How many V-tracks?

Reply #63

SergeM — Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:23:17 GMT

Are there any suggestions for the sequences

Reply #62

SergeM — Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:08:26 GMT

BY ORDER ASC

01-23-45-67-89

01-23-45-68-79

01-23-45-69-78

...

The count matches with my mathematical formula.

I extend the algorithm.

Reply #61

SergeM — Tue, 01 Jan 2013 12:40:05 GMT

Not continuing only on the Vtrac system with mod 5, I am composing all possible combinations of distinct groups with two elements. On the first run I have 1467 possible sets. That would be 1466 sets different to the vtracs. I will check later on eventual doubles, which I wouldn't have calculated, as I did my preparation with brain, pen and paper. What a puzzle, but more fun than soduko solving!

With refiltering I get 945 possible distinct sets. That might be it. Anyone else having the same re... [ More ]

Reply #60

garyo1954 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:50:04 GMT

Been there, done that; wrote the chart.

Be more than happy to see how you worked this out if you have anything new.

G

Reply #59

dr san — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:48:54 GMT

Hello, garyo, a lottery 49/6, we have 15 positions and not 12

Look = 1.2 1.3 .... ate = 5.6 are 15 positions

As for the odds, garyo, you are esquendo the 1st position vai 01-22 in 98% of pairings, and so each position there is a diagonal probabilities at each position, the better, look at the number 49, a lottery 49 / 6 the number 49 can only appear

At the 6th or last position, the initial digit vai 0-4 shot is short, you can see by position

The last digit can be done by two vtrac or... [ More ]

Reply #58

garyo1954 — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:34:05 GMT

Been busy with other stuff.

Think we have been through this. I've posted charts of every pair and triple and the positions they hit in last year/maybe early this year in another thread for the Cash 5/39 games. Most, if not all, those programs were lost when the old Compaq went south.

No promises, but if I find all the code snippets, I'll put it back together.

Using digits for Vtracs in each position of a jackpot game won't make it easier. It's a complicated process to understand, but..... [ More ]

Reply #57

SergeM — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:17:26 GMT

Hello sandr I mentioned that can only winning six the digits a of lottery thin 49/6 can do if vtrac like tow pick 3 easy richt prediction two times better than prediction vtrac success.

Reply #56

dr san — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:48:32 GMT

Hello, sergem I mentioned that one can only separating the six digits of a lottery thin 49/6 can use two vtrac like two pick3 is easy

Reply #55

SergeM — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:53:15 GMT

You seem not to get the point. I have programmed all this, only don't commercialize it.

The point is to make a selection that wins more than twice above the odds.

Sergem improving the system for vtrac pick3 can use, ok

What kind of gibberish nonsense dialect is this

Reply #54

dr san — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:43:14 GMT

Hello, sergem, vtrac on your fundamentals, makes sense, with the goal of improving the vtrac pick3,

Sergem, can also be in the 49/6 to do so separate the digits starting with the final digits

And make vtrac two terminations or final digit 0-9

Example of a draw = 02,13,16,25,36,47

Final digit = 2,3,6,5,6,7

Making two vtrac like two pick3

1st vtrac = 2,3,6

2nd vtrac = 5,6,7

The digit span forward 0-4 REMAIN OUTSIDE of the study will be randomly placed, because they go up to... [ More ]

Reply #53

SergeM — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:42:21 GMT

@student san

Analysing is not the problem, that is something that a programmer can do.

Decision making is the critical point!

I started the thread knowing all versions of v-tracs.

The goals is to beat the odds by more than twice.

I am still waiting for the right comments.

Reply #52

dr san — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:38:53 GMT

Hello, garyo, you can do this acompamento graphic or pairs, trios and blocks, the 49/6? It would be nice, but GARYO1954, we have a problem = Houston we have a problem

It is at par positional pairs in a 49/6 have 15 positions = 1.2, 1.4, ..... ate = 5.6 are 15 positions pairs, the goal is to see couples in their positions masior likely means

Oh yes will be very good! So with blocks trios, trios has 20 positions, based on the first pivot or sweepstakes on a list to a jump of repeating a trio... [ More ]

Reply #51

garyo1954 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:41:35 GMT

Okay, my misunderstanding.

