if "someone" found a way to beat the lottery wheel-would you label that cheating?

Reply #33

eddessaknight — Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:41:34 GMT

Hey beaudad, et al-

If it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid.

Here @ gamnling ground zero: AN EDGE IS AN EDGE!!!

Besr Wishes for continued good luck

EddessaKnight

Reply #32

beaudad — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:54:02 GMT

I remember a time about 2 months ago when I was at the roulette table.....and a guy came out of nowhere....and started putting chips on the table so random it was annoying........and I lost concentration.....

I read something about people like that about 2 weeks later.........

The next time I was there I got to playing with 2 of my favorite roulette spinners....and both were blonde....and I felt a connection with one of them....and I walked away with a 500 chip.........cool....beaudad

Reply #31

PlayToWin47 — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:09:43 GMT

Since there are supposedly records being kept of anything that you search for on Google ... just for kicks, I'm going to do some searches for time machine parts and time machine repair manual just to add that to my record ... HeeHee!!! ... Gotta mess with the record watchers.

Reply #30

noise-gate — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 04:05:12 GMT

John Titor was suppossedly a time traveler from the year 2036 when there was a war going on in America. He needed a part for his time travel machine and traveled back in time to try and find that part for sale on eBay.

When one has to travel back in time from 2036 to get a part on Ebay for your time machine, it begs the question How did you get back from the future? , and more importantly it tells me that there has to be many time machines under tarps in peoples garages that are no long... [ More ]

Reply #29

Coin Toss — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:02:05 GMT

Holy past posters Batman

Reply #28

Ronnie316 — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:19:06 GMT

Thanks for the cool insights Coin. I always enjoy casino night at the church because its easy to place large bets on the crap table AFTER the dice have been rolled.

Reply #27

Coin Toss — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:47:49 GMT

edessaknight,

If the games were not beatable, why are cointermeasures necessary such as STOPPERS (specially trained card dealers who are available to STOP any lucky streak or methodology; wheel burners on roulette who are practiced at placing the ball where there are no bets, etc ????

Just wondering why these secret anti player practices still exist

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I never saw any stoppers like you mentioned. I did see things like a hispa... [ More ]

Reply #26

MillionsWanted — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:33:07 GMT

He probably had to win several times because of hyperinflation in the future.

Reply #25

Stack47 — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:37:06 GMT

Life imitating art

Reply #24

eddessaknight — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:32:35 GMT

Hi LottoBoner, et al-

You make some commendable points are well versed, well rehearsed, and deeply immersed in the kind of knowledge.

A puzzling question to consider, with all the chips that's stacked up on the gamers side i.e, odds, deep funds, all star professionally trained dealers, own gaming equipment home court advantages: If the games were not beatable, why are cointermeasures necessary such as STOPPERS (specially trained card dealers who are available to STOP any lucky streak or me... [ More ]

Reply #23

PlayToWin47 — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:03:00 GMT

Dang!!! What a plan

Reply #22

Coin Toss — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:40:13 GMT

onlymoney,

That Coast to Coast program was when Art Bell was the host (now it's George Noory). Art Bell had already stated that he thought people who win lottery jackpots and people who do extremely well in the stock market were time travelers.

Bell lives in Pahrump, NV whic h is in Nye County and said his program was from The Kingdom of Nye but at first was broadcasting from KDWN radio, which was on the mezzanine of the then Union Plaza hotel in downtown Vegas. The program was at first ca... [ More ]

Reply #21

HoLeeKau — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:24:04 GMT

Who says I use a ... ummm ... I mean maybe a machine wouldn't be necessary. Maybe it's just something I ... um ... people would do using only their bodies or minds.

I'd go forward and get the Powerball numbers for the draw Christmas night, then come back and buy a few 5 + 0 tickets in several different states (so the pari mutuel doesn't kick in for any single state) with the megaplier and give those to a few friends for Christmas presents. And I'd buy the 5 + 1 ticket for myself in a state wh... [ More ]

Reply #20

RJOh — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:14:07 GMT

Sounds like a Star Trek episode.

When Captain Kirk was using his communicator to talk to his ship in space, the cell phone hadn't been invented and the Ipad was just a dream when Captain Prepard was using it to record his logs to the main computer.

Reply #19

helpmewin — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:36:51 GMT

i don't think it would be cheating if you are paying for your ticket,

everyone's dollar buys a chance

Reply #18

PlayToWin47 — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 18:02:45 GMT

Or ... go forward to find out numbers for a future drawing that hasn't been held yet, come back play for that drawing. That shouldn't mess anything up for the current population, since they are yet to get to that future ... it might change the future, but who would ever know!

The Back to the Future movies are some of my favorites

Reply #17

onlymoney — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:12:47 GMT

There was a story many years ago on a radio show that still airs to this day called Coasttocoast . The themes of discussion on the show mainly reflect paranormal subjects, and a few years ago, one of many topics related to time travel was being discussed, specifically about a supposed time traveler named John Titor.

