Prediction By Filtration On The Pick 4 Game, An Introduction.

Reply #43

MonEl — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:07:30 GMT

Look like I had talked about the pick 4 before:

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/201726

Reply #42

MonEl — Tue, 13 Aug 2013 01:39:33 GMT

reddog

I might be the only one to say this about myself, but I do believe that I am one of Earth's greatest authorities on lottery prediction.

Believe it or not.

And I didn't say The greatest because there is no way that I can know that, so I said One of the greatest .

No, I am not just making that up.

I do know more about the pick 3 and the pick 4 games than about jackpot kind of games, but I know more than enough about jackpot kind of games, no I will not bet against other playe... [ More ]

Reply #41

MonEl — Tue, 13 Aug 2013 01:25:50 GMT

It is true that probably few people understand as much about lottery random and it's prediction as I, but it is also true that I don't remember ever having made any pick 4 predictions anywhere.

That doesn't mean that I can't make accurate pick 4 predictions, if I want to there is a very good chance that I can make fairly good enough pick 4 predictions, after all I know lottery random and its prediction well enough, what I don't know is how many pick 4 numbers I would have to predict in order... [ More ]

Reply #40

reddog — Tue, 13 Aug 2013 01:20:19 GMT

Hmmm, We are talking to a Pick 4 legend ? You know Fernando personally

Reply #39

MonEl — Tue, 13 Aug 2013 01:09:35 GMT

retxx

People are welcomed to put whatever they see here on this thread on Excel or on a program, I don't mind at all.

But I didn't exactly post a prediction system, I kind of did, but at the same time not exactly.

What I posted was information about the pick 4 (cash 4) game and about some filters that people can use if they want to, if they want to make their own pick 4 system based on stats and on those filters that I posted about.

I didn't exactly post a step by step pi... [ More ]

Reply #38

cash4ninja — Tue, 13 Aug 2013 01:07:56 GMT

Retxx, youre talking to a Pick 4 legend. I doubt if he needs his filtration strategy backtested... I suggest you sit back ..and learn all that you can from Mon El.... let him post at his own pace. What hes teaching is something that Lottery Officials dont want taught.

Reply #37

retxx — Tue, 13 Aug 2013 00:50:39 GMT

Hi mone; what if you were to throw this out say to ranman and carlig to excel a chart to try and backtest your filtration system to see if they might help. What do you think? They contribute a lot here for all who like help to improve systems.Thanks

Reply #36

MonEl — Tue, 13 Aug 2013 00:48:51 GMT

reddog

Since you probably have more of a formal education than I, maybe I should be the one to call you Professor .

I don't remember, but I think that I have never made any pick (cash) 4 predictions anywhere at all, but if I ever do, I probably will not post them on the Predictions Board .

The reason for that is that the last time that I checked there was a restriction on how many numbers could be posted there for each prediction, but also as I said, I don't remember my having ever made... [ More ]

Reply #35

reddog — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 23:56:53 GMT

So apparently you are in the wrong forum. Patiently waiting to see your predictions for your state, Professor, on the prediction forum.

Reply #34

MonEl — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 00:19:43 GMT

By the way.

The 3 basic prediction ways would be:

Prediction by Digits. X

Prediction by Pairs. XX

And Prediction by 3 Digits Numbers. XXX

And of course a mix of 2 or 3 of them.

Reply #33

MonEl — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 00:13:40 GMT

For this post I will do away with the Most , it should be understood that something like H means Mostly High

Also there should be no All High nor All Low , there would only be H = Mostly High , L = Mostly Low, Etc.

Will only do the Low-High and the Even-Odd, but the In-Out and the Bala-Nced can also be done in the very same way.

Beware of any possible mistakes.

08/10/2013 5 9 6 1 HO

08/09/2013 5 3 3 2 LO

08/08/2013 9 3 3 3 LO

08/07/2013 0 2 8 5

I can't continue w... [ More ]

Reply #32

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:26:59 GMT

Bob

Very true, thanks a lot!

I guess I will also show that later sometime before I finish with this thread.

So more later.

Reply #31

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:23:27 GMT

cash4ninja

Thanks very much!

Fernando.

Reply #30

CARBOB — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:52:01 GMT

These filters can also be used for play 4.

MH=Mostly High

ML=Mostly Low

All= All High or All Low

ME= Mostly Even

MO= Mostly Odd

All= All Even Or All Odd

MI= Mostly In

MO= Mostly Out

All = All Mostly In or Mostly Out

The BalaNced works the same way. All of these can be adapted for Play 4.