First thing, I quoted Todd. I agree with Todd. I apologize if it was unclear.

Just a few thoughts that might help:

The reason Vtracs are an excellent means for Pick 3 is the wealth of data available to make predictions. A pick 3 game, drawn 1 time a day/6 days a week will produce 3130 draws over ten years (3 times the amount of the total matrix). A 6/49 drawn 2 times a week will produce 1040 draws over ten years (a very, very small fraction of the entire matr... [ More ]

Reply #50

SergeM — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 18:11:06 GMT

96 or 64 combinations to play.

Reply #49

dr san — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:45:15 GMT

Hello, garyo a vtrac to 49/6 you get to ride in excel?

Then will be reduced to 24 vtrac, where pairs are used

Example 1 will be vtrac pairs 01.25

Vtrac 2 = 02,06, the last vtrac have 3 numbers because we have 49 numbers

Is that done after the planilia you can play the 24 vtrac prediction of jade, ie the forecast is vtrac, then just convert,

Reply #48

garyo1954 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 04:01:36 GMT

Hard thread to follow. I read it six/seven times trying to determine exactly what your point you trying to make. A lot of confusion stems from jumping between your personal observations on terminology, usage, and jumping over to discuss Vtracs for the larger jackpot games with no seque.

Vtracs are not that hard.

Simplest way I have found to do Vtracs is is right there. The Vsum will tell you a lot. In the Texas night game, 4 out of every 6 drawings fall in the 7 to 11 range... [ More ]

Reply #47

SergeM — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:23:03 GMT

Criticism is healthy, don't you agree?

If there is gibberish then it is so, and scam, yes there is some and the first people to suffer are the ignorants.

Reply #46

Todd — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:49:52 GMT

You said that it is LP gibberish , so I was trying to understand what you meant by that.

Also, it is not a scam to talk about only the numbers. Everybody has their own style, and it's best not to judge others just because they are not focused on wagers/payouts. It's like the boring old complaints about people who supposedly post too many numbers . In that case, the person making the complaint is the ignorant one, because they don't understand WHY some people post larger sets of numbers.

So... [ More ]

Reply #45

SergeM — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:38:32 GMT

I mean the little nonsense talks about odds, not even involving the payouts in the calculations, general talk in scam style.

Sure, you read all that.

Reply #44

LottoBoner — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 05:18:42 GMT

Pretty colors

Reply #43

LottoBoner — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 05:16:27 GMT

The point is to find what the future outcome will be!

I think maybe you should talk to Doc Brown and see if maybe he will lend you his DeLorean.

Reply #42

Todd — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 05:01:26 GMT

Maybe you can explain what LP gibberish is.

I do hear gibberish, but I don't think it has anything to do with LP .

Reply #41

SergeM — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 22:41:57 GMT

There are many ways to compose such vtracs. You propose to follow one and be happy. I won't get stuck to one or two and am busy putting together the pieces.

The main point after defining your vtrac is to analyse how to apply. That is where the system really plays. It is all about taking decisions. It is obvious in a game like roulette that you can reduce 37 straight bets to 6 or 7 bets, or even 3 bets. That is not the point! The point is to find what the future outcome will be! With a rounded... [ More ]

Reply #40

SergeM — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 21:18:14 GMT

As I'm busy learning SQL, I created a decode function in Excel. It just fit in the concept.

Reply #39

SergeM — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 21:16:35 GMT

12 is not in any array. Decode allows non mathematical v's.

Reply #38

SergeM — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 21:13:51 GMT

Sticking to the subject. P3 numbers to Vi by function in Excel.

Reply #37

SergeM — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:01:30 GMT

Using the standard, I could make a vtrac for 12 out of 24. 4096 combinations pure and simple.

It starts with:

1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12

1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+24

1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+12+23

1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+23+24

1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+11+12+22

...

Reply #36

Stack47 — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:41:19 GMT

I don't think it's necessary to explain all the ways V-tracks analyzing could be used. For pick-3 tracking it could be used reduce tracking 1000 combos to just 125. The standard 0-5, 1-6, etc. can be changed too for different types of analyzing. I wouldn't call it the tool, but it could be very useful tool.

