]

Reply #3

Lucky Loser — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:31:09 GMT

In my opinion, this is a very complex question to answer without factoring in cost. Total number combinations and money go hand in hand...and ultimately determine just how efficient a system is. Those two, along with optimized timing and available opportunities, will produce more wins and should keep you in the green. Personally, I rate my system efficiency on a weekly basis.

L.L.

Reply #2

WaLottoDude — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 04:10:18 GMT

I'm pretty sure to develop a system you don't need to spend any money. Just make your choices and see what the outcomes are every drawing. Only when you're confident should money be involved... Or feel like gambling

Reply #1

rdgrnr — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 03:31:07 GMT

If I won a Pick4 Str8 once in my life I'd be happy as a fat rat in a cheese house.

To Define a Great System

chrissy16 — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 03:22:49 GMT

LP need your help. I am trying to figure out the consensus amongst Pick 4 players in how they would define a Pick 4 system based on hits produced.

So, my question goes a little like this, regardless of amounts wagered, (meaning don't factor in cost) how many hits will it take for you in a given month for you to define a system as good?.

A simple vote should suffice.

Thanks in advance.