Original Post by CARBOB

These can be used for Play 4.

08/10/13 7 0 7 707 3 1 3 313 MH MO MI MS ALLBala

08/09/13 3 0 9 309 4 1 5 415 ML MO Mo ALLmr... [ More ]

Reply #29

cash4ninja — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:41:29 GMT

Thanks for the conti uing education....... youre the best

Reply #28

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 20:36:22 GMT

I almost forgot, as there are 10,000 straight pick 4 numbers a person might also be able to filter out some pick 4 numbers, maybe, only the actual stats can tell for sure.

Reply #27

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 20:30:08 GMT

08/10/2013 5 9 6 1 21 Sum 3 Root

08/09/2013 5 3 3 2 13 4 Root

08/08/2013 9 3 3 3 18 9 Root

08/07/2013 0 2 8 5 15 6 Root

08/06/2013 7 7 2 7 23 5 Root

08/05/2013 3 2 7 3 15 6 Root

08/03/2013 9 2 6 5 22 4 Root

08/02/2013 1 6 3 4 14 5 Root

08/01/2013 9 5 9 2 25 7 Root

07/31/2013 4 3 8 7 22 4 Root

Every time that you filter out a Sum-Root you filter out kind of close to about 1/10 of the total pick 4 numbers, maybe, at least on the pick 3 it is kind of like that.

Reply #26

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 20:20:47 GMT

08/10/2013 5 9 6 1 21 Sum 1 LDR (LDS).

08/09/2013 5 3 3 2 13 3 LDR

08/08/2013 9 3 3 3 18 8 LDR

08/07/2013 0 2 8 5 15 5 LDR

08/06/2013 7 7 2 7 23 3 LDR

08/05/2013 3 2 7 3 15 5 LDR

08/03/2013 9 2 6 5 22 2 LDR

08/02/2013 1 6 3 4 14 4 LDR

08/01/2013 9 5 9 2 25 5 LDR

07/31/2013 4 3 8 7 22 2 LDR

Same as on the pick 3, every-time that you filter out a LDR you filter out 1/10 of the total pick 4 numbers or at least that is how it is on the pick 3 game.

Reply #25

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 19:54:01 GMT

The Width filter has more patterns on the pick 4 than it does on the pick 3, maybe 6 possible Widths instead of 3 as in the pick 3.

On the pick 3 we mostly use the Lowest To Highest Width.

We can do that also on the pick 4 or do whatever we want to, for example we can have 3 Widths:

1 to 2, 2 to 3, 3 to 4:

1 2 3 4, boxed Widths.

08/10/2013 5 9 6 1 4 3 5 Widths

08/09/2013 5 3 3 2 2 0 1 Widths

08/08/2013 9 3 3 3 6 0 0 Widths

08/07/2013 0 2 8 5

08/06/2013 7 7 2 7

08/05... [ More ]

Reply #24

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 19:26:57 GMT

If the pick 3 game has 3 pairs on each number then maybe the pick 4 has 6 pairs on it.

Having 6 pairs might allow for more possible filtration.

There is Straight and also Boxed pairs and filtration.

1 2 3 4

Pairs:

12, 23, 13, 14, 24, 34, 6 Straight Pairs and maybe 6 more boxed pairs: 21, 32, 31, 41, 42, 43.

That is a total of 12 pairs.

As we know the pairs are from 00 up to 99, a total of 100 Straight Pairs and I think that maybe 55 Boxed Pairs, maybe 45 boxed pairs not coun... [ More ]

Reply #23

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 19:12:46 GMT

As I said, people are welcomed to post here as much as they want to and say whatever they want to, but I will also post as much as I want to and say whatever I want to.

No matter what I say.

If you want to, keep on posting.

Reply #22

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 19:09:15 GMT

Laverne

What I am posting is a system, a system of filtration, but not in the way that some people want systems.

It is a system of filtration that allows people to make and use their own particular custom filtration system(s).

I don't know how else to state that, but this is the right forum in which to post it and not any of the other forums.

People want a free easy way to win, they want somebody to hand they out a pot of gold a gold gift.

I am doing just that, but some people jus... [ More ]

Reply #21

LAVERNE MALONEY — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 18:19:22 GMT

So MonEl, why did you post in the Systems forum? The Systems forum is the place where people want systems. Perhaps you should have posted in a blog, or the Pick 4 forum.

Reply #20

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 16:55:32 GMT

dr san

The Doubles Twins or whatever you or anybody else might want to call them are:

12 Ways numbers.

That is the Permutation Filter

If you know which of the 12 permutations will come out next you can reduce the pick 4 numbers a lot.

Other-wise filter out one or more Unlikely to come out next permutation(s) and that will give you some filtration-reduction.

As with any filter pattern, either filter out or trap or do both.

All of the Identity filters have Permutations so the... [ More ]

Reply #19

dr san — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 16:16:54 GMT

Hello, monel, we have it pretty good the twins (00,11 .. 99) to use them as the couple desmandrndo twins in positions exemploo = double = 11 = 11xx, 1x1x, 1xx1, XX11, x1x 1 XX11

TEMSO 6 positions with 6 groups each times 10 are 60 groups taking all casai twins if you get a list of pick4 the 50th sweepstakes 100 = 70% has a couple of twins

So, but do not know which play the couple has 60 formations, now we just need the pair positional

Can see that for delay placed vertically of each pos... [ More ]

Reply #18

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:55:15 GMT

As you all might know:

10 X 10 X 10 X 10 = 10 000.

So if you filter out 1 boxed digit = 1 digit (The same digit) for each of the 4 straight positions:

9 X 9 X 9 X 9 = 6,561

That is a lot of straight filtration:

10,000 - 6,561 = 3,439 pick 4 numbers filtered out.

Digits are very powerful filters.

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For the boxed play.

715 Boxed total pick 4 numbers, but if you filter out one boxed digit you will only have:

495 Boxed pick 4 numb... [ More ]

Reply #17

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:36:56 GMT

dr san

You know, as there are Key Digits (Key Numbers) it is also possible that there can be Key Pairs .

Fernando.

Reply #16

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:33:26 GMT

Bob

Hello!

Glad to see you posting here.

Sorry, but I don't understand your post.

What is it all about?

Thanks.

Fernando.

Reply #15

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:28:38 GMT

dr san

Great post, will when I have a little more time check that out.

Thanks very much.

Fernando.

Reply #14

CARBOB — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:39:47 GMT

These can be used for Play 4.

08/10/13 7 0 7 707 3 1 3 313 MH MO MI MS ALLBala

08/09/13 3 0 9 309 4 1 5 415 ML MO Mo ALLmr ALLBala

08/08/13 7 7 4 774 3 3 5 335 MH MO ALLin ALLms MBala

08/07/13 5 7 8 578 1 3 4 134 ALLhi MO MI MS MNced

08/06/13 1 0 4 104 2 1 5 215 ALLlo ME Mo MS MNced

08/05/13 7 1 1 711 3 2 2 322 ML ALLod Mo ALLms MNced

08/04/13 1 3 1 131 2 4 2 242 ALLlo ALLod Mo MS MNced

08/03/13 4 6 8 468 5 2 4 524 MH ALLev MI MR MNced

08/02/13 3 6 3 3... [ More ]

Reply #13

dr san — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:23:22 GMT

Have to use the reverse also the example 13.31 = 79.97

Reply #12

dr san — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:15:27 GMT

Hello, monel very good job of basic filters, you can see a pattern repeats in a drawing to another, below is a list of 12 pairs that come in 80% of the time in pick4 when this is desmenbrada in 6 pairs, then the list down at least 80% in a couple of draws =

45

46

47

56

57

67

89

80

90

12

13

23

ex=1209, 1957

Reply #11

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 13:28:12 GMT

The Bala-Nced filter:

B = Bala = 1 2 4 5 8

N = Nced = 0 3 6 7 9

08/10/2013 5 9 6 1 BNNB

08/09/2013 5 3 3 2 BNNB

08/08/2013 9 3 3 3 NNNN

08/07/2013 0 2 8 5 NBBB

08/06/2013 7 7 2 7 NNBN

08/05/2013 3 2 7 3 NBNN

08/03/2013 9 2 6 5 NBNB

08/02/2013 1 6 3 4 BNNB

08/01/2013 9 5 9 2 NBNN

07/31/2013 4 3 8 7 BNBN

07/30/2013 6 0 8 0 NNBN

07/29/2013 0 0 0 7 NNNN

More later as I can.

Reply #10

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 09:16:16 GMT

I remind you, it matters not which names you give to the filters and to their patterns.

All that matters are their stats.

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Now the Even-Odd

As you will see these four, 2 positions by position, 16 patterns to each filter, are and work in about the same way.

E = Even = 0 2 4 6 8

O = Odd = 1 3 5 7 9

08/10/2013 5 9 6 1 OOEO

08/09/2013 5 3 3 2 OOOE

08/08/2013 9 3 3 3 OOOO

08/07/2013 0 2 8 5 EEEO

08/06/2013 7 7 2 7 OOEO

08... [ More ]

Reply #9

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 08:29:07 GMT

08/10/2013 5 9 6 1 21 Single

08/09/2013 5 3 3 2 13 Double

08/08/2013 9 3 3 3 18 Triple

08/07/2013 0 2 8 5 15 Single

08/06/2013 7 7 2 7 23 Triple

08/05/2013 3 2 7 3 15 Double

08/03/2013 9 2 6 5 22 Single

08/02/2013 1 6 3 4 14 Single

08/01/2013 9 5 9 2 25 Double

07/31/2013 4 3 8 7 22 Single

07/30/2013 6 0 8 0 14 Double

07/29/2013 0 0 0 7 07 Triple = T

07/27/2013 4 1 7 2 14 Single

07/26/2013 0 7 5 6 18 Single

07/25/2013 7 1 2 5 15 Single

07/24/2013 7 5 9... [ More ]

Reply #8

grwurston — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 05:35:33 GMT

You've probably forgotten more than a lot of us know. Please continue...

Reply #7

Gr8ful1 — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 04:34:29 GMT

Thank you -- looking forward to each lesson.

Reply #6

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 02:05:32 GMT

Well, I try to behave, but that got me a little hot, so now it is time for a break while I try to cool down some.

More later as I can.

Don't let what I say discourage you from posting and speaking your mind, you can post as much as you want to and say whatever you want to.

But if I answer your posts try not to get upset, if you get upset, take some time and try to cool down, that is what I myself will do now for a while.

Reply #5

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:53:38 GMT

Those who want systems, predictions and or a Quick Fix are reading the wrong thread.

Reply #4

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:50:42 GMT

reddog

To the first:

Sorry, but no.

To the second:

True it has been taught over and over and over and yet people are still not learning.

Those who are not, maybe it is time for them to quit taking the same class over and over.

This class is for those who haven't taken it yet.

Good Luck

Reply #3

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:45:42 GMT

These are a few past pick 4 winning numbers from the Tx Pick 4 Mid game:

08/10/2013 5 9 6 1

08/09/2013 5 3 3 2

08/08/2013 9 3 3 3

08/07/2013 0 2 8 5

08/06/2013 7 7 2 7

08/05/2013 3 2 7 3

08/03/2013 9 2 6 5

08/02/2013 1 6 3 4

08/01/2013 9 5 9 2

07/31/2013 4 3 8 7

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First:

Pick 4 Sums:

Lowest possible 0000 = 00 Sum.

Highest possible 9999 = 36 Sum.

So, as seen, there are 37 pick 4 Sums.

An example:

08/10/2013

Reply #2

reddog — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:43:49 GMT

So MonEl, is there a pick 4 system you have that you care to post ? I feel like I am in school right now taking a class that has been taught over and over and over and over again.

Reply #1

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:22:30 GMT

http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/lottery/Games/Daily_4/How_to_Play_Daily_4.html

There you will find information about the pick 4 game.

As seen there the pick 4 Singles are 24 ways numbers. 1234

The Doubles are 12 ways numbbers. 1123

The Doubles-Doubles are 6 ways numbers. 1122

The Triples are 4 ways numbers. 1112

The Quads are 1 way numbers. 1111

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For examples follow the above link to the Tx state lottery web site.

Prediction By Filtration On The Pick 4 Game, An Introduction.

MonEl — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:02:42 GMT

The pick 4 game is made out of 4 numbers and positions from 0 to 9.

10 X 10 X 10 X 10 = 10, 000 straight combinations.

They go from:

0000 up to 9999

That produces these kinds of pick 4 numbers:

Singles: 1234

Doubles: 1123

Doubles-doubles: 1122

Triples: 1112

Quads: 1111

The names of patterns don't matter much, you can name patterns anything that you want.

Mostly what matters is the statistics that the patterns make.

As said, those are kinds of pick 4 numbers, b... [ More ]