Reply #35

SergeM — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:36:56 GMT

My reasonning is different.

Reply #34

Todd — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 23:04:32 GMT

I'm not sure what you're saying, but the definition I posted is very clear.

Reply #33

SergeM — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:32:55 GMT

-1 -1 -1

1 1 1 0 0 0 0-0-0, 0-0-5, 0-5-0, 0-5-5, 5-0-0, 5-0-5, 5-5-0, 5-5-5

1 1 2 0 0 1 0-0-1, 0-0-6, 0-5-1, 0-5-6, 5-0-1, 5-0-6, 5-5-1, 5-5-6

1 1 3 0 0 2 0-0-2, 0-0-7, 0-5-2, 0-5-7, 5-0-2, 5-0-7, 5-5-2, 5-5-7

...

Different author.

Reply #32

SergeM — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:50:43 GMT

V would rather be A for Array I think. A vector is a line from element a to element b. A line by definition is made of points, if I remember well the math classes from back than.

For the tracking, nothing is explained. Groups were made and it stopped there

Reply #31

SergeM — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:54:42 GMT

1+4+12+21+25

1+4+12+21+30

1+4+12+25+26

1+4+12+26+30

1+4+17+21+25

1+4+17+21+30

1+4+17+25+26

1+4+17+26+30

1+9+12+21+25

1+9+12+21+30

1+9+12+25+26

1+9+12+26+30

1+9+17+21+25

1+9+17+21+30

1+9+17+25+26

1+9+17+26+30

4+6+12+21+25

4+6+12+21+30

4+6+12+25+26

4+6+12+26+30

4+6+17+21+25

4+6+17+21+30

4+6+17+25+26

4+6+17+26+30

6+9+12+21+25

6+9+12+21+30

6+9+12+25+26

6+9+12+26+30

Reply #30

SergeM — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:44:20 GMT

TNTEA's groups have each 2 elements, there are no intersections.

A pick 5 with 32 numbers would have 18 groups.

Cost of a game with 5 groups used:

2*2*2*2*2*$bet when 5 different V's are in play.

5 numbers would score with 5 different vectors,

Worst scenario:

5

4

3 16

2 16

1

0

Best scenario:

5 1

4 5

3 10

2 10

1 5

0 1

3 of 10 would score

Worst scenario

5

4

3

2 16

1 16

0... [ More ]

Reply #29

SergeM — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:09:29 GMT

I will program all types that I can define.

In the end I will include mathematical types using functions for the dummy versions.

Reply #28

SergeM — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:55:59 GMT

I wrote a v-track wheeler, base is my first wheel program with VBA.

Vi = set of numbers

A combination of the wheel involves V1 to Vn

Input:

V1: 1 2 3

V2: 3 4

V3: 5 6

Output:

1+3+5

1+3+6

1+4+5

1+4+6

2+3+5

2+3+6

2+4+5

2+4+6

3+4+5

3+4+6

V-track combinations sorted low to high, type lotto here.

The size of the input groups (Vi) does not matter. It is not a dummy V-track.

I will look at the threads later. It took me

Reply #27

Todd — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:26:18 GMT

Here's a link to tntea's blog post containing the VTracs lessons:

https://www.lotterypost.com/blogentry/19716

Reply #26

SergeM — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:16:24 GMT

There is a V-tracking that is for finding bugs.

Reply #25

winsumloosesum — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:17:58 GMT

My mistake it was not Tenaj but Tntea. Just do a search and you will find very nice tutorial's about vtrac. Your correct Todd about Vtrac. It was not vertical tracking but variable tracking.

Reply #24

Todd — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:53:48 GMT

Here's a message posted at LP from Aug. 2001:

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/57212

(Note that at that time there were no user registrations, which is why the messages appear as Guest .)

The eLotteryUniverse group was founded Aug. 2, 2001.

Reply #23

Todd — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:51:21 GMT

From the page at https://www.lotterypost.com/vtracs:

The term VTracs is comprised of V for variable and tracs for tracking. So when you talk about VTracs you're talking about tracking variables.

There is more info available on that page.

Reply #22

winsumloosesum — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:47:08 GMT

VTRAC I believe is short for Vertical Tracking. There was a Yahoo Group called eLotteryuniverse where VTRAC was presented back in 2001. Wow 11 years ago. I'm not sure if it was ever used before in a rec.gambling forum before eLotteryuniverse. I would probably say thay it was. I know there is/was a member here at LP Tenaj that created many threads explianing VTRAC's.

Reply #21

SergeM — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:48:23 GMT

The system names are leading to confusions.

The pick3 data had to be transformed to use this anyway.

Reply #20

SergeM — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:37:50 GMT

Neighbours unfiltered using mod function:

1 1 1 1-1-1, 1-1-2, 1-2-1, 1-2-2, 2-1-1, 2-1-2, 2-2-1, 2-2-2 1-1-1, 1-1-2, 1-1-3, 1-2-1, 1-2-2, 1-2-3, 1-3-1, 1-3-2, 1-3-3, 2-1-1, 2-1-2, 2-1-3, 2-2-1, 2-2-2, 2-2-3, 2-3-1, 2-3-2, 2-3-3, 3-1-1, 3-1-2, 3-1-3, 3-2-1, 3-2-2, 3-2-3, 3-3-1, 3-3-2, 3-3-3

0 0 0 0-0-0, 0-0-1, 0-1-0, 0-1-1, 1-0-0, 1-0-1, 1-1-0, 1-1-1 0-0-0, 0-0-1, 0-0-2, 0-1-0, 0-1-1, 0-1-2, 0-2-0, 0-2-1, 0-2-2, 1-0-0, 1-0-1, 1-0-2, 1-1-0, 1-1-1, 1-1-2, 1-2-0, 1-2-1, 1-2-2, 2-0-0, 2-0-1,... [ More ]

Reply #19

SergeM — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:16:26 GMT

A dummy V-track using a rest after division by 5 for pick-3 types with digits 0 to 9 goes like this for straight betting:

111 becomes

1-1-1, 1-1-6, 1-6-1, 1-6-6, 6-1-1, 6-1-6, 6-6-1, 6-6-6

or 000 becomes

0 0 0 0-0-0, 0-0-5, 0-5-0, 0-5-5, 5-0-0, 5-0-5, 5-5-0, 5-5-5

In that sheet I see:

VTRAC BOXED D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6 D7 D8 P1 P2 P3 O/E O/E O/E SUMS

111 111 000 005 050 055 500 505 550 555 1 1 1 O O O 3 000,005,050,055,500,505,550,555

Different authors,

Reply #18

dr san — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:57:20 GMT

Hello, Winsun, you can create this table for lotteries of 49/6 and 60/6?

Because then you can use what Jade is doing ie a lottery since 49/6, got 24, so then you can use the weather jade, clear vai predict vtrac, well then just convert, eg,

Suppose the matrix jade, predicted the vtrac in positional = 02,15,06,23,19, Exeter is only convert, but I need the table, ok thanks

Reply #17

dr san — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:42:48 GMT

Hello, Winsun, the big advantage is that now a lottery 49/6 was like a 24/6

Then, the average hot and cold, and a myriad of other statistics was from 01 to 24, reducing instead of 49 was 24 in vtrac course, then just convert

Winsu, wanted his opinion on the position, eg,

The vtrac 01 = 01,25, position the number 01 is the 1st position now oo another number in the pair is 25, moves from the 3rd, 4th position, we settle this, perhaps another way to mount the pairs vtrac, putting both figu... [ More ]

Reply #16

dr san — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:15:37 GMT

Hello, Winsun, which I suggested to sergem, is to create vtrac for a 49/6, ie, joining two lottery numbers 49/6, as is done in pick3, so let's stick with 24 groups, let's unite

01, 25, ........ even reach 24 to 48, a vtrac will be 3 numbers to close to 49 numbers, so instead of digits as is done in pick3 we use the numbers from 49/6

Vtrac

01 = 01,25

02 = 02,26

03 = 03,27

04 = 04,28

05 = 05,29

06 = 06,30

07 = 07,31

08 = 08,32

09 = 09,33

10 = 10,34

11 = 11,35... [ More ]

Reply #15

winsumloosesum — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:28:18 GMT

Serge,

Not to sure what exactly you wanted for Pick 3 VTRAC's

There are a total of 125 VTRAC sets AND 35 Boxed sets

Here is an Excel file with all the VTRAC Sets and the corresponding digit sets

https://www.box.com/s/q2szumslq3b1ppuik36i

The formula to convert a digit to VTRAC is the following:

If your position 1 digit number starts in cell K20

Excel formula conversion from digit to VTRAC =MOD(K20,5)+1

VTRAC Conversion for those not familiar with VTRACs. Some call th... [ More ]

Reply #14

dr san — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:50:48 GMT

Ok, sergem, this beautiful blonde woman post!! Woman blonde and beer is my religion as you know it!! Ahhh, the Brazilian deserved a 2nd place!

Sergem = vtrac on the 49/6, is reduced to form pairs,

So, the 1st will be vtrac = 01.25

Vtrac2 = 02.06 ..... 24 48, we have 24 vtrac, course numbers will be 12 then deployed

So all stats go from 01 to 24 who are 24 vtrac possible halving

From 49 to 24, (a vtrac have 3 numbers close to 49

Reply #13

SergeM — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:01:23 GMT

Just wrote the 2 vtrack() functions for Excel. The rest is copy and paste.

Reply #12

SergeM — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:25:27 GMT

Don't ask me about Fishbone, I met so many Hollywood actors in the street that I lost count.

Reply #11

SergeM — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:24:27 GMT

Hello, sergem, miss universe is American, Brazil 5th place

I know a Belgian miss who went to miss universe.

Sergem. I was thinking of creating a vtrac for 49/6

That's crazy.

So vtrac with peers 01 = 01, 25

Vtrac 02 = 02,26 .... until 24.49, a vtrac have 3 numbers

So how do the pick3, do in like manner in a lottery 49/6

You can do in excel? thank you

You could make a combinatorial dummy dummy version for 6/49.

This post has been automatically changed by the Lot... [ More ]

Reply #10

SergeM — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:02:08 GMT

Ah, come on dude, you love blondes! How about a miss Sweden with blue eyes and blond hair holding a mini soccer ball in her hand

Reply #9

Todd — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:46:33 GMT

Vtracs are not something I invented. I programmed them into Lottery Post to help the many people who enjoy using them, and for people who have gotten a good amount of hits using them.

Like any particular system, it doesn't matter if you personally like or dislike them, because every system has people who like it and people who don't.

Instead of posting numerous messages on the forums about how you dislike VTracs, how about you simply avoid any discussion that deals with VTracs, and instead... [ More ]

Reply #8

LottoBoner — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:21:37 GMT

In CYLON VADERS system there are however many,

In my system there is 9 Prime Variables to track. with a potential to add 6 more prime variables, but who has the time?

And maybe 9 secondary variables, such as trend reversals, intermediate skips and flag formations.

Todds VTRAC system is rather confusing to me since I generally suck with mirrors due to my rather limited adding capabilities.

(If I had no fingers and toes I would be screwed!)

Anway, as far as vtracs are concerned I th... [ More ]

Reply #7

dr san — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:49:40 GMT

Hello, sergem, miss universe is American, Brazil 5th place

Sergem. I was thinking of creating a vtrac for 49/6

So vtrac with peers 01 = 01, 25

Vtrac 02 = 02,26 .... until 24.49, a vtrac have 3 numbers

So how do the pick3, do in like manner in a lottery 49/6

You can do in excel? thank you

Reply #6

SergeM — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:12:18 GMT

I don't intend to do the dummy-V-track.

I get 91,125 V-tracks with 2 digits.

Reply #5

SergeM — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:11:22 GMT

I know order and disorder. The word box is confusing for me.

Reply #4

JAP69 — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:03:32 GMT

That is the amount of exact order combination that can be made from the 35 box combinations.

You did not ask in your original question what you wanted. Box or straight.

Seems obvious you already knew the answer.

Reply #3

SergeM — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:58:03 GMT

The dummy-V-track, mod 5, would have 5*5*5=125 cases.

Reply #2

SergeM — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:39:52 GMT

Why 35

Reply #1

JAP69 — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:34:26 GMT

35 v-trac box combos

How many V-tracks?

SergeM — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:21:50 GMT

How many V-tracks are there for a pick 3