However, there was another related topic about a man who won the lottery so many times, that men in black eventually caught up with him and he was never to be seen again. The stor... [ More ]

Reply #16

Denmother1 — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:12:43 GMT

If you successfully build a Time Machine, why worry with the lottery. People would pay millions to use it or even billions to buy it from you

Reply #15

RJOh — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:51:52 GMT

In states like Ohio where you can buy tickets for the local games up to 15 minutes before their drawings, you would only need to go back a half hour.

Reply #14

PlayToWin47 — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 02:08:55 GMT

HoLeeKau wrote:

However, if they got the numbers from a vision, or time travel, or math then it's not cheating.

I've been working on my time machine ... HeeHee!!! ...I only need to go back a couple of hours ... LOL

Reply #13

RJOh — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:50:07 GMT

According to https://www.lotterypost.com/news/218991 Richard Lustig won seven top lottery game prizes over seventeen years ranging from $90K to $900K which hardly compare with jackpot the Australian syndicate won by trying to buy all the possible combinations for one drawing. If he spent even a quarter of what they spent then he was lucky to break even.

Jackpots today are such that with the rules limiting how much time one group or person can control a lottery terminal I doubt if that will ev... [ More ]

Reply #12

LottoBoner — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:24:09 GMT

An interesting take sir.

However, all long term advantages will not hurt the Man .

It would only hurt the players. As there would be many more winners and thus jackpots would be considerably smaller or shared.

Any change due to greed by players or by man agement would be detrimental to most games. Management has already gotten by this by putting a cap on sales on some games. Other means is by a cap on payout. As in last nights 8 jackpot winners sharing 80K.

Any advantage gotten is up... [ More ]

Reply #11

maringoman — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:15:05 GMT

I would label them hero and then try to convince them to share their trick with me. Anybody who can beat the house regularly is my hero

Reply #10

eddessaknight — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:15:38 GMT

Must agree with the astute Coin Stack's views on topic

Aside of technacalities, I would like to share a humble take on insider gaming mangement mentality: all games are losing propositions are offered with posted losing odds as public entertainment called gambling. Therefore players who have legally or illegally gained an advantage thereby overcomed the expected game odds (other then pure luck)are not considered to be gambling eventually the game rules would be changed; or players wagering ac... [ More ]

Reply #9

Stack47 — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:40:23 GMT

Richard Lustig won several jackpots but his combined winnings had no effect on lottery profits. The scratch-off payoffs were expected, just not an expectation to pay several to one player and so where the pick-5 winnings. When the Australian syndicate bought the Virginia Lotto jackpot, they contributed to even higher lottery profits. Their jackpot was paid by paid by past ticket sales and their secondary prize wins were paid from their own ticket purchases.

Reply #8

RJOh — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:43:32 GMT

Beating the lottery on a regular basis especially if it's one of the jackpot lottery is the extreme of trying to beat it once. On one end is the highly unlikely and on the other end is the ridiculous and the serious lottery players are some where in between somewhere closer to the unlikely side. Winning such a lottery once and maybe twice in a life time would be their goal.

Reply #7

helpmewin — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:33:35 GMT

Reply #6

Coin Toss — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 04:41:07 GMT

Beating it on a regualr basis would get whoever did it hated by all the other players because the game would no longer be offered.

It's a lottery, not a gift shop.

In a dream world you could develop something that would let you walk into the lottery office and prove to them you could beat them regularly, then name your price for you not to play or tell others. In a dream world. In the real world, the game would be shut down.

Reply #5

helpmewin — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 03:49:00 GMT

Reply #4

onlymoney — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 02:43:46 GMT

If there was a way to predict JP winning numbers with low cost and win almost every draw, the last thing on my mind would be whether others can get a hold of this information. Think about it, If you could accomplish such a feat, that alone would shake up your whole paradigm.

Reply #3

billionaire2bee — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 23:05:22 GMT

Who cares LOL I won...then Id tell everybody how I did it after I banked the money and hopefully they would go out and win too...

Reply #2

HoLeeKau — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:40:58 GMT

It's only cheating if they did something illegal to get and/or use the information. If they hacked into a computer to steal the code, or plant code of their own to make certain numbers come up. Or paid a lottery employee to do something illegal. Or printed tickets after the draw and somehow found a way to make the lottery computers say they were winners. That's cheating.

However, if they got the numbers from a vision, or time travel, or math then it's not cheating.

Reply #1

noise-gate — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:42:02 GMT

By beating it l mean beating the wheel on a regular basis.In a situation where people say Whoa, was Charlie or Tammy not the last winner as well

if "someone" found a way to beat the lottery wheel-would you label that cheating?

noise-gate — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:29:32 GMT

If you did label it such: would it be because you not in on the action or just feel everyone should have access to this